Why to not be a archer

[thehipyman]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

[Celtic_Princess]

I took the time to address each of these issues, but due to the bug with the forums it won't let me post it so I'll say this instead:

You can't really get a grasp on a class by quitting it after three levels. Most of the things you listed in your post can be fixed or have a simple answer. The only serious issue with archers is their lack of skills, which outspark will address soon

[zerozone01]

Like the Guy above me i cant post because of some bug... but.... I agree only our skills sucks... an anything else.....3 words DEAL WITH IT

[Celtic_Princess]

Like the Guy above me i cant post because of some bug... but.... I agree only our skills sucks... an anything else.....3 words DEAL WITH IT

dude i'm a girl.

[mysty2]

. Spend to much money on hp potions

arser to that make them

[Celtic_Princess]

. Spend to much money on hp potions

arser to that make them

what is arser?

And you can avoid spending a lot of money on hp potions by partying with a cleric or choosing the pot production skill.

[zerozone01]

dude i'm a girl.

Guy was ment for a general term.... where as i was just refering to the post above me... stop being so damn technical

[Celtic_Princess]

hahah...no. ;)

but i will agree that archers aren't as bad as the OP is making them sound

[raimez]

Ok well firstly because I'm sick of seeing these threads and secondly because you dont deserve a proper reply from ANY archer..


GET A GRIP!

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Ok well firstly because I'm sick of seeing these threads and secondly because you dont deserve a proper reply from ANY archer..


GET A GRIP!

Quoted for truth.

[spiritofchaos]

They have one of the best looking armor and their enhancement levels are the best.. The skills kinda disappoint me though. Ur saying that fighters are the best since they have 3 types of weapons? They are VERY fun to use too. Mages suck post 49. Very boring lol...

[Corrin]

Archers rule, No offense to all those mages (love you to death) but if I was duoing (i'm a cleric) I'd get an archer any day even over a fighter. They kill way faster then an archer higher up. SQUISHY ARCHERS FTW!

[to450]

Hey im a lvl31 how i lvled up so fast is training with a fighter.



Im new to the forums so hi!

-DarkFlight

[Gravvi]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.


1. Archer don't train slow lol. At least I don't
2. I hit harder than alot of mages. And i know i hit harder than clerics.
3. I have great def with no CS, no +9's.
4. I am the reason most people get the kills. (plus that goes on luck)
5. I don't use potions
6. Low lvls are the best time to be archers
7. Noone hits much higher than last weapon.
8. Bull crap. Meet me in pvp and say that.
9. Thats just you
10. Same with clerics and mages
11. Wow Everyone loves the archer effects.
12. We look the best to most poeple
13. Tell that to my 2.5k crits
14. Haven't died in like 15 lvls. (except when i was trained in BR yesterday)
15. I can
16. Again that just you
17. Then why can i kill mages so easily.
18. I have never been called noob IG
19. Never had that happen to me
20. Yes because your reasons aren't true and apply to all archers

[Farashimisanoob]

Take it from me.
Archers suck, make a mage.

[EriAeris]

Archer's are like Mages that Don't Need Spirit Points to deal Heavy Damage...

Level 16 Archer Wynn_Miyabi <- Tanked at King Slime... "almost failed XP"

reason?:

Couldn't Hold Aggro... :(

[imdupree]

1. Archer don't train slow lol. At least I don't
2. I hit harder than alot of mages. And i know i hit harder than clerics.
3. I have great def with no CS, no +9's.
4. I am the reason most people get the kills. (plus that goes on luck)
5. I don't use potions
6. Low lvls are the best time to be archers
7. Noone hits much higher than last weapon.
8. Bull crap. Meet me in pvp and say that.
9. Thats just you
10. Same with clerics and mages
11. Wow Everyone loves the archer effects.
12. We look the best to most poeple
13. Tell that to my 2.5k crits
14. Haven't died in like 15 lvls. (except when i was trained in BR yesterday)
15. I can
16. Again that just you
17. Then why can i kill mages so easily.
18. I have never been called noob IG
19. Never had that happen to me
20. Yes because your reasons aren't true and apply to all archers

Lol, even if you can kill mages easily (cause they have terrible end :( but you CAN say archers are the weakest) but with near future updates fiesta is hoping to balance out all classes so its fair for everybody.

[zeroshad0w]

Dude Archer pwnx bro .." got nothing to say but" wanan fight me i show u what an archer can do

[imdupree]

They have one of the best looking armor and their enhancement levels are the best.. The skills kinda disappoint me though. Ur saying that fighters are the best since they have 3 types of weapons? They are VERY fun to use too. Mages suck post 49. Very boring lol...

How the HELL do you get off saying mages suck post 49? Mages are beasts. And how is being a mage more boring? Mages get partied more often, and have more skills. I dont have anything against archer class but the archer players **** me off saying that they are better than mages. Soon they are gonna be balanced so its gonna be fair game for everyone. I hope i see you in pvp.

[Empathys]

Looked in a mirror lately, mage man? Lemme help you with that:


How the HELL do you get off saying archers suck post <insertlevel>? Archers are beasts. And how is being an Archer more boring? Mages only get partied more often because there are 3 mages per 1 Archer. And so what if you have more skills, ours still kick ***. I dont have anything against mage class but the mage players **** me off saying that they are better than archers. Soon we are gonna be balanced so its gonna be fair game for everyone. I hope i see you in pvp.

So easy to play from the other side of the, fence isn't it? Before you make a juvenile rant that has no basis in reality please make sure to think the situation through.

Mages = DPS.
Archers = DPS.

Both classes are good at what they do.

Get over it.

To the OP: You fail because you are misinformed of the situation. Play to level 50 then tell me all of that with a straight face.

[ToshCrimson]

This thread.... I can't stop laughing..... ........ lols still cant. Almost every single thing on that list is wrong. As for Mage vs Archer idk about much but if you are talking in pvp the archer will win 7/10 times. I personally have never lost to a mage my lvl in a one on one battle and my build is screwed up. Mages do kinda suck before 49 I can't get past lvl 27 on my mage cuz im like "wow is this what mage is like?.... WHERE ARE MY FCKING POISONS!!!!".

[adryden1313]

1) thats what grinding parties are for, find someone your level and do quests together, that is the quickest and easiest way to level

2) This right here will prove you wrong :
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot151.jpg

3) above picture will also prove you wrong

4) i personally have NEVER had a problem with that, best party for a KQ..Fighter, Cleric, and 3 DD's i.e. ARCHERS or MAGES

5) that is what a good cleric is for, you should never NEED to use HP pots or stones

6) lowest levels are the EASIEST levels to go through, im not entirely sure what you are whining about

7) refer to my answer on #2

8) if you feel that playing an archer is a waste of time, it isnt any better playing a different class, so dont bag on archers

9) what is?

10) that holds true for every class with the exception of fighters...DUH

[adryden1313]

11) well i dont know what you are talking about...my +9 looks AWESOME :
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot153.jpg

12) again...im not sure what your talking about...my armor is HAWT!
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot152.jpg

13) your absolutely right...what the hell were they thinking giving us skills that could do this :
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot842.jpg
and
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot843.jpg

14) refer to answer #5 you repeat yourself...and if you think you die alot..uhm..could you possibly solo this guy?
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot827.jpg

[adryden1313]

15) lmao...you can shoot from far away where as fighters have to go in there and actually GET the mob...i actually prefer that

16) i dont understand what you are saying

17) weak? i beg to differ...this shot alone will kill you
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot154.jpg

18 and 19 i have never been called a noob and people don't :confused: about me or "them"

20) you dont have to write another one down, cuz you just got pwn by Arch...have a lovely day =0)


PS...darn that security token for making me multipost

[ToshCrimson]

15) lmao...you can shoot from far away where as fighters have to go in there and actually GET the mob...i actually prefer that

16) i dont understand what you are saying

17) weak? i beg to differ...this shot alone will kill you
http://i196.photobucket.com/albums/aa85/adryden87144/screenshot154.jpg

18 and 19 i have never been called a noob and people don't :confused: about me or "them"

20) you dont have to write another one down, cuz you just got pwn by Arch...have a lovely day =0)


PS...darn that security token for making me multipost

nice screen shot I didn't know multi shots arrows looked so cool.:cool:

[paklongtua]

first of all, u should use the forum to give benefits to other players and not to condemn on things that u ve mentioned.

u have just got to lv 3 playing as an archer, which is too unfair to judge on archers. every class has its speciality. archers r not weak, a DD archer deal as much damage as a fighter. and they r the weakest...u need to define what is "weakest" for u...if what u mean is their defense, then mages have way lower defence than archers.

there r fewer and fewer archers now...please dont make anymore thread like this to discourage people playing archers.

[Gravvi]

Lol, even if you can kill mages easily (cause they have terrible end :( but you CAN say archers are the weakest) but with near future updates fiesta is hoping to balance out all classes so its fair for everybody.
LOL I say the clerics are the weakest class. THey only kill me if they are scrolled and CS upped.

@Archy LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. I should have done that. I should SS my 2.5k crits on fire nix.

[adryden1313]

ya know Gravvi...i am really sick and tired of all these "archers are weak" threads. If people would actually take the time to level them up past 20 they would realize they arent as weak as they think they are.....just irks me

[nottheface]

even tho i still get killed by clerics i can kill most classes at my lvl :) GO ARCHERS!

[Gravvi]

only reason clerics beat me is because they have more stones than me. And fighters only win if their Dev eventually hits me. Or they all use Aim scrolls.

