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la_flamme
09-21-2008, 05:43 PM
* I am not teaching people how to use bugs to make money, but to warn people be smart about the market*

Kill manner bunny and toadmeter to obtain firewoods!!! You can simply find 10 fw in almost 5 minutes! No wonder why people have like hundreds of FWs for sale, huh~ please, stop buying FWs!!!


PS. the FW u get from the bunnies are 100% identical to the ones drop from those wood men.

not convinced yet? ok, take a look at this screen cap!

http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/481/09218ea1qu0.jpg

kazuya-str
09-21-2008, 05:47 PM
Uhh... ._.; I accidently overpriced mine the other day but I'm still happy people were desperate to buy them ><; But I'm not sure if you can stop the whole community from not buying FW.

Mainly because a large portion doesn't even use the forums =/

Convent
09-21-2008, 05:49 PM
I'm pretty sure the firewood you're referring to and the firewood required for the quest is different. The firewood that the blacksmith wants is the long branches, like the ones used for pinocchio noses; it's a typo. The firewood for the advance pet quest is one found only by a certain amount of monsters around level 3x-4x as a semi-rare drop.

la_flamme
09-21-2008, 05:50 PM
no, it is firewood!

DemKill9556
09-21-2008, 06:00 PM
Umm Last time i checked Manner Rabbits and Toadmelters DO NOT drop firewood they Drop the Stick for the Puppet Nose Quest and a Xen and others But Not FIREWOOD!

kazuya-str
09-21-2008, 06:01 PM
Errm... what does the Quest Say? =/

la_flamme
09-21-2008, 06:10 PM
well maybe i can convince u guys with a screen cap

stefito780
09-21-2008, 06:22 PM
THEY DROP FIREWOOD THEY FEALLY DO.
I asked so many ppls from where they get there fw and most of them just lied to me.
>_>

ARNOTA
09-21-2008, 06:25 PM
yeah me to this is stupid that ppl took advantage of this bug so much. But i guess everyone is greedy!

thrakx
09-21-2008, 06:43 PM
they dont drop them that quickly. I still havent gotten one.

TheDarkSenshi
09-21-2008, 06:48 PM
Very detailed. good job. >.>;

justin_2006
09-21-2008, 06:57 PM
O.o
im thinking about trying this lol :D

Euphie
09-21-2008, 07:01 PM
I went to go visit maps with bunnies just now to see how many people were there, and WOW... A whole lot of high people killing bunnies.

I even took screenshots of how many people I saw.........
-__-

tankofinsanity
09-21-2008, 07:05 PM
OMG

thank you SO much =D

now I wont be ripped off

and shame to those firewood hunters who didnt tell anyone D=<

are virtual krons worth your honor and pride?

deoxys114
09-21-2008, 07:08 PM
Wow, this is awesome. I made 75 FW in 1 hour. I will do this until the GMs fix it, or say not to. Until then, I am stocking up!

Cdraconis
09-21-2008, 07:35 PM
Maybe people are killing them for their pet quests? 50 firewood was a pain and a half getting back before this bug - can't blame them for doing so. Boo to the sellers though.

Just sucks how many people worked so hard to get 50 firewood...then they drop like candy.

pawaih
09-21-2008, 07:46 PM
pet quest can done be easier today.. it sux to find firewoods for 3 or 4 month ago.. waste of million krons..

poochyenarulez
09-21-2008, 07:54 PM
can you guys not be happy? everyone complains about things being over priced, and when something finally gets lowered, people complain about there being to many and that there priced to low...

ryang88
09-21-2008, 07:58 PM
can you guys not be happy? everyone complains about things being over priced, and when something finally gets lowered, people complain about there being to many and that there priced to low...

Because people are whiners!

kazuya-str
09-21-2008, 08:07 PM
can you guys not be happy? everyone complains about things being over priced, and when something finally gets lowered, people complain about there being to many and that there priced to low...

There has been a case of something being too many? ._.;
And I seriously swear I have never seen a bunny drop firewood =/
Guess I'll go check it out.

In fact... when Cloren Hunting... (Quest)
I have somehow gotten much more than I have gotten before...

dodg3vip3r
09-21-2008, 08:18 PM
I guess the GM should really start doing something about the game... There's so many bugs in the quests and now there's this firewood problem... If this carries on unsolved, i guess many people is just gonna quit this stupid game including me. How are u going to compete with other MMORPGs with this kinda standard?

And let's not forget about the free spark cash email glitch whereby only some received the emails. If not everyone is gonna receive it, Y do u bother to send out in the first place?

wolfenstein3d
09-21-2008, 08:21 PM
can you guys not be happy? everyone complains about things being over priced, and when something finally gets lowered, people complain about there being to many and that there priced to low...

