God Gear Obsession! o.o

[catry]

Is it just me, or has everyone become overly obsessed with having the best gear ever O.o;;

Way back month ago, people didn't care about AP...+2 was considered awesome, and any form of AP would sell quickly and cheaply. Even when the xen supply increased only those truly dedicated players would try to get god gears (my favorite was Nixxie and Shak spending 50+ xens or so getting awesome gear xD). Players got to their 50s, 60s, even 70s without ever touching a 6AP gear.

Nowadays everyone seems to want 6ap gears, even as early as their 4x's. 4ap gear hardly ever sells anymore and I just NPC 2ap gear. Back months ago I could seel plain +1s overnight, now they just get NPC'd. Everyone seems to be determined to mob at their level, even though the lack of an AoE move means they end up spending more time levelling instead of less.

So my question is: What do you think spurred this God Defense obsession? O.o

[Celtic_Princess]

everyone wants to be the best and have the best.

its bragging rights.

[Aclaus]

I think once some higher lvls started using only 6 ap gears it became a habit. Such as when they created a new character, they still had the mind set of needing 6 ap gears to lvl quickly. From there on, ppl saw the differences between 6 ap gears and normal gears at the low lvls (even though it doesnt matter as much at the low lvls). Thats my theory.

[ChaosAD]

Lol i was talking about this with AnimePimp and Skid row while grinding at Sherwood. Back in the old days when i saw Strider's +4 gear (with no ap...ap didnt exist yet ROFL) it blew my freakin mind xD I remember the day i got a +2 rose dagger at mythril mine and i was like OMFG NO WAY!!! XDDD Ahh the good old days...

As for your question kit, i think it's because the high lvl people depend on defense so badly so they can AoE to level even faster then partying. Lower lvl players that dont even have an AoE move yet probably think that having as much defense as possible will help them reach 2nd class faster and easier.

While that is true, i think it's gone way too far. I mean what is the purpose of gathering an entire map when you dont have an AoE attack? You're gonna have to kill them 1 by 1 but that will take forever and while you're doing it, dozens of 1's are draining your health, which in turn drain your hp pots or the Acolyte's mp pots.

[monday0829]

So my question is: What do you think spurred this God Defense obsession? O.o
With the godly good gears players can lower mobs attacks to 0-2.
This is the game design glitch allowing such amount of tanking (of
course, certain additional protections is needed for maps where
the monsters will flee from you.) It is the reason for the unhealthy
trends of solo AOEing.

[ARNOTA]

i agree with Xanthie, and would like to point out what kit said about them mobing at low lvls. i have tried to train some of my alts and i see ppl mobing low lvl maps and its kind of annoying when they take the mobs and it takes them forever to kill bc they don't got an aoe move. Especially when i am trying to find FW sense i don't want to pay the overprice it is at now. I saw some ppl just go and start killing there mobs that were running behind them then the person gathering just yells at them and says they are ksing, honestly i don't think this is form of ks bc if you don't have aoe move you should not be gathering in the first place!

As for kits question i think it has a lot to do with ppl wanting to lvl quickly. no one wants to be looked at as a noob. even if they are high lvl on alt. But i would love to point out fact that you can lvl really really fast and be dirt poor when you get like warrior or you can take you time and have moderate amount of money. Sometimes lvling fast is not the best thing. As for me on my archer some have told me i have "God Gear" but i just try to get good gear bc when i am soloing if i get hit to much i die and archers don't have that high of hp i think its 2nd lowest in game for classes. So the less damage i take the better.

[catry]

While that is true, i think it's gone way too far. I mean what is the purpose of gathering an entire map when you dont have an AoE attack? You're gonna have to kill them 1 by 1 but that will take forever and while you're doing it, dozens of 1's are draining your health, which in turn drain your hp pots or the Acolyte's mp pots.

Yeah lol level mobbing cracks me xD I always watch them walking around and point out "You do know that takes longer than killing them 1 by 1, right?" And when they don't believe me I go and kill about twice as many mobs as they can in the time it takes them to gather one mob xD

There should be like, a ban on level 3x's having God Gears >.>;;

[Zeltar]

yeah, i remember with all +1/0ap gear, and also being excited when i heard that +2 existed in the mines. enchanting is pointless IMO before being able to AOE. now it seems like everyones standards have increased, many people are obsesed +4/6ap early on in the low lvls, thinking it is standard. however nowadays there is a lot more ap on themarket, and now everyones standards have gone up, 4ap doesn't even sell any more.

