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cybergenesis
09-04-2008, 01:56 PM
There's a reason i have a slave drive for my games...is there a reason the installer doesn't understand the term "relative pathing"?

The exe is on my slave, magically the .msi was decompressed onto my C drive. Is there a way to fix this?

Additional question: Will the space taken up by the install on the C drive be freed when the install is finished?

cybergenesis
09-04-2008, 02:46 PM
Ok i made space so i could finish the extraction and decompression...Someone want to explain what the 1700megs of space needed on C is for when i told it to install into D?

cybergenesis
09-04-2008, 03:38 PM
So i made room for that 1700megs of C-drive install...just so that the game could yell at me (obviously because THIS aspect was relatively pathed) because it couldn't find the launcher.

Moved the launcher into the same folder (on my D drive) and magically it found the game opens fine.

If you're going to allow people to direct the 'main game files' install to a different directory, can you maybe not hard code the launcher to be looked for in the same location as the main game files when you forced it to be installed into a drive that may NOT have been the same as the main files?

Player of the Month question: "Which GM would you like to PvP and defeat?" My answer: Your programming staff...or whoever is forcing them to do stupid things!

GM_Pilkysico
09-04-2008, 04:34 PM
You should leave them in the default path. If you don't, you'll have problems in the future when you try and patch the game.

blackjoker
09-04-2008, 05:11 PM
1st , my C: is not for games nor sufficient space for them.
2nd, your programming staff should check the game folder before installation, otherwise, they will have problems in the future when they try and patch the game.

yes it needs 1700M for extraction, but there is a silly mistake that the installer check the drive space required after the extraction.

cybergenesis
09-04-2008, 11:44 PM
No i shouldn't HAVE to leave it in the default path. In this day and age it's retarded to force path an install...and if they didn't want us to *gasp* they shouldn't give us the ability to change an install path

EDIT: the 1700 needed to install onto the C drive is only for the launcher...simply copying the launcher into the same folder that you installed into fixes the issue

EDIT2: It might surprise you Silky, but there are people (the more computer literate and NOT lazy) that either don't even HAVE a C drive or if they do it's a very tiny partition, large enough for an OS install plus buffer space for updates.

Besides, force-pathing an install is just horrible commercial software design...

GM_Pilkysico
09-05-2008, 12:30 AM
I never said you couldn't change the install path.

I said you will have MAY have problems PATCHING your game if you do.

If you do not have enough disk space on your C: drive, I can't help you there. It is up to you how to manage your computer.

Each time you want to update your game, you'll require a manual patch. You can skip the automatic updates because it MAY NOT work properly.

zero_x_x_
09-05-2008, 01:55 AM
Can you guys please add a line to specify which directory the program is decompressed into? This would solve the C: drive space issues. Thanks.

blackjoker
09-05-2008, 02:00 AM
The installer is terrible that
it extracts files in a temp folder on C:, 870M
The setup file generates a temporary .msi file on C: , 870M again.
It runs the .msi file, installation now start.
I changed the installation path.
bla bla bla....it required 1700M free space on C: anyway.
I looked at the diskspace during installation and found that no more 1700M were needed.

The launcher installed on C: anyway so you must copy them to the right place before you start the game.

It seems that the programmer never consider player installing the game other than the default directory.

And why we keep our system driver small is becuase the OS can look up files more efficient.

anyhow, dont install games on system driver is a common sense I think.

CSR_Joker
09-05-2008, 02:15 AM
Thank you all for the feedback regarding the installer decompression issues. I am taking your comments to the engineering team and pointing out the disk space and path requirements.

I am not sure if this will be addressed now or in future patches which may be a moot point since future patches are much smaller than 870 MB but it's a good point to look at this issue and try to avoid it in the future.

blackjoker
09-05-2008, 02:23 AM
We should not do so many writing and deleting on C: basically.
Like MS Office, it places the update files on other driver with plenty of space.

dark.unit
09-05-2008, 02:35 AM
yeah...no enough space for c drive...now i have to move stuff..damn..

cybergenesis
09-05-2008, 03:11 AM
I had to move gigs of music( i wanted to do it a long time ago, this just gave me an excuse to stop being lazy)

My point Silky was that the way you said it seemed more "Install it on your C drive like a good boy and you won't have to complain" and you didn't say you can't change the path, the PATCH WAS HARD-CODED so i litterally COULDN'T change the install path. The other comments were directed more to the engineering team than you, lots of people i know partition their drives and rename drives when they do OS installs. While we're a vicious minority of the customers of Outspark, it's a massive problem for us.

My major issue was that the installer let you move 1 half of the install and not the OTHER. I understand these patches were rushed to get them out the door and to us ASAP, but I think i'd rather have had to wait anouther hour for a more friendly installer than what we were given

Mongster
09-05-2008, 04:13 AM
hi i gt this problem too, i dun have enuff space on C: but when installing it just keep forcing the files there even when i uninstalled fiesta, i tried to change the installation to be done in D: but to no avail....
anyone can help out pls , cos my c: is almost full mostly windows file i gt nothing to move, i think the fiesta program team should like put a client that can allow us to chose from which drive to install to?


anyone pls help .
thx alot

cybergenesis
09-05-2008, 12:29 PM
Windows doesn't take up an entire drive...You have to have something you can move or delete - games, Music, Movies.

C:\Document and Settings\YOURUSERNAME\Local Settings\Temp

Make sure that folder only has 1 copy of the installer in it. The temp folder holds all things you download for a period of time before it gets cleared out. I'f you've downloaded the client more than once, you might have multiple copies in there.

Mongster
09-05-2008, 04:46 PM
alright thx alot cos the file under the link u give is in hidden mode, so unable to see it and i have just cleared like 3gb of space..

csr_hal
09-05-2008, 06:01 PM
guys, our dev team worked hard on this installer, please be nicer about your remarks. please remember, we are a work in progress and as we go forward, we will work out bugs like this. your feedback is very useful to us, so please keep it to the facts and details and leave the negative remarks out... they are unnecessary. thank you for understanding and your support!