I think it's because so many people have gotten ripped off buying firewood at 100K and then seeing it at 50K the next minute. By tomorrow you probably won't even be able to sell it for 10K.

Honestly I would be totally elated about this IF stupid Outspark actually released detailed patch notes with this sort of information, so all the players had a fair shot at lots of firewood without getting ripped off by vendors. Instead what happens is a few people figure it out and rake in millions of krons while the rest of us stand around clueless saying "oh my, firewood is cheap now isn't it?"

deoxys114
09-21-2008, 08:21 PM
Dude, you should understand that this game is in Open BETA right now. No surprise that there is glitches.

Don't mind me, just making my point. Go back to the topic now.

kazuya-str
09-21-2008, 08:22 PM
I guess the GM should really start doing something about the game... There's so many bugs in the quests and now there's this firewood problem... If this carries on unsolved, i guess many people is just gonna quit this stupid game including me. How are u going to compete with other MMORPGs with this kinda standard?

And let's not forget about the free spark cash email glitch whereby only some received the emails. If not everyone is gonna receive it, Y do u bother to send out in the first place?

The Game isn't perfect yet. =/ It's still in Open Beta where people like us sort of well... "test" these bugs and glitches I suppose. And the Free Sparkcash thing...:
http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=111467


Edit: DARN! I post slow -.- Back to topic~

dodg3vip3r
09-21-2008, 08:30 PM
I understand that this is still open beta but honestly speaking, this is probably the worst open beta MMORPG i have played... Just to name a few, *non outspark games* were so much better. If you are not going to solve the bugs and try to improve the game, why bother setting up a beta version in the first place? Although it's a beta version, ppl are still using cash(real money) to buy sparkcash for this game and i hope at least the game is worth their money regardless it's a beta version or not.

Darcaen
09-21-2008, 08:46 PM
Firstly, this is a bug.

This is a bug because you cannot complete the level 19 quest. My guess is there used to be different identifiers for quest firewood and normal firewood, but now the identifiers are messed up. The bug was probably introduced by the recent update, along with the messed up neophyte skills and the mysterious disciple skill. I cannot verify these hypotheses though, as I did not attempt the firewood quest prior to the recent update.

p.s. I deleted the quest and deleted the 10 firewood I collected by this quest. So, no, I did not exploit this bug.

Sawars
09-21-2008, 09:04 PM
Well I already bought 50 firewoods priced at 89,000 kron...will I get penalized for buying it?

If Gm's do something about the bug, I hope it doesn't take the Firewood away from us, because then I would be in need of my refund in kron >.>

But then again if Gm's ban accounts for abusing the bug...then alot of high level peeps will be in big trouble...and yes I can name a few of them that I saw abusing the bug. However, I will not mention anyone's name here. All I will tell you is that not everyone is who they seem on other characters. And yes, I remember everyone's In Game Name that I saw exploiting the bug.

However, if the Gm's actually did that, then there would be an even bigger problem...Outspark would lose money fast because those peeps use spark cash constantly.

A NOTE THE GM'S:

Think before you act upon all the players of the game. Considering it is not our fault you mess things up for the game.

CyroMega
09-21-2008, 09:10 PM
I guess the GM should really start doing something about the game... There's so many bugs in the quests and now there's this firewood problem... If this carries on unsolved, i guess many people is just gonna quit this stupid game including me. How are u going to compete with other MMORPGs with this kinda standard?

And let's not forget about the free spark cash email glitch whereby only some received the emails. If not everyone is gonna receive it, Y do u bother to send out in the first place?

did you register before the 12th? its for those that bought a premium item- they got 2500 sc, for those who have never bought, they got 7 day boost bag. Your join date is September...so i would see why you didn't get a email.

dodg3vip3r
09-21-2008, 09:25 PM
did you register before the 12th? its for those that bought a premium item- they got 2500 sc, for those who have never bought, they got 7 day boost bag. Your join date is September...so i would see why you didn't get a email.

I registered around the 11th or 12th Sep. Whether i qualify or not does not matter to me as i could only get a free 7 day boost at most. What i am more concerned with is the gameplay being error proned and from what i see, the admin is not being active enough to solve the issues. I understand that this is an open beta, but the admin could have at the minimum confirm with us that they are addressing the glitches and not leaving as it is. This would make us feel that it is worthy to spend our cash on this game.

Dragonfly77
09-21-2008, 09:27 PM
I don't think it is a bug...just a way to make the pet quest more bareable...(moving farmer to fight bunnies and toads :D) Pet quest, here I come XD

I've seen a few drop items been changed anyway. I got a gleaming piece from a starbear, and if I remember correctly, that didn't happen before, right?