@arch. Yea i know what you mean. Its kinda funny. I can't stand playing mage. I have tried. I deleted him 7 times. Each time at lvl 30 lol. Once at lvl 41. I can't stand them. I stopped playing my cleric because its boring. I don't play my fighter because its the same old same old. At least as a cleric each party and each mob is different.

[sbr999]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.


1. t3 speed...solo aoe map?-.-'
2. basic atk 1.3-1.4k ...friend has 1.5-1.6k ...is it that low -,-.....add skill dmg here then too = =
3. scroll up then lol....mages have worse def though
4. Does soloing KQ count as getting kill lol? other archer is lvl 25 can kill 1rst Marlone (if lucky Mara too) before people catching up = =...no speed scroll
5. Depends on your playing style = =
6. The siggy thing again. lol
7. Add the DMG from enhancement here too -.-'
8. Sorry for that 3 lvls you wasted on archer.
9. ummm...ok
10. Only fighters have more than 3 types of wep lol.
11. o.O? I don't understand this one.
12. Personal problem of yours lol.
13. lack some skills, but they are not bad.
14. the siggy again....did you die by.....a slime??? =/
15. Hit and run/kiting perhaps? You can actually train higher lvl areas lol
16. ......
17. I didn't know that hehe.
18. That's rather personal than class related = ="
19. ummm...ok o.O?
20. lolx

EDIT:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81039
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showpost.ph

[zerozone01]

Archers are Great put skills suck a lil but other wise One of the funiest classes to play... oh and our stone s suck :)

[ashleyhex]

I just kind of recently made and archer and a mage.
Im having a lot of fun with my archer and im ABOUT to hit level 30 by maybe tomorrow. Only been playing for 4-5 days with my archer.
Hard to level up? Doubt it. All you need is scrolls which are EASY to make.

The outfits are cute. Well, only seen the girl ones.
Your post is spam and a waste of time. Annoying.

[Kealm]

I took the time to address each of these issues, but due to the bug with the forums it won't let me post it so I'll say this instead:

You can't really get a grasp on a class by quitting it after three levels. Most of the things you listed in your post can be fixed or have a simple answer. The only serious issue with archers is their lack of skills, which outspark will address soon


how do you get such assumptions at lvl 14? :P So much bias when you know absolutely nothing about archers.

[KateeHellen]

Such threads type "Archers are <insert suitable but negative word here ;)> " were ones of the reasons why i start Archer myself and so far i do not complain :) <she is 21 at this moment by the way>.
I wont answer at all those points because Arch do this perfect :), however point about dieing alot... why i sense here someone who try AOE at 15?
If you drag more mobs as you can handle then no wonder that you will die.
True that archers +1X armor are terrible but after +30 armors are nicer and nicer :) so stop talking nonsense and trashing Archers :D...

[EriAeris]

Archers can kill a bunch of mobs without almost getting hurt XP

just poison and bleed... then RUN!

Archer soloed King Slime before XP

[Ienzo]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.

[FONT="Comic Sans MS"]I'm not going to waste time explaining why these reasons are wrong, people have already done that multiple times. Instead, I would like to refer you to a post on this Forum called "Here's some proof!" started by me. It shows all you people, archers are NOT the weakest class, the can be exceedingly awesome when played correctly, and FOR MORE THAN 3 LEVELS.

Oh, and if you're too lazy to actually%2

[nique554]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

nuts to all this crap you posted archers FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nique554]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

nuts to all that junk you posted archers FTW!!!!!!!

[kalone]

hahah...no. ;)

but i will agree that archers aren't as bad as the OP is making them sound

He's being serious, "guys" or "guy" is a general term for a group or individual.

Ok, lets start.

1. We are really bad at pvp.
2. We fail after 60.
3. 40-50 are the hardest levels for an archer.
4. We look weak.

That's all I can think of.

[adryden1313]

Kalone are you refering to archers? because i for one do not suck at PVP, i do not fail after 60 atm i am lvl 79 have been for months, lvl 40-50 hmm i hit 40-60 in about 3 weeks i dont understand why people fail the concept of DUO OR PARTY. looks can be deceiving. And finally..if you were on my server...i would prove all of those points =0)

[Kealm]

He's being serious, "guys" or "guy" is a general term for a group or individual.

Ok, lets start.

1. We are really bad at pvp.
2. We fail after 60.
3. 40-50 are the hardest levels for an archer.
4. We look weak.

That's all I can think of.


lol another fail post. I definately do not suck at pvp, and i definately do not fail at all. point 3 is the only correct thing you said... but really that isn't all that hard. And you only look as weak as you think you are.

Considering i get pt invites w/e i want them simply because of my skill as a puller and clerics who love kiting with me... i see no point to what you guys are saying.

Archers are NOT fail, Archers CAN compete with everyone else. This entire post is pretty much rubbish and a vent for bias.

[Celtic_Princess]

how do you get such assumptions at lvl 14? :P So much bias when you know absolutely nothing about archers.

Err...I suggest you look at my signature again, I don't even post my Teva characters until they pass 20.

And for that matter, I have characters on every server. Not just Teva, but Teva is my home so those are the only ones I post.

[Farashimisanoob]

Believe me, Archers cannot extort the amount of win a mage can.
Mages > Archers anyday.

[kalone]

lol another fail post. I definately do not suck at pvp, and i definately do not fail at all. point 3 is the only correct thing you said... but really that isn't all that hard. And you only look as weak as you think you are.

Considering i get pt invites w/e i want them simply because of my skill as a puller and clerics who love kiting with me... i see no point to what you guys are saying.

Archers are NOT fail, Archers CAN compete with everyone else. This entire post is pretty much rubbish and a vent for bias.

No, archers fail.

And my main is an archer.

[adryden1313]

okay then riddle me this Kalone...if archers "fail" as much as you THINK they do...then why the hell is an archer your main?

[thechaz]

sorry but my fav class is an archer and its people like u that try to demoralize the current archers and then they aren't able to make good archer builds, btw u can make archers seriously over power (pm me for the build) so dont flame them especailly some of the rumored attacks we et its going to rock

[Celtic_Princess]

Personally I believe that its not the class its how you play your character. Myself? I suck at archer, I can play it and decently but not as well as some of the 70+ archer friends (and husband) I know. I stick to the support class, I do my job and I do it well.

Some archers just aren't meant to be archers. Thats why they never make it past lvl 3....or 40....or the 60 job change.

[kalone]

okay then riddle me this Kalone...if archers "fail" as much as you THINK they do...then why the hell is an archer your main?

I quit.

It's impossible to compete with mages. It's ridiculous how they do so much more damage than we do.

[omenra]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

Hmmm.....it sounds like you're describing mages too :P
And to be honest, archers are NOT that bad. :)

[Celtic_Princess]

I quit.

It's impossible to compete with mages. It's ridiculous how they do so much more damage than we do.

Now he just wanders the forums starting riots :p

[Gravvi]

Believe me, Archers cannot extort the amount of win a mage can.
Mages > Archers anyday.

Only mages that can beat me are the ones that are using extenders all T4 scrolls. ALl +9 gears. And have to be full int. And using a charm. ALl i have to use is T4 scrolls and they can't kill me unless they take away teh vit. which is rare for them to pull that off without them dieing.

[zerozone01]

Soloed GK

http://a694.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_adc37b7c3db999a9526dce5eaa8487dd.jpg

solo gk aggin.. nd archer are weak?

http://a78.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/l_925564126f10d6a69941b468db4627c5.jpg


We are UnderPowered But by no means Weak :)

[Kealm]

Err...I suggest you look at my signature again, I don't even post my Teva characters until they pass 20.

And for that matter, I have characters on every server. Not just Teva, but Teva is my home so those are the only ones I post.

You definately didn't notice i wasn't quoting you :P. I was most definately not talking about you or your post. So easy goes it ^^.

As far as the post goes it's a flame fest and if a cl actually reads it we'll see a warning pop up and eventually closed post if this continues.

Mages are not greater then archers anyday... solo mage vs solo archer... if the archer is worth anything at all he's far better then the mage solo. Parties are different if you have good support, though when a pure int mage dies in two hits there isn't much to support. And in addition I make up for any damage based short comings i might have by useing my range and mo

[fireyair]

*sobs* i feel so sorry for hipy, they called him/her/it a noob at level three... GROW UP!




Peace:cool:

[kalone]

Soloed GK

http://a694.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/27/l_adc37b7c3db999a9526dce5eaa8487dd.jpg

solo gk aggin.. nd archer are weak?

http://a78.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/l_925564126f10d6a69941b468db4627c5.jpg


We are UnderPowered But by no means Weak :)

Take off all the premium sht.

[zerozone01]

Take off all the premium sht.

i would but wht does tht have to do with my Defense? oh wow ill use about 3 or 4 stone et=xtra because i didnt crit him >>>

[Gravvi]

LOL i have solo'd GK alot and i dont' use CS.

[sbr999]

Take off all the premium sht.

Premium items have nothing to do with GK solo lol

all you need is some Mdef and HP to survive 2hits in row LOL xD

[kalone]

-narrows eyes-

I hate you archers.

[x3runz]

Horray for contro!

[Akukei]

Hnn, archer fail? No. They do not.

