FINNALY! An archer guide.

[Chriszed]

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Hello I'm Chriszed. Yes I know Introductions are pointles. BUT DON'T SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE. Why? Because this is one of the first Archer guides. And I want to Make my point clear. Ok. I know I'm a noob. I was only lvl 25 in CB and am now lvl 20. But that doesn't matter. Sure there are higher lvl archers than me. But does that matter. NO! They don't care. They probally don't even post in the Archer forum. Listen if you go to the Cleric, Fighter, or Mage Section. You'll see tons of guides tons of posts tons of people helping other people. What do you see here. People complaining about how Archers SUCK! Well, I WANT TO START AN ARCHER REVOLUTION!


It won't take a genius to know that Archers are underpowered. But when used correctly an
Archer will be able to pwn anyone and anything. Sure they lack the Dmg of a Mage, The Defence of a Fighter, And the sheer invincibility of a Cleric. But they have one thing the other classes don't have. Evasion. People will say CHRIS YOUR CRAZY. But evasion is good. Perhaps it's better than good. In the First part of this guide i will show how effective an Archer can be in a party. So without further ado here's Chapter 1.


CHAPTER 1

People point out that Archers are leeches. They only stay in a party to steal exp. NOT TRUE. When an archer is used properly they kick ***! I hope you other classes are reading because here's why an Archer is invaluable to a party.

MOVE #1- RAIN AND PAIN

Archers get the skill multi shot at lvl 20. So what. Look at it like this. At lvl 20 they also get nature's protection.(decreases agro) These two moves are brothers. HECK! EVEN MORE! In a party. Lets say you were killing orange monsters. You had a Cleric, Warrior, Mage, and Archer. Let's say around 5 charged at you. The rest of the party are focusing on one person. The fighter is going to spam taunt, the cleric is going to heal, and the Mage is going to attack whatever the tank is attacking. Whats the archer doing. Probably the same as the Mage. This is what the battle would look like: The warrior in the middle of the monsters, Archer behind him, Mage, then Cleric.


Okay. That looks pretty basic. The cleric in the back Tank in the middle of the guys, Archer not too far from tank and Mage in between Cleric and Archer. Let say the Mage uses an AoE move. The skeleton will charge at the Mage. Kill him. Got to Cleric and kill him. Then the party is gone. But lets say the Archer AoE's. He can multi shot then right after use natures protection. That means the monsters get hurt but still attack the Warrior. If the fight lasts long enough do it again.(you can also do this with nature's mist)

MOVE #2- POISON POP.

Well this is another variation of the Rain and pain. Same setup but lets say they were fighting only 4 monsters. This time instead of arrow rain the Archer uses his poisons on one monster. And on the way adds some Aimed and Power shots. When the monster comes he runs towards the tank and uses nature's protection. Now when your skills recharge continuously attack the monster with power shot, followed by nature's protection. That monster will be dead very soon.

MOVE #3- QUICK SAVE.

Now lets say the party is in trouble. And needs time to recover from a monster attacking the Cleric. But there is still 3 monsters remaining. Pull the monster that no one is attacking. Run into a save area with lots of tree or other obstructions around them. Run through them. Occasionally shoot the monster to regain agro. When your party is ready use Nature's Protection then run towards the tank. DON'T CUT THROUGH THE PARTY. The monster will attack the closest person other than you. What if you got the Mage or the Cleric. That whole thing was pointless.

Move #4- AGRO ATTACK.

Say you really need to kill a monster FAST. Simply use these moves in THIS ORDER.
1. Power shot
2. Aimed shot
3. Bone shot
4. Fury impact
4.5. Multi shot.(only if you wont hit any monsters.)
5. Other damage skills.
6. Natures protection.

That should take out a very large chunk of the monster HP while still sending it back to the tank.

Move #5- MAGE MAYHEM.

This requires a suicidal Mage. And I mean only one out 100 Mages will agree to do this. Pull a monster with your poisons. Then tell your Mage to hit him with their best spells. When he's done pull the monster with AIMED SHOT FIRST. Then your other moves. If you got 2 clerics one should heal you. If not use pots and stones. When all your moves cooldown do the same
thing. Continue it but i doubt it will last long.

Those are 5 moves right now an Archer can pull off in a party. Showing how effective an Archer can be in a party. Almost all of them Require you to use nature's protection. SO GET THIS SKILL. There are two ways. One from the quest. The other from fame. Do whatever you want though i suggest the quest so you can save your fame and get some good exp.

CHAPTER 2

Now the reason I put the party section first is so that other classes will read it and then know how effective an Archer is in a party. Now Time for the solo part.

All the Gm's say that later on Archers will rock. I believe them 100%. But they can still rock. Even at lvl 20! Here are some tricks to help you lvl up while soloing!

MOVE #1- COVER CANNON

No. You don't need to play a shooting game to use cover. In fact cover in this game is really effective. Lets say you are killing Joker Kebings in Sea of Greed. There is that forest right beside where they spawn right. Now what you want to do is click on the monster. Make sure you have to shoot through about 2 trees. The trick here is actually a glitch. YOU can shoot through the tree's but the KEBBING has to go around. See. You can get an extra 2-3 shots before it gets to you. Enough to kill it.

MOVE #2- KITING KILLER

Kiting is in almost every game. And it's very straight forward. I only recommend this on maps where there is an open field. Now remember Archer kiting is different than Mage kiting! In Mage kiting you would run attack run attack run attack... But for an Archer First start like this. Use Your Highest damaging move, with the longest range. Then poisons. Then highest damaging move. Now run. Run until your move cooled down. Now turn and kill the monster. This is good if your trying to save pots. Also not that if a monster misses you or you dodge the monster is stunned for a couple seconds. Nature's protection also stuns them for a couple seconds. Also Criticals do. Although they may not work all the time!

Now those are the two basic moves you need to know when soloing. Now I'm sure in later lvls you get better skills and wont need to use these but they are still very good to know and master.

CHAPTER 3

For skill empowering it's pretty simple.

Aimed shot-Power, Cooldown
Power shot-Power, Cooldown
Fury Impact-Cooldown
Bone Shot- Cooldown

Those are the only moves recommend so far. Now I haven't seen any more moves so I can't tell. Power shot and Aimed shot are a must. Sp consumption is pretty good but not neccesary. And i don't really recommend the posions. Wait till your a higher lvl.

[Chriszed]

CHAPTER 4

Finally you were looking for a guide to make the perfect archer build. Well I already posted a guide on that so let me just copy and paste.

An Archer basically need 3 or 4 stats. They don't need INT because they
don't use magic. END and DEX will decide your DEF and STR and SPR will
decide your damage. So i decided to compare them.


DEX VS. END

Some people say to put some points in END. I personally don't recommend
END. I say put them in DEX. Why? Because you also get up your aim and
use less money on pots. Because with DEX you dodge more so you don't
lose any HP. Put

it this way. Would you rather get hit more often but lose less HP OR
get hit less often but loss alot of HP. But a bonus with DEX is you get
aim and will hit the enemy more. Also i would like to add every lvl you
get around 3 points on DEX automatically. Plus rings are good if you
really want some END. So in conclusion DEX over END but you could have
some points in END if you feel you need them.



DEX IS THE WINNER.


STR VS. SPR

Well SPR is a main stat and every archer should have some. Although no more than 25 points. As after that it starts to suck. Now Archers have the highest crit rate already with that extra SPR... BOOH YAH! Now everyone will Argue saying STR is better for general damage. So if i say STR is better SPR archers will wine at me, and if i say STR is better
SPR archer's will wine at me. So...



IT'S A TIE!



Stat Descriptions

STR- Increases damage.

DEX- Increases aim and evasion. (MAIN)

END- Increases HP and def.

SPR- Increases M. defense, crit %, and max SP.(MAIN)



What Archer are you?