[ggBuRNe]

Is it just me, or has everyone become overly obsessed with having the best gear ever O.o;;

Way back month ago, people didn't care about AP...+2 was considered awesome, and any form of AP would sell quickly and cheaply. Even when the xen supply increased only those truly dedicated players would try to get god gears (my favorite was Nixxie and Shak spending 50+ xens or so getting awesome gear xD). Players got to their 50s, 60s, even 70s without ever touching a 6AP gear.

Nowadays everyone seems to want 6ap gears, even as early as their 4x's. 4ap gear hardly ever sells anymore and I just NPC 2ap gear. Back months ago I could seel plain +1s overnight, now they just get NPC'd. Everyone seems to be determined to mob at their level, even though the lack of an AoE move means they end up spending more time levelling instead of less.

So my question is: What do you think spurred this God Defense obsession? O.o

As for myself, I just love the low damage taken from mobs and in PvP.. The lower it goes, the obsess i become.. I want more and more defense and I am obsess with it..

The obsession started at 8X which I had 70+ xens.. I started to enhance my gears and it was rare for Mage to enhance their armor, shoe, helm and glove.. The result was great and I was surprised that I managed to lower the damage from Dipublilc, Majitton and Aspa (back then they didn't hit hard) down to less 20 with magic shield and their damages went down to 1 damage and misses when I made my shoes and gloves to +5 6ap.. During 8X, I started to win SS and events to get all +6 6ap and +7 6ap for my gears and weapon.. During that period, I bought xens almost everyday because it was 350k and I played with xens on my alt as well.. I dominated low level PvP with my neo and it was great to have God Defense..

Few days ago, ParaDoom gave me GM Defense Buff with +30 defense.. With Bless and Magic Shield, the pich mogul hit me with one damage and misses and it was awesome.. I spent the one hour aoeing Phildevilt although not a big one..

I wish to have defense like a Warrior and hitting as hard as Wizard.. Hehehe :p;):D

[Orangeman21]

Well back when I was a squire and early level knight my motivation was cause I didn't have sc so I needed good gears to level.(lol would of had enough defense to AoE loren with cape as squire) >.>

Now its that I want defense so I can still level effectively without dieing in Taq. All of my stuff has been self enhanced to +5 or +6 and I am very proud of my gears.

[justin_2006]

i miss thinking low number aps and +s were the shiznit lol
nowadays if its even +2/4ap no one wants it :/
buuuut oh well ><><
what can ya do???

[catry]

Few days ago, ParaDoom gave me GM Defense Buff with +30 defense.. With Bless and Magic Shield, the pich mogul hit me with one damage and misses and it was awesome.. I spent the one hour aoeing Phildevilt although not a big one..

I wish to have defense like a Warrior and hitting as hard as Wizard.. Hehehe :p;):D


Well back when I was a squire and early level knight my motivation was cause I didn't have sc so I needed good gears to level.(lol would of had enough defense to AoE loren with cape as squire) >.>

Now its that I want defense so I can still level effectively without dieing in Taq. All of my stuff has been self enhanced to +5 or +6 and I am very proud of my gears.

Well, at your levels I think it's expected. xD I guess the main issue is with players 5x and below, who don't even have AoE moves yet and really should be spending more time partying instead of making life harder on themselves and mobbing...

[captain_awesomeness]

The same thing that always spurs such trends: the push for more self-improvement over less time, as the endless human pursuit of self-actualization dictates....This will, of course, as human nature dictates, manifest itself in a gaming community just as much as it will anywhere else that the concept of self-improvement is involved.

Really, though, the only 4x players that should even think about touching 6AP gears should be those Apprentices getting into their Tree gloves and shoes, and those Acos getting into their Water gloves and shoes...which typically are equippable a breath shy of a dead-even 50th level anyway (and even then only if they have the money to burn for them). This is just my personal opinion, though, and I only feel this way because most characters really aren't in their first through fourth sets of gear for long enough to really justify the kind of money they typically need to shell out for 6AP gears at that level. Neophytes, Disciples, and Squires, who all have a more plausible way of defending themselves against physical attack, can all wait until 66 (Squires that like to semi-AOE with Reflection at 51+ can feel free to interpret this more loosely) before going after "god gear."