1. They train slow
Not as slow as clerics. And, we make more money that way ;D

2. Hit low
Clerics and tank fighters hit less, and we are as good as a mage, overall damage wise.

3. Bad def
Put some points into END, to soften the blows then, you wuss.

4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
No, I always get kills from KQ's. You haven't even been in one with your archer, anyway~

5. Spend to much money on hp potions
Not true. Re-stoning: 8s Drops I got from using all the stones: ~12s

6. Low levels teriable
Low level archers are the best class, actually.

7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
They do ._.

8. Watse of time
Tell that to capped archers ):

9. Least fun to use by me
*MOST fun to use by ME

10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
Ah, so clerics and mages also fail in this regard?

11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
It's the same, except level 5-6+, and they own.

12. Armour looks terible
Level 10-20 armour, yes. Level 30+? no.

13. Almost all skills are bad
Ours skills may be limited, but they own.

14. You will die alot
Mages die alot. Also, I think i've died about... 20 times, not counting KQ's.

15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
Scrolls are fun to use.

16. It mad me ....
It mad you? Aw.

17. Weakest of all classes.
Physically? No, mages are.

18. People call you a noob alot
No one has called me a noob before. Sorry, people only call noobs noobs!

19. Alot of people ask about them
Didn't understand, sorry. =/

20. Whell do i have to write another one down.
Uh-huh.

So, in conclusion, you fail. D:

And kalone, I saw you on your archer today. If you quit, I want your bow. :x

[kalone]

So, in conclusion, you fail. D:

And kalone, I saw you on your archer today. If you quit, I want your bow. :x

LOL nice post.

Yes you can have my bow.

[yaymes23]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)



ummm not to be mean or anything but almost all of ur "rant" about archers isn't really true bcause they are as important as any class on the game....and i dont think you have a right to judge archers after trying it for only 3lvls....archers are important especially in kqs and boss hunting...and dey're good at duoing...it just differ them from their build not their class...so please dont talk to archers like dat...thanks :]

[DF001]

1. They train slow - Not really at 5x I got 20% on 1 hour. soloing.
2. Hit low - duh that is why we have DOTs?
3. Bad def - get end gears,
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly - actually we do.
5. Spend to much money on hp potions - I agree on this one.
6. Low levels teriable - what?
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon - I don't get your point.
8. Watse of time - not a waste of time with my archer I got 2 blues on 3 days o:
9. Least fun to use by me - that is the most amuesing class imo =/
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons - most of the classes have 2 weapons too o.o
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels - ...?
12. Armour looks terible - buy an outfit?
13. Almost all skills are bad - well the only skills I like are aimed shot, piercing shot, multi shot and nature's mist
14. You will die alot - I won't with t3's and pots ^^
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels - I only go abyss anyway.
16. It mad me .... :eek: - ...?
17. Weakest of all classes. - bah
18. People call you a noob alot - no one called me a noob...
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them - ?
20. Whell do i have to write another one down. - many typos btw

[racegirl1985]

If archers suck so much how come I get from a lot of people the question if I could help them with a quest? And I get that from all classes. I got my archer to lvl 20 in about a day and I use a full spr build. If you don't know how to use an archer ofcourse you suck. Archers are my favorite class.

my 2 cents.

[kalone]

If archers suck so much how come I get from a lot of people the question if I could help them with a quest? And I get that from all classes. I got my archer to lvl 20 in about a day and I use a full spr build. If you don't know how to use an archer ofcourse you suck. Archers are my favorite class.

my 2 cents.

That is so... hot.

[mavricgabriel]

WTH!!!:eek:

just to turn things around.... I'LL MAKE THIS AS POSITIVELY ANSWERED AS POSSIBLE. And to the thread maker, lol... common man, try a bit harder... you just quit at lvl 3:rolleyes: now that is PHAIL

Why to not be a archer

1. They train slow
- i lvled my sub archer from 1-20 in less than 30 mins... is that slow?:confused:

2. Hit low
- if your not STR build which is BTW a base build for a DD archer

3. Bad def
- only if your a mage, lol

4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
- not necessarily, since im a bow user - im always the first one to complete a KQ quest due to its fast damage

5. Spend to much money on hp potions
- i dont, im a potion maker^_^

6. Low levels teriable
- huh??

7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
- wut??

8. Watse of time
- for a quitter maybe^_^

9. Least fun to use by me
- lol, no comment

10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
- does a mage and cleric have a third weapon??

11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
- IF, your not a SC buyer^_^ (im not BTW)

12. Armour looks terible
- Green is smexy

13. Almost all skills are bad
- IF u dont know how to use them properly

14. You will die alot
- doesn't everyone in some point?

15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
- common sense please (fighters have more HP)>.<

16. It mad me ....
- coz this thread sucks

17. Weakest of all classes.
- weaklings are those who calls themselves weak...

18. People call you a noob alot
- if you tend to heal^_^

19. Alot of people ask about them
- ask what??

20. Well do i have to write another one down.
- better not post again

[fairybonnie]

-.- another thread saying how "pointless" archers

no wonder theres hardly any high lvl archers about

we need a thread saying "why be an archer" ^^

[hankiepankie]

OP is obviously three years old and not only needs to work on his English skills, but needs to get a little common sense.

[raimez]

Because I said so.. dont like it then too bad , just shutup and do it

[Farashimisanoob]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/KoolKidsKlub93/give_up.jpg

[Scarlets]

This coming from a level 3 archer...?

Seriously, do you even have a dot skill yet?

[iscareppl860]

I would like to ask everyone to stop posting in this thread. If we stop posting it will eventually be lost in the many others like this that have come before it. SO just please ignore it.

[lilmetro]

who wouldnt get called noob at lv 3 a cleric even will be called a noob dont matter da class... and beside archers are underpowered.. heh, but think of this they are not fixed yet

[blazedaces]

-.- another thread saying how "pointless" archers

no wonder theres hardly any high lvl archers about

we need a thread saying "why be an archer" ^^

I feel that while the quantity of higher level archers might be a bit lower, the quality of higher level archers is very high.

Then again, once at that high level most people are better since they dedicate a lot of time to the game clearly, anyways...

-blazed

[Saruin]

I quit.

It's impossible to compete with mages. It's ridiculous how they do so much more damage than we do.

They downgraded mages with the new patch.

-narrows eyes-
And you can't quit. There are not enough innocents to eat.

[fireyair]

im still wondering if hipy ever actually realised he was complaining about archers only having two types of weapons...




Peace:cool:

[Saruin]

I would like to ask everyone to stop posting in this thread. If we stop posting it will eventually be lost in the many others like this that have come before it. SO just please ignore it.

I refuse to.

[Blitzscythe]

i got my archer to lvl 20 and it was quite fun, they are not weak and they hit pretty high.

don;t blame the archer class, maybe it;s just you who does not have good enough skills

[imdupree]

[QUOTE=Empathys;1036818]

Both classes are good at what they do.


[QUOTE]

I said i have no problem with archers its just that id rather use a mage or fighter. I like archers its just that im more comfortable with something else

[georgethehero]

I don't agree that armour looks terribly it looks the most cool. Take amges foe ex at lvl 70 their armour is still uglier than archer's armour of lvl 30.

[terumasa]

Archer glory!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[runkler]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)
1. They train slow-once ur level 20 u get better spells
2. Hit low-once u get level 20 u get better spells
3. Bad def-then put points on end...
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly-yea they do all u have to do is poision a monster then other atts u do more damage that way
5. Spend to much money on hp potions-umm no they dont if ur spending alot of pots ur fighting to high of levels...
6. Low levels teriable-some what ture but they are ok...
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon-...maybe not much but there spells do!
8. Watse of time-no its not..if u like to solo archer is a great class and a cleric isnt...lol
9. Least fun to use by me-its funner than standing around healing...
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons-only fighters get more than 2 choises
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels-...only one level of enchanting looks bad.
12. Armour looks terible.no i like it
13. Almost all skills are bad-they have awsome spells!
14. You will die alot-no mages and clerics die alot if ur in a pt they dont have alot of argo and if they do they can lose it by using natures protection...
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels-yea u can ....get a cleric or poision and run and then deliver final shot...
16. It mad me ....-what?
17. Weakest of all classes.-no mages are archers are pretty balanced
18. People call you a noob alot-i dont im very respectful to archers
19. Alot of people ask about them-huhh?
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.-yea u do because every word thats coming out of ur keyboard isnt making any sence try it again but think about it b4 u type it in...

please be nice to archers they are people too well elvs lol

[devilish_uk]

im sad to see this

i just lvl'd my archer to 21 (i think) so far im not that impressed but everything you said is based on a personal opinion of only 3 lvl's, I dont really think you can comment on how bad/good a certain class is after only 3 lvls.

I say you cant really have an educated opinion untill you have lvl'd to about 30 since this is about the time that all classes, depending on build/empowerments/armours/style of play/skill can really come into their own. this is the time that you will start to see a difference between your own and other classes, and you know what? Mostly it depends on how good/bad you are as a player in general.

I have plyed all of the classes, and personally my least favourite is the fighter, not because there is anything wrong with them, i just prefer other classes.

Truth is all classes have advantages and disadvantages, thats what makes them different!!

[Kealm]

True archery doesn't begin till 51 when you learn aoe mist. Since that's when the kiting methods and everything else that really put the archer cl@ss aside and in some cases above the other cl@sses. Not saying we're the best at everything, but when it comes to mobile aoe and pulling, that's our turf and no one elses.