What Archer do you wanna be. Do you wanna kite? Do you wanna be able to
solo? Party? Or KQ? Do you wanna be a damage dealer or have good DEF.
Do you wanna pvp or pve more. Answer these question and it will help
you decide what builds to be.



Builds

Here are a list of builds I have found or made. (You can add to them if you want.)



My Build.

1:3 DEX: SPR This is my build for my archer. It suits my playing
style well. The reason i have good dmg and evasion. I also have good
aim. I have enough SP so i can use my skills alot and i do crit often.

Main Build.

1:1 DEX: SPR This build does focus on your two main stats and it's very good. But really put all your points into SPR until you have 25 then the rest into dex.

Basic Build.

1:1 STR: DEX. This is the generic build for any archer. It focuses on an archers damage and evasion.. Although later on in the 30's I suggest
some SPR.



Party Build.

2:2:1 STR: SPR: DEX. Why is this party. Because it allows for good
damage and good aim. Making you a good damage dealer. If you do end up
soloing with this prepare for alot of pots and stones.



Solo build.

2:2:1 DEX: STR: END. This is a good solo build because it has good DEF
and good damage. And you won't need alot of pots and stones.



Damage build.

3:3:1 STR: SPR: DEX. This is also a good pvp build because you maximize damage. Enough said.



Defense build.

1:1 DEX: END. Don't really recommond this. It has it's uses in pvp and does help in pve. It maximizes DEF.



All those builds are useful in pvp and pve. I just highlighted it's main purpose. You should also mix and match them to suit your playing style.



Professions

Scroll Production: I recommend for the buffs you get. Also good for money.

Potion Production: A great profession for the archer as you get lots of potions that heal good and can sell for alot.

Stone Production: Probably the best profession for money.



I don't recommend any other professions. But it's your call.

That was taken directly from How to decide YOUR archer's build.

Those are some of the basic Archer Builds. But really the only way you can mess up your Archer is full INT ;P.


CHAPTER 5

What should i go Crossbow or Bow? This is a dying question asked by so many archers. Well it really is all in preference. The Crossbow is better if you like to spam skills, while bow is better if you like to save SP, and kite. The reason is a bow does more damage over time with regular attack, while crossbow does more damage with skills. So if you like to spam skills go Crossbow if you like to do more damage without skills, and kite go Bow. It really is in your play style.

CHAPTER 6

We're almost at the end of the guide. And here's where i list the Pro's and Con's of an Archer. Why do i put this at the end. Because people just look at the Pro's and Con's of a class and decide. But now they know how they play and can make their decision.

PRO'S

- VERY HIGH Evasion. Why is Evasion so good? Ah I'm going to know answer your question you've been asking this entire time. Well lets see. If a Warrior were to get hit and it does 150dmg. Lets say he gets hit 5 times while fighting a guy. Thats 750 DMG! Now lets say an Archer get hit 5 time with 200dmg. THATS 1000! But lets say the archer dodges 3 of the hits. Thats only 400dmg. Now do you see my point.
- Medium HP and SP
- Lots of poison skill
- Good AoE skills
- Good Damage
- High aim
- Ranged
- Looks cool
- Highest Crit %

CON'S

- Low def.
- Hard to Master
- Uses a lot of potions
- Average weapons
- Underpowered

Well that's my guide. I hope you learned something and now decide to add Archers to your party's or learned how to improve your skills. I'm keeping a contribution section. Post your idea's here and ill add them.

CONTRIBUTIONS

LEVEL 1-20 by: Chriszed

Waiting to get to lvl 20 so you can own just like this guide shows. Well I'm here to show you how to lvl up and where to train. I hope you have read the solo section. Because I will refer back to it.

Now you just made a character. Where do you train. What do you do? Well first things first talk to elemental helper Remi. She will give you the quest and all that stuff. Next do quests around town they give you your Armor. After that you should do KQ's they will lvl you up the fastest. I recommend training in

1-3 Roumen
3-6 Forest of tides
7-12 Sand beach
13-16 Forest of mist
17-20 Sea of greed.

Those maps are most suited for Archers. Now when you start up you should get all the moves available to you. I recommend you empower Aimed and power shot. Because these are your two main damaging moves. If you want to kill monsters fast use moves in this order

1. Aimed shot
2. Bone shot
3. Fury impact
4. Power shot

That should take out a monster pretty quick. You also should kite if you feel the need to.

When training in Sea of greed i recommend using cover. There should be lots of trees by the north near elderine. In party's I recommend you spam skills. Before you decide to hit lvl 20 you need about 12 silver. 2 silver to get pots and scrolls for the lvl up quest, and 10 silver for your multi shot, and armor. Only buy the armor from players. There is usually a shop around the blacksmith that sells it. Don't buy your weapon it's the reward from the quest. Good luck!

PvP GUIDE By: Chriszed

People are always wanting to know how an Archer plays against other Classes. Well thankfully I have PvPed. And it's good. But here's how I stack up to the other classes.

Warrior- He can sit there pounding at me. But really if they don't use Sword and Shield you will win. The reason I dodge so much It unbelievable. If you are going to kite then be prepared to get stunned.

Mage- Archers are mage killers. And you can tell. If you see a Mage go to your maximum range. And fire. When he gets close power shot him.

Cleric- They are invincible. They have one weakness though. Melee. I recommend you kite them a little but turn around and crit power and aimed shots. They dead!

Archer- Wow. I've only faced one and it's really who dodges and who crits.

Now lets start with just a solo(no parties.) Who do you attack? Who kills you? Who do you kill? Okay the main reason to tell someone's lvl is their Armor and Hp/Sp. The two classes you have a higher chance of killing is the warrior and mage. If you see a mage running around spamming skills. BINGO! He will probably not see you but will see the arrows. He quickly uses a Stone. Got him right where you want him spam all your skills show no mercy.

Against a fighter well kiting won't save you. So its best to hit him with all you got then run wait for the cooldown and just face him. If he's locked in mellee combat don't worry just kill him.

Archer and Cleric follow the same guidelines.

In a party of you a Cleric and a Fighter. It's simple let the fighter tank while Cleric heals and you attack. People should die quickly but if ANYONE runs towards you the fighter should stun. Plain and simple.

Sorry for being so short I've only done like 5 guild wars and am still a low lvl.

TANKING AS AN ARCHER By: Chriszed

An Archer can tank okay. If you do get stuck doing it then here are some tips. You pull the monster. DO NOT use aimed shot. Why? It will give you agro. A good tip is if you see miss above you head run through the monster. Because miss stuns the monster for a second or so. If the monster is near death and so are you use nature's protection. Then spam skills. So some tips I have are:

-Always pull
-Save Aimed Shot
-See miss run through monster
-Nature's protection if near death.

[Eiviped]

It looks great, but would you mind adding a chapter involving lv.1-20 as well instead of skipping those levels?

[Chriszed]

Sure if you want.

[Boster112]

Archers Rule!

[Fidelma]

Yes please do. Your guide makes no sense at this time to me - a total noob! Thanks for taking the time to do this.

[Boster112]

Im a nub too so it would be helpful!

[Chriszed]

I did it's in the contribution section.

[aufgegeben]

Thx for this helpfull guide :> <3

[Chriszed]

Thx for this helpfull guide :> <3

Thanks. That took me about 2 hours to write.

[hersh1]

i am sure this will help alot of new archers xD too bad i didnt have 1 when i joined :(

[Chriszed]

You could just make one and uber pwn with all the stuff i told ya? JOIN THE REVOLUTION!

[Arcre]

Thanks, It is a impressive guide! Even though I knew most to them =)

[tonyyvo]

you might wanna put a LITTLE END into ur buiild. IMO, when you go on mara kq, sometimes mara and marlone runs at you, and actually get a hit on you. Since your HP is usually 450-500 around lvl 20 or so, you'll die with one hit. I put in +5 END and it helped me a lot in this case. Also, like the guide stated, rings would help you in this situation also. Other than that, I totally agree on the guide good job!