ChaosAD
09-21-2008, 09:40 PM
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/481/09218ea1qu0.jpg

Since when did that Notice box up there on the screen appear when you collect a firewood? I've never seen that happen before. Or is it a new thing with the recent quest update? Quest items get that notice box thing when picked up now?

dodg3vip3r
09-21-2008, 09:49 PM
Yes, the same thing happens to other quest items like gleaming piece, hydrin, cloren, nitrine and ect.

Euphie
09-21-2008, 09:50 PM
When you picked up those Caricosobanas in Phil, those notice boxes appear.

CyroMega
09-21-2008, 09:52 PM
i think they are just fixing quests! :0

maybe it isn't a bug....o.0

although you can't complete it, they messed up there

la_flamme
09-21-2008, 10:08 PM
well i guess it is outspark taking action on lowering prices of these general quest items

dylanangel
09-21-2008, 10:08 PM
First lets refrain from posting non outspark games.

Second until it is confirmed or denied it is a bug dont speculate. I would hope that people would learn to not purchase lots from someone who is selling for a lot so they are not making money on a possible bug. Now that you know you can get your firewood for your pet quest by yourself instead of spending insane amounts on the firewood have at it.

We as a community need to come together instead of attacking others for what they chose to do with the firewood. You don't have to buy it from those selling it in bulk for large amounts. Go get your own firewood

opensunflowers
09-21-2008, 10:23 PM
I still don't see how this is a bug.
Yes, it allows you to get lots of firewood. Which are QUEST ITEMS.
So if one day you get more than you need of Clorens, strawberries, or something, you're doing something illegal?
Or all the people that farm firewood in the guron maps, are they abusing the drop rate?
I'm glad this "bug" exists. Firewood was getting incredibly ridiculous.

Soul strone fragment prices have dropped, is that a bug too?

Hilux
09-21-2008, 10:41 PM
I think the best thing for this problem would be for a GM to address it. rider, Cretz .... if you please XD

tankofinsanity
09-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Well then... 4 million wasted on buying 30 fw 2 weeks earlier :\

another evil plot from the blacksmith

seriously the blacksmith is 1 million time worse than alastor D=<

bad deed by alastor:
spawn monsters in essene

bad deed by blacksmith:
illegally taking others xen
downgrade your weapon
break your weapon
make firewood hunters cry

we should all form an angry mob around the blacksmith and stab him to death D=<

shp4656
09-21-2008, 11:08 PM
I still don't see how this is a bug.
Yes, it allows you to get lots of firewood. Which are QUEST ITEMS.
So if one day you get more than you need of Clorens, strawberries, or something, you're doing something illegal?
Or all the people that farm firewood in the guron maps, are they abusing the drop rate?
I'm glad this "bug" exists. Firewood was getting incredibly ridiculous.

Soul strone fragment prices have dropped, is that a bug too?

SSF price is dropping because there are so many aoers farming them (im one of them actually XD). Im a lv 60 squire and i get like 4-9 ssfs from one aoe and it only takes 5-10 minutes to kill like 50+ monsters with reflection. So i can easily find 30-40 ssfs in an hour. And I usually sell them for 90k.

luismlgrj
09-21-2008, 11:12 PM
Well first off, I don't see how the GMs can be held responsible for not telling people, when they might not even be aware of this "glitch".

Also I did the pet quest and I think it's ridiculous, I do like my pet Bow Wow. But it's ridiculous that the quest requires you to get 50 of this and 20 of that, esp when 1) Farming takes hours upon hours 2)Everything is so over-priced. I easily spent hours upon hours farming pet quest items and also spent millions on what I still needed, all for a pet that does nothing, lol. But that's besides the point...

Even though people might be taking advantage of the "glitch" it helps lower prices, I'm sure people wouldn't really object to a xen glitch and set monsters started dropping xens all of a sudden. Yea it sucks I bought mine for 100+k but if I ever want to do the pet quest again and I can find FW for 40-60k, why not? Just think of it as a "mass production" of firewood. And it's not like people are gonna be able to make lots of money since the price of them is gonna drop drastically.

As for them taking advantage of a glitch, can you blame them? I'm sure that almost everyone besides a very few amount would take advantage of the glitch if everyone knew about it.

Lastly I don't see a fair way to punish people seeing how the GMs don't know who took advantage of the glitch or who just honestly bought them or hunted for them without the glitch.

tankofinsanity
09-21-2008, 11:14 PM
SSF price is dropping because there are so many aoers farming them (im one of them actually XD). Im a lv 60 squire and i get like 4-9 ssfs from one aoe and it only takes 5-10 minutes to kill like 50+ monsters with reflection. So i can easily find 30-40 ssfs in an hour. And I usually sell them for 90k.

