What is a better place for item enhancement?

[lightmagician6]

HI.Something came up while I be on fiesta.Everytime when I'm in elderine & I want 2 enhance my weapons or clothes, I be goin 2 the smith but for some reason, my enhancements be failing alot & sometimes be downgrading my items. But, when I'm in roumen, the items be hardly be failing & easily get up 2 +6. Does the smiths in elderine & roumen affects the enhancements? I need 2 know.:cool:

[Celtic_Princess]

It seems to be different for everyone, if roumen works better for you...stay there.

[mutedmuse]

agreed, i heard a rumor that tier 1 is best in roumen, tier 2 and 3 in Eldy and higher in the place that starts with a "U"...i havent been there yet so i cant say if its true.

So far i have enhanced tier two in both eldy and roumen both times i failed the same amount of times, so i dont think where you go matters...enhancement is a game of statistics and risk. for instance when using lucky stones you get a 5% increase in double lvl, but you also get added 5% breakage...taking that into consideration use lucky stones wisely (or with CS items). the only true way to make sure you will enhance is to buy the CS items (i was sad about that). i do know of some people making it to +8 and +9 with no CS items (they had lots of money for all the times they broke weapons).

i dont know if that answered the question or if it was just a long explanation of nothing.

[lightmagician6]

agreed, i heard a rumor that tier 1 is best in roumen, tier 2 and 3 in Eldy and higher in the place that starts with a "U"...i havent been there yet so i cant say if its true.

So far i have enhanced tier two in both eldy and roumen both times i failed the same amount of times, so i dont think where you go matters...enhancement is a game of statistics and risk. for instance when using lucky stones you get a 5% increase in double lvl, but you also get added 5% breakage...taking that into consideration use lucky stones wisely (or with CS items). the only true way to make sure you will enhance is to buy the CS items (i was sad about that). i do know of some people making it to +8 and +9 with no CS items (they had lots of money for all the times they broke weapons).

i dont know if that answered the question or if it was just a long explanation of nothing.

I'm not understanding this myself, but when I be using tier 2 stones, sometimes in elderine, they be boosting up the clothes or weapons lv by 2. IS it because of the stone's power like lucky & blessed or is it something else?

[marfish]

I'm not understanding this myself, but when I be using tier 2 stones, sometimes in elderine, they be boosting up the clothes or weapons lv by 2. IS it because of the stone's power like lucky & blessed or is it something else?

Well,,,the only way to get 2 enhancement steps from one stone is if it is a "Lucky" one. The "Bless" stones only increase the chance of success and don't give multiple upgrades. Neither do the common green ones we make ourselves.
But,,,without the Red eye and Blue miles(from the cash shop), you are risking breakage with EVERY spin. If your item has great to godly stats on it, don't risk breaking it. Take it to someone you trust that uses the Reds and Blues to enhance it, and expect to pay a premium price for it because it is worth it. Imho.

Each tier of items is vastly more costly to the player, both to buy and to enhance(and re-sale price). But, because we have a more mature game income capability, we can usually endure those costs.

For the record, if my calculations are correct: the cash shop cost of T 2 reds is $2.78 per stack and the blues are $2.17 per stack (not too bad considering all the play time we get). The equivalent value in current game money is approximately 125 silver per cash dollar(this value changes almost daily). So, do the math for your application(reds @ $2.78/per stack = 347 silver/stack). If using reds and blues from the beginning to make an item +9, T 2 enhancements take from 3 to 5 stacks each of the Reds and Blues(30-50 spins),. If you're very lucky and only use 3 stacks of each, you'll spend the equivalent of 1.85 gold just in Reds and Blues and not counting the Elrue, Lix, and Xir when enhancing T2 items. Now you know why they are SO expensive for a +9 item to buy. Lvl 50 is the top of T2 and MUCH more valuable than lvl 24(bottom of T2, but cost the same to enhance). So you see, it is very costly to enhance to +9, but you never worry about breakage and you get what you can afford by using the reds/blues. PLEASE,, If I made any errors in calculation, let me know.