[weiishengg]

can u teach me how to add skill for archer ?

[tonyyvo]

first u need to go to the skill master and look at the skills. if u meet all the required specs, then you right click the skill ONCE. then, you x out the skill master box and your item box. reopen the item box and right clik on your skill. Once that is done, u hit K on youir keyboard and u left clcik and move to the shorcuts on the bottom. have fun and kill things with your new skill =)

[Chriszed]

I really hate when people don't know anything about the game. READ THE GAME GUIDE IN THE GUIDE SECTION! Sorry i don't mean to be rude.

[Duel_blade]

i got a lv 31 archer and let me say WE PWN hard!!! but my build is stupid tho its 15:15:5
STR END SPR im working on SPR for the next lvs tho 40 its my own hybid and with my build xbow is a must i kill things lots fatser ands able to tank for myself

Look for scoop!! =)

[fundude93]

1000 years ago, when the land was full of bad hygiene and boar hunting, archers were seriously powerful. On top of high walls, they were nearly invincible to regular warriors. Plus if they put some burning pitch on the arrow, and a barrel of explosive material was lying around......BOOOOOM!!!!!!

Plus you can pick off invading armies from a distance, too:)

[Duel_blade]

i was thining the same thing XD insted of boost give us flaming arrows
just think about it youll love it ^^

[krazyboi]

another build would b 25spr till +25 and then str the rest of but i havn compared it to other archers so i dont kno if its good or not

GO ARCHERS :D

[Chriszed]

Well it may be good but the damage you do isn't signifigant. And i just realized this but if you did 100 dmg for a crit. Then an extra 10 STR would mean you did 124 for a crit. now in higher levels with more DMG and more Str. Think about it.

[silverfater]

isn't the chapter 3 same as what it use to be on fiesta wiki, during the fiesta cb1 or cb2?

[Sephorith]

Wow man that is a really good guide. Good, good, very good job. I have a lvl 21 archer, but soloing got to be a real pain, so i made a fighter. Im going to come back to him later though. Good job on the guide.

[Chriszed]

isn't the chapter 3 same as what it use to be on fiesta wiki, during the fiesta cb1 or cb2?

Yes but i reworded it, and explained it a little more. =)

[weiishengg]

first u need to go to the skill master and look at the skills. if u meet all the required specs, then you right click the skill ONCE. then, you x out the skill master box and your item box. reopen the item box and right clik on your skill. Once that is done, u hit K on youir keyboard and u left clcik and move to the shorcuts on the bottom. have fun and kill things with your new skill =)

i ask for adding skill . not buy skill . -,-

[tonyyvo]

i thought that was the same thing...do u mean adding skill points??

[Chriszed]

oh power shot and aimed shot.

[belias]

nice guide if you add some suggestions for empowering skills in it ;)

[Masamunevn]

sr i want to ask some ques,when i empowering aimed shot (1) So if i learn aimed shot (1) it was empowered same aimed shot 1 or i need point to empower it

[Chriszed]

ok i think you mean if you buy aimed shot(1) and you empower it the power will transfer to aimed shot(2) To answer your question yes.

[Masamunevn]

okay thanks u and what sever are u playing now?can u help me?i build full spr from 1 to 25(build 1:1 dex spr)so how train fast?yellow mos or green

[Chriszed]

Im on teva.

[Masamunevn]

really do u have YM,can i have it okie?

[djfizzle]

This guide is pretty amazing for us Archers, but I have a few questions still. #1) I was thinking about doing a build where I get +25 SPR first but then ad STR and END but no DEX since we get a big DEX boost when we level and our Evasion skill (Passive) increase our evasion (I think aim as well not sure thouogh). Would this be good or would I be screwed in the long run? #2) So I'm lv 19 now and almost lv 20. I was wondering which weapon is better in the long run? I read somewhere that a bow is better if u want to kill with normal attacks, crossbow is better if you want to kill with skills. Is this true?

[Chriszed]

Yes i said that in my guide. Remember i'm adding stuff like every week. Oh and i have a question should i post my guide in the guide forums?

[IXeroI]

yeah man , i was starting an archer , and was really comtemplating deep on either pure STR , or 25SPR then pure STR , i lose a chunk of damage, but more crits , personally i love crits , but love damage, very hard to choose!

[Chriszed]

The one with SPR.

[Lost_Sign]

I am a new member =P noob at this game but i chose archer coz its kinda cool to me.But since i haven't DL/ed the game yet can i try 2:2:2 DEX:SPR:END as solo instead of 3:3:1DEX:SPR:END?

Correct me if i am wrong...

[MonkE67]

my build is 8:4:1 spr:str:end
not so good for tanking, but does good damage and awsome for crits
is that ok?

[Chriszed]

Well i say the str is not good. Just get 25 Spr then do whatever you want.

[MonkE67]

understood:)

[ToshiroKun]

I put +2 (power) points onto multi shot... I'm thinking of rigging it by (Reducing cool down, Reducing Mana Cost and Upgrade Power). Do you think it's worth it? Because... Isn't it helpful in parties if you can hit a majority of things? With nature's protection / mist and etc?

[Chriszed]

Well no. Because later you get natures mist witch is better! IMO

[Rzpect]

i would use poison shots first and then the 2 power shots that will kill the monster wayyy faster....i am a lvl 44 archer so this is my guide when i solo with harkens or harkans ( in CP) i use venom,fury, and bone (poison shots) and then run for around 5sec and then i use my 2 power shots.. to kill it =] hey it does work and faster and all i need is 1 Hp stone per harkan

[Chriszed]

Well i say no to that. Why? Because those are instant casts. So it will take you longer to kill something if you use aimed shot. Aimed always first!

[Sheizou_Marizou]

Can I just raise the following question?

Where can I get a stat reset point?

[Chriszed]

Probally a cash shop item.

[belias]

i talked to a gm about it: atm there is NO possibility to get a statresetpoint. i guess that includes events as well. so try to live with it or remake ur char. i have one char who is in the same situation :(

[Rzpect]

Well i say no to that. Why? Because those are instant casts. So it will take you longer to kill something if you use aimed shot. Aimed always first!

and wat lvl are u..try solo a harkan when u reach 44 and sue my techinque and then use urs. compare them

[Chriszed]

Sorry didn't mean to imply. But I'm saying that .5 seconds wasted. But I'm not 40. But if your in Uruga can you post all the new moves Archers get please! =( *Puts new puppy up to the computer screen.

[Symphoni]

can some add leveling guide to 20-30?

[Rzpect]

Sorry didn't mean to imply. But I'm saying that .5 seconds wasted. But I'm not 40. But if your in Uruga can you post all the new moves Archers get please! =( *Puts new puppy up to the computer screen.

no if u use poisons first, it will take away the monster health abit and then u can use power shots to kill it...and lvl 60+ skills (in uruga) for archer are all the same as in elderine but they hv 2 more great skills 1 is increase ur strength (lvl 60) skill which is really great and one is poison aoe like venomous aoe and is ok..each archer have their own techniques u think ur technique is great, and i think mine is great..so there is no wrong or right answer =]

[WNxOddJob]

Hmm, interesting guide, however I'll have to say where you go for stats really can vary.

