2H Sword DD build?

[xoooxooox]

Could anyone please post a skill build for 2h sword DD? Which skills should I be getting and which should have empowerment? Thanks, I'm new so bear with me =)

[blanketpenetrate]

2h uses all the same moves as and axe, so.... do the same thing as you would with an axe.

[allyyCORE]

Like Colin stated, 2h users would have to focus on the same thing as an axe user...

...But to be honest, you middas well go with an axe... the axe attack speed isn't bad at all, in fact, it shouldn't even be a concern... If you're a DD, you should get as much damage as you can done, no sense in making less damage...

Then again, it is your own character and your own choices. Just a little enlightenment from my part xD

[xoooxooox]

As I stated I'm new =D, could someone tell me skills that would be needed for axe build? along with its empowerments?

[Chaola]

Read all that : http://outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90060

And if you still have questions, ask them again :)

[chester17]

it depend on wat u wat
u wan to be full DD u must use a axe
if not u can use 2h sword if u jus wan to look nice (It look very hero with the 2h sword over ur shoulder when u run, and look clumsy carrying the axe ard, LOL)
if u wan be DD in my opinion dun chose 2h sword. i rather u be a tanker if u wan use 2h sword, lol
For my fighter i have all 3 type, LOL

[allyyCORE]

it depend on wat u wat
u wan to be full DD u must use a axe
if not u can use 2h sword if u jus wan to look nice (It look very hero with the 2h sword over ur shoulder when u run, and look clumsy carrying the axe ard, LOL)
if u wan be DD in my opinion dun chose 2h sword. i rather u be a tanker if u wan use 2h sword, lol
For my fighter i have all 3 type, LOL

Wrong; You don't have to use an axe strictly, BUT it is highly recommended you do. If you're going to go with a DD build, you should go with the 'philosophy' of dealing as much damage as possible (hence, using an axe over a 2h). If you examine both weapons closely, you will know that the axe damage is waaaay much more dealing than the 2h weapon. The worst part is that the damage attack rate DOES NOT compensate for it.

Fighters nowadays though have invested free stat points in more than one/two character stats, so you will see a lot of people using 2h's and such. Yeah, the 2h is a pretty cool weapon don't get me wrong, I own a few... but if you want to perform your best when you're mobbing, you should either go with a full END, full DD, or the more uncommon full DEX.

[G1XXER]

You know I read a lot that you need to go full END or full STR with +25 SPR option. I am 2:1, STR:END and plan to get SPR to 20. To be exact I stopped at +19 on END to give me a +10 on defence. So by the time I cap I'll be (+19END,+20SPR,the rest STR) I love my character. I use mostly 1H and shield, plan to go axe at level 70, but for now I still pull aggro off mages and everyone with just attacking mobs in Spider Quest and have good enuff defence that I don't over work the clerics. It's nice soloing also, not hard on hp stones(never have enough sp stones lol), and I kill plenty fast. Just letting you know there's other options out there.;)

[Morok]

it depends on how u build ur char and 2h can do better in damage in regular attacks with axe (speaking from aim and attack rate) 2h have faster attack rate and higher aim than axe, axe got more power and crits. All weapons have their advantage and disadvantage

[tetrahedron]

From lvl 20, I used the axe and have a 2:1 end/str build, but I recently got a green 2h sword drop with awesome crit stats that I had to try it out. I'm sold on that 2h sword. It's a perfect fit for a hybrid DD.

For the empowerment, I did Power Hit, 5 in cooldown and strength. I'll come back to it later once I do some other empowerments and work on lowering the SP consumption.

[otterfactory]

Well 2H sword isn't a terrible choice and since it looks cooler :D there are many things you can do to improve its effectiveness in battle compared to an axe.
Well the few advantages a Sword has to an Axe are its increased attack speed (.2second difference) and its better Aim (Very important lvl 82+ ;)), so trying to take advantage of the attack speed as much as possible should be your goal. I will also assume you won't be entering in PvP with this build or tanking for any parties either :p.