The difference here is mine aoers have to work really hard to get those ssf
they need to be:
squire below lvl 63ish
only aoe with reflection
has to have a full set of trial gear +4/6ap
compete with like 20 other ssf aoers

and firewood hunters can be anyone who can kill manner rabbits D=

kerine
09-21-2008, 11:24 PM
OMG. OMG. i just bought like over 70 pieces few days back.
as i thought fw 100k each are cheap..
damn thing

ChaosAD
09-21-2008, 11:36 PM
I wish there was an ssf glitch too...i want to get another pet :/ im bored of my bow wow.

flereous
09-21-2008, 11:41 PM
Well... if its not a bug it would have been nice to inform us about it... ''Manner Rabbit Firewood drop rate increased by 10000%'' -_-

tankofinsanity
09-21-2008, 11:47 PM
Well... if its not a bug it would have been nice to inform us about it... ''Manner Rabbit Firewood drop rate increased by 10000%'' -_-

more like infinity :\

since manner rabbits dont drop fw b4

dylanangel
09-21-2008, 11:48 PM
I wish there was an ssf glitch too...i want to get another pet :/ im bored of my bow wow.

I feel ya there. I want another pet but to high lvl to aoe the mines and my baby aco would get murdered lol

ZuttoNoTomodachi
09-22-2008, 12:11 AM
don't spread this! :O You'll put me out of business! xD;

I sell cheap anyway though. XP I sell everything cheap - in a desperate attempt to lower price inflation? idk.

Darcaen
09-22-2008, 02:30 AM
I don't think it is a bug...just a way to make the pet quest more bareable...(moving farmer to fight bunnies and toads :D) Pet quest, here I come XD
It is a broken quest that affected the entire game economy and caused panic with everyone that had a few firewood stored. Of course it is a bug. You don't get more bugged than this bug.

And I think it is especially important that we acknowledge these bugs as bugs, and not push them under the bed just because they benefit us for now. Outspark had obviously not done something right with the procedure of the recent update or the maintenance before (remember the delevelling bug?). Are they checking what they are updating? How did we get the neophyte skills and the disciple skill? Are they just porting codes and updates from the developers without thorough comparisons?

Let us remember what a big effect these bugs have caused, and ask Outspark these questions as a community. I am not for punishing players. I do think, however, that Outspark needs to be a lot more responsible with the way they run this game. We do not know how the next bug will hit or if it would change the game irrevocably, and something about the way Outspark updates or maintains or whatever is wrong.

I've seen a few drop items been changed anyway. I got a gleaming piece from a starbear, and if I remember correctly, that didn't happen before, right?
It did.

thrakx
09-22-2008, 02:56 AM
The difference here is mine aoers have to work really hard to get those ssf
they need to be:
squire below lvl 63ish
only aoe with reflection
has to have a full set of trial gear +4/6ap
compete with like 20 other ssf aoers

and firewood hunters can be anyone who can kill manner rabbits D=

correction you need to be below lvl 65, thats when the slimes start to run from you. and you DONT need a full set of 4/6 just half a set and an acolyte.

techno-viking
09-22-2008, 03:42 AM
Well then... 4 million wasted on buying 30 fw 2 weeks earlier :\

another evil plot from the blacksmith

seriously the blacksmith is 1 million time worse than alastor D=<

bad deed by alastor:
spawn monsters in essene

bad deed by blacksmith:
illegally taking others xen
downgrade your weapon
break your weapon
make firewood hunters cry

we should all form an angry mob around the blacksmith and stab him to death D=<

hahahaa

/signed

thrakx
09-22-2008, 05:07 AM
i dont think some one pointed out that you have to actually TAKE the lvl 19 quest from the blacksmith to get many FW's.

To the rest of you crybabies, GET OVER IT. Nobody really cares that you're losing money over it. Stop wasting everyones time with a whiny rant.

Aclaus
09-22-2008, 07:49 AM
I think the main problem will come once Outspark fixes this glitch. Then fw wont be such a common item and ppl will start jacking up the prices again, which will in turn be almost like exploiting a glitch. If they keep it how it is now it wont be a big deal cause prices wont go up any.

Anorta is right, people's greed is outstanding.

AnimePimp66
09-22-2008, 07:57 AM
indeed espically mine :D

bataii
09-22-2008, 08:05 AM
As a former StarTrek Fan (yes, I'm that old), I'd like to quote the Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #10: "Greed is eternal."

This isn't only true for Ferengi, I'm afraid.

BellaAnimorum
09-22-2008, 09:19 AM
Firstly, this is a bug.

This is a bug because you cannot complete the level 19 quest. My guess is there used to be different identifiers for quest firewood and normal firewood, but now the identifiers are messed up. The bug was probably introduced by the recent update, along with the messed up neophyte skills and the mysterious disciple skill. I cannot verify these hypotheses though, as I did not attempt the firewood quest prior to the recent update.

p.s. I deleted the quest and deleted the 10 firewood I collected by this quest. So, no, I did not exploit this bug.

