Teva Price Sucks

[pielover]

oki have seen +4s at 2silver999c and i want to kill people who do this i have also seen 15c for old dusts omfg that is overpriced and for elrue makers in alpoline and teva this cause HUGE probs cause no1 will sell them dusts and insted these peeps with dust sell them for 10c each!

[Semaj]

man, ive just been NPC'ing most things since the prices are crap to sell to other players. except my friends or people i know, then ill sell items for cheap (or just trade) but ya. I cant even get rid of my elrue for 35c.
though i have to admit, i got a GREAT deal from some noob on lv 20 bless armor, he must have got it in a KQ or a drop...seriously bout it for 500c lol

[Dakkon]

I agree I have seen some of the over priced goods for sale out there. But you have to realize, EVERY MMORPG establishes its own economy. This is the 1st server for this game, so standard prices are being established. One thing you can do is set the prices for what YOU feel will be fair. If it is lower than the average price ppl will go to you.

Also remember people can ask whatever price they want for an item, but unless some one is will to PAY it, the item is worthless.

Just think about your economics classes.

Dakkon

[Semaj]

Just think about your economics classes.

Dakkon

i dont know how many of the people playing this game has even had economy yet lol. very true, but im not patient enough to sit with my vendor open for hours on end hoping to sell something. and with enchanting being so hard not many people are buying elrue....and thats the main source of income for my char..at this moment everyone's pretty broke it seems, will prob get better once more people are higher levels and have more time between buying skills/equipment to actually save money for items...

[MewMewLina]

Dakkon also forgot to mention the supply and demand issue. As there are more people, things like first tier drops will sell very good as people fight over who gets to buy the meat, leather, or dust.

[Semaj]

yup, thats why material comp and decomp will come in handy :)

[Vivi575]

I once found a shop that sold the dusts for 1C each. I er... kinda bought them all XD

I usually buy them at 4C, you know set up a buying store. It works well enough, especially when you set it up near the Roumen entrance.

Though I can't seem to get rid of my Lix -_-'

[Kitysedai]

Ok Dakkon I understand what you are saying.... I think the issue though is some people are just being stupid. Vendors that say sell dust for 35c (or more O.O) are just clogging up the street more. 20s for a lvl 8 +3 bow or staff????? I mean COME ON! People are greedy, and prices are going to be all over the place for a while, but get real guys. No one is going to buy tough meat for 50c or more... yes I have seen that, all I can do is shake my head and wonder how long they have been sitting in that vendor (afk for hours at least). I now npc majority of my items, but when i do set up a vendor I try to sell cheaper than the lowest price I see because I dont want to sit there all day. I still make a profit so it works both ways. 20c for hp/sp pots and they sell in a few minutes, vendor done. Sorry Im ranting on this one, because it took me 3 days to find a lvl 20+3 top for my cleric that wasnt 15s or more.... bad enough skills cost so much ugggg lol.And now I have to do it all over again because my archer is going to be 20 all too soon oO
Stop being greedy folks, people wont pay outrageous prices when they can walk 3 feet and find it 90% cheaper..... And most people cant afford the prices so the stuff wont sell regardless.

[Deedolith]

There are always greedy people around, who sell at overprices or buy at underprices.
Just don't buy / sell from them. Alas, there are always clueless people to buy / sell to them.
On the other hand, there are people who sell at underprices and buy at overprices.

[TastyTapioca]

You can talk all you want about the economics of things but remember, unless you or someone else buys those high prices things... they'll never sell. If they do? More power to them for making a few extra copper.

Supply and Demand depending on the items in question, as there are those who may want them at any cost, immediately.

[xxkurtxx]

oki have seen +4s at 2silver999c and i want to kill people who do this i have also seen 15c for old dusts omfg that is overpriced and for elrue makers in alpoline and teva this cause HUG probs cause no1 will sell them dusts and insted these peeps with dust sell them for 10c each!