[Ralyth]

i have a question for you why sit here and flame a class i should rant on how much clerics suc or at that fighters or even mages but no i dont the patches have improved archers a lot and you sitting here flaming them you have no place to flame an archer this is not what this general forum area is for please do not use this section of the forum to rant about archers this is supposed to help out other archers and other newbies that want to be arches do not use this section of the forum to flame a class its wrong and for you to have wasted such effort on this please reframe from flaming is all ask

[Ralyth]

btw thank you runkle for putting up good terms for archers othrs have no respect v.v

[Gravvi]

Archers are awesome. And look at my siggy for the lvl 80 archer armor. How is that sucky. Its awesomeness

[Zwivix]

Okay this agrument comes down to the people that made an archer and didnt know how to play one, and the people who know how to play an archer and can excel sometimes to incredible hights.

I personally love my archer and would never trade it for anything else in the world.

If you dont know how to play an archer dont get mad and say how bad Archers are....>.>

[Gravvi]

Okay this agrument comes down to the people that made an archer and didnt know how to play one, and the people who know how to play an archer and can excel sometimes to incredible hights.

I personally love my archer and would never trade it for anything else in the world.

If you dont know how to play an archer dont get mad and say how bad Archers are....>.>

Perfectly said.

[MissusDolly]

Firstly, you make a poor argument with your own opinions. I will counteract them with proven facts and my own knowledge.

1. They train slow
*Complete lies. I have gained a level in a day. From my first levels is I could level quickly. I got to 20 in about 3 days and that is at an enjoyable pace. Many can reach high levels quickly. So, basically this is your own experience and therefore wrong to cover the general.
2. Hit low
*This just means that you are comparing against either levels higher, people with +9, etc. You obviously haven't seen the shear power an archer contains. Archers are actually powerful depending upon a player's skill, build, etc.
3. Bad def
*Lies, we have more defense then a mage. Less then a fighter and a cleric, but enough to tank, solo, and pick off the stranded monsters. Obviously you haven't seen the full extent of how hard it can be to kill an archer.
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
*First and foremost this is a complete and utter lie. I got Mini Dragon before most that were higher levels then I and played the KQ much longer and they were a different class. Take it that I was like only level 48/49. So, no this is a lie. Each class has the same chances of getting a KQ kill.
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
*Um... no. If you do it correctly you can spend very little one stones/pots. I probably spent only 5s for every hour and I still had a ton of stones have that and I just stocked up. Many others spend very little on stones as well, so I know I am not the only one. Other classes spend quite a lot on stones/pots as well.
6. Low levels teriable
*First off you spelled terrible wrong. So, learn to spell correctly first. Before stating reasons to why a class sucks. Next, most classes in the low levels are about the same, but due to being able to solo kite we top the low level classes because we can utilize this to our advantage.
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
*This, I can't exactly comprehend due to your inability to describe what it means by hitting higher since it could be higher aim or damage. This is just how weapons are done, so you deal with it and find other ways to increase your damage.
8. Watse of time
*The only waste of time is the time you took to post this. If you didn't like the class then play one that you find to be a better use of your "time".
9. Least fun to use by me
*Don't play it then and don't post such things because it would save you and I a lot of trouble.
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
*Types is spelled wrong. Check a dictionary next time. ;D Mages and Clerics have only two weapons as well. So, how does this make our class bad, does that mean mages and clerics suck because they only have 2 weapons?
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
*Actually bows/crossbows have the prettiest enhancements of any weapons. Have you seen the +8 enhancement, absolutely stunning. Plus all enhancements are rather pretty and creates a unique weapon. So, this is a weak opinion that deserves no place in your argument.
12. Armour looks terible
*Again like above. Each set of armor is unique to the class and is based for different environments. The green-ish color most the armors have is to show that our class is a scout and therefore we are sneaky and should blend with our surroundings to avoid getting caught.
13. Almost all skills are bad
*No. Have you seen the level 51 skill, Nature's Mist. That is a very useful skill. Without our DoTs many would fail against a boss in a KQ or dungeon. Our skills are extremely useful in all situations from attacking a boss to soloing to AoEing.
14. You will die alot
*Any class can die a lot. Please find something that not every class can do to back your argument better because at this point I have destroyed your argument and torn it to shreds.
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
*Mages can't train where archers train at certain levels, fighters can't train where clerics train at certain levels, etc. Lies. I can train wherever I want as long as I use my knowledge of my archer. When you discover your archer's potential please come back then tell me if you can train where fighters your level train.
16. It mad me ....
*I and others are disgusted with your poor argument and for posting such bogus stuff.
17. Weakest of all classes.
*Only weak because it is made out to be the weakest class. Who are you to judge a class when you have only reached level 3. When you cap an archer come back and tell us if it is truly the weakest of all the classes because I may not have capped, but I know that no class is truly weak because they all have pros and cons.
18. People call you a noob alot
*People will call you a noob anyways because often times they are using it out of context because few understand the true meaning of the word. That means those people are just plain ignorant and rude.
19. Alot of people ask about them
*This makes them bad how? Please elaborate because I can not comprehend how this makes a class bad.
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.
*Please don't because your post is just full of lies and poor opinions.

To wrap the post up, you do not deserve my or other archers replies, but since I am kind and enjoy arguing with others poor arguments I have decided to challenge your statements. Lastly, do not EVER state why to not be an archer without playing the class to its full extent because level 3 gives you no right to come into the archer forum and post why a class sucks. Now to tie the bow on this pretty little post, please learn to enjoy what an archer is, its flaws, successes, and so many great and disappointing aspects of the class.
-Dolly

Please post... ._.

Edit: Finally it posts... =.=

[Madcharo]

Wow. Who are you to say Archers suck when you barely even got their first skill? All your arguments can be disproven easily by anyone who has played an Archer at LEAST up till lv 20. :rolleyes:

[enishi24]

well said dolly ;) they always say archers suck or bad or blah blah blah, but we're not.... being able to kite is a superior tactic an archer or scout can do, other class can't do it, they can only lure, but archers can lure & kite.... its a 2in1 combo :p

[leobaloy]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)


reasons not to be a person complaining about not being an archer
1. extremely bad spelling...
2. wth?! o.o archers are fun ( <----super fun lv24 archer Aoeing mobs in the abyss :O)
2. all classes besides fighters have 2 types of weapons
3. you shouldn't judge since you've only leveled twice >.< (remeber that you start at level 1)

and uhh....btw....you should...learn how to make a siggy @.@

[lucario448]

dude, if i were to say anything, archers are not the worst class, comon, i can take a lv 60 mage and im only lv 56, mages are the best against monsters, but archers are best for pvp, except for clerics, only fighters can actually beat them =.=

[Farashimisanoob]

d00d i herd magez can own ze archrz also lol

[lucario448]

d00d i herd magez can own ze archrz also lol

trust me archers high atk and mages low def= FAILURE for the mage
i have no spirit + though, only +21str +20 end +20dex :D, pretty weird huh:rolleyes:

[Farashimisanoob]

No, I know where Archer's faults are:
Defense = Lacking
- Most all Archers say they have good defense, correction; they don't.
My old archer was 2.8k hp with ONLY 425ish defense. I would not call that good since any fighters combo will tear through it.

Defense = Weak

Power = Lacking
- Again, same with defense, they are wrong, I had almost 200 str with a +9 and still attacked low (3xx-4xx power shot on an Orc [?], when my fighter can do 6xx-7xx on an Orc [?] with a similar +9 weapon.

Power = Weak

AoE Training [51+]
- Yes, I suppose this is good but.. Some faults:
Unless you are in a spot, where you can run around [In a large box] your gonna suck at this, also trying not to aggro more monsters is a must.

Mist = Weak

Overall : 0/10
Give them up, they are hopeless.

[NimbusCloud]

Take it from me.
Archers suck, make a mage.

we only suck in the hands of the inexperienced and laggy... kiting is uber fun. i cant wait till lvl 51 to solo aoe kite mobs :D

id like to see a mage do THAT :D (no offence to mages; they do other things better than us just as we do some things better than them)

EDIT: my in-game emotes dont work so well here XD ill change them up promptly V.V

[fireyair]

would you all stop posting in this thread? sheesh it sounds like we're all emo...




Peace:cool:

[Celtic_Princess]

would you all stop posting in this thread? sheesh it sounds like we're all emo...




Peace:cool:

last time i checked no one had broken out in tears over this topic. And if they choose to continue posting their opinions in this thread its their right to do so.

On Topic: How good an archer is depends on their build, their equips and the person on the other side of the monitor playing the character. Playing an archer till lvl 3 doesn't give an actual idea of what the class can do, and the points made in the original post have been refuted by multiple people throughout this thread.

[alchemeng]

1. They train slow
(at lower levels 1-30 I found it easy thus far to train I also grind in the abyss alone, expensive though)
2. Hit low
(I don't know the calculations for this but I'm pretty sure this is all dependen on build)
3. Bad def
(your wrong there archers weren't meant to be defensive types but they have more than a mage. Again this is also based on build)4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
(Hahahahaha sorry I find this hilarious we are known for DPS and I find it easier to get boss kills with my archer/mage)
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
(This is your only truth)
6. Low levels teriable
(please explain?)
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
(wth?)
8. Watse of time
(they're pretty fun actually)
9. Least fun to use by me
(no comment)
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
(*types What's the point of this? All characters have 2~3 weapons)
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
(just your opinion)
12. Armour looks terible
(I find I like the archers armor the most XD)
13. Almost all skills are bad
(They're working on it!)
14. You will die alot
(True but so do tanks think of it as dying for a cause)
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
(Please clarify such places)
16. It mad me .... :eek:
(no comment)
17. Weakest of all classes.
(Your opinion but I find these guys awesome in pvp and KQs)
18. People call you a noob alot
(uhh... never happened to me >.>)
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
(Archers are a challenge not to be played by the weak)
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.
(No you pretty much out did yourself, just relax and enjoy yourself)

Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

WT*? I'll stop right there.