Of course, after the mention of AOE, this changes things: better gears make tougher maps AOEable earlier, so naturally, those who are financially well-off are going to want to get the best gear they can as soon as they can....which may well be the answer to your question, as there are now more AOEers than ever before (and there will be more coming).

You're right, though; no shortage of players have gotten clear into their 60s and 70s without a single AP gear. I mentioned Apprentices as one of the classes that could look into it earlier without even stopping to think that a master kiter that never gets touched has no need for a decent DEF score. (Since AOEing is very difficult for Mages due to their sad DEF scores and soloing costs a ton of MP for them, they have a choice: Buy tons of God Gear, or go solo on a tough map. This does, of course, require a hell of a staff.)

Long story short: it is what it is. Keep in mind, though, that your basic 6AP gear is ideal to keep and Xen to the gills for future pwn4g3.

Just my two cents. Have a great day!

[Lahar]

One can say that the essences of the dif classes got lost somewhere in between the ap gears and the Aoe madness that fell on the community after a few ppl started to find out how beneficial Aoeing was

But AoEing was meant to be something to be done in small numbers and i still find it annoying that ppl are able to take a whole map because they get hit 1 and misses

undoubtedly this led to the need fort he god class gears and a rising in prices and in noobs AoEing in every single map they could find

and as this wasnt bad enough the AoE got out of control when it became a way to hog maps and literally disrespect other players by telling them to get out of the maps and such

I have been wondering for a long time what would happen if the ap gears suddenly just disappeared from the game

how many ppl would just be completely lost with out them and how many more would quit because they have forgotten how to handle themselves with lower def or because they can no longer AoE the hardest maps cause now they get hit for over 100

after much tough i think it would be nice to see the ap gears gone and instead change them for extra stats that you get for enhancing the gears

ppl want the god gears for braging rights since they want to be acknowledged but it has gone a bit overboard now but one can only go with it and hope things will calm down and ppl will stop wanting to have 200 def at lvl 30

[justin_2006]

hmmmmm
my opinion on lower lvls having gears expected to be only found with higher lvls, well i dont think they should be forced or shunned for using them and getting a breezy start in the game... im sure if u were low lvl and u got some u DEFF. wouldnt complain....
but i do hate those who get by soooo easily[say they have a very high lvl friend or something] and then when they reach that "top-notch" lvl they brag and crap and put others down[being egotistical], THAT i hate with a passion :X

--edit--
and i dont approve in the whole aoeing before u even have an aoe skill, im not rude to those who do it but it just annoys me to see that and then when they run around saying "stop ksing my mob"[thats a whole other arguement there though]...

[monday0829]

I have been wondering for a long time what would happen if the ap gears suddenly just disappeared from the game
I will love to see this. XD

But since people will rant nonsense about this >_<

[justin_2006]

I will love to see this. XD

But since people will rant nonsense about this >_<

i wouldnt really blame them for ranting if that happened >.>

but yeah i guess i would love to see that happen too lol
then we could AALLLL feel like noobies :>

i would also love to see EVERYONE'S lvl start over! hahahaha

[tankofinsanity]

Well there are like 200X more players now (im one of them)
So that means more 4ap and 6ap in market, since people sell the gear after they are done

that means 2ap and no ap will be less desirable in comparison

The logic is in the old days cave man eat bone marrows just to stay alive
But nowadays u get fancy food for not much extra cost
so why stick with the bone marrow?

[justin_2006]

The logic is in the old days cave man eat bone marrows just to stay alive
But nowadays u get fancy food for not much extra cost
so why stick with the bone marrow?

lmao
i love that analogy

but yeah
i miss when ap gears were soooo desirable[like 2ap and stuff]

:/
well i miss alot of things
especially being a noob :/

[Julia1]

sad to say.... but maybe 6ap is just too comon drop, people drop several of them in the 14 levels between equip change. meaning they stockpile onto the economy. maybe if the 6ap dropped less friequently it'd be something more special than standard gear.