This is NOT a bug!
Firstly, I ask you, the entirety of the forums and all players of SotS...

Has anyone ever even attempted this quest BEFORE this past Sunday?

I know I tried, and gave up. I honestly believed the only places to get firewood were from Guron/Hawgs/Hulao/Krapun... Apparently this was not the case. Does anyone realise WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS ALL ALONG??

This is no bug, but a matter of course. Oh, and also the quest IS COMPLETEABLE, however the manner is rather bugged, as you need to have 11 or more firewood in your inventory for the blacksmith to accept the 10 he wanted you to get. (REWARD: 3000 kron and 50 experience)

In my honest opinion, I like it this way, Solstice is starting to feel a bit more like it's parent Xenepic (where people have TENS of THOUSANDS of items in vendor windows). ^.^

Yes yes, people are "losing" money... but let us be realistic, what is money in this game? It's free, and plentiful, and easy to earn. Good day.

/Contemplate

EDIT: Added what the quest gave you for reward.

opensunflowers
09-22-2008, 09:50 AM
This is NOT a bug!
Firstly, I ask you, the entirety of the forums and all players of SotS...

Has anyone ever even attempted this quest BEFORE this past Sunday?

I know I tried, and gave up. I honestly believed the only places to get firewood were from Guron/Hawgs/Hulao/Krapun... Apparently this was not the case. Does anyone realise WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS ALL ALONG??

This is no bug, but a matter of course. Oh, and also the quest IS COMPLETEABLE, however the manner is rather bugged, as you need to have 11 or more firewood in your inventory for the blacksmith to accept the 10 he wanted you to get. (REWARD: 3000 kron and 50 experience)

In my honest opinion, I like it this way, Solstice is starting to feel a bit more like it's parent Xenepic (where people have TENS of THOUSANDS of items in vendor windows). ^.^

Yes yes, people are "losing" money... but let us be realistic, what is money in this game? It's free, and plentiful, and easy to earn. Good day.

/Contemplate

EDIT: Added what the quest gave you for reward.

Yay for Varn!
I agree.
:D

Eventually people will stop hoarding them--the novelty will wear off, and the market will stabalize. [maybe].

comp4ssion
09-22-2008, 10:09 AM
WOOHOO! I'm finally gonna be able to finish the Pet Quest!

notFire
09-22-2008, 10:28 AM
i dont think some one pointed out that you have to actually TAKE the lvl 19 quest from the blacksmith to get many FW's.

To the rest of you crybabies, GET OVER IT. Nobody really cares that you're losing money over it. Stop wasting everyones time with a whiny rant.

you are one of the reasons I will never get sick of coming to these forums...

As a former StarTrek Fan (yes, I'm that old), I'd like to quote the Ferengi Rule of Acquisition #10: "Greed is eternal."

This isn't only true for Ferengi, I'm afraid.

you are awesome! End of story xD

I didnt even bother reading this entire thread, I got about 3 pages through and it all sounded repetitive. I cant help but remember when Firewood was so rare it took a practically a week of grinding on a low level character to get it *remembers days of killing in Cyoren Forest with anmbia when the pet quest first came out* Its a lot better than it used to be... xD

ChaosAD
09-22-2008, 10:44 AM
Hmmm i tried this firewood thing today and i got 50 of them and decided to re-do the pet quest a second time.

I'd like to say something regarding the firewood and my pet guide. Until this manner rabbit thing is officially declared NOT a bug or a glitch by one of the GM's, i will not be adding this whole thing in my pet guide.

If it is indeed an intentional thing, then hurray for a slightly easier pet quest!

Nights_Fang
09-22-2008, 10:53 AM
This is NOT a bug!
Firstly, I ask you, the entirety of the forums and all players of SotS...

Has anyone ever even attempted this quest BEFORE this past Sunday?

I know I tried, and gave up. I honestly believed the only places to get firewood were from Guron/Hawgs/Hulao/Krapun... Apparently this was not the case. Does anyone realise WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS ALL ALONG??

This is no bug, but a matter of course. Oh, and also the quest IS COMPLETEABLE, however the manner is rather bugged, as you need to have 11 or more firewood in your inventory for the blacksmith to accept the 10 he wanted you to get. (REWARD: 3000 kron and 50 experience)

In my honest opinion, I like it this way, Solstice is starting to feel a bit more like it's parent Xenepic (where people have TENS of THOUSANDS of items in vendor windows). ^.^

Yes yes, people are "losing" money... but let us be realistic, what is money in this game? It's free, and plentiful, and easy to earn. Good day.

/Contemplate

EDIT: Added what the quest gave you for reward.