Right now I'm a level 18 archer. I think it's great. I do great. However it's getting near the point where I can't kill stuff before it gets me, so I'll get hit once a fight (by the time they get to me, they get a hit in and die). I went +Damage and - SP cost for all my skills so far, and my stats are split: +15 Str, +3 End. As my End climbs, I'm doing better, and getting better at soloing again (probably should've gone 10 str, then 5-10 end). I honestly, personally, don't think DEX is worth pumping up, nor SPR. I've never touched SPR honestly, but if it reflects dex, the benefits gained from putting points in it are minimal at best. Dex gives a +0.3% evasion bonus -per point-. If I put all 18 of my stat points into evasion, I'd have only a 5.4% increased chance to dodge. 5% isn't alot, whereas if I up my endurance, I still have a nice evade (naturally high dex from the class), I don't miss ever (again, naturally high dex (I wear a +3 dex ring, and a +3str +2 dex ring). My increasing end makes it so when I -don't- dodge, I take less damage, and have more buffer hp to take the hits that -do- come through. As for SPR vs. STR, SPR increases your crit rate by a whole +0.2% per point. Woo?

A normal build, dex:spr, based on what this guide promotes, lets say at level...18 like me, will split their points up more than likely. Lets say 1:1, so 9 dex, 9 spr. That's a +2.7% Evasion, and +1.8% crit rate. So yes, you will crit more often, and dodge more often than me, however: I have more hit points than you, and more strength than you, meaning, while you can dodge and crit more, I can still nearly dodge as much as you. When you crit me, I can take your hits (more def, more hp) and -every- hit I do (not -just- crits) does more damage from my strength. My skills hurt more, my crits hurt more, though I crit less.

A 1:1 build at level 60 will only have +9% evasion and +6% critical rate. If you, at 60, go 40 str, 20 end, that's +100 hp, (estimated def) +10 def, and + 48 damage a shot, while still maintaining -nearly- your evasion and crit rate, expessially if you use rings/earrings to catch up in dex/spr (a dex/spr build, if it wants to survive more, might be using end).

Before you reply do note that I am fully aware of the extreme number of builds for an archer out there, I'm just pointing out one way it can go, and that I like str/end more, whereas the guide seems to glorify dex/spr. I agree with the guide in that: 1. Archers are awesome, you just have to be smarter than the things you're killing. and 2. Dex and Spr have their uses, however much I disagree with them.

[Rzpect]

my build probably will be different to anyone else... i try to add stats on everything except for INT, Str+15 End +10 DEX+10 and Spr+15

[Chriszed]

WNxOddjob yes I do agree with you there but I don't reccomend having points in SPR after 25. Because after that it sucks. Then I heard after 25 dex drx starts to suck. Would the extra 70 points on END help alot.(100 is the max lvl)

So at lvl 50 I'll have 25 points on SPR 25 points on DEX and 5 extra points. Should I go full END with that or full STR.

[WNxOddJob]

WNxOddjob yes I do agree with you there but I don't reccomend having points in SPR after 25. Because after that it sucks. Then I heard after 25 dex drx starts to suck. Would the extra 70 points on END help alot.(100 is the max lvl)

So at lvl 50 I'll have 25 points on SPR 25 points on DEX and 5 extra points. Should I go full END with that or full STR.

Hmm lets see...

Now that we know:

25 dex is generally the cap (it lowers at that)
same with SPR

25 dex = 7.5% evasion and aim
25 spr = +125 SP, +5% crit rate

Leaving you with 5 points.

5 strength will give you +6 damage (+5 per level, and at 5, you get a bonus damage, so +6)
5 endurance will give you +25 HP and +3 defence.

So its up to you at that point, depending on your build. If you need more offence or defence. =) The most you can know is what the stats will give you. If it was my choice...I'd probably go with the strength because I'd have a higher crit rate, and then buff myself up with some nice END rings.

[Chriszed]

Yes I know it's so hard.

[bronkolawbringer]

this gide is awsome !!!!!!, the only problem is there is no kind of guild for archers to actualy start a archer revelution, just think of it, a guild full of archers. we would rock!!!

[WNxOddJob]

this gide is awsome !!!!!!, the only problem is there is no kind of guild for archers to actualy start a archer revelution, just think of it, a guild full of archers. we would rock!!!

Eh, I've seen a lot of guilds like this in other games, such as an all summoners guild in 2moons. I've never seen them really get far, and in reality they're dead in the water. A guild of all archers couldn't do 90% of the things guilds are there to do, such as provide support to all their members (ok so they'd do this really well, but we'd only have one class), do group things together (a group of all archers lacks tanks, extra mage dps (mages are good dps too, like us), and healing from clerics), and generally be a community. The group aspect of a guild is what brings it together :).

[bronkolawbringer]

Eh, I've seen a lot of guilds like this in other games, such as an all summoners guild in 2moons. I've never seen them really get far, and in reality they're dead in the water. A guild of all archers couldn't do 90% of the things guilds are there to do, such as provide support to all their members (ok so they'd do this really well, but we'd only have one class), do group things together (a group of all archers lacks tanks, extra mage dps (mages are good dps too, like us), and healing from clerics), and generally be a community. The group aspect of a guild is what brings it together :).
i mean there are clerics, but mostly for healing, and maybe a couple mages and fighters, but mostly archers.

[Morrik]

I wanna be in this Archer Revolution I have always been a archer and always be an archer unless they make a mix between rouge andarcher *_* (heaven for me)

lol imagine WoW style rouges and hunters merged stealth aimed shot (aimed shot in WoW does a hell of alot of dmg )

i've been a Archer / Ranger / Hunter in

WoW

Runescape. sad i know but hey had to start somewhere

Maple Story 2d is FUN ... for awhie then just annoying.

Ragnorak Online for a grand total of 20 mins (played at my friends house on a high rate server (high rate = kill 1 thing gain 50lvls =) )

Fable (lol) hard as all hell but i beat all of fable with just range (fun i like shootin peoples heads off)

Halo 2 well you always you guns but snipers are the longer ranged wich i'm a pro at killtacular ftw

Fiesta! now only lvl 13 but i play online to much so that should change

Real Life (took archery lessons Not hard at all just REALLY SLOW but would be 1 hit KO if you hit a fatal spot 5 bulls eyes first day lol

This was probably way to much info but i'm hyped up on Mountain dew and vault :eek:



Rangers take 2 things luck and skill good thing i'm a Really luck Irish kid and thats sayin somin

[PufftheMagicDragon]

I think I'm going to end up going with the SPR to 25 then rest into Dex seems really good..

[Chriszed]

yea thats my build.

[fr3ak]

can u list out what to empower? and empower to what plz thnx

[WNxOddJob]

yea thats my build.

How do you do soloing curiously?

[fr3ak]

Well Chriszed i need to ask something im a lil bit confused about. I heard that after lv25 SPR + crit rate is dropped. So im wondering what if i've added dex n spr with 1dex :3spr ratio since lvl 1. So now i've like DEX # (+4) SPR # (+12) and i am lv 16. Would it be problematic if i add SPR all the way now and add the rest to dex from now on. Will i suffer the crit rate drop too after lv25 ?

[Chriszed]

No the crit rate only goes down when it says (25) in the brackets. In other words when you get it +25.

And how do I solo? Well it's pretty simple my guy does 205-235(i got a cool crossbow) So they will probably only get 1 hit off of me and i dodge it 1/5 times. So ya thats how i solo.

[fr3ak]

i tink i made a mistake by empowering fury impact with cooldown decreased so am i messed up?

[GabriellaMontez]

ill start it w/ u!!!!!:)

[PufftheMagicDragon]

Alright well I have a question, my Archer is lvl 16 right now following the 1 Dex:3spr build and so far I haven't gotten ANY skills, So I was wondering since im 16 already and im gonna get new skills at lvl 20 if its still even worth it to get Aimed shot-
Power shot-Power,
Fury Impact-

TY :)

[Lost_Sign]

Hmm... i have a question... u get 1 point to upgrade your stat every level my stat is 1:1:1 STR: DEX:SPR every 3 level i get "+1STR +1DEX +1SPR" i am at level 15 now all stat is +5 so ya it this good enough?