[TRXSTA]

But AoEing was meant to be something to be done in small numbers
Says who? You?


I have been wondering for a long time what would happen if the ap gears suddenly just disappeared from the game

how many ppl would just be completely lost with out them and how many more would quit because they have forgotten how to handle themselves with lower def or because they can no longer AoE the hardest maps cause now they get hit for over 100
That... makes no sense. They'd just move back maps or use more pots.

[justin_2006]

sad to say.... but maybe 6ap is just too comon drop, people drop several of them in the 14 levels between equip change. meaning they stockpile onto the economy. maybe if the 6ap dropped less friequently it'd be something more special than standard gear.

O.o
u must have good luck
ive only gotten about 5 or so 6aps in my entire life[game life lol]

[Yisa4ever]

My input on this...

I'm a person who loves 6ap gears. It goes way back in OB when I started playing. I've always liked having the best gear out there, even at lower lvl. I won't use a +1 4ap gear unless I really have to.

But I don't go around hogging mobs as well. I find that trend irritating and annoying and it takes the fun out of lvling when you're on a map and you see someone hogging all the enemy and they can't even aoe, just kill them one by one.

For me, it gets me to another lvl faster because I can go into more harder maps with a stronger attack and a higher defense. Without boosts, it takes many many days to lvl. With my good gears I can shorten that lvling time :)

And as long as I can afford those 6ap, then I will continue to buy them no matter what my lvl.

Though like I usually tell people who are just starting out, don't invest in 6ap gears at lower lvl unless you can afford it. As well as xens into xenning them. If you want to invest, just invest in the weapon, that's all you'll need till you hit the 60+

And most people who have godly gears at lower lvl, my opinion, are alts who have a higher lvl playing character =P

[justin_2006]

But I don't go around hogging mobs as well. I find that trend irritating and annoying and it takes the fun out of lvling when you're on a map and you see someone hogging all the enemy and they can't even aoe, just kill them one by one.

For me, it gets me to another lvl faster because I can go into more harder maps with a stronger attack and a higher defense. Without boosts, it takes many many days to lvl. With my good gears I can shorten that lvling time :)

And as long as I can afford those 6ap, then I will continue to buy them no matter what my lvl.

Though like I usually tell people who are just starting out, don't invest in 6ap gears at lower lvl unless you can afford it. As well as xens into xenning them. If you want to invest, just invest in the weapon, that's all you'll need till you hit the 60+

And most people who have godly gears at lower lvl, my opinion, are alts who have a higher lvl playing character =P


agreed!
:)

[Yisa4ever]

agreed!
:)

:)

and also, I forgot to add, I don't think it's still useless, the 4ap gears.

I still manage to sell mine :) Just keep vending them and you'll get someone who wants them, or shout out. There are always players who are searching for them.... or they might not even have an idea what AP is so they just buy the regular gears. ^^

[justin_2006]

:)

and also, I forgot to add, I don't think it's still useless, the 4ap gears.



same
i would use them instead though...
some ppl will be like "well i can get better" and then sit and sell forever and then when they do sell them they go around forever trying to find the better gear :X

but anywho
i would use +3[and higher]/4ap[and higher]
those gears satisfy me enough :>

[monday0829]

Did I say that ap gears is a mistake ?

No ... I did say that removing ap's from the gears will help XD

[thrakx]

sad to say.... but maybe 6ap is just too comon drop, people drop several of them in the 14 levels between equip change. meaning they stockpile onto the economy. maybe if the 6ap dropped less friequently it'd be something more special than standard gear.

what are you talking about 6ap being a common drop? I rarely if EVER find anything 6ap. You know what I can even count on 1 hand the number of 6ap drops ive EVER found.
Dumb argument.

And once again some one let monday in here spouting a bunch of gibberish.

[CyberPhoenixSlayer]

I have a Knight with gears only +1/ap4-6 (depend of the gear) and i like thoses, i don't even Xen them yet to aoe certain maps.

What i have to say is if you are lucky to find a rare ap4 or ap6 drop for your class and you need it soon, you can be glad and lucky to have obtain it by a enemy drop item than buy it from a store.

