View Full Version : The aco that helped them all...then refused to help anyone...
diedwithoutasoul
08-29-2008, 09:37 PM
There I was....accidentally changed to aco >.> and now I was stuck like this.
But then I grew to love helping plpl. Constantly walking all the way to Loren even though I was tracked there just to buff and heal some newbs.
I though one day...when I get to cleric they'll say "That was the aco that revived me when I died" or "That's a good aco". But then it stopped. EVERYONE soon wanted a buff or a heal or expected to be revived by me. But I wasen't something that could be demanded of. So I did one simple thing
NO!
I had had it....I didn't mind buffing newbies but when someone expects you to buff their entire party thats where I drew the line (cause they didn't invite me -.-)
So I said no and got called "****'." or "****" and it hurt.....it hurt so badly
I was unwanted in partys and Aoers turned me away....I didn't even know why
So now i sit alone in my corner in Loren or Solo and end up getting Ksed by newbies
Thats my thanks for helping the newbies or buffing random plpl
A slap in the face....that I didn't deserve
QueenPixie
08-29-2008, 10:30 PM
There I was....accidentally changed to aco >.> and now I was stuck like this.
But then I grew to love helping plpl. Constantly walking all the way to Loren even though I was tracked there just to buff and heal some newbs.
I though one day...when I get to cleric they'll say "That was the aco that revived me when I died" or "That's a good aco". But then it stopped. EVERYONE soon wanted a buff or a heal or expected to be revived by me. But I wasen't something that could be demanded of. So I did one simple thing
NO!
I had had it....I didn't mind buffing newbies but when someone expects you to buff their entire party thats where I drew the line (cause they didn't invite me -.-)
So I said no and got called "*****." or "b*tch" and it hurt.....it hurt so badly
I was unwanted in partys and Aoers turned me away....I didn't even know why
So now i sit alone in my corner in Loren or Solo and end up getting Ksed by newbies
Thats my thanks for helping the newbies or buffing random plpl
A slap in the face....that I didn't deserve
Aww there *pats back* I know what you mean when you said you had a nice feeling helping others and then all of sudden they take advantage of you. I think those people crossed the line when they call you those things. But just hang in there because these things like this happen all the time. Maybe you need some time off from here and just come back when your feeling better. =)
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 12:00 AM
If i do that how am i suppose to make cleric? >.>
Anyways half the aoeing population already hates me and for some reason so do clerics I don't even know....go figure....wish u the best of luck ^^
shp4656
08-30-2008, 12:23 AM
I was unwanted in partys and Aoers turned me away....I didn't even know why
Why would they not want you?? Is your heal weak because you messed up your build??? Do you often forget to buff/heal? Or are you known to disconnect in the middle of aoe???
I think you are kinda exaggerating. Not everyone can possibly hate you O.o Even Alastor is loved by some people.. Maybe, if you try hard enough, you will find a party or aoer or whatever..
So.. good luck to you and I hope to see you change to cleric soon..
dj78x
08-30-2008, 01:39 AM
gota be nice to ppl, at the very least to the ones that can help u.
the ones that cant help u tho, sure telem to go away or w/e but u shouldnt if they can aoe u =D
but ya it does get annoying, however iv only not buffed ppl a very few times
thesleep
08-30-2008, 08:21 AM
well i believe you said you didnt like me randomly cuz i was making a pt lvl 50 and higher in loren and you said it was mean...
wmdonlooker
08-30-2008, 08:43 AM
heres the thing....a lot of people always expect a aco/cleric to buff them and a party.....i know its a massive waste of mp....but its generally best 2....simply because it avoids arguements.....but if u really don't wanna buff some one....just say: "i'm sorry but i really don't wanna buff....i get asked by every one and its highly iritating".....if they still insult u after that simply take a few screenies of the insults and send them to a cl or gm or something and they will hopefully get them to stop....other wise just avoid talking to them....just ignore them.....i play the other game outspark has fiesta and i literally get begged to buff people....i'll usaully will but if i don't want to all i'll say is "sorry...just chilling" or "sorry but i really don't wanna since i get whispered and begged by every one and its highly anoying"....remember if u don't wanna buff u don't have to.....simple has that!!!!