[Rzpect]

Hmm... i have a question... u get 1 point to upgrade your stat every level my stat is 1:1:1 STR: DEX:SPR every 3 level i get "+1STR +1DEX +1SPR" i am at level 15 now all stat is +5 so ya it this good enough?

dat is not bad i am lvl 46 and my build is 1:1:1:1 STR,DEX,END,SPR

[fr3ak]

rzpect if i've empowered fury impact with decreased cooldown does that mean that i've messed up should i remake one ?? im lv17 now

[reccaftw]

Hi, this question itself isnt really archer related, but since archer is my only character it kind of belongs here, am level 16 running aroundwith my +3 bow. 1:1 STR:SPR (which can i say, pwns harder than mages for the first few seconds til cooldown)

i learnt how to make those stones (cant remember name) that get your weapon +1-3. i bought scroll to make the Lix, but it tells me i dont have enough skill points (or something along those lines) can someone please tell me were i can see my skillpoints, and how it raises??

[xjoonlee]

Thank you!
I really needed that.
I shall join you and the rest of the archers on the conquest for the ARCHER REVOLUTION! :)

[krazyboi]

empowering is different. it makes the attack stronger somehow if ur lowering sp,cooldown, or dmg. to empower ur skill, u hafta click the skill point button, take the skill and put it in the box, and then higher what u want to higher it with

[Chriszed]

Krazyboi HI! That +6 bow is now +7. =).

And anyways thanks for the replys guys I can't believe all the Archers.

[Stefanie]

Archers Ftw :D

[PufftheMagicDragon]

archers r teh best0rz

[Chriszed]

Rzpect have you pvped? Well if any archers have pvped alot can you help me with the pvp guide.

[thedarkness5924]

ok ty u cuz i wasnt goin to be an archer now cuz i was cleric for a while but in cb i messed up build and skill empower BIG TIME on my archer but my real question is would a 2:1:1
on str,end spr be good for solo anf if not what would be a good soloing build be?

[Chriszed]

25 spr, then all end would be a good solo build.

[ericjong]

nice guild thx bro i will be archer also ^^

[MrArrogant]

so that mean more important for archer is dex n spr? so put them equally? coz now im lvl 15 but till now i havent add any point in it...i need more advise....str n end is useless rite?

[MrArrogant]

exsample if u say as 1 dex 2 spr mean keep on add 1 dex n 2 spr?

if i wan put 25 spr n rest dex,will i be gd archer?

[krazyboi]

i still think endurence is useless because it highers shield block rate which is useless to archers and only getting 2/3 of the boosts that will b useful kind of sucks if you compare it. o ya an archer can probably only kill a mage in pvp because the other 2 classes can go for such a long time.

[reccaftw]

Sever Teva
IGN Senay

i choose to go STR to SPR. and although i wish i raised SPR purely from 1-25 to get the full advantage.. it hasnt been that big a deal

Proz: you become a great support for a tank you hit high damage even by mage standards. quests to kill things become eaiser because arrow far has fast rate.
You can kill most things your level without them hitting you twice.
Evasion, archers have naturally high evasion, even without raising dex, they tend to dodge a bit.
Critical Hits, probably the best part, when you critical with i skil like powerbow.

Conz: Low defense, solo play isnt recommended, even though you hit high you are not a mage, cool time isnt as fast and you can spam a low level skill.
Average Life, theirfore you must consider your surroundings, if you get teamed by agro monsters your dead.

Spam speed: this is somewere between a pro and a con, as an archer you can spam your skills first time alot faster than mages, which means for the first 5orso seconds, you are likely to hit more than mages and warriors. this can be a problem as monster will most likely leave the tank and come after you, ofcourse this problem can be eaisly overcome.

I hope this has helped, for those who considered power Archers

Sever Teva
IGNs: Senay POW/SPR ARCHER
Sanastra FULL END MAGE

[Chriszed]

Attention!!!!!!!!!!!

I Joined A Guild, So Far We Have Only Been In One Guild War And It Was Against Lvl 30's. So Far An Archer Is Good In Pvp. When I Do More Guild Wars I Will Post A Pvp Section.

Attention!!!!!!!!!!!

[Nacho-kun]

That was a great post lol. Now I can go on a killing spree!

[DarkGon]

u should have told me that along time ago
because u use my money for my bow?

[onah12]

*here is my story*umm hi im a new here in this game and i want to take a archer class.....and i always thinking about my enpowerskill points im already lvl14 and my skills are
1.powershot this one i put my 4 skillpoints on power up
2.fury bla bla the poison thing and i put 2 or 1 skill points
3.aim shot[1] no skil points
4.aimshot[2] also no skil points..
here's my point is the realy okie that i use all my skill points in the powershot.?the empower is all damage same as fury
or can u give me an idia wer all the skill point realy put and what empower shud i chuz..


thanks for the replay:)

[frbll]

archer revolution finallly

[crimsonhavoc]

I'm pretty new at Fiesta, and i was wondering a few things about archer. But this guide answered everything, thanks alot.

[MissusDolly]

After I finish downloading the game, I'm gonna be an archer. I read through the guide and it sounds easy enough for me to follow. Thank you for making it!

[Chriszed]

I've just found a little trick to help us solo I'll post it as soon as it's confirmed.(tested over 1billion times)

[kaizakurou]

Thanks alot for this guide!I would of gone throught the whole game to lvl(whatever is highest)without putting any into spr,so you saved my butt just in time.btw,we don't need any passive skills?like bow mastery?I got bow mastery,but I couldn't figure out how to upgrade it,I tried to the same way as reg.skills.
~DokuyaGemini,archer,lvl.12,Server Apoline.

[BlooodWolf]

I think it's cool that your doing this I'm a total newb and the moment I download the game I'm gonna b an archer and join the revolution!!

[Ucanius]

Thank you Chriszed, your guide was one of the 1st I read when i 1st started out on my archer. Love your arguement and the effort you took in promoting this under rated class. And i realised you wasn't very far from the truth afterall :) I have wrote another guide to let new and current archers understand their class better. Do drop by and give me some feedbacks. The link as below http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15095

[reccaftw]

Chriz, whats kind of archer are you by the way?

[Chriszed]

Ucanius congratz you just joined the revolution. You see It's not a guild I am starting it's just that. Archers are neglected. Go to other classes you see people posting guides or useful tips. You just see in the Archer section people whining and well %^%$&ing(sorry gms). I couldn't believe it was me a lvl 25 who posted the first guide. We need more Archers to learn to play their class. Now people are following in my footsteps.

And by the way, I'm a pwning kind of Archer. =)

[magna93]

archer revolution :)

[MonkE67]

congrats chriz, ur really starting a revolution;)
i don't have the time/patience to make a guide or anything, but i support u and the other who R doin something:)

[wayward711]

well well well...
i would like to thank all those monsters that kicked my butt over 20+ years of rpg'n; for allowing me to see this day. chriszed u have made me happy. you are right, most other fourms will try to downplay the archer (no power, leeches exp, etc.). but i have found that a good archer can save the battle everytime he pulls back it's bowstring. a person who has a comprehensive mastery of the archer class can run a party like Magic Johnson at the point guard. with shots like bone shot and poison (when it hits), an archer can distribute damage like a casino dealer over multiple targets; making the fighter, mage and especially the clerics job, a helluva lot easier. since i started playing this game in CLOSED BETA 2, i have studied the ins and outs of the archer class. trying with some success to pass on the philosphy of the archer mindset to all that would listen. many of those i tutored have become vicious, cold-hearted assassins that people fight to have in their parties. and although they need no support, most chat from time to time just to see how the 'old-man' is doing. no i'm not the resident guru, but it does feel good to know people remember those who helped develope the foundation of a great gaming experience.
i hope the people who want to make an archer characture, read your post. maybe they can see that a veteran archer is always welcomed into the quest.

thanks for letting me ramble,
IGN: WhigSplitter ... lvl 27 HawkArcher
PuffDaMagic ... lvl 26 HighCleric
3rdStrike ... lvl 24 Clever Fighter