For uber gears, i have to say Xenning low level gears is kinda useless and should have wait to have their aoe skills to overpower their gears with Xen Stones.

Will not post my character stats yet, will do a sig soon.

[kazuya-str]

I remember thinking +2 was the coolest =\
Seeing people with +4/6AP gears seems normal to me now which I guess got me into thinking AoE was completely normal in early maps. I actually saw a Xenian AoE in the Trisects taking 1-2 damage and I thought it was normal.
But after seeing this topic, it makes more sense to me so I won't buy anymore AP gears.. (Well, I go like my +1 shoes because of Rapid Step =\) until I reach level 66. And because of that, I refuse to sell the Xens I told people I would sell to hopefully reduce Xen Prices. x_x

I'm probably missing the point though.
But seriously, don't Xen your gears at an early level =\ It's not worth it.

...Said the low leveled long playing Neo who's never AoEd in his life. =\

[LennethValkyrie]

I don't care for AP gears, unless they're cheap = /

Although they are very useful to me, because I happen to die ALOT.

[catry]

same
i would use them instead though...
some ppl will be like "well i can get better" and then sit and sell forever and then when they do sell them they go around forever trying to find the better gear :X

but anywho
i would use +3[and higher]/4ap[and higher]
those gears satisfy me enough :>

Yeah, I've always been cool with 4ap, and I save on xens by not xenning my weapons :3
The annoying thing now is having to NPC 2 and 4ap gears cuz noone wants them DX It's like, I finally got a rare drop, now I have no choice but to NPC it? T.T;;

EDIT: Actually that gave my spaztastic mind a completely new thought O.o
Xens and AP gear are supposed to be a rare COMMODITY - something that only the luckiest, or richest, or most careful/prudent should have. Yet armor of +4 and greater is being treated as a necessity by people of all levels, and this should not be happening! :O Is it that too many people are caring about uber leveling and their appearance to everyone else, and less about just having fun and actually enjoying this game as it is? :X

[thrakx]

Yeah, I've always been cool with 4ap, and I save on xens by not xenning my weapons :3
The annoying thing now is having to NPC 2 and 4ap gears cuz noone wants them DX It's like, I finally got a rare drop, now I have no choice but to NPC it? T.T;;

EDIT: Actually that gave my spaztastic mind a completely new thought O.o
Xens and AP gear are supposed to be a rare COMMODITY - something that only the luckiest, or richest, or most careful/prudent should have. Yet armor of +4 and greater is being treated as a necessity by people of all levels, and this should not be happening! :O Is it that too many people are caring about uber leveling and their appearance to everyone else, and less about just having fun and actually enjoying this game as it is? :X

amen sister. I guess what we can do, what i been doing even though its made me sorta poor, is to save ALL the 4ap and up gears I find in my storage.
regardless of lvl and of class, i just save em up now that way they're there forever. Cause who knows whats going to happen to drop rates in the future. Its like when butter was worthless then the pet quest came along right as most of us sold out 80+ butters at like 2K each....

[xNinja503]

well u gotta consider that if a noob picks up a xen n turn around n sell it for 1.4mil+ he has enuff money to get 6ap instead of 2ap or 4p. n sie they see every higher lvl char wanting 6ap he must hve 6ap too.. monkey see monkey do >_> cause when i started out xen was like 300-400k n selling a xen doesn't cover a 1mil 6ap gear.. but now 1 xen n your tuff s*&t..... but after wearing so much 6ap gear gotta have my 6ap gear XD

[justin_2006]

lol
i never worried about good gear until like lvl66+

and yeah @catry, too many ppl worry about being the highest lvl and stuff... buuuuuut what can ya do?? i never worried about that stuff until i really got into lvling my squire lol, then around lvl40+ish i wanted to be at a super high lvl :X but now i could care less... i just want ppl to talk to and to have a bit of fun training a little bit :]

[wildswing]

All games start out with experimentation. Then as the game grows, it's just all become about damages, or defense in this case. Pretty soon everyone will be "i haf beter eqips thn u noob'. And if yours is better, "u haf no lifes noob i dun play all day lik u".