dj78x
08-30-2008, 08:51 AM
whats with the long explanation not buffing ppl is ez, i just completely ignore them O_O they always go away eventually, altho sometimes they follo me around the map for awhile XD
kazuya-str
08-30-2008, 09:10 AM
People start talking and then it catches on, "Oh, that person's a bad Acolyte, don't invite her or him" and stuff like that. And then it becomes hurtful. You can't DEMAND an Acolyte to to buff or heal you/your whole party if the Aco is outside your party. (That sentence doesn't look right...).
But it's simple. How can you ASK an Acolyte to buff you and swear at them afterwards. Your asking for permission for them to buff you. If the Aco say no, that's their decision. It's like asking someone for their Pencil and they say no and you start swearing at them .
Well uhh... cheer up even though I haven't lived the full life of an Acolyte. Just half of it.
People can get cruel but don't listen to them. You had every right to say no. I wouldn't dare expect an Acolyte to buff me but I would always thank them if they did.
It's really depressing. Here's a quote from a Fiesta guide that might qualify:
"Dealing with rude people
When rude players outside your party demand that you heal them or buff them, and are not polite, you do not have to heal or buff them. In fact, you should not do so. You may think you are helping them, but if you help them you are in fact reinforcing the incorrect belief that they can get what they want by being rude and demanding. Moreover, most players do not like rude people. Instead, it is recommended that you either ignore them, or explain to them that you will not heal or buff rude people. If they harass or stalk you, report them to the GM's (Game Masters) of your service provider and block them "
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 12:26 PM
People start talking and then it catches on, "Oh, that person's a bad Acolyte, don't invite her or him" and stuff like that. And then it becomes hurtful. You can't DEMAND an Acolyte to to buff or heal you/your whole party if the Aco is outside your party. (That sentence doesn't look right...).
But it's simple. How can you ASK an Acolyte to buff you and swear at them afterwards. Your asking for permission for them to buff you. If the Aco say no, that's their decision. It's like asking someone for their Pencil and they say no and you start swearing at them .
Well uhh... cheer up even though I haven't lived the full life of an Acolyte. Just half of it.
People can get cruel but don't listen to them. You had every right to say no. I wouldn't dare expect an Acolyte to buff me but I would always thank them if they did.
It's really depressing. Here's a quote from a Fiesta guide that might qualify:
AW~ You have inspired me to stop cussing at strangers stalking me waiting for a buff :D
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 12:27 PM
heres the thing....a lot of people always expect a aco/cleric to buff them and a party.....i know its a massive waste of mp....but its generally best 2....simply because it avoids arguements.....but if u really don't wanna buff some one....just say: "i'm sorry but i really don't wanna buff....i get asked by every one and its highly iritating".....if they still insult u after that simply take a few screenies of the insults and send them to a cl or gm or something and they will hopefully get them to stop....other wise just avoid talking to them....just ignore them.....i play the other game outspark has fiesta and i literally get begged to buff people....i'll usaully will but if i don't want to all i'll say is "sorry...just chilling" or "sorry but i really don't wanna since i get whispered and begged by every one and its highly anoying"....remember if u don't wanna buff u don't have to.....simple has that!!!!
That is where your wrong! I DO buff my party and heal them to...I am refearing to another persons party that HAS an aco but my buff is stronger so they ask me to buff there entire party instead >.>
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 12:29 PM
well i believe you said you didnt like me randomly cuz i was making a pt lvl 50 and higher in loren and you said it was mean...