[Roxias]

well well well...
i would like to thank all those monsters that kicked my butt over 20+ years of rpg'n; for allowing me to see this day. chriszed u have made me happy. you are right, most other fourms will try to downplay the archer (no power, leeches exp, etc.). but i have found that a good archer can save the battle everytime he pulls back it's bowstring. a person who has a comprehensive mastery of the archer class can run a party like Magic Johnson at the point guard. with shots like bone shot and poison (when it hits), an archer can distribute damage like a casino dealer over multiple targets; making the fighter, mage and especially the clerics job, a helluva lot easier. since i started playing this game in CLOSED BETA 2, i have studied the ins and outs of the archer class. trying with some success to pass on the philosphy of the archer mindset to all that would listen. many of those i tutored have become vicious, cold-hearted assassins that people fight to have in their parties. and although they need no support, most chat from time to time just to see how the 'old-man' is doing. no i'm not the resident guru, but it does feel good to know people remember those who helped develope the foundation of a great gaming experience.
i hope the people who want to make an archer characture, read your post. maybe they can see that a veteran archer is always welcomed into the quest.

thanks for letting me ramble,
IGN: WhigSplitter ... lvl 27 HawkArcher
PuffDaMagic ... lvl 26 HighCleric
3rdStrike ... lvl 24 Clever Fighter
Archers are horrible, end of discussion.

[deliccate]

@roxias: why are u even in this discussion. get out of the thread. it's not for insulting archers.
http://i23.tinypic.com/2d8nevc.gif

[mrbean87]

U said that after SPR reaches 25, the critical rate increation is worthless. What is that 25 u mean?
Izzit the total SPR (include the points that u add):
SPR : 15 (+10) =25(this 25)
OR the SPR that u add only?
SPR : 15 (+25)(this 25) =35

[Roxias]

U said that after SPR reaches 25, the critical rate increation is worthless. What is that 25 u mean?
Izzit the total SPR (include the points that u add):
SPR : 15 (+10) =25(this 25)
OR the SPR that u add only?
SPR : 15 (+25)(this 25) =35
Only the SPR added by your choice (hence +25). Your base SPR still does whatever it does.

If you are going to make an archer, or any character for that matter, you'd be better off going pure SPR than anything else.

STR isn't worth it, INT isn't worth it, DEX isn't worth it, END is okay (but still not worth it which I do not feel like explaining here because I have explained it numerous times).

Lets say you got +4 str, +3 hp (end), +4 int, +2 spr, and +3 dex for a level up. After all those stats for leveling up, you get ONE measily stat point to put into something else...who cares.

Basically +stats for your levels are worthless. If you are going to put your +stats into anything, it should be spr for the crit% (even if it does only add +.1% crit after +25). No matter what your role is, tank, damage, or even a healer. SPR is just the best stat currently in this game.

[Chriszed]

I kinda don't agree with you. Sure SPR for crit but DEX does a hell of alot in PvP. I dodge every 3rd attack in PvP. That about 100 dmg less. More if i dodge a DoT or stun. 25 SPR only. End is good 2 my build will probably be 25SPR 25DEX rest in END maybe its so hard. Oh and don't talk **** about Archers. Everyone thinks they suck thats why they all lose to an Archer.

Also I'm not a veteran. Only lvl 27(24 in CB 1 and 2) So yea. I need lots of help to make this guide better. Also want to know what the GM's think.

[magna93]

yea. DEX + evasion skill saved me pots while training

to Chriszed:

i think u should add a part whereby what equipment we should get. like, for example, rings.

[Chriszed]

Well I got DEX and SPR rings. That's ok for me. But I'm thinking of getting some END/STR rings. Pick some to match your build. What are you missing? What do you need more of? Stuff like that.

[magna93]

thanks. i've gotten str +3 rings at 300C ea. and also a +5 light bow from KQ.

another thing: what production skills should an archer adopt? maybe u could add a section for let's say, producton skills for money-making, killing, etc. i dunno >_<

[mrbean87]

Hmm........, how to add ppl into ur party? So far l only know how to add ppl into friends......
Another question, after u add ur state, can l get back the state points and re-add the states?
Final question, how to learn mining skill?
Final question 2, how to learn potion making skill?
Please teach me~~

[Chriszed]

Ok If you looking for something in my guide press ctrl and f then type what you are looking for. I did most of these things that most people ask they just don't look.

[Chriszed]

I Just Added The Pvp Section Be Sure To Check It Out!

[tvuo7618]

end or dex better for archer? in terms of accessory stats

[Chriszed]

Little of both I say.

[Yuutousei]

Well, I now know what kind of charrie I'm starting off with :P I love archers, anyways!

[Chriszed]

Good we need more Archers.

[Seria]

;) Archers rule!
There are mainly mages on the site.
Low lvled fighters and alot of middle lvled and very lttle high lvled fighters
middles number of clerics
Dont see too many archers at times

[Hyouketsu]

Long live archers!
Few in number, but damn do we rule.

[Chriszed]

Long live archers!
Few in number, but damn do we rule.


Well Said.

[Octavis]

I need a 30+ guide for archers

[Chriszed]

I need a 30+ guide for archers


This is mainly 30+. I just hit 30 this week so i will work on it.

[Mistfink]

get a guide for lvl 50+ i'm getting bored
and i dont think any skill is worth to be empowered sofar. somehow my archer is stuck, getting tired of soloing or duoing mobs :P

[Chriszed]

get a guide for lvl 50+ i'm getting bored
and i dont think any skill is worth to be empowered sofar. somehow my archer is stuck, getting tired of soloing or duoing mobs :P

LOL 50+!!!

If you can power lvl me to lvl 50 i will. I can barely play because of school.

[Mistfink]

havnt lvled for some time ^^

[KaoruNiwa]

on a guess of percentage how many ppl do u think r archers?
(btw im an archer :P)

[.Arie.]

Thanks! I just started so its very helpful.

[Chriszed]

Well great to see new people are choosing archers and reading my guide.

[Jaehyun]

Wow, should've read this when I started. x3

But no matter, lv23 and a STR and DEX person. with Rings to improve my END.

This is quite helpful, but can you post a chapter on where to level for 20+??

Right, For me I find it hard to level up after reaching lv 20. I'm a hard hitter, so I take some higher level clerics and others then go to the Moonlight Tomb. Not recommended if you're not built on STR and DEX. You die by the pound. x33

Call me a cheat or what not, But in this party, I do my share of decent dmg. Not to mention there ARE good people that will help you level up by partying.

Just wanted to give a heads up if you're a STR+DEX and END.

BOOYAH TO ARCHERS!

[midaoru]

my build is more conformist to the +25 spr thing.
i got rings for str, both of them so at my level they give +7 each and i have +5 on my str.
got good dex so i left it alone for a bit, haven't missed anything yet
and the rest i pumped into spr, got about +20 there already.
my bow is 9% crit plus the earrins of 1% from mara...
so that's about 14% crit rate, hahaha! feels like 25% tho coz i keep seeing the purple digits of DOOM!

[Miza0]

GO Chriszed!!! =D yea, you rock!! I've been thinking that I was going to delete my archer. But thanks to you =D

[Chriszed]

Miza what's in you sig?

[Iytjusa]

it took 2 hours right?... ur a slow typer i whrote 14page STORY on the computer in 47 minutes but thanks for the very!!! long guide^^ hopefully it will make ppl stop calling us ARCHERS WORTHLESS TRASH i could own most of u mages!!!!@_@!!!!!!!!!!!@_@!!:mad::mad:


and umm Mieza HOW U MAKE UR SIG LIKE THAT!!! 0_0 i want my archer in a sig like that with my smexy+6 bow^^

[laguiole]

I check and did some calcul when i will be up to lvl 50 so i will have 30 point more. If i put the 30 point in STR i will have 36 more dmg, and if i put it all in END i will have 150 hp and 15 def more ...