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[hersh1]

well where u find greedy ppl u also might find the acational ppl who dont kno the right price andsell for much less than suggested. i bought a +6 lv 15 club for my alt cleric for 2s XD and i was happy, i also bought a +6 lv 15 bow for my main for 3s, 500c. good deals when u see most of ppl being greedy trying to make 9s off of soemthing thats not even worth like 50c at npc. but the elrue and mats r kidna rediculess i have seen elrues go for 100c and ppl r stupid enough to buy 1 or 2, then materials like u say before go for too much also. one thing i think that ppl overprice weps is casue when they have more + they believe its took more money to get it there, but msot ppl sell the +6 from getting from a event such as a kq. ive neverr seen a +6 from a kq drop for me yet which is kinda bs when u have done the mara quest about 14 or 15 times. then when u find ppl selling green name weps like a lv 20 bow lets say. i was in elderine and a guy was selling a king marlone i believe its aclled for 30s. of course it had nice stats liek +10 str +6 Dex +8 int +9 spr but it had kno upgrades and a normal bow fomr npc at lv 20 is 5s and 700c. so u r talking about overpricing buy at least 15s-20s. but thats what every game has is greedy ppl that will spend a week trying to sell soemthing that will most likely not sell unless u find ppl who buy silver from those USD for silver websites. nothing a gm can do about these ppl (greedy ppl) casue they arnt doing anything like hacking or spamming continuosly. but thats the end of a long speech XD srry if it kina long jsut gettin it out of way that there r greedy ppl and some occasional sencless.:)

[MyYing]

how about every1 jus sale for w/e they want to sale for problem solved ^.- b

[Kitysedai]

They basically already do and thats half the problem.... 50c or more for dust? No one will buy that and then you have a vendor sitting there endlessly just making a little more lag. I think the original reason for this topic was so people might get a clue and stop charging stupidly for stuff. But it probably wont make much difference, was just an idea.

[TastyTapioca]

I wouldn't worry. I just set up shop next to them and let them see the difference. I rarely charge past 10c for basic mats as it is.

[AtOmicDooM]

Pobres!!!!!

[XiiaoM3nG]

Hey, cant help but getting interested in this post, so here is my 2copper worth of thoughts.
I get pissed at a particular bunch of traders, who is out to scam new comers in their store, like promising to buy drops like summoned leathers for 250 in their title, yet placed 5c in their shops. Why is that so? Because if each item is 5c, the total amount for the particular 50 piece slot will be 250 exactly, and lots of new comers, who is not familiar with the user interface, will just happy happy sell their items, and realise that their copper doesnt match.

[XiiaoM3nG]

Above is just 1 of the scenario. Imagine people who offered 50c for drops, yet placed 1c for everything so the total amount of that particular slot shows 50? Disgusting.

[Kyuuto]

The prices are ok when you are at high lvl, you will find the prices cheap at around lvl 45+ ^^

[bionical2k]

the basics are this
if something low qual such as dusts and meat or leather sell to an NPC for 3 Copper then doubling ur buying price is good so maybe to buy at 5 to 8 copper is reasonable. since 2 meat and i think a spirit fruit makes 1 hp pot then if u buy the mats at 6 copper each or to make it simple,
6 x 3 = 18 copper u then need to think about making a profit and 20 copper is not a profit worth considering. 35 copper is as u can then make even more, almost twice the amount and that was the norm price in CB1 and 2. even if bottom standard is 30 copper.
the fact is if everyone was selling at that price then access to these things would make it easier for ppl to obtain what they need but also help the vendor to make some money.

selling dusts at 1 copper each? i bought 150 of them and then went straight to vendor and sold for 3 copper. ur loss on the extra 2 copper per dust that i made by buying them off u. shud have sold them for 6 to max 10 c each

IGN MorDread
Cl@ss HighCleric
lvl 45

selling a lvl 8 wep for 45s? give me a break guys. u kill the economy and destroy the fun in the game to what it was in CB or the Korean

[michaeljob]

What about making an auction house to stabilize prices. Meaning that a centralized store is made.

[demented_demon]

An auction house type system might work way better than the current system of vendoring in your shroom. There's like 100 open right now in elderine and it gets worse by the day like some sort of fungal infection on top of elderine.

[tingrui22]

The prices r totally not fair..reason is people selling thier gds are selling at crazy prices and buyers r buying things at superb low prices..ok i make an example...old dusts(all kinds) sells for 4c in shop...some ppl buy for 4c and some buys for 5c (it depends on the player) so during CB2,it was regconized that everyone wants to earn a profit..and average price is 5c..but now..i sell dusts for 5c i can hardly get people to buy...

Reasons are:
1)They r trying to look for noobs selling for like 1c or 2c (taking advantage)
2)Thinking that it is way over expensive(new players r super confused with item prices only CB players know)


GM's pls help these ppl to educate abt prices...maybe open a teva server common items price list and also pls ban this person called Ichig0 he did one of the worst offences in merchant..he buys all the mid grade items(beast leather,tender meat,crude leather)all these for only 10c and his shop is in roumen he did this because new player dunno the price of mid grade items (it cost abt 65c+ varies for different items) and they may get some when they reached abt lvl 10..