LOL >< no it was actaully cause u killed me when I was trying to revive a low lvl aco in the pvp
and i didn't say I didn't like u i said i was busy with an aoe and couldn't help u
Lol :D I luv ya and ya know it
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 12:31 PM
gota be nice to ppl, at the very least to the ones that can help u.
the ones that cant help u tho, sure telem to go away or w/e but u shouldnt if they can aoe u =D
but ya it does get annoying, however iv only not buffed ppl a very few times
Don't u just hate it though when ur in eir or in an Aoe and some random newbie comes up and says "BUFF ME" with not so much as a PLZ >.>
I lose my temper at that....usally my controled method of this is saying "BACK OFF" but sometimes I lose my temper and am quite surprised I haven't gotten band for my cussing....I am sorry about it though I should try to control my temper more
captain_awesomeness
08-30-2008, 12:38 PM
My homegirl Compassion is having the same issue right now...
...So badly so, in fact, that she's thinking of going Disciple instead of sticking it out for Cleric. She doesn't even want to go Disciple, but it's gotten that bad for her...
Hang in there, girl; you're so close it's unreal... Good luck!
wmdonlooker
08-30-2008, 02:26 PM
That is where your wrong! I DO buff my party and heal them to...I am refearing to another persons party that HAS an aco but my buff is stronger so they ask me to buff there entire party instead >.>
eh at the time i was thinking in terms of u being outside a party....i should of stated that....oh well some thing for me to keep in mind "writes on notepad to remember to state what u r talking about and the situation"...any who try to enjoy ur self....thats what the game is about....i think:confused:
nickiweard
08-30-2008, 03:07 PM
it would be helpful though if other classes wouldnt ask for a buff/heal when you are in the middle of healing ur party/partner when they are killing monsters. How do you expect me to do that and keep my partner from dieing (happened to me today in rud).
At least wait for us to finish before asking and manners dont cost anything too.
tazsbigtoy
08-30-2008, 03:19 PM
Stick to your guns. If people ask politely buff them, but never reward the rude people, otherwise they won't learn. But make sure you are polite when you refuse. It's a little harder for them to call you a name when you say something like "I am sorry but my mp is needed by my party'" than it is it you say "back off." How big are these parties asking for buffs? Two or three people is one thing, but if a 6 to 8 man party is expecting an outside healer to buff them, that is just really rude.
Rorin_V
08-30-2008, 03:44 PM
What I don't understand is why someone wants a buff in the first place if they're not in my party... The buffs only last three minutes, and if this person expects me to buff them and my entire party every three minutes, they're going to be disappointed. If the buffs lasted longer than that, say half an hour or an hour, then I could see people asking for buffs from those outside their party.
If someone asks nicely, I will probably buff or heal them. I am also prone to handing out random buffs and heals, especially if that person helped my party take down an aggro that would have finished us off. For the record, I do not consider "buff plz" or "heal plz" to be asking politely. I prefer complete sentences, such as, "Could you buff me, please? I need to get off this map and I don't have any scrolls." And so on.
Exceptions to this are AoEers whose Aco has died and they need the buff to live. In that instance a simple "Bless" will suffice because there isn't time for manners when you're about to die. I should also note that this is an act of self-preservation, too, because if the AoEer in question dies, we all die. :eek:
A note or Reviving people. I always carry Insignias with me, usually 20+, so if you ask for a Revive politely, I'll do it. Be aware, though, that it takes 71MP to cast, so doing multiple revives requires potion pounding. Usually this isn't a problem, but in Sherwood on the Mighty Trek the other day, I ran into a crowd of angels. I was reviving as fast as I could, but there were some people that were getting rather rude that I hadn't gotten to them yet. Just be patient, let me revive and heal the person I've revived so they don't immediately die again, then pound some potions so I can get to you. OK? :)
WhiteMoonDragon
08-30-2008, 05:45 PM
I agree with most of the posts on this thread. Often times aco/clerics get treated like servants more then anything. When I first started out, I was exactly like you. I would buff most people as I passed by, heal people that were soloing, and watch over those that were fighting in areas that were a tad out of their league. I enjoyed it, don't get me wrong! But then people would run up to me in the middle of soloing a kill and demand buffs and heals. If I didn't do so right away, I got yelled at. I got sick of it and began just ignoring them. I got lucky though, I found a true friend and my knight is shining armor (litterally :p). I stuck by their sides and even now I rarely move far away from them.