So after that what should i took ?

What is the best of the two for first Pvp after soloing and after for the party ? thx

ooooo and i use a reg bow ! haha

please help me to set my build !

[Gravvi]

Well i agree that dex is really important. Hence we get passive skills to help with it. Everyone gets passive skills to pretty much tell you where your points should go. FIghter=str archer=dex cleric=spr mage=int notice nothing gives more hp. It just hlps us in general

And great guide i didn't realize this guide existed till today and i made an archer and i am getting spr to 25 then rest into dex unless i need some extra hp then maybe 5 will go into that.

[Chriszed]

I'm a slow typer? I made this by doing something alt-tabbing and writing it down. Oh yeah? Do you have an Archer guide??? Sorry I'm not flaming.

[HoGi94]

This is the best archer guide ever!
its not many of those going around :D

i just have one question...

what should i do after lvl 20?
can u plz make a bit more on that plzzz...

[Chriszed]

After lvl 20 umm thats hard. Train in Lumi stone or Burning hills for some quests.

[bumstick]

Archers and Mages r very good players 2 me. Its those few ppl that dont use their powers in the way of support. The game is built around a fighter if u have ability use it quiker kills means more exp, its the lazy 1s i dont party wit that will use normal shots while im working my but off. Goodie2

[Ucanius]

Archers and Mages r very good players 2 me. Its those few ppl that dont use their powers in the way of support. The game is built around a fighter if u have ability use it quiker kills means more exp, its the lazy 1s i dont party wit that will use normal shots while im working my but off. Goodie2

I totally agree with you bumstick. Its the lazy and irresponsible players who refuses to spam their skills, saving themselves the few measly coppers/silvers and thus adding the strain on other team players. Lets not be discouraged. There are still plenty of decent players around to tap from. ^^

[Chriszed]

Yes agree totally. Thats why I posted the guide. Archers do not suck, the people who don't know how to play their class sucks.

Lots of people don't know how to play their class. But they are noticed alot. For example: a cleric who is fighting instead of healing, a fighter afraid to get hit, a mage who thinks he's a tank.

It's har to find out if an Archer is good or bad. Because whenever you kill something fast they always think the fighter or the mage critted it and killed it. YEAH RIGHT!! The thing with Archer's is if you've played with crappy ones the second you see a good one (for example me, and ucanius(= ) You really notice it. If you have played with good one's alot, when you see a crappy one you can notice. If you've only played with a few well, you won't notice ANYTHING.

Because an Archer who spams skill and poisons, kill a monster fast. One who doesn't will kill a monster just as fast as the good one just shooting 2 poisons and leaving it. So you'll be killing a monster slowly but thinking that's how fast your party can kill it.

When you play with a good one. The monster should be dead in about 5 seconds(at lvl 30). If you have a STR intense Archer. And they use a bow. It would be like 3 poisons are on a target doing 120dmg every second. Most mobs have like 600hp.

[darkdashing]

nice guide

[JimmyMango]

hmm idk if i should make it a 1:3 build -.- i seen so many guides and theyre all saying idfferent things... so far im just adding dex.. i might just stop just to add some spr >.<

[Chriszed]

25 in SPR, DEX, END, and STR will be a basic build. I dont know about the extra points you get though.

[MissGoldenAngel]

This was a great guide. :] I play a decent level archer and didn't know the tricks to soloing like shooting through trees and using Nature's Protection a lot (unless I get mobs on me and I'm the lowest level in the party).

Just a quick question though, Chris: Do you think you could post a guide about how to tank as an archer? Sometimes I train lower level people in places like Moonlight Tomb/Vine Tomb, but as long as I have a cleric with me. But what if I end up without a cleric and am the strongest player in a party? If you can find that out, I'd love to know. :3

[Orandajin1]

im planning to do a 25:25:rest spr:dex:str build
only im curious , is it true that after 25 dex the evasion won't have that much effect anymore, so would it be better if i put the rest in str, after 25 dex :confused:

[Chriszed]

I do not know about the DEX question can anybody clear that up.

But for tanking. Check the contribution section I just added it!

[Matlane]

Yeah... I dont think archers dodge that much! 3 outta 5 shots thats just stupid.

[midaoru]

here's what i did when i was in the 20's
20-23, lived in luminous stone, the staircase on level 1 there is good for shooting stuff, and they die before they get to you. ^_^
24-26, went to marlone hideout, the staircase there is also good for shooting stuff, they have to climb to get to you.
26-29 (i'm currently 29 now) i went to burning hill to shoot every mob through the fence. :D being an archer IS very fun.

also, i invested in a good 9% crit str+ xbow so when it crits... it CRITS! :D
the only scrolls i use are evade, HP and SP ones. i have str+7 rings on for more dmg.

[elementar]

elow pOh panOh ba gamitin ung accOunt kOh new lng kc me ehhh ahhihih...!!!!:D:D

[Genisistic]

I'm downloading this game right now, so this should help me not mess up. :b

Thank you very much. I leveled up your Pokemon thingy for such a good guide. xD

[sasuke3322]

i want damage builde but i dont know how much i need to add to each of thise stats STR: SPR: DEX
can you help me with that XD?

i'm lvl 19 got 1 spare point to add 14 STR 4 DEX 0 SPR O.o

[teno123]

Ahhh this guide helped me alot.. but whats a good build for being decent in parties but mostly for pvp?

because I wanna be able to pvp alot. :] but i wanna be able to fight monsters too with a party so i could find items :)

[kb223000]

im actually lvl 22 but u can still say im a nub but most of the time like in kingdom quest my archers has alot of hp so im always in the front i know archers are usually in the back but i cant help it and most the time i end up either saving the group or being the last one alive

[sasuke3322]

so how much STR SPR and Dex i need!!!!!!!????

[Jabix]

Great guide found it pretty useful, thanks for taking the time to make it. :D

[Ridikule]

Im an archer in Teva server and wow.....this thing basically says it all. I have been putting points on mainly STR and END but I am beginning to place them on DEX and the difference is showing. Thanks for taking the time to make this. It's wonderful and you should definitely get rep for it.

[Bone_Fletcher]

DUDE!!! awesome idea and strategies, for real. I think that an all archer guild would be hard for the average archer, but with some work and strategy; it would be so gooood. tacticts would be a huge thing considering we have range and we want to keep them at a good distance, well because archers arent such great tanks lol. Dude but for real your idea is golden, if ever you start it hit me up. archer FTW!!!

[bloodtintedrose1]

very good guide very helpful thank you :):)

[lemieryx]

OMG U RE AMAizing thanks you soooo much!! it really helped me in all sence of word

[madcow1005]

that sounds rlly good. but i heard when you get into higher lvls you cant dodge enemys anyway??? and you get plenty dex everytime you lvl

soo i think im gonna stick with the +10end +25 spr(max) and rex str


its pretty much a all around good build
for def
skill attacks
and plain old damage dealing.

[Cordaris]

I think that archers have an advantage over other classes too. Not only evasion but they can also fight pretty darn well alone. At first, they may not be able to but when they learn those other skills such as mulit-shot, they can take on more monsters. i am a level 10 archer but i know how well they do. And they aren't bad characters. Not like people say they are at least. Like I always say, no character in a game is a bad character. It depends on how well we make them.

[blazedaces]

I do not know about the DEX question can anybody clear that up.

But for tanking. Check the contribution section I just added it!
Well I'm very new to the game (started a few days ago) but I don't know why I found this very easily:


STR = +1.2dmg
END = +.1%block(1~50)/.05%block(51+), +.5def, +5hp.
DEX = +.2%evade(1~50)/.1%evade(51+), +.3%aim(1~33)/.2%aim(34~67)/.1%aim(68+)
INT = +1.2Mdmg
SPR = +.2%crit(1~25)/.1%crit(26+), +.5Mdef, +5sp


From http://fiestafan.com/wiki/All_About_Stats

These are the effects of each stat during however many additions so as you can see after +25 SPR the rate is half and probably isn't worth it anymore.