I did try out the quest once FWs were available as drops. It never worked.

justin_2006
09-22-2008, 12:18 PM
Since when did that Notice box up there on the screen appear when you collect a firewood? I've never seen that happen before. Or is it a new thing with the recent quest update? Quest items get that notice box thing when picked up now?

Yes, the same thing happens to other quest items like gleaming piece, hydrin, cloren, nitrine and ect.

maybe u can can get more ssfs this way as well??
there IS an ssf quest right?[other than pet quest]
maybe the drop rate will increase or sumthing with them?? ><
idk
but this shouldnt be a bad thing >...>
geeez why complain when u can get the stuff faster now?? as if u cant sell other things overpriced -.-

catry
09-22-2008, 12:20 PM
I like how the general consensus is one of two things:
1) It's bug and everyone's exploiting it so everyone's gonna get banned. For those of you thinking this, I have to say you are some of the worst people I've ever met for wanting to see everyone banned and jumping to conclusions that Outspark messed up and that people are senselessly exploiting a glitch. Why don't you people wait for an explanation before demanding that everyone gets banned? I bet half of you even jumped on the bandwagon anyway and went after firewood.
2) It's not a bug and firewood should be milked for all eternity. Again, Outspark hasn't stated anything about it yet. I don't blame you for jumping at the opportunity to profit big time, but there's no need to rub it in anyone's face or act like complete animals while trying to grab these items (rampant KS'ing, players killing random mobs and not leaving any for the people who are actually trying to level, etc.). Moreover, if this really turns out to be not a bug I bet the novelty of it will wear off once everyone has the firewood they need since firewood prices have now basically flatlined.
And if you're not in the above 2 boats I say the same thing still applies :D Like I say each time a massive argument of this sort breaks out (and no one ever seems to read) WAIT FOR A DAMN ANSWER FROM OUTSPARK BEFORE JUMPING ON EITHER BANDWAGON AND FLAMING THE @#!@%#@% OUT OF EACH OTHER because time and time again a GM makes an explanation and 1 side ends up looking entirely stupid. It's all fine to speculate and all but I can't help but be amused by how willing people are to jump on conspiracy theories and start flamewars over HEARSAY and THEORY.

stefito780
09-22-2008, 12:28 PM
~Psst noone will get banned, just take firewoods if ya want and have fun~xD

Nights_Fang
09-22-2008, 12:54 PM
Take firewoods, but please leave those poor lil' rookies some monsters to kill. Preferbally not the aggro ones.

TheCretz
09-22-2008, 12:54 PM
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The issue is under review right now and if it is confirmed as a bug, it will be fixed. We will post again when we have more information. Thank you once again for your patience in the matter.

Trashknight
09-22-2008, 12:57 PM
Good thing if we can get this FW-boom verified as legitimate or no.

AnimePimp66
09-22-2008, 12:58 PM
lol i hope this shaves of about 5 mill off pet prices on market as well :P

BellaAnimorum
09-22-2008, 01:28 PM
I did try out the quest once FWs were available as drops. It never worked.

So you are saying you FOR SURE tried killing Manner Rabbits and Toadmelters during the time you undertook that level 19 quest before this past Sunday?

Oh and for that matter, before this past Update?

Nights_Fang
09-22-2008, 01:34 PM
I took that quest as soon as FWs were implemented as drops (They came out around April-ish if I'm not mistaken) and farmed in every possible map that I could manage as a level 34 apprentice. Inclusive of the maps with the rabbits, buterflies and toadmelters. (The current monsters that now drop FWs) And no I didn't get any FW drops from those monsters. Safe to say that this has just been implemented. But in all honesty I think this one was intentional.

Sawars
09-22-2008, 02:09 PM
This is NOT a bug!
Firstly, I ask you, the entirety of the forums and all players of SotS...

Has anyone ever even attempted this quest BEFORE this past Sunday?

I know I tried, and gave up. I honestly believed the only places to get firewood were from Guron/Hawgs/Hulao/Krapun... Apparently this was not the case. Does anyone realise WE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO DO THIS ALL ALONG??

This is no bug, but a matter of course. Oh, and also the quest IS COMPLETEABLE, however the manner is rather bugged, as you need to have 11 or more firewood in your inventory for the blacksmith to accept the 10 he wanted you to get. (REWARD: 3000 kron and 50 experience)

In my honest opinion, I like it this way, Solstice is starting to feel a bit more like it's parent Xenepic (where people have TENS of THOUSANDS of items in vendor windows). ^.^

Yes yes, people are "losing" money... but let us be realistic, what is money in this game? It's free, and plentiful, and easy to earn. Good day.

/Contemplate

EDIT: Added what the quest gave you for reward.

Very well said ^^

ChaosAD
09-22-2008, 02:13 PM
Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The issue is under review right now and if it is confirmed as a bug, it will be fixed. We will post again when we have more information. Thank you once again for your patience in the matter.