I can't tell you what to do exactly about your reputation, or give much advice. But if it does become too much, just try staying in a comfort zone. Stay with a few friends and work with them. Just remember that all healers are on your side and ready to defend you. Players that rude and selfish need to be put in their place and we aren't affraid to come to your side!
~MiLou
h.blitzkreig
08-30-2008, 05:57 PM
i so feel for you try to stand ground whenever u say no to buffing then that shows that your not gullible or weak. And if they call u names try to reply with a smart comment without the cursing then that shows that your the bigger man or women in your case LOL:D
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 09:25 PM
Stick to your guns. If people ask politely buff them, but never reward the rude people, otherwise they won't learn. But make sure you are polite when you refuse. It's a little harder for them to call you a name when you say something like "I am sorry but my mp is needed by my party'" than it is it you say "back off." How big are these parties asking for buffs? Two or three people is one thing, but if a 6 to 8 man party is expecting an outside healer to buff them, that is just really rude.
^^ unfortunately for me its usaually anywhere from 4 to 8 players asking for a buff
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 09:34 PM
Aw~ And yes I will respond to ur replys :D
Oh but I got a great story
Today, I was duoing Loren with a cleric and this little newbie aco comes running to us asking to join the party.....this is in the middle of us killing an aggro btw >.>
so my partner is like no and he says "****kkkk You" and im like "***" and i got a screenie of him calling me a "B*tch" to....so then he goes and hits this scouts aggro and it kills him....(he hit it with a STAFF...wat happened to IQ newbies?) lol so anyways we later find out that they were in a party....So the guys like "Heal me" and we are like "ur dead" and hes all like "revive me then" and we said no. So hes all like do u know how powerful I am? and Im like "yea lol ur like wat lvl 16 or 17" and hes all "lvl24" and we started laughing. But then he gets all pissy that we ain't reviving him. So instead of cussing at him we grab another aggro....anyways some clerics are running by and im like "don't rev. him he Kses" and because for reasons unknown the cleric hates me she revs. him and now hes running around loren asking for parties. >.>
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 09:34 PM
And another thing....I hate soloing in Loren then having a newbie either KS my monster or run around me when Im trying to cast cause its distracting >.>
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 09:36 PM
And for the record if u like my posts plz add to my rep. :D id appreciate it and ill add more stories :D
poochyenarulez
08-30-2008, 10:30 PM
y do you hate newbies so much? and if someone asks for a buff while your soloing, just say "1 sec" and finish killing and then buff the person, its not that hard.
if some1 asks for a buff or heal, just do it, you became an acolyte to heal/buff when people need it, not just when you think some1 needs it.
diedwithoutasoul
08-30-2008, 11:05 PM
y do you hate newbies so much? and if someone asks for a buff while your soloing, just say "1 sec" and finish killing and then buff the person, its not that hard.
if some1 asks for a buff or heal, just do it, you became an acolyte to heal/buff when people need it, not just when you think some1 needs it.
Ull find most acos and clerics don't think like that T.T i happily buff and heal plpl but not when the yell at me if I don't do it right away or if the just say "BUFF NOW" its rude and they need some manners before I buff or heal them.
And I do not hate newbies because I have my own fan club of low lvl acos that I take to loren and let them leech or give them free stuff :D
I also usally take the long way to loren so i can revive, buff, or heal newbies
h.blitzkreig
08-31-2008, 07:23 AM
For the newbie problem: try to be nice to them We were all newbies at one point so lets it go if they KS your monster. For the buff problem: Im thinking that whenever your in the fields solo fight with Illusion Quake as much as possible and dont use your Bless and Fist Up too much for people to see so when neos and squires come along they will think that you dont hv any buffs. When your in a party just fight alot and dont watch ur party fight (that would make you look idle when your just sitting around, full of MP, so youll be forced to buff ) When your constantly fighting with your party you wont hv any MP left to buff anyone
diedwithoutasoul
08-31-2008, 03:44 PM
For the newbie problem: try to be nice to them We were all newbies at one point so lets it go if they KS your monster. For the buff problem: Im thinking that whenever your in the fields solo fight with Illusion Quake as much as possible and dont use your Bless and Fist Up too much for people to see so when neos and squires come along they will think that you dont hv any buffs. When your in a party just fight alot and dont watch ur party fight (that would make you look idle when your just sitting around, full of MP, so youll be forced to buff ) When your constantly fighting with your party you wont hv any MP left to buff anyone
>.> this was not good advice lol cause im never seen buffing anyone unless im buying pots or after i use med.
and for the record I have never leeched off anyone....although I can be seen idle sometimes.....