For a 2H DD Build:

-Go Full STR: For starters you are adding more damage to each of your already faster than axe hits. Also since your damage per hit will be lower you might not reach the threshold of damage per hit to surpass the bonus from 25SPR critical bonus rate until much later in the game if using a 2H.

-On Equips choose STR before END: I usually never do this because I love high END in my equips for all characters, but If you are actually trying to make a 2H sword as effective as possible this might be the right route. The reason again is to try to increase your damage output per hit. However since you will be weak defensively unless you manage to find Godly STR/END weapons/armors you might have to spend money on HP Extender or +9ing armor to be as effective as an axe build but certainly not necessary. DEX and SPR would be nice to have on equips but not as important as the first 2.

-Skills: Since your sword is already swinging fast I don't suggest cooling down any of the attack skills except for Power Hit (5 points in CD) and of course Devastate (5 Points CD). Make sure to have extra points to add to these as soon as possible.
Normally I would recommend cooling down Mock as well, but your primary goal should be dealing alot of damage with a sword, so you will save those skill points to add to the damage of the other skills. Avoid adding damage to the skills with high cooltimes, because they might be great for PvP but thats not really the goal here.
The other skills in order that you should add points: 5 Points in Power Hit Damage, 5 points in Devastate Damage, 5 points in Devastate Duration, 5 Damage Fatal Slash, 5 Damage Immobilize, 5 Damage Bone Slicer. Then you will have 4 more points by level 89 to spend I suppose Damage to Precise Attack will be fine here.

-Playing the game: Should be pretty simple, you will solo alot when there are no repeat quests to do. Look for high experience, high defense, low damaging monsters to kill, because that is where your swords attack speed will truly shine. Examples of these are Stonies, Red Stonies, Ancient Stonies, Magmatons, Lava Magmatons etc. (Notice the rock motif xD). You might even want to try dungeon monsters, as they give more XP and great drops, they are perfect for a 2H because of their high def and hp although you must be careful and fight them one at a time because of their higher damage.
If possible find yourself a license and work on it as much as possible because it will again highlight the fast pace at which a 2H attacks.
In a party your main goal will be as Devastator (the skill, not like some fancy title for yourself). Theoretically, you could have trouble in parties before that skill, but then again no one really knows how to party around that level anyways (Devastate is a level 43 skill), and a DD Fighter can solo quests and mobs just fine anyways.

-But do not worry, by the time you reach Burning Rock at level 80 all your hard work will be rewarded, as you will have better aim than the axe fighters (this is soooo important D: I can't even describe how awful it is to miss a Kidmon and watch it heal himself) as well as the fact that many of the monsters will be so tough that the sword will begin to pull close to the axe if not surpass it in speed of killing and look cool while doing it.

Go-Go 2H Warrior!

[renaissance_gal]

I have a question, as I'm trying to work on my fighter and not sure of weapon choice. I'm going for pure strength fighter. Now I've heard that for dealing the most damage, use an axe because it has more power. But it's slower than a 2 handed sword. The person I talked to said to use an axe for "tanking" and a 2 handed sword for soloing. So I guess I'm confused. Wouldn't it be better to just use a 2 handed sword all the time? Because it sounds to me like it's easier to wield than an axe. And then another person told me to use a 1 handed sword and shield for soloing and an axe for tanking. So I could really use some help. If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.

In case you need to know my build, all I can say is that I've been putting all my points into Strength. Some of my armor is green with endurance and dexterity stats.