[Darcaen]

what are you talking about 6ap being a common drop? I rarely if EVER find anything 6ap. You know what I can even count on 1 hand the number of 6ap drops ive EVER found.
Dumb argument.
There is a world's difference between "too common" and "common", and the poster in question did not mean the latter. She considered the amount of levels needed to change gears in relation to the drop rate of 6AP gears. It was a valid argument.

Keep in mind: these 6AP gears do not disappear from the market unless someone quits or accidentally deletes something. The drop rate of 6AP gears is worth looking into, and must be compared with the influx of new players.

[justin_2006]

Pretty soon everyone will be "i haf beter eqips thn u noob'. And if yours is better, "u haf no lifes noob i dun play all day lik u".

if everyone started doing that i would quit >..>

[Artanis.]

Yeah well lets say a normal gear has 23 defense
23 + 6ap = 29
23 + Xenned out 4times +6ap = 36
23 and 36 is a big difference but at what Price?

Xens costing way over 1 mil each
And a 6ap gear costing around 1mil less for low lvl but higher when high lvl
the Calcullation of a 6ap gear being 1mil and each time its xenned out it ads 1 mil
would mean that a +4/+6ap gear would atleast be atleast 5mil
Oo thats just freaking expensive for me

[vedallen]

Meh, like others said before... There are more AP gears circulating now with more higher levels, aoeing, vendoring, replacing, enhancing, etc... etc... I'm certain that APs are 'relatively' more 'common' than when I joined at the beginning of summer. That being said :| I think more people became aware of this, and with extra cash to spend, why not get better gear. Though the difference in pricing between 4ap and 6ap is more than a gap or two.

[Julia1]

what are you talking about 6ap being a common drop? I rarely if EVER find anything 6ap. You know what I can even count on 1 hand the number of 6ap drops ive EVER found.
Dumb argument.



There is a world's difference between "too common" and "common", and the poster in question did not mean the latter. She considered the amount of levels needed to change gears in relation to the drop rate of 6AP gears. It was a valid argument.

Keep in mind: these 6AP gears do not disappear from the market unless someone quits or accidentally deletes something. The drop rate of 6AP gears is worth looking into, and must be compared with the influx of new players.

Thank you for understanding my point.
I think I will slightly expand on it:
Items circulate on the market, as people level to the next set they sell their equipment to the next person. So all that is needed is for the influx of 6ap drops to equal 5 new items per new person that joins the game
In the later lvls people need to AOE and kill 10,000 mobs per lvl, so that is 140,000 mobs per equipment change. This is enough mobs to ensure 5-6 items that are 6ap. Naturally many will be for other classes, but then they can be traded with others for kron/items that are your class. This combined with the hand-me-down means that generally there is enough 6ap for everyone in the game.

In reality mid-level people that are good at economics can buy a 2nd hand 6ap item from a higher lvl, use it for a while, and then sell it on for similar price afterwards

This makes 6ap standard, and 4ap useless as there is no longer a market (except people that are too poor/stingy to invest in a 6ap). This is why there is absolutely no market for 4ap items anymore, and so 4ap needs to be sold to the NPC.

However if the drop-rate for 6ap was slightly lower then 6ap would be something considered special instead of standard. The price difference between 6ap and 4ap should be at leasy the price of 2 xen. So if 6ap was increadibly rare then people might use 4ap if it is more than the price of 2 xen cheaper. Eh getting the same def out of a +2/4ap as a +1/6ap.

Now in reality we know that a +1/6ap is worth more than a +2/4ap as the level requirement increases when enhancing, and also a 4ap becomes harder as it can only wasily be taken to +4/4ap, while would become much harder to make a +5/4ap with comparable def to a +4/6ap.


O.o
u must have good luck
ive only gotten about 5 or so 6aps in my entire life[game life lol]

Actually in theory if there was perfect circulation, nobody accidently NPC a single AP gear, and nobody deleates/stores in hotel. Then if every person would only find 5 items that are 6ap(and then also a 3ap shield) in their entire playing life, and circulated it perfectly then there would be 5 times as many 6ap as players, and hence enough for everyone to have a 6ap, 4ap wouldent be used any more. Of course it’s not all divided equally according to lvl/class. I know that for every single lvl 80+ magician there is probably at least 10 items that are +1/6ap on the market for them. For knights it still may take more effort, but over time more and more items will circulate on the market as more people AOE, till there is enough that everyone can easily finr a 6ap. Now in reality many people(especially high lvl AOErs) have found much more 6ap items, and it will continue till the market is flooded.