Just look at the green.

Have a nice day.

EDIT: Celtic beat me again by like an hour XD Darn slow comp.

[Kiator]

:D i love mah archer..
^.^ once you get to 51 it's a hole new story..
-.- so don't start complaining till you get past lvl 51 and start playing with nature's mist.

[MagneusFighter]

lol whos the noob cleric who wrote this hopefully shes in apoline so i can own her archers dont suk heres a list y archers dont suk

1. mostly never have to use aim scroll
2. Mobs missed them alot
3. we have faster kills then clerics
4.were more fun then clerics cause all clerics do is heal
5. our +9 weapons look the coolest out of anyone
6. we have good stats if were not noobs and we know how to build then
plz add more

[dragonchill]

I read enough of this post to respond now. I have played all 4 classes past lvl 15. I like the archer over the mage for one reason, I don't have to use magic to be effective in a group. I fact I can continue to fight even if I run out of magic.

Archers are the classic kill stealers, just ask a fighter or cleric.

If a mage runs out of magic fighting a mob solo, they have to fight hand to hand up close with weak def and low hp. An archer can continue to attack at steady rate from a safe distance by running awy so distance.

Personally, I think that clerics have the best looking colorful armor. Green does get boring for archers after awhile.

Archers deal so much damage in a boss battle, bosses tend to chase archers not mages. I have died enough to know.

Finally, though not last, archers are never turned away from a group because they can always attack with constant damage over a long period of time without remember to use their special skills.

[alchemeng]

Archers are the classic kill stealers, just ask a fighter or cleric.

Personally, I think that clerics have the best looking colorful armor. Green does get boring for archers after awhile.



That's so true I always get KSed. I don't do it on my archer because I know how frustrating it is.

I love green (hint hint).

[MagneusFighter]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/dcshoes999/screenshot201-1.jpg

she said we have bad stats she could probaly never macth these stats i have no buffs on on the picture chek out my def <---- braggin lol

only lvl 48 no +9 yet. but i have +9 TK bow so im leveling so i can finally use it

archer get the easiest kills all we have to do is poison attacks

[dragonchill]

Archers get in more attacks than fighters therefore they critical more for double damage. Ouch! I have 10% at lvl 29. I normally get in 6 to 7 attacks on a mob before it dies. That is 2 crits every 3 battles.

[Farashimisanoob]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/dcshoes999/screenshot201-1.jpg

she said we have bad stats she could probaly never macth these stats i have no buffs on on the picture chek out my def <---- braggin lol

only lvl 48 no +9 yet. but i have +9 TK bow so im leveling so i can finally use it

archer get the easiest kills all we have to do is poison attacks

Sorry, but that is just epic fail.
Get more end equips.
http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/KoolKidsKlub93/screenshot700-1.jpg
Before I got my +26 end level 56 hat, and gave up my archer.

Edit v6.98 : Hm, I appear to have taken off some equips..

[runkler]

would you all stop posting in this thread? sheesh it sounds like we're all emo...




Peace:cool:
lmfao ... but ARCHERS ARE A GOOD CLASS PEOPLES! they get a better aoe bf mages do a good good one aoe poision! HELLO! and then they have 2 aes b4 mages and then get get 3 just like mages do so it get ballanaced out...

[wcslayer3]

lvl3... thats it?wth! i got to lvl 20 in 1 day and we do get lots o kills i never die in abyss unlesss atked by person i hit lots o damage and wat really cheezed me off was that u said enhancements look dumb? ours our the best look at ur dumb ones seriously here a purple line going around the wep wow


NOTE:this is my first post i normally dont get this angry at someone to post.

[Kierya]

Well, I created an archer about 3 days ago. She's now level 21. I'm having a wonderful time with her.

My Observations...
Not as squishy as I feared. Actually she's died a lot less than even my clerics.
Expenditure of stones & pots is higher than my clerics, but on par with my fighters.
Awesome damage and much of it at a safe distance.
Poison!!! I like this. lol.
Lucky - In KQ slime, she's gotten pets, which none of my others ever did.
I like Green & the armors are more attractive than fighter or cleric, but not as elegant as mages.
Archers - male & female are cute. ;)

[MagneusFighter]

she said we have bad stats she could probaly never macth these stats i have no buffs on on the picture chek out my def <---- braggin lol

only lvl 48 no +9 yet. but i have +9 TK bow so im leveling so i can finally use it

archer get the easiest kills all we have to do is poison attacks

Sorry, but that is just epic fail.
Get more end equips.

Before I got my +26 end level 56 hat, and gave up my archer.

Edit v6.98 : Hm, I appear to have taken off some equips..

im only lvl 48 not lvl 56 so this i pretty good for lvl 48
i have all end+20 armor right now

[Celtic_Princess]

she said we have bad stats she could probaly never macth these stats i have no buffs on on the picture chek out my def <---- braggin lol

only lvl 48 no +9 yet. but i have +9 TK bow so im leveling so i can finally use it

archer get the easiest kills all we have to do is poison attacks

Sorry, but that is just epic fail.
Get more end equips.

Before I got my +26 end level 56 hat, and gave up my archer.

Edit v6.98 : Hm, I appear to have taken off some equips..

im only lvl 48 not lvl 56 so this i pretty good for lvl 48
i have all end+20 armor right now

Um...what picture?

[lenaic]

At lvl 77-83 people like grouping with us.. a lot.. we can do the repeats faster than any other class by just having a cleric. I'm finding myself in full pts where they just follow me for the quests =p. Archers don't suck.. just some people that play archers XD

[Farashimisanoob]

Um...what picture?

My picture?
It must've been taken off.

[MagneusFighter]

how many stones does a lvl 48 archer carry anyone know

[adryden1313]

lmao i cant believe this thread is still going...on a side note...now that i know what server they are on, and me have a multitude of time on my hands i think imma take a gander over there and perhaps make another archer...lvl it up...and prove a point =0)

[Guinevere-Ai]

Reasons to be an archer:
1. Archers can hit from afar, making getting a single enemy without too much aggro very easy.
2. Their armor looks pretty darn awesome after level 8.
3. Their status-effecting skills come in handy when you want to get rid of an enemy faster.
4. Mist is AWESOME.
5. DEX is naturally high, making it easier to evade attacks, even from high-leveled monsters.
6. You can hit a boss in KQs or events from afar, avoiding damage from AoE attacks the boss may have.
7. Archers are the ultimate KSing class. (which is really a downside, but people may beg to differ)
8. Archers can deal damage if one chooses the damage-dealing build.
And,
9. The female archer's unique dance is pretty awesome.
C:

[kamarii13219]

OK REALLY ARCHERS ARE GOOD But *Its not the worst Class but can be CLERICS* I OWN A CLERIC THEY BOSS ME AROUND I CANT HEAL 10-20 ppl at a time im not saying its the worst i love the armor and stuff

[Juan0129]

Clerics are very good actually...

Archers have their ups and downs, and so do the other classes...

[lightmagician6]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

I have 1.They looks like bananas at the beginning when u first play them.:D:D:D

[Farashimisanoob]

Reasons to be an archer:
1. Archers can hit from afar, making getting a single enemy without too much aggro very easy. [Wrong]
2. Their armor looks pretty darn awesome after level 8. [Wrong]
3. Their status-effecting skills come in handy when you want to get rid of an enemy faster. [Wrong]
4. Mist is AWESOME. [Wrong]
5. DEX is naturally high, making it easier to evade attacks, even from high-leveled monsters. [Wrong]
6. You can hit a boss in KQs or events from afar, avoiding damage from AoE attacks the boss may have.
7. Archers are the ultimate KSing class. (which is really a downside, but people may beg to differ)
8. Archers can deal damage if one chooses the damage-dealing build. [Wrong]
And,
9. The female archer's unique dance is pretty awesome. [Wrong]
C:

A few points.

[Jartica]

Archer is just boring end of story. i made one lvl 2 and just deleted it cause they dont kill fast...they have to run from mobs....and i seriously think fighter and mage and cleric are easier to do...1 mage dont have to run most just do. 2 cleric can heal themselves and do dmg....3 fighter just rock :3 lol

[Gravvi]

Archer is just boring end of story. i made one lvl 2 and just deleted it cause they dont kill fast...they have to run from mobs....and i seriously think fighter and mage and cleric are easier to do...1 mage dont have to run most just do. 2 cleric can heal themselves and do dmg....3 fighter just rock :3 lol

Umm only class that can kill fast starting off is mage. clerics can't heal themselves at lvl 2. Your just as bad as the OP. Didn't even give archer class a chance. Honestly if archers were as bad as people said. I wouldn't have been able to make it to lvl 81.

[Farashimisanoob]

Umm only class that can kill fast starting off is mage. clerics can't heal themselves at lvl 2. Your just as bad as the OP. Didn't even give archer class a chance. Honestly if archers were as bad as people said. I wouldn't have been able to make it to lvl 81.

They're bad.