Rorin_V
08-31-2008, 11:51 PM
....anyways some clerics are running by and im like "don't rev. him he Kses" and because for reasons unknown the cleric hates me she revs. him
So......just because this Cleric revived this other Acolyte even after you recommended they not do it, this Cleric hates you? Not everyone who disagrees with you or does something you don't want them to do hates you. O.o
The lower leveled characters in Loren is a situation that will never go away, not when Oblique Forest, with level 20ish mobs, is right up against Loren. I'm sure most people who've played this game, at one point, wandered into Loren not knowing what was there, tried to attack something, and got killed in two hits. There will always be someone who will try to "help" you kill that Boar, or ask you for a party even if they're 30+ levels below your level. If this situation bothers you, start from Jot and work your way out to Inkwell.
Problem solved.
h.blitzkreig
09-01-2008, 07:33 AM
>.> this was not good advice lol cause im never seen buffing anyone unless im buying pots or after i use med.
and for the record I have never leeched off anyone....although I can be seen idle sometimes.....
Its a general advice to acolytes I've seen many times waiting around while the neos and squires fight and only come around to buff.
thunderdervish
09-01-2008, 10:20 AM
yeah i agree with most of these posts, i mean yeah we are a healer/buffer char but i didnt make my char to buff the world of SoS. i made it so i can hang out with friends and have fun. If some one demands i buff/heal them i say no. I have played healers on many games and its all the same.
So to all you Support chars out there i wanna say Congrats! its a wonder we havnt quit our chars for how much stuff we have to go through!
And BTW im pretty new (started 2 days ago and im lv32 atm) so does anyone have a good Aco Skill build i could use? i am randomly putting Int. and Wis. and i just thought i would ask since there seems to be many experianced Aco players responding.
wildswing
09-01-2008, 10:59 AM
Go to Jot, problem solved. Or wear some cash shop items just so people don't see you as an aco as easily. Respect is a two-way street, don't expect to be loved if you don't give the same treatment. And plus, you just can't expect everyone to love you. Don't be too friendly and burn yourself out. I've seen you around Rud a few times and you seem to be pretty nice.
diedwithoutasoul
09-01-2008, 11:54 AM
^^ i need another story -.- ill think of something later...lol
shiningkittenfur
09-01-2008, 06:18 PM
There I was....accidentally changed to aco >.> and now I was stuck like this.
But then I grew to love helping plpl. Constantly walking all the way to Loren even though I was tracked there just to buff and heal some newbs.
I though one day...when I get to cleric they'll say "That was the aco that revived me when I died" or "That's a good aco". But then it stopped. EVERYONE soon wanted a buff or a heal or expected to be revived by me. But I wasen't something that could be demanded of. So I did one simple thing
NO!
I had had it....I didn't mind buffing newbies but when someone expects you to buff their entire party thats where I drew the line (cause they didn't invite me -.-)
So I said no and got called "*****." or "b*tch" and it hurt.....it hurt so badly
I was unwanted in partys and Aoers turned me away....I didn't even know why
So now i sit alone in my corner in Loren or Solo and end up getting Ksed by newbies
Thats my thanks for helping the newbies or buffing random plpl
A slap in the face....that I didn't deserve
same thing happened to meh D:
i got ksed by a lvl 2x pt in loren,
first i told them this was a high lvl map, and that they should go bac but they didnt listen and kept following me, JUST TO KS
then i got called bad names when the monster attacked them >.<
diedwithoutasoul
09-01-2008, 08:16 PM
I laugh when I tell them not to hit A monster, especially my monster because i warn them not do it or risk dying and they do it anyway and it ends up killing them >.> lol ^^
kazuya-str
09-01-2008, 08:22 PM
Dx I must be lucky to start hunting west than east of the Bryn. Trisects my whole 2x and 3x life.