[Darcaen]

I still see a market for 4APs. We could assume over an extended period of time, a good portion of 6APs would gain some +s. This means those who buy 6AP gears with high +s might have to wait a bit longer than usual, depending on what they are currently using. 4APs could be the interim gears. I have personally bought numerous 4APs cheaply to fill in the gaps.

2APs though ... very tempted to just NPC the lot to save the hassle. :D

[fjskl2442]

I still see a market for 4APs. I have personally bought numerous 4APs cheaply to fill in the gaps.

2APs though ... very tempted to just NPC the lot to save the hassle. :D

Lol, u still see a market in 4aps. Do you still see a good market for mortgages in the USA right now? If so, wanna buy some subprime securities as well? just kiddingggg


Btw, nice analysis of market julia1.

[Darcaen]

Lol, u still see a market in 4aps. Do you still see a good market for mortgages in the USA right now? If so, wanna buy some subprime securities as well? just kiddingggg


Btw, nice analysis of market julia1.
Er, if you are going to quote me, quote me completely or partially, but please do not edit what I wrote. That's just rude.

And what's your point? No, really.

[Artanis.]

no one wants 15 inch flatscreens anymore everyone wants the 66 inch FULL HD dvd player gaming console Home cinima set included crap...

Kinda same with the 6ap gears. When they have the money why go for a 4ap gear if they can go for 6ap gear. Tho shocking that a 4ap gear can be sold from around 100k till 600k and just for that 2+ defense points they are willing to pay wel above 1 mil. Put having all gear to 6ap instead of 4ap is like a permanant Buff...

[Nights_Fang]

Every time I'm tempted to finish all my kron in storage and buy +/ap gears for my appy, I remind myself that A) This is just a game, B) I'm probably better of saving my kron for pot spams, C) I've not reached that level of desperation yet and lastly D) Someone else already has. Logically they'd need it more.

[justin_2006]

Actually in theory if there was perfect circulation, nobody accidently NPC a single AP gear, and nobody deleates/stores in hotel. Then if every person would only find 5 items that are 6ap(and then also a 3ap shield) in their entire playing life, and circulated it perfectly then there would be 5 times as many 6ap as players, and hence enough for everyone to have a 6ap, 4ap wouldent be used any more. Of course it’s not all divided equally according to lvl/class. I know that for every single lvl 80+ magician there is probably at least 10 items that are +1/6ap on the market for them. For knights it still may take more effort, but over time more and more items will circulate on the market as more people AOE, till there is enough that everyone can easily finr a 6ap. Now in reality many people(especially high lvl AOErs) have found much more 6ap items, and it will continue till the market is flooded.

*sigh*
u lost me lol :/

so, finding about 5 gears[6ap] would be a good thing from what u said?[thats not an argumentative question, just trying to understand lol]

[Julia1]

*sigh*
u lost me lol :/

so, finding about 5 gears[6ap] would be a good thing from what u said?[thats not an argumentative question, just trying to understand lol]

yes, 5 items that are 6ap is a lot.
My appologies if i did not explain it clearly, I was just thinking that if everyone finds 5+ items, and trades their 6ap gear to those that needs needs it, then there would be enough 6ap gears in the land of xen for everyone to have 5 items that are 6ap(yes i know some classes/levels might be more rare, but as a rough rule of thumb there is a lot of 6ap floating around).

[sonic349]

nerds =D ....

[justin_2006]

yes, 5 items that are 6ap is a lot.
My appologies if i did not explain it clearly, I was just thinking that if everyone finds 5+ items, and trades their 6ap gear to those that needs needs it, then there would be enough 6ap gears in the land of xen for everyone to have 5 items that are 6ap(yes i know some classes/levels might be more rare, but as a rough rule of thumb there is a lot of 6ap floating around).

oh, gotcha! :D
but i just wish that 6ap gears didnt cost sooo much more than 3 or 4ap :X
i mean does the xen fail rate increase dramatically or something at 6ap???


nerds =D ....

lol
all day baby!!! xDD