[Lomirei]

When I'm soloing, I usually use an axe and when I'm tanking, I switch to 1h+shield or 2h sword.
However, my build is a hybrid.
>_<

[renaissance_gal]

Okay, still confused on this. I've even read someone's fighter guide. I still don't know which way to go. Maybe I'll just get an axe and 2 handed sword. But my next question with that would be, on the skills you get when you reach level 20, I noticed that the passive skills are two handed sword mastery and axe mastery. If I get both an axe and a 2 handed sword, do I have to buy both passive skills? That's a bit confusing. And exactly how many skills does one get at level 20? Yes, I'm a newbie, been playing for... 2 weeks? I think. And I still can't figure some things out.

[Lomirei]

Okay, so my build is 25 SPR, rest END - for now.
At lvl 20 - 49, I used 1h+shield for tanking and 2h sword for soloing.
I wasn't a fan of axes.
I bought most of my skills and their upgrades with the exception of vitality and toughness.
I also bought both passive skills for 1h and 2h swords.
It wasn't until lvl 50, when I decided that I'll be using an axe, that I bought those passive skills as well.

Considering that my fighter is my secondary char, it is VERY spoiled.
What I suggest you do is figure out which one you're really going to be using, then buy the passive skills for that particular one.

As to how many skills you're going to be getting at lvl 20.
I don't really remember.
I think around 2 or 3?

[otterfactory]

I have a question, as I'm trying to work on my fighter and not sure of weapon choice. I'm going for pure strength fighter. Now I've heard that for dealing the most damage, use an axe because it has more power. But it's slower than a 2 handed sword. The person I talked to said to use an axe for "tanking" and a 2 handed sword for soloing. So I guess I'm confused. Wouldn't it be better to just use a 2 handed sword all the time? Because it sounds to me like it's easier to wield than an axe. And then another person told me to use a 1 handed sword and shield for soloing and an axe for tanking. So I could really use some help. If anyone can help me out with this it would be greatly appreciated.

In case you need to know my build, all I can say is that I've been putting all my points into Strength. Some of my armor is green with endurance and dexterity stats.

If you are tanking I assume you mean tanking as many monsters as you can possibly pull for a party of people who intends to AoE them, or tanking a boss in a KQ.

For the KQ, unless the monster is incredibly strong like Mini-Dragon, I suggest using an axe or 2h because their damage combined with the kick and mock skills make it very hard to lose agro.

When tanking for an AoE party, which will happen more in the lvl 40+ part of the game you should probably use a 1h sword and a shield, because of the great increase in defense, block rate and probably hp (if the shield has end).

For soloing it is best to pick the weapon that will deal the most damage as possible, theoretically a fighter can AoE by itself, using devastate alone xD, but it is still slow going and I don't believe what people say about being able to pull more mobs and kill them faster with a 1h, as devastate only does maybe 1/15th of the mobs damage every 13 seconds with a 1h, meanwhile with an axe you can take down each of the mobs in 5 seconds xD. So for soloing always choose either a 2h or an axe.

[allyyCORE]

it depends on how u build ur char and 2h can do better in damage in regular attacks with axe (speaking from aim and attack rate) 2h have faster attack rate and higher aim than axe, axe got more power and crits. All weapons have their advantage and disadvantage

Sorry dude, I don't completely agree with your statement here;
There are only several ways to build a character, and only 2, possibly 3 builds will get you very far, very quick. Aim is easily taken care of with an aim scroll, making a 2h useless in a fight against an axe wielder. As I mentioned before, the attack rate doesn't really account for anything, as players really only spam skills, and skill damage is increased a load just by holding the axe.

The 2h is a useless weapon; It's a nice option, but you either kill fast using an axe, or you tank and build your defense with a 1h/shield.

Fighter weapons are a black/white issue when it comes to getting quick results. If you plan on going hybrid, expect to level slow unless you party A LOT. If you think you have what it takes to level fast as a hybrid, props, but don't think it's got it's problems; burning through money is one since neither your defense or attack is good enough to get the job done quick or efficiently when compared to full END, full STR builds.