[PolarCoconuts]

I'm getting sick of people complaining how bad archers are. The archer to me, is the most fun class. yes our first aoe has cast time, but that adds the challenge and thus fun. If archers weren't the way they were we wouldn't be learning anything. My points are. An archer doesn't have a whole lot of skills. True, but false. Because of the lack of skills, we have more money to keep us alive. Mages have worse defense and more skills than us, therefore they are extremely high maintence to handle. Archers do hit for low damage, but you'll just have to live with it, thats what DoTs are for. Sometimes they work sometimes they don't but that doesn't mean you should give up so easily. Becoming an archer was a good experience for me. Soloing comes very easy for me (I don't even have a +9 bow/crossbow) I make a lot of money and exp fast. I never buy potions, I rely on stones which are really cheap in your lvl 20s. I have an easier time with my archer than my fighter. Now thats saying something o.o I cannot peak around the forums for 1 day without there being some kind of complaint about archers. It's annoying, and complaining constantly isn't going to do anything. I disagree with the armor being ugly though, it's designed to match Nature. Which is what an elf is about. And natures mist does rock, if it wasn't for it, I wouldn't have tried playing an archer. 1 more thing, I have a much easier time soloing my lvl 26 archer without an endure buff, than I do with my lvl 49 mage with an endure buff. I've almost completely given up on my mage because I rarely get a good party, I die constantly, every single day I die more than a cleric in POA within a week. My build isn't bad either. I even have a +9 wand. I might not been made to have a mage

[Jartica]

Umm only class that can kill fast starting off is mage. clerics can't heal themselves at lvl 2. Your just as bad as the OP. Didn't even give archer class a chance. Honestly if archers were as bad as people said. I wouldn't have been able to make it to lvl 81.

dont need to ive seen how many archer there are....and ive partied with many of em...Most whine cause mock takes so long to recover and they die from it. end of my discussion here.

[Farashimisanoob]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s156/KoolKidsKlub93/This_Thread.jpg

[Guinevere-Ai]

I've beaten down mages tons of times in abyss and pvp.
Use skills like Aimed shot and Power shot before they can use HP stones and their spells.

[Gravvi]

dont need to ive seen how many archer there are....and ive partied with many of em...Most whine cause mock takes so long to recover and they die from it. end of my discussion here.

Lol So you say we don't do enough dmg. THen why are we taking aggro from fighters who have mock. You contradicted yourself. LOL you never partied with me. ARchers can take aggro faster than all classes (at higher lvls anyway), Even faster than mages. I take aggro from them all the time. I actually have only seen 3 fighters who can keep aggro from me.

[zerozone01]

<--- havent ound a fighter who keep aggro from me yet

[RetroZero]

Archer rules, they are probably the best for pulling multiple mobs in br and kiting them.

[Farashimisanoob]

Why, I feel this redundant how many times I need to say it.
Archers are bad, give them up.

[solidus00014]

MAN I HATE IT WHEN PPL SAY ARCHERS SUCK!!! AND YOU CANT JUDGE THEM BY GETTING TO LEVEL 3 ><. I have a level 52 archer AND HE ROX!!! I can solo in abyss, BoD, and a lot of other places. That is all.
Epith : level 51 archer, I have others put I forgot there levels ^^.
Name : legolas14

[solidus00014]

MAN I HATE IT WHEN PPL SAY ARCHERS SUCK!!! AND YOU CANT JUDGE THEM BY GETTING TO LEVEL 3 ><. I have a level 52 archer AND HE ROX!!! I can solo in abyss, BoD, and a lot of other places. That is all.
Epith : level 52 archer, I have others put I forgot there levels ^^.
Name : legolas14

[koager]

archers do feel really slow at first but they are amazing afterwards
once you get poison mist, just cast that, run around for a bit and then fire an AoE. I've seen archers solo like that in high level'd places and it is amazing and makes me jealous (mage with magic burst still needs party). They can quickly kill mobs and get so much exp.
also, a dex archer will pwn in pvp

I can refute at least half of the points that were made on the first page

[Gravvi]

Why, I feel this redundant how many times I need to say it.
Archers are bad, give them up.

Noone listens to trolls.

[skindeeplsd]

LOL i made it to lvl 16 with out dieing at all and i started killing in FoM at lvl 9 ( just started my archer ) and i find the mage to be boring along with the fighter....i have a lvl 43 fighter and i just dont like playing it...

[Killgormatic]

Archers are only class that i know of that can take aoe in the big rooms solo. after lvl 51. people sometimes get sick of me not sharing and just kill me for no reason not even asking. so id say archers are the better lvling class. only took me 3 weeks to get to lvl 56

[FearMySouthernAccent]

Why, I feel this redundant how many times I need to say it.
Archers are bad, give them up.

Dude, you're really trying hard to be a troll, aren't you?

Posting images from Motivational Posters =/= being funny.

Give it up.

[xxsentinelxx]

I love being an archer, I tried all the other classes and being a fighter is basically following the crowd, Clerics, while they are necessary, there are enough to go around, mage... no thanks.

Range can hit from far away, act as a good person to fight with, can deal damage while the enemy is still comming at you, I mean, its fun. People talk of dropping the class, but I say keep it, make it a challange for those who like to earn their share instead of walking up to somthing and smashing it with a sword or axe.

[fireyair]

I love being an archer, I tried all the other classes and being a fighter is basically following the crowd, Clerics, while they are necessary, there are enough to go around, mage... no thanks.

Range can hit from far away, act as a good person to fight with, can deal damage while the enemy is still comming at you, I mean, its fun. People talk of dropping the class, but I say keep it, make it a challange for those who like to earn their share instead of walking up to somthing and smashing it with a sword or axe.

exactly! why walk up to them and smash them with a sword/axe if you can do it with an aroow without walking???




Peace:cool:

[ToshCrimson]

Archers are only class that i know of that can take aoe in the big rooms solo. after lvl 51. people sometimes get sick of me not sharing and just kill me for no reason not even asking. so id say archers are the better lvling class. only took me 3 weeks to get to lvl 56

hey merlin XD wow u lvled fast. When i would solo in abyss i would have fighters coming at me from left and right trying to take my room so i had to kill all my mobs and the fighters too... good times...:cool:

[DarkSoulDS]

I'm not sure why anyone has bothered to respond to this thread....The guy who wrote it has nothing over a 3x what could he possibley know about any of the classes...let alone an archer when hes a lvl 3. One of the reasons he gives for not likeing archers is being called a nub. Well I say if the title fits it doesnt matter the class. And the title of Nub has been offically awarded to the writer of this thread.....play a class and once you reach a respectable lvl you may discuss the advantages and disavantages of playing it with he rest of us.

Oh Just for the record:

8x Archer
7x Fighter
5x Mage
3x Cleric

[garpjop]

i have lvl 11 cleric and fighter , i started them both before i tryed my acrcher. my archer flingum, is a lvl 75 at the monent and the cleric and fighter are still lvl 11.
my archer was dex and spr , but at lvl 60 i added str and just a little end.
i can kill any thing solo a fighter of same lvl can. i can kill in aoe not as fast as mage, but
i am fast too:}i have maxed cool times on aoe and power .my archer can tank when the tank goes down ,i save the cleric and mage from stray mobs, i am happy with my archer.

[fireyair]

I'm not sure why anyone has bothered to respond to this thread....The guy who wrote it has nothing over a 3x what could he possibley know about any of the classes...let alone an archer when hes a lvl 3. One of the reasons he gives for not likeing archers is being called a nub. Well I say if the title fits it doesnt matter the class. And the title of Nub has been offically awarded to the writer of this thread.....play a class and once you reach a respectable lvl you may discuss the advantages and disavantages of playing it with he rest of us.

Oh Just for the record:

8x Archer
7x Fighter
5x Mage
3x Cleric

theres no need to flame, everyone is entitled to an opinion




Peace:cool:

[Seria]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.


1.Not really
2. o.o I never hit low. It depends on their stats.
3. My def, with scrolls, and cleric party buff, is nearish a fighters. About 2xx diff? XD Its not that bad.
4. I get kills in kqs all the time- most parties im in if htey need a kill they usually get alot of them. Cant say all in one kq due to the fact kkp has alot of bosses and its hard to get htem all in one shot.
5.Thats true we spend alot of money
6. Not really if you think about it. Mage aoe sucks so the archer aoe is the best thing at those lvls.
7. O.o?
8. They are very far from being a waist of time.
9. They are actually alot of fun, just get past lvl 2x- it's not htat hard.
10. o.o Its a archer doi.... they use bows.. and xbows. XD sowwy.
11. I thought the enchancments look hawt. O.o Feathers ftw.
12. Some of the armor looks bad. But ever class has those moments. Its normal.
13. The skills are actually good. The poison helps alot. Especially the poison aoes. O.o
14. Not really. Depends on your stats. The lower lvls I died alot. Depends on how careful the archer is, its stats. o.o but Anymore they really dont die in the upper lvls much. Just depends if they went squishy main dd type thing.
15. If all classes were alike and able to handle the same things, what since would there be in parties? With different classes...
16. o.o Lmao
17. Yeah we're weakest- due to the fact we are missing skills that other verions of fiesta have.
18. Personally i was never called a noob.
19. O.o..
20. ;3 nu but i really dont agree with your opinions


^^ but everyone ish entitled to their own opinions~

[fireyair]