Another problem with the merchants right..are the lumps..these really caused loads of chaos to newbies in roumen few people set up thier vendors buying copper lumps from 25c-50c then newbies though that since shop sell everything is so less then copper lump must have no value and landed up in the vendors...and newbies lose a lot of money and what the vendors do??earning all throw in the NPC's and get thier profits...i see people doing this from morning till night (afkers) because lumps r rare and very hard to collect..

[TastyTapioca]

I need curiosity sated if possible, did anyone find out what those copper lumps are good for?

[Zolta]

Right now, my storage is full of materials I kept because I dont know a thing about all of the prices. Is there any guide around, or a trick like for example 2 times the npc value? Or is anyone so kind to give me a list of the most common items untill like lvl 20. Would be much appreciated...

[TastyTapioca]

Right now, my storage is full of materials I kept because I dont know a thing about all of the prices. Is there any guide around, or a trick like for example 2 times the npc value? Or is anyone so kind to give me a list of the most common items untill like lvl 20. Would be much appreciated...


That would depend on the types of material you have. LQ, Regular, and HQ are the three types I know of.

Each has their own use and purpose in various aspect of the game: from quests, to decomp skill, to creation of scrolls/potions/stones.

LQ stuff is used a great deal in creation of beginning (tier 1) stuff. Regulars are used mostly for decomp (to make Tier 1 stuff) and in creation of Tier 2 stuff. HQ, I am not that far into creation/decomping yet. Hope some of this helps.

[jpea18]

though i have to admit, i got a GREAT deal from some noob on lv 20 bless armor, he must have got it in a KQ or a drop...seriously bout it for 500c lol

So THAT IS HOW U MADE UR FORTUNE my friend, LMAO, just kidding... haha... Economy just wont be like it used to be at CB :o.

[joedoe]

Seeking advantage from newcomers to the game.
buying low price and sell in store cause newcomer doesn't know how to do it...
that's very smart but thanks for posting it to warn everybody.
i'll make a special effort to teach newcomers in the game about this thing being done.
no hard fellings.

Respect and peace!

[XiiaoM3nG]

When i see the vendors scamming noobs out of those items/coppers stated above, especially in roumen, i feel damm pissed just like you guys as well. But i have something to state.

Firstly, The "scammers" have absolute right to do that, its not against the rule to scam or buy things at a lower price, its all about getting to know the game better. No pain, no gain. I seriously doubt the Gms will do anything about this, because its not against the law, neither is it against any rules and regulations. So instead of throwing the scammers in jail, we got to teach the players to be more smarter, and seriously speaking, we throw 10 in jail, 10 more spring up, whats the use?

Secondly. The people posting for this thread, as i can see, are really concern about this "Scamming buisness". But i notice that all we ever do is to complain, state what is happening, complain again. Lets do something more constructive. Instead of stating the obvious, lets state solutions, and ideas. Brainstorm on how to overcome such things as players, and not sought GM help everytime we run into a wall.

Thirdly. For people who read my second point, this is a few suggestions to get the idea running. We can :
1st) Have a leader in this project, who is willing devote and spearhead this "newbies ignorance to market rate" thing.
2nd) Come out with a compiled guide on how much things should cost, in terms of materials, and items database. ( Not NPC rate, but player's reasonable ratings)
3rd) Create a fansite, with a database on items, and scrolls, etc etc, Price range, levels, and whatever stats there is, than redirect the newcomers with questions to that site, telling them to read before you sell.


Fourthly, Of course, more suggestions are welcome, or you can just take me as a entirely crapping person who doesnt know what he is talking about.

Fiftly, sorry for all the grammer and spelling mistakes. Adios!

[Zolta]

That would depend on the types of material you have. LQ, Regular, and HQ are the three types I know of.

Each has their own use and purpose in various aspect of the game: from quests, to decomp skill, to creation of scrolls/potions/stones.

LQ stuff is used a great deal in creation of beginning (tier 1) stuff. Regulars are used mostly for decomp (to make Tier 1 stuff) and in creation of Tier 2 stuff. HQ, I am not that far into creation/decomping yet. Hope some of this helps.

uhm.. yeah but thats not quite what i asked for ^^. I need to know more about the material prices. How much copper/silver everything costs. And prices from elrue and such. I'm not one of those idiots who sells his stuff way overpriced xD