To be honest i really do hope this isnt a bug. It actually makes the quests fun to do and makes this game start to feel like its cousin Xenepic. I like how the firewood is dropping for players of any level, not just low level players.

Farashimisanoob
09-22-2008, 02:19 PM
Because people are whiners!

Let us stop the Q_Qers!!

stefito780
09-22-2008, 02:48 PM
Yeah it was nice to have drops for everyone ^.^
I dunno if i should pm the GMs but that bug or whatever it is happens also with other items not only the firewood. o.O

shp4656
09-22-2008, 03:24 PM
AHHH, for heaven's XXXXing sake, I hope this doesn't happen to ssfs too !!!!

AnimePimp66
09-22-2008, 03:35 PM
oh god if it happens with them too ima have every pet !! weeee

bishop709
09-22-2008, 08:22 PM
I tried using the firewood in the quest, and it would not take them. Ugh. oh well.

Hilux
09-22-2008, 09:16 PM
Why is it taking so long for a GM to address this?

dylanangel
09-22-2008, 09:20 PM
Why is it taking so long for a GM to address this?

This has been addressed one page back. Outspark is aware of the issue and they are working on it. Please be patient :)


Thank you for bringing this to our attention. The issue is under review right now and if it is confirmed as a bug, it will be fixed. We will post again when we have more information. Thank you once again for your patience in the matter.

BellaAnimorum
09-23-2008, 01:15 AM
I tried using the firewood in the quest, and it would not take them. Ugh. oh well.

Oh, and also the quest IS COMPLETEABLE, however the manner is rather bugged, as you need to have 11 or more firewood in your inventory for the blacksmith to accept the 10 he wanted you to get. (REWARD: 3000 kron and 50 experience)

Here you go. ^.^

Dragonfly77
09-23-2008, 01:28 AM
Whaat?? I went there on my farmer and couldn't find any firewood...I fought rabbits and toads...even the butterflies...nothing....

is there some sort of prepartion thing you have to do first? Like accept a firewood quest in order to get them to drop??

Zeltar
09-23-2008, 01:33 AM
As indicated by Cretz's message, and in-game notices.
It is a bug, and will be fixed in wednesday's patch.

Dragonfly77
09-23-2008, 02:37 AM
As indicated by Cretz's message, and in-game notices.
It is a bug, and will be fixed in wednesday's patch.

Whaaaat!?!?!?! Nonononono! please!! Just wait a couple more days! At least until I get all the firewood I need!!! DX

*starts searching for a way to gather firewood asap*

Julia1
09-23-2008, 02:44 AM
Wouldent it be funny if they rolled it bacvk, and took away all this FW that came from the bug.
i know they must have accurate data records of everything when they do a maintence, as they knew exactly who had lost lvls when people de-lvld.
So what will people do if they make all this new FW vanish into thin air. Hahahaha

megaflcl
09-23-2008, 02:48 AM
Whaat?? I went there on my farmer and couldn't find any firewood...I fought rabbits and toads...even the butterflies...nothing....

is there some sort of prepartion thing you have to do first? Like accept a firewood quest in order to get them to drop??

accept the fw quest from the blacksmith first
sadly you can only hold 10 of the firewood at a time so after you farm 10 you must unload it in the hotel to get another 10

dylanangel
09-23-2008, 05:21 AM
I don't personally think it would be funny to have the FW disappear considering innocent people like myself who bought needed FW. I would be pretty angry to see my FW disappear and the person I bought it off of still have my krons that I paid them. I paid 2 million dollars and thats not a small amount.

machinist
09-23-2008, 05:56 AM
I don't personally think it would be funny to have the FW disappear considering innocent people like myself who bought needed FW. I would be pretty angry to see my FW disappear and the person I bought it off of still have my krons that I paid them. I paid 2 million dollars and thats not a small amount.

I second that emotion! I spent nearly 5million kron on fw, and was devastated to learn that it was someone leeching from a bug I wan't aware of :( I would be less than pleased if I was penalised, which I'm sure I/we won't anyway.

justin_2006
09-23-2008, 06:18 AM
I don't personally think it would be funny to have the FW disappear considering innocent people like myself who bought needed FW. I would be pretty angry to see my FW disappear and the person I bought it off of still have my krons that I paid them. I paid 2 million dollars and thats not a small amount.

O.o
i had this same idea.... that if they were to fix anything they might just reset all the fw ><
but thats a sorta strenchy theory to me.... but ya never kno :X

thrakx
09-23-2008, 07:05 AM
accept the fw quest from the blacksmith first
sadly you can only hold 10 of the firewood at a time so after you farm 10 you must unload it in the hotel to get another 10

or after you get 10, you can drop the ones you have, one-hit-kill one the rabbit, accept FW and pick up your pile again. I saw a scout with a pile of like 64 FW.

on another note, they didnt KNOW who lost lvls, if you recall they made ppl sign that theyd lost them. Im willing to bet theres almost NO way they could make the glitched drops disappear w/o taking away ALL the FW in the game.