1.Not really
2. o.o I never hit low. It depends on their stats.
3. My def, with scrolls, and cleric party buff, is nearish a fighters. About 2xx diff? XD Its not that bad.
4. I get kills in kqs all the time- most parties im in if htey need a kill they usually get alot of them. Cant say all in one kq due to the fact kkp has alot of bosses and its hard to get htem all in one shot.
5.Thats true we spend alot of money
6. Not really if you think about it. Mage aoe sucks so the archer aoe is the best thing at those lvls.
7. O.o?
8. They are very far from being a waist of time.
9. They are actually alot of fun, just get past lvl 2x- it's not htat hard.
10. o.o Its a archer doi.... they use bows.. and xbows. XD sowwy.
11. I thought the enchancments look hawt. O.o Feathers ftw.
12. Some of the armor looks bad. But ever class has those moments. Its normal.
13. The skills are actually good. The poison helps alot. Especially the poison aoes. O.o
14. Not really. Depends on your stats. The lower lvls I died alot. Depends on how careful the archer is, its stats. o.o but Anymore they really dont die in the upper lvls much. Just depends if they went squishy main dd type thing.
15. If all classes were alike and able to handle the same things, what since would there be in parties? With different classes...
16. o.o Lmao
17. Yeah we're weakest- due to the fact we are missing skills that other verions of fiesta have.
18. Personally i was never called a noob.
19. O.o..
20. ;3 nu but i really dont agree with your opinions


^^ but everyone ish entitled to their own opinions~

mind you, i only read that because it was colorful




Peace:cool:

[snowflakedragon]

[QUOTE=thehipyman;1036001]1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.




sorry i was reading this and i couldn't get enough of this stupid tread.
so i decided to respond for the first time ever ^^

so ill run over your nummer and respond
1. they train fast when you grind alot
2. archers don't hit low at all, i get alot of argo in whatever kq i was and i'm not even str build
3. :confused: mine deff is like 100 lower then a fighter in mine guild of same lvl and i'm not pure end either
4. :eek: i got every kq kill that i needed for a quest archers are great in getting kills
5. i sometimes use hp pots true but all classes do try typing and aoe at the same time :rolleyes: but then again i get enough money back to buy those pots
6. all low lvls go hard when your used to an other class, i tried them all and i always die the first 10 lvls with any class but after that you'll die alot less becuase your use to using it
7. :confused:
8.
9. everybody likes something else but i respect the other there choise
10. all classes got 2 types of weapons except fighter those got 3 big deal most fightere use only 2 of the 3 anyway
11. well this is again like question 9, you like it or you hate it no crime in that
12. at some point the gear was ugly i know but then again after it it became very nice in mine eye's
13. if you know a good combo at your skills, and if the empower them the right way they can own alot
14. i don't die that easely, mayby becuase of mine build but still i only die when i lag or typing without looking to mine screen
15. say a place to train where fighter can and archers can't i can assure you i'll stay alive without pots like the fighter
16. what mads you :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
17. if archers are weakest of them all why do clerics/fighters/mage's got so much trouble killing me :confused: unless the are pure str but then again they die faster if they are, most people that kill me are 5+ lvls and are using aim scroll to even hit (no i'm not dex build)
18. they only call me ***** becuase i kill them :rolleyes: noob when i keep killing them for saying ***** :p
19. yes already had some low lvl archers ask me questions about what the best builds are but then again i like to tell them
i started mine build alone and after a lvl of 55 i finaly realised i didn't need int for a archer so i wasted like 10 on int :D so no harm in asking questions
20. you need to write alot more down i wanne laugh some more ;)

grz


Apoline

Archer 78+ (kiala27)
Fighter 43+ (xXxsnowgirlxXx)
Mage 22+ (LittleKiala)

[strawrberry]

As someone already said, I played my archer for a while, got her to 20-odd, then played my mage and wondered why the hell I had to keep pushing buttons to kill.....


One of my favorite things to say is "Less talk more kill" and I like not having to do much while I make said kill..

Besides, Cherry_Pie, Zegaii, REDFROGSAGE (and the rest, too many archers to list, really) Have the most GORGEOUS armour I have seen, and they are sooooooo small and cute too.... :/ and deadly.

I don't hate mages or archers, I hate people who hate classes because they don't know how to play them..

I love people who can make me smile, irrespective of class.

[Seria]

mind you, i only read that because it was colorful




Peace:cool:
:3 Colorful ftw~

o: -should have used prettier colors-

[mikasakura]

Archers are not the weakest first i can say, their posion, bleed, venom is the biggest weapon already, the second, archers is the best job in my view.

thirdly, archers solos the best ...arg, not count clerics, they are crazy.
and archers can aoe-solo a lot easier then all other classes, even mage and fighters can do aoes as archers can (nature mist).

so add them all together, they are the best class!

[Farashimisanoob]

[Trolls Archers more]

[fireyair]

[Trolls Archers more]

http://www.dailyhaha.com/_pics/Bad_Post.jpg





Peace:cool:

[Farashimisanoob]

[Continues the trolling]

[fireyair]

bah, stupid mages
trix are for kids





Peace:cool:

[Seria]

o.o Troling?




:3

[fireyair]

wikipedia: "An Internet troll, or simply troll in Internet slang, is someone who posts controversial and irrelevant or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum or chat room, with the intention of provoking other users into an emotional response[1] or to generally disrupt normal on-topic discussion."




Peace:cool:

[Mistyhoney]

lvl 71 cleric (i think not logged on so long :p P)

ps.. dont underestimate an archer ;)
all i can say :)

[blackguy729]

mages have worst def and archers do more damage at lower lvls then any class

[blackguy729]

oh and u can only by pots from OTHER PLASERS DUMBASS

[whitelion318]

lol u obv dont no how 2 use them then .... depending on your build ehhh ..... if u have a nub build no wonder u nubish ...... try askling around for peoples opinions on them and at lvl 51 they can aoe kite which is reli helpfull to solo and get great exp in abyss .. and they have an awsome evasion .. which is usefull in pvp xD maybee its just not your class

[imdupree]

[QUOTE=thehipyman;1036001]
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons

Lol, *** else is a archer supposed to use? Cause sling shots are WAY more deadly than a bow or crossbow XD

[MagneusFighter]

damn this thread is long but if some of u fighter,mages and clerics think archers bad then ur crazy i can easily own mages with +9 weapons and i dont have +9 weapon right now(Have TK+9 bow Though waiting so bad to use T_T) i can also kill fighters my lvl and clerics well im a pretty good macth for them but they heal to much so i can never really kill one that often(unless their noobs lol)

[ToshCrimson]

damn this thread is long but if some of u fighter,mages and clerics think archers bad then ur crazy i can easily own mages with +9 weapons and i dont have +9 weapon right now(Have TK+9 bow Though waiting so bad to use T_T) i can also kill fighters my lvl and clerics well im a pretty good macth for them but they heal to much so i can never really kill one that often(unless their noobs lol)

me lvl 66 archer no +9 and using a bow vs a lvl 68 mage +9 staff = I win... so ya i can beat down mages XD. I have no problems with any other class I dont see why other classes have problems with us.:(

[lordofthesick]

damn this thread is long but if some of u fighter,mages and clerics think archers bad then ur crazy i can easily own mages with +9 weapons and i dont have +9 weapon right now(Have TK+9 bow Though waiting so bad to use T_T) i can also kill fighters my lvl and clerics well im a pretty good macth for them but they heal to much so i can never really kill one that often(unless their noobs lol)

archers in pvp are a mages worst enemy , mages have low physical def , archers deal ranged physical dmg, a mage cant run from a archer like they can from a fighter xD.....the problems ive seen with archers is of course lack of skills and some of thier cooldowns seem a little long.....if outspark would just give archers thier entangle and stun skills people would see archers in a whole new light

[awestmorelandx3]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

First off, you don't know jack about being an archer at lvl 3.

WOW.rofl. this was the most un thought out thread i've read.

lol. that's all i can do is laugh at this.

[Gilgaeth]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: about them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage Bijou
Lvl 28 cleric Bijou
Lvl 14 fighter Apoline
Lvl 3 archer Bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

What.....the...heck....you have no idea how fun archers can get to be. I think people might have called u a noob, cuz, maybe, at lvl 3 u are one. Every think of that? XD Archers have a lot of amazing skills, sure they take forever to level, but so do other classes. Archers can be very effective if u simply HAVE THE PATIENCE TO USE THEM AND NOT GIVE UP AT A LEVEL NOT EVEN WORTH MENTIONING!!!!

excuse me for that. by your levels, I can say that you probably haven't played fiesta that much. I would probably have to say that your judgement on archers might be a little effected by the fact that it is weak compared to your other people

[Farashimisanoob]

Archers aren't fun.

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Archers aren't fun.

You badmouth archers all day long, but I don't think I've ever heard one single plausible argument from you yet.

[Nyoro]

hm what do you know... there's still archer hate threads...
mind not telling us? its up to the person to decide if they like
playing as an archer or not. I've kept at it ever since i made
nyo about a year ago.

[EriAeris]

Firstly, you make a poor argument with your own opinions. I will counteract them with proven facts and my own knowledge.