[hipp0s]

Boo Axes :0

[Dou_Maxwell]

Sorry dude, I don't completely agree with your statement here;
There are only several ways to build a character, and only 2, possibly 3 builds will get you very far, very quick. Aim is easily taken care of with an aim scroll, making a 2h useless in a fight against an axe wielder. As I mentioned before, the attack rate doesn't really account for anything, as players really only spam skills, and skill damage is increased a load just by holding the axe.

The 2h is a useless weapon; It's a nice option, but you either kill fast using an axe, or you tank and build your defense with a 1h/shield.

Fighter weapons are a black/white issue when it comes to getting quick results. If you plan on going hybrid, expect to level slow unless you party A LOT. If you think you have what it takes to level fast as a hybrid, props, but don't think it's got it's problems; burning through money is one since neither your defense or attack is good enough to get the job done quick or efficiently when compared to full END, full STR builds.

I respect ur opinion about axes. But its not true that 2h is a useless weapon. In fact, I am able to kill players who uses axe using my 2h. And if 2h swords are useless, then Outspark shouldnt put those kind of weapons but they still did so 2h's are NOT useless.

[allyyCORE]

I respect ur opinion about axes. But its not true that 2h is a useless weapon. In fact, I am able to kill players who uses axe using my 2h. And if 2h swords are useless, then Outspark shouldnt put those kind of weapons but they still did so 2h's are NOT useless.

I'm not talking about a 2h being a useless weapon; I'm talking about a DD'er with a 2h being owned by a DD'er axe player.

Being able to kill someone with an axe doesn't mean they're necessarily DD, in fact, I know loads of players nowadays that use an axe and aren't full STR or even 75% STR.

I'm only guessing here, but OnsOns put that weapon in for variety and for those who want one; I'm sure it wasn't a weapon that was intended to become anything big; I mean, look at Bright Kingdom; later levels that branch a fighter go either tank or damage; you don't see an "in-between" class.

Seriously though, if you think you can fair better with a 2h than an axe as a dealer, good for you. And if you can kill a DD axe with a DD 2h build, congratulations, because that would really be impressive.

[otterfactory]

Well in defense of Duo Maxwell:


I'm not talking about a 2h being a useless weapon; I'm talking about a DD'er with a 2h being owned by a DD'er axe player.

...and what you originally said:


The 2h is a useless weapon; It's a nice option, but you either kill fast using an axe, or you tank and build your defense with a 1h/shield.

Fighter weapons are a black/white issue when it comes to getting quick results.

I know you started out talking about PvP, but ended up saying 2Hs were totally useless.


Being able to kill someone with an axe doesn't mean they're necessarily DD, in fact, I know loads of players nowadays that use an axe and aren't full STR or even 75% STR.

Makes sense to me, the same way that a Hammer is better than a mace for a Full END cleric. Without the STR in the free stat the weapon is doing more of the work killing the mobs, and so a higher damage weapon deals more over time than a faster weapon.


Also, maybe Knights can only use 1Hs, Shields, and 2Hs while Gladiators can only use 2Hs and Axes, that would be a sensible and aesthetically pleasing balance :p. I don't see many knights with axes after all :D.

But I have to agree with you Ally, I don't ever see a 2H user killing an Axe wielder when all other factors are equal or close to equal (Level, Greens, Enhancements, Sparkcash). PvP with against Fighters is not geared towards long drawn out fights, more like quick bursts of spamming every skill you have, therefore the Axe will always have the advantage in PvP. I keep all 3 weapons personally, as a Full STR build I find that 1H/Shield is good for AoE tanking, Axe is good for KQ/PvP/Soloing most things, and 2H is VERY effective against hard to kill monsters that will cause long fights (Dungeon Mobs/Bosses, also I'm looking at you Kidmon, and every monster your level and Higher with your annoying Evasion D:<).

[Dou_Maxwell]

Well here in bijou 2h users can kill axe wielders. Its just a matter of how u use your skills and how u react on the skills of an axe wielder.