This doesn't mean you cannot have some high degree of success enhancing without using many of the Reds and Blues, because the chances of failure/breakage are lowest at the Elrue stage and climb with each successful upgrade of your item, you can often get it to +5 or 6 before breakage. If the stats aren't that great on your item, and you can EASILY replace the item, then take a chance and start without the Reds and Blues til around +5 and then continue the process while using the reds and blues to finish off said item. I have noticed that with T2 GREEN items that have poor "free" stats, they are usually much cheaper to buy than the NPC items at the smith. The higher the level, the more pronounced this price difference is, due to high lvl players wanting ONLY high "free stats" on their gear. But you can also find super good deals on occaision. I have gotten godly and nearly godly statted weapons for LESS than NPC prices, so shop around for any green item and get what you can afford. Then plan your enhancement process. Btw, when dealing with weapons, just because it is GREEN labeled, doesn't mean you'll get super main stats and conversely, just because it has great "free stats" does NOT mean it will out perform another GREEN weapon. Look at the basic stats on it and compare it with both the NPC weapon and another GREEN weapon with good "free stats" of same level. Taking into account: Damage, Aim, and Crit rate, and what STR, END, DEX, INT, AND SPR do for you, you may pick up cheaply, what looks like a poor statted weapon when in reality it may have colossal aim, damage, and or crit rate that makes it just as good as the one with high STR, DEX, INT, or SPR. Believe it or don't 'cause that will leave that many more for me to ****** up.....lol. >*< I have a couple of weapons like that.

Disclaimer 1:
These are only my opinions and methods on the process of weapons choice and enhancing. Take these steps at your own risk and understand the cost involved before beginning.

Disclaimer 2:
Outspark does NOT sell game gold and prohibits the practice therof.
However, for comparison purposes, my calculations of the value of game gold and silver are solely based on black-market offerings from the pesky and irritating game spammers..lol ><.
fun to all.........
Mar

[deadly1998]

iv been wondering tht 2

[marfish]

I edited the text about the weapons choices to clarify what I meant, though it still looks like a repeat of my above post
[QUOTE=marfish;1139272]Well,,,the only way to get 2 enhancement steps from one stone is if it is a "Lucky" one. The "Bless" stones only increase the chance of success and don't give multiple upgrades. Neither do the common green ones we make ourselves.
But,,,without the Red eye and Blue miles(from the cash shop), you are risking breakage with EVERY spin. If your item has great to godly stats on it, don't risk breaking it. Take it to someone you trust that uses the Reds and Blues to enhance it, and expect to pay a premium price for it because it is worth it. Imho.

Each tier of items is vastly more costly to the player, both to buy and to enhance(and re-sale price). But, because we have a more mature game income capability, we can usually endure those costs.

For the record, if my calculations are correct: the cash shop cost of T 2 reds is $2.78 per stack and the blues are $2.17 per stack (not too bad considering all the play time we get). The equivalent value in current game money on the Epith server is approximately 125 silver per cash dollar(this value changes almost daily). So, do the math for your application(reds @ $2.78/per stack = 347 silver/stack). If using reds and blues from the beginning to make an item +9, T 2 enhancements take from 3 to 5 stacks each of the Reds and Blues(30-50 spins),. If you're very lucky and only use 3 stacks of each, you'll spend the equivalent of 1.85 gold just in Reds and Blues and not counting the Elrue, Lix, and Xir when enhancing T2 items. Now you know why they are SO expensive for a +9 item to buy. Lvl 50 is the top of T2 and MUCH more valuable than lvl 24(bottom of T2, but cost the same to enhance). So you see, it is very costly to enhance to +9, but you never worry about breakage and you get what you can afford by using the reds/blues. PLEASE,, If I made any errors in calculation, let me know.

This doesn't mean you cannot have some high degree of success enhancing without using many of the Reds and Blues, because the chances of failure/breakage are lowest at the Elrue stage and climb with each successful upgrade of your item, you can often get it to +5 or 6 before breakage. If the stats aren't that great on your item, and you can EASILY replace the item, then take a chance and start without the Reds and Blues til around +5 and then continue the process while using the reds and blues to finish off said item.

I have noticed that starting with T2 GREEN items that have poor "free" stats, they are usually much cheaper to buy than the NPC items at the smith. The higher the level, the more pronounced this price difference is, due to high lvl players wanting ONLY high "free stats" on their gear. But you can also find super good deals on occaision. I have gotten godly and nearly godly statted weapons for LESS than NPC prices, so shop around for any green item and get what you can afford. Then plan your enhancement process. Btw, when dealing with WEAPONS, just because it is GREEN labeled, doesn't mean you'll get main item stats(damage, aim, & crit rate) that are significantly higher than the NPC weapons. Conversely, just because it has great "free stats"(STR+__,END+__,DEX+__,INT+__,SPR+__) does NOT mean it will out perform another GREEN weapon that has fewer "free stats" but ranks higher in main item stats(damage, aim, crit %). Look at the main item stats on it and compare it with both the NPC weapon and another GREEN weapon with good "free stats" of same level. Taking into account: Damage, Aim, and Crit rate, and what STR, END, DEX, INT, AND SPR do for you, you may pick up cheaply, what looks like a poorly statted weapon when in reality it may have colossal damage, aim, and or crit rate that makes it just as good as the one with high STR, DEX, INT, or SPR.