1. They train slow
*Complete lies. I have gained a level in a day. From my first levels is I could level quickly. I got to 20 in about 3 days and that is at an enjoyable pace. Many can reach high levels quickly. So, basically this is your own experience and therefore wrong to cover the general.
2. Hit low
*This just means that you are comparing against either levels higher, people with +9, etc. You obviously haven't seen the shear power an archer contains. Archers are actually powerful depending upon a player's skill, build, etc.
3. Bad def
*Lies, we have more defense then a mage. Less then a fighter and a cleric, but enough to tank, solo, and pick off the stranded monsters. Obviously you haven't seen the full extent of how hard it can be to kill an archer.
4. Dont get kills from KQs easlly
*First and foremost this is a complete and utter lie. I got Mini Dragon before most that were higher levels then I and played the KQ much longer and they were a different class. Take it that I was like only level 48/49. So, no this is a lie. Each class has the same chances of getting a KQ kill.
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
*Um... no. If you do it correctly you can spend very little one stones/pots. I probably spent only 5s for every hour and I still had a ton of stones have that and I just stocked up. Many others spend very little on stones as well, so I know I am not the only one. Other classes spend quite a lot on stones/pots as well.
6. Low levels teriable
*First off you spelled terrible wrong. So, learn to spell correctly first. Before stating reasons to why a class sucks. Next, most classes in the low levels are about the same, but due to being able to solo kite we top the low level classes because we can utilize this to our advantage.
7.They like dont hit much higher each weapon
*This, I can't exactly comprehend due to your inability to describe what it means by hitting higher since it could be higher aim or damage. This is just how weapons are done, so you deal with it and find other ways to increase your damage.
8. Watse of time
*The only waste of time is the time you took to post this. If you didn't like the class then play one that you find to be a better use of your "time".
9. Least fun to use by me
*Don't play it then and don't post such things because it would save you and I a lot of trouble.
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
*Types is spelled wrong. Check a dictionary next time. ;D Mages and Clerics have only two weapons as well. So, how does this make our class bad, does that mean mages and clerics suck because they only have 2 weapons?
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
*Actually bows/crossbows have the prettiest enhancements of any weapons. Have you seen the +8 enhancement, absolutely stunning. Plus all enhancements are rather pretty and creates a unique weapon. So, this is a weak opinion that deserves no place in your argument.
12. Armour looks terible
*Again like above. Each set of armor is unique to the class and is based for different environments. The green-ish color most the armors have is to show that our class is a scout and therefore we are sneaky and should blend with our surroundings to avoid getting caught.
13. Almost all skills are bad
*No. Have you seen the level 51 skill, Nature's Mist. That is a very useful skill. Without our DoTs many would fail against a boss in a KQ or dungeon. Our skills are extremely useful in all situations from attacking a boss to soloing to AoEing.
14. You will die alot
*Any class can die a lot. Please find something that not every class can do to back your argument better because at this point I have destroyed your argument and torn it to shreds.
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
*Mages can't train where archers train at certain levels, fighters can't train where clerics train at certain levels, etc. Lies. I can train wherever I want as long as I use my knowledge of my archer. When you discover your archer's potential please come back then tell me if you can train where fighters your level train.
16. It mad me ....
*I and others are disgusted with your poor argument and for posting such bogus stuff.
17. Weakest of all classes.
*Only weak because it is made out to be the weakest class. Who are you to judge a class when you have only reached level 3. When you cap an archer come back and tell us if it is truly the weakest of all the classes because I may not have capped, but I know that no class is truly weak because they all have pros and cons.
18. People call you a noob alot
*People will call you a noob anyways because often times they are using it out of context because few understand the true meaning of the word. That means those people are just plain ignorant and rude.
19. Alot of people ask about them
*This makes them bad how? Please elaborate because I can not comprehend how this makes a class bad.
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.
*Please don't because your post is just full of lies and poor opinions.

To wrap the post up, you do not deserve my or other archers replies, but since I am kind and enjoy arguing with others poor arguments I have decided to challenge your statements. Lastly, do not EVER state why to not be an archer without playing the class to its full extent because level 3 gives you no right to come into the archer forum and post why a class sucks. Now to tie the bow on this pretty little post, please learn to enjoy what an archer is, its flaws, successes, and so many great and disappointing aspects of the class.
-Dolly

Please post... ._.

Edit: Finally it posts... =.=

DOLLY! I MISS YOU! :(

Take that! XP

In real life... Archers can kill a lot of people faster than any other class... Archers are the most evasive... XP!

Archers sometimes hit twice after or before using a skill!

It's happened! XP

NOW WHAT?!

All classes rock! (PERIOD)

[fireyair]

DOLLY! I MISS YOU! :(

Take that! XP

In real life... Archers can kill a lot of people faster than any other class... Archers are the most evasive... XP!

Archers sometimes hit twice after or before using a skill!

It's happened! XP

NOW WHAT?!

All classes rock! (PERIOD)

lol, eri exploded all over the thread



Peace:cool:

[Kealm]

hm what do you know... there's still archer hate threads...
mind not telling us? its up to the person to decide if they like
playing as an archer or not. I've kept at it ever since i made
nyo about a year ago.


Yep they still exist, and for those of us who actually know what we're doing and play the cl@ss well we're laughing at these threads from begginning to end, because they all lack one thing: actual insight.

[fireyair]

Yep they still exist, and for those of us who actually know what we're doing and play the cl@ss well we're laughing at these threads from begginning to end, because they all lack one thing: actual insight.

i noticed that, ever since the 6.9.08 patch we've had less and less archer hate threads every week. none of the new ones are made by archers, just mages who have nothing to do





Peace:cool:

[Kealm]

i noticed that, ever since the 6.9.08 patch we've had less and less archer hate threads every week. none of the new ones are made by archers, just mages who have nothing to do





Peace:cool:

Mages ... i haven't payed attention lol. What's funnier is when i party a cleric and do my routine and they freak out because i'm trailing my normal mob of 30 + extras because of the party buffs and availability of heals. It never fails, at least once a week i meet some unknowing cleric who has never kited with an experienced archer when he/she isn't being lazy and i surprise the heck out of them with how fast the xp piles.

[Farashimisanoob]

You badmouth archers all day long, but I don't think I've ever heard one single plausible argument from you yet.

Here's the proof.
It's in the OP's post.

[Kealm]

Here's the proof.
It's in the OP's post.


You would use the OPINIONS of a LEVEL 3 archer? That's the lamest comeback i've ever seen, but definately lol worthy.

[ToshCrimson]

Here's the proof.
It's in the OP's post.

the OP's argument has been dis proven time and time again so you still have no proof

peace (u know who u are XD)

[tiricky]

seriously idk why people keep saying archers suck.

[fireyair]

seriously idk why people keep saying archers suck.

:confused: im pretty sure the OP says why he thinks archers suck... not that he has any clue what he's saying, he just wants to sound like a pro




Peace:cool:

[EriAeris]

lol, eri exploded all over the thread



Peace:cool:

I did explode the thread but there are no flames... that's how cool I am :cool:

-EriAeris, {iDream}

[Gravvi]

Notice how the OP stopped posting. This thread can die now.

[Seria]

hm what do you know... there's still archer hate threads...
mind not telling us? its up to the person to decide if they like
playing as an archer or not. I've kept at it ever since i made
nyo about a year ago.
^^ yay I feel a lil less (fiesta age) old now. I made my archer, Hazu, right hwen I started playing about a year ago. ;D And i've stuck with her. Even trhough the times when people majorly insulted archers and said I should change classes.


Mages ... i haven't payed attention lol. What's funnier is when i party a cleric and do my routine and they freak out because i'm trailing my normal mob of 30 + extras because of the party buffs and availability of heals. It never fails, at least once a week i meet some unknowing cleric who has never kited with an experienced archer when he/she isn't being lazy and i surprise the heck out of them with how fast the xp piles.
:D Kite aoeing ftw~ do to that we can solo more than a fighter or any class can. And with a cleric we pwn.
Same when pulling in abyss or maps when training. ;D


Here's the proof.
It's in the OP's post.
That's NO proof at all, sorry to say. Because the OP has no reall experience at being an archer.
Archers have a lack of skills but we are still a good class. But Archers do not suck. IT takes a real person to be a archer. To STICK with the class. TO ignore the people who put us down and think we're worthless. And the people who are our friends. Who party with us. Those are true fiesta friends.






People who insult archers, put us down, think we're useless, and dont even play a archer- have never really duoed or partyied with a archer, their opinions are empty.







^.^ <3

[fireyair]

i think gravvi's right, this thread should just die




Peace:cool:

[darcholich]

1. They train slow
2. Hit low
3. Bad def
4. Dont get kills from kqs easlly
5. Spend to much money on hp potions
6. Low levels teriable
7.they like dont hit much higher each weapon
8. Watse of time
9. Least fun to use by me
10. Only 2 tipes of weapons
11. Enchantment looks dumb at most of levels
12. Armour looks terible
13. Almost all skills are bad
14. You will die alot
15. You cant train in places that fighters can at certain levels
16. It mad me .... :eek:
17. Weakest of all classes.
18. People call you a noob alot
19. Alot of people ask :confused: About them
20. Whell do i have to write another one down.



If you have more reasons please post.



Lvl 17 mage bijou
lvl 28 cleric bijou
lvl 14 fighter apoline
lvl 3 archer bijou (got tried of it so quickly)

gurl, how dayuh you!?!?

jking, bu still; archer's arent that bad; they hav periodic damage spells; they dont hav to do all they're damage up fron to make it work; they dont rely much on magic

id list more but i get the feeling ive already dug myself a deep enuff hole...

[FearMySouthernAccent]

Lol Farish gave me neg rep cause I neg repped him for being a silly troll.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

[Celtic_Princess]

Lol Farish gave me neg rep cause I neg repped him for being a silly troll.


LOLOLOLOLOLOL.

not necessary to tell us. And since this has gotten insanely redundant I'm going to see if a CL will close it.

[Serric]

I like my archer.... build em right, equip em right and choose the right enemy and you're golden.

As for this thread, however... {R.I.P.}