AnimePimp66
09-23-2008, 07:14 AM
someone posted above that the glitch fw didnt even work does that mean that we will have abuncha ripoff woods in circulation now... fw reset dosnt sound so bad with that thought =o

thrakx
09-23-2008, 07:23 AM
well having examined both regular and these FWs i think they are the same. It would also be pretty complicated, i assume, to only have these ones not work, plus it would rip off everyone who bought FW from ppl for the pet quest. I mean say you had like 35 already, and you bought the other 15- you wouldnt be able to tell which were the original 35, and which were the purchased 15. This would make whole huge stashes of the item completely worthless. Not just the ones found recently. It would be a bad move.
This will even itself out in a month or so. All they gotta do is lower the drop rate a little bit for a few weeks.
People will sit on them and the dumb ones will sell them quick, now, and cheap to ppl who sit on them.

Darcaen
09-23-2008, 08:06 AM
on another note, they didnt KNOW who lost lvls, if you recall they made ppl sign that theyd lost them.
For the record, they did. I reckon the sign-up list was used to help make sure they are not forgetting someone.

ihuang
09-23-2008, 09:16 AM
lol i hope this shaves of about 5 mill off pet prices on market as well :P

About the pets decrease in price, i dont think that 5mil will be shaved off. Maybe 1 or 2mil tops. People are forgetting the time it takes and the limits of other materials. Think about it, if you have 1mil fw, but only 20leather,10wood, and all the other materials, how many pets can you make. Only 1, not 100 even though you have more fw to make more then 100. Since there are only a limit supply in leather, ssf, wood, butter, strawberries, etc and more people doing the pet quest, isnt it reasonable to assume that a massive increase in other materials is going to occur. Leather will start going from 150k to like 300k (i see people buying at 250k now). I have already seen people willing to pay a lot for wood and fairy powder. Therefore it will balanced out in the end. Expect to pay alot more for the other pet quest stuff. Unless everything from the pet quest start to fall, the prices of the pet will remain close to the same.

Propanol
09-23-2008, 10:22 AM
I found this drop boost also applies to Polluted Souls in the mythril mines. After accepting the quest of 2nd punitive force, you can obtain 60 PS's by only one hour AoE'ing.

Dragonfly77
09-23-2008, 09:48 PM
^That's interesting...

I've realized that this 'bug' pretty much applies to all quest items. You just have to know where to look.

I found two of the hotel manager's necklaces from butterflies. But the quest discription states 'snay cubs'? What are snay cubs anyway?

dylanangel
09-23-2008, 10:13 PM
Snay Cubs are white snakes found in Essene maps I believe East

ChaosAD
09-24-2008, 12:13 AM
The items for the Remasto Ring quest are also dropping easily like the firewood and the polluted souls. The Halloween Moonbears 2 maps south of Candyvault drops all 3 items needed for the quest one after the other. However when you go to hand in the items to make the ring, he doesnt recognise that you have the items.

Either the quest is broken again or these "easy drops" as i've started calling them, are bugged and not acceptable by the quests.

Dragonfly77
09-24-2008, 12:32 AM
polluted souls are dropping from holloween bears!?!?!? GMs!! Of all the bugs in this game, don't fix this one! XD

Nights_Fang
09-24-2008, 01:24 AM
No, no he didn't mean that at all. Polluted souls are mines lvl 2 exclusive drops -_-

katsur
09-24-2008, 01:35 AM
how much are FW now selling for?

BellaAnimorum
09-24-2008, 09:32 AM
The items for the Remasto Ring quest are also dropping easily like the firewood and the polluted souls. The Halloween Moonbears 2 maps south of Candyvault drops all 3 items needed for the quest one after the other. However when you go to hand in the items to make the ring, he doesnt recognise that you have the items.

Either the quest is broken again or these "easy drops" as i've started calling them, are bugged and not acceptable by the quests.

Nero, I only found Gleaming Pieces from the bears... do you need to collect all the GP before the Solid Fuels and Training Stones drop from them?

nonstopreaper
01-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Nero, I only found Gleaming Pieces from the bears... do you need to collect all the GP before the Solid Fuels and Training Stones drop from them?

yes collect all the Training stone and Gleam then they will start dropping Solid fuel pieces. So it goes Training stone first( depending on how many you got in your inventory) if you already have 10 training stone then bears will start dropping GP ect ect. so once you hit the amount of item you need for that quest it will start dropping the other. Same goes for hydrins, cloren, and hellyn from lipigs.