In dealing with "free stats", +END only adds def., shield, and HP to YOU, and +SPR only adds magic def. and SP to YOU. You won't get +crit rate from +SPR. Also, when enhancing, the resulting numbers on the weapon are based only on the BASE DAMAGE of the weapon and not on any "free stats", so a weapon with higher base damage will end up with higher overall damage by the end of the process. I have a couple of weapons like that.
Believe it or don't 'cause that will just leave that many more for me to ****** up.....lol. >*<

Disclaimer 1:
These are only my opinions and methods on the process of weapons choice and enhancing. Take these steps at your own risk and understand the cost involved before beginning.

Disclaimer 2:
Outspark does NOT sell game gold and prohibits the practice therof.
However, for comparison purposes of cash shop Red eye and Blue mile stones, my calculations of the value of game gold and silver are solely based on black-market offerings from the pesky and irritating game spammers..lol ><.
fun to all.........
Mar
,,,,I love this game

[mutedmuse]

getting to +9 on my T2 Axe is taking forever...20 blues and reds to get to +8, but once at +9 its going to be awesome and so worth the cash, even at +8 i am destroying monsters.

in reply to cost of silver in game to real life that is horrible. there should not be an equivalent to real money with in-game money. its bad enough that the economy of the servers is all jacked up as is with ridiculously high prices on some servers. Aww who am i kidding, if it were possible for me to make a few extra bucks in real life i would sell my gold and silver

[flii26]

thats similar to what i did,i stayed in elderin because i got me bow to +7 but when i tried to get it to +8 it blew and then i blew 2 more bows so i went to roumen and enhanced my cleric weapon and sheild and none of them degraded or blew.. i was so tempted to quit my hawkarcher T.T

[tliofcakhart]

i would prefer roumen, cuz pretty music in the back ground
so u can just sit back and enjoy the music while praying that ur enhancement will work xD
although i got my 70 wand from 0 - +8 in uruga, only took me around 10 tries, w00t
+4 - +6 all hit in 1 try lol, must be lucky :3

[marfish]

i would prefer roumen, cuz pretty music in the back ground
so u can just sit back and enjoy the music while praying that ur enhancement will work xD
although i got my 70 wand from 0 - +8 in uruga, only took me around 10 tries, w00t
+4 - +6 all hit in 1 try lol, must be lucky :3


That does it!!! I'm switching over to TEVA.....lol,,,,
Really tho,,you had a great run of luck. The only time I get that lucky is when I'm enhancing for a friend. XD ^^

[jmHero]

Was in Uruga today and was window shopping. Saw some nice gear but they usually want too much and the levels are usually above mine. However, I can dream and drool, right?;) And I look for opportunities to turn some proffit.

So I look into this one shop and, see an unenhanced lvl 60, GREEN mage staff with some very mediocre +stats for 150 silver. But OMG!!! Can that be what I think it is!!??:eek: So, I take the sale store page over to the smith and start the comparison. OMG!! The damage, aim and crit rate are all 3 way higher than the NPC staff and ALSO the wand!!..And we all know that wands have higher damage and crit. rate. I did a very quick consultation with a lvl 60 mage and bought the staff. Why?:confused:

+ Stats: DEX+30(max), INT+23 (very nice), SPR+9(crappy). Total: 62 usables. This is respectable but not at all godly.
Base stats: M.dmg-247, Aim-237, Crit. rate-4% (double the NPC one).

But wait: I look into other vendors to check out how well I did and discovered something interesting. I got lucky and... I GOT A STEAL!!
Theirs are also GREEN and one had END+29(near max) SPR+12 for . The other had DEX+18, SPR+23. END is sought after by many mages so is rated higher than other stats. But in every case my new staff beat the base stats as well as the +stats. All of them. And thiers were ALL better than the NPC model in significant ways. Their prices? 500s and 600s each.

So, what was it that made mine so special? The GREEN title of:
GIANT ORC CAPTAIN FAIRY STAFF. LOL<,,,>< xd IT'S A BOSS WEAPON!!! And did I fall off my mount when I saw that title, or what!? Heck yeah it's worth the 150s. I'm just glad I had the money and the time to look in that vendor. So keep looking, and shop early- before you need something so you can pass by the expensive rejects and wait for that golden opportunity.
mar

[lightmagician6]

I'm definitely is goin 2 enhance in roumen.I was able 2 enhance a lucky lv1 xir without breaking my shield & weapon & I was even able 2 use a lv2 elrue in roumen without breaking it.