h.blitzkreig
09-02-2008, 06:50 AM
Go to Jot, problem solved. Or wear some cash shop items just so people don't see you as an aco as easily. Respect is a two-way street, don't expect to be loved if you don't give the same treatment. And plus, you just can't expect everyone to love you. Don't be too friendly and burn yourself out. I've seen you around Rud a few times and you seem to be pretty nice.
Your dress up in Spark Store Clothes is a very good idea. Its like also pretending to be like a lvl 18 when your really a lvl 30
diedwithoutasoul
09-02-2008, 09:25 PM
Go to Jot, problem solved. Or wear some cash shop items just so people don't see you as an aco as easily. Respect is a two-way street, don't expect to be loved if you don't give the same treatment. And plus, you just can't expect everyone to love you. Don't be too friendly and burn yourself out. I've seen you around Rud a few times and you seem to be pretty nice.
I go to jot. all the time >.> im not a weak aco im just not a strong as a squire for example...I am seen soloing Loren and other high up places because aoers are hard to fine at my lvl and in pvps im almost as good as the clerics just attacked more frequently.
shiningkittenfur
09-02-2008, 10:35 PM
I go to jot. all the time >.> im not a weak aco im just not a strong as a squire for example...I am seen soloing Loren and other high up places because aoers are hard to fine at my lvl and in pvps im almost as good as the clerics just attacked more frequently.
lol i remenber that xD
when i was an aco i was attacked so much in pvp Dx
after i changed.. well.. i sat in the middle of the feild and the only thing that bothered me was party invites xD
NeoQueenElyse
09-02-2008, 10:36 PM
I know your pain Sammie13. There have been times that people will just hunt me down and be like "Buff." No please, no thanks, nothing. I have died a couple of times trying to help people out and did they offer to help me? Of course not. Don't let it get you down though! You're already 6x so you're very close to cleric! I think you can make it! Good luck to you!
diedwithoutasoul
09-03-2008, 08:07 PM
I so close to cleric I just need like two more lvls and its driving me insane ><
gouten
09-04-2008, 11:44 AM
aww Sad story for the first one >< If u cant find a party to help u reach cleric i will be more then willing to help u reach cleric xD. I never ask someone to buff or heal me when i solo they just do it and i appreciate it and say thank you. You'll get bored of your aco if u solo Acos weren't made to solo...
Just Whisper me in game
IGN: bakuyaa
Lv 96+ Archer
diedwithoutasoul
09-04-2008, 08:09 PM
well......im gonna be cleric real soon but i still need to get my Aoe :D hello new Aoer O_O im so pming u lol ><
tarazha
06-20-2009, 08:31 AM
I like being an aco too (i hate walking tho lol). Usually I've heal and buff out of kindness if i see someone having a hard time fighting the monsters, but that's only if i happen to be passing by and they're one or two of em. Or if i'm just chillin on a map and some says "buff me plz" I'll do it. I'm just nice that way. i can't say I ever had a rude person call me names b/c i wouldn't buff them (i have turned some ppl down tho) but i have had rude-ish pt members. they demand u rebuff after the timer om em is half gone, try to tell u how to do yur own aco thing, an threaten to boot u out of pt if u don't do what they say how they say...or if u die too often.this is a very rare person to find cos most ppl are nice on sos. if any healer ever encounters a rude person like this or any sort it's ok to say no ans walk away. Leave pt if u feel taken advantage of. don't be all "but i need the exp to lvl" either. it's easy for acos to solo and / find parties else where. I hope ppl start to realize it's never good to be rude to us acos =P
Mikitan
06-20-2009, 08:42 AM
:S Please don't bump (necropost) on old topics. Thread closed.