As for DEX though, the evade stays +.2% until +50 which at that point you don't even have to worry about it much unless you're going all Dex after SPR in which case I would suggest switching to STR after the +50.

Also, just another member who would like to say your guide was very helpful, thank you.

I want to ask you what you think about the following plan:

+25 in SPR then 3:1 STR:DEX.

Why? This build is obviously not for PVP or soloing but more for parties. It assumes that the archer will not be taking as many hits and so do more damage where it's needed.

Still I have not tested this and can't until I get to the higher levels. At that point how often would you say even in a party does one have to take some hits (for like a "save point") or whatnot?

Let's say that I compare this to 1:1 Str : Dex or 2:1 Str:Dex? What do you say about each one? Sorry to be asking you, you do seem to know what you're talking about and I'm sort of a perfectionist when it comes to these things... though I know it's "only a game" ... bleh.

Thanks again.

-blazed

[Chriszed]

Well guys I am very sad to say this but I can't play Fiesta anymore. No I am not quiting. School is a priority and my internet was shut off on my computer(it was my bros i get straight A's!). My dad's still has internet but I can't get Fiesta on it. I might be on the forums once a week and will go on fiesta if I go to my friends house.
And believe me when my internet is up I will be playing non-stop. You can live without sleep right?

Goodbye,
Chriszed. (>_<)

[kija42]

dude i cant belive i read all of that butt im with u Chriszed
im with u

[Ashes]

great guide Chriszed

wats ur nick in game n lvl?

im Jun21 in game

bow user
my build = full str til lvl 45 (50 to str) n spr nx for 25 lvl.
dat will b till capped raise (get d cap raise already)

haven think of my build after lvl 70. lvl 70 = 50str 25spr

nice guide in between, great for ppl to share on archer builds.

btw alot ppl will ask is str good?
ans: no its not!! it onli gives +10-20 damage after i max on it.
solution:
spr better. for d crits = double ur current damage. as long u crit in every 5 hits u dealing mo damage. n wif higher sp u can get more spells b4 ur sp drains. n u can tank bosses better wif higher mdef (lol barely makes any difference on tankin bosses).

suggested build:
dex spr xbow build

things shud b aware of: get license on ur weapons for the extra crits.
work on
uruga: orc/baby archon
cp: weakend orge/bats/prisoners
gc: werebear/gobs
vt: hobs
mt: zombies

[kmedagreat]

This is the additional stat for my character(i`m 26)... STR(+4), DEX(+7),SPR(+20)... I`ve done mistake by putting some of my additonal stat to STR:(. The question is, is this really affect my character build?:confused:
--> need some advice<--

[Caharin]

People will say CHRIS YOUR CRAZY.

Chris, you're CRAZY!!!

Sorry, just had to. Great guide! :)

[ipswitch]

Wow man.... u rock...this is like the cream of the crop!!! go archers!!! i will so join your guild....

[ipswitch]

Wow man.... u rock...this is like the cream of the crop!!! go archers!!! i will so join your guild....:):D:):D

[juusbox2]

Thanks. That took me about 2 hours to write.
hey im new to this game how do i play and like kill things? if u got a runescape user name tell me on there cuz im not geting this game add juusbox2 on runescape ill brobly be on or on here trying to find out how to play thi game plz help me!

[war_of_independence]

Thank you so much, there were so much in here that i was not aware of. I might see you on the field ;-)

-Janita

[frankloin]

Cool thanks the lvl 1-20 was a real helper with where to train and what order I should hit stuff in.:D:D

[ChosenDragon]

really needed a guide like this! :D

[Lil-Pinoy]

an awesome guide!!very useful

[Marron_Glace]

got lots of useless details... things u can say it a sentence u say it for like
3 or 4 more sentences. Too much elaborations.

[Ryuu_Kai]

wow might explain why i'm either not invited into a party or i'm kicked out once i get in...
I don't see why people saw archers suck... they can stand there and pwn everything within 30-50 meters away [iono..]
so str is important too, awesome i'm no longer confused

[Korthiera]

Definatley a solid peice of knowledge. Nice work.

Kinda off the subject ... you mentioned you have PvPed before ..... where?

Thanks for the read

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[darknessprevails]

i support your archer revolution. but how will you enforce this idea? although i am an archer i must admire the clerics. without them no class would win in a guild war. they are important to a guild. if a guild didn't have clerics than the members would not be able to heal themselves fast enough. please do not let this comment change your view that i am completely dedicated to the revelution, but i have the upmost respect for clerics. i only wish this thread to be for informational purposes. please help educate me. this is all i ask. and who knows maybe you'll learn a few things from me too.

[flyingeskimo]

Say you really need to kill a monster FAST. Simply use these moves in THIS ORDER.
1. Power shot
2. Aimed shot
3. Bone shot
4. Fury impact
4.5. Multi shot.(only if you wont hit any monsters.)
5. Other damage skills.
6. Natures protection.

That should take out a very large chunk of the monster HP while still sending it back to the tank.


you dont need to do it in that order cuz if you do them all in a different order it will do same damage -.-

[darknessprevails]

yes but aimed shot and power shot deliver heavy damage before the monster gets to you to make its attack. it also takes longer to fire these shots. its better to have them powreing up while the monster is running to you than it is to have them powering up when the monster is already attacking you. bone shot and fury impact are in stant shots. although natures protection should be used in between aimed and power shot. use in the skills in this order allows you to snap back into attack mode quicker after useing natures protection.

[DarkPa1adin]

can many skill points be added to one skill? or each skill per skill point?
cuz i have accumilated skill points since starting till lv 23... and haven't added any...

as i want to like for higher level skills like PowerShot 4 or 5 or 6 then i used many skill points on that

[AquaLord]

Wow.. this guide is great!! thanks very much... and yeah, archer is hell lot more difficult to play than fighters... good job!! waiting for the update.. ;)

[darknessprevails]

can many skill points be added to one skill? or each skill per skill point?
cuz i have accumilated skill points since starting till lv 23... and haven't added any...

as i want to like for higher level skills like PowerShot 4 or 5 or 6 then i used many skill points on that
i'm not sure exactly what your asking but let me give it a shot. tell me if this helps. there can be a total of 15 points applied to aimed shot and power shot, and i think 20 point can be applied to bone shot and fury impact. if skill points are applied to a lower level skills the point are transfered to the higher level skills to the same type. for instance if you use your skill points on aimed shot 1 the skill points also effect aimed shot 2. does that awnser your question. if not please post anouther reply worded differently and i will do my best to awnser your question.

[Fentroversis]

HELP!!!!!

I have an Archer lvl 18
Stats:
+4 str
+12 dex
+2 spr

The problem is my Endurance.....
My HP is very much weak! :(
Can Anybody Help me?

[Fentroversis]

Did I start right?

~ Fentroversis
Game Seeker

[Fentroversis]

PM me please...........

[Laifun]

Hi,

I have just started to play and was wondering which skills should I be upgrading?

[Pashe]

Hi, I have a lvl 21 Archer and i have him with +26 SPR I want a full SPR char (meaning full crit) :P

I read until page 10 and I couldn't find some1 saying why more than 25 points in SPR are useless. Can the ppl saying that give some argument plz?? it whouuld be very helpfull :)

Other question, I add SPR with rings and the bonus in the "Free Stat button" doesn't change.
That extra SPR still counts as critical bonus right?? (same question with the base SPR u got when u start).

Thanks for your time.
good luck ^_^
C ya!

[LoLPenguin]

All in all a decent guide. It lacks a few things, but makes up for it with an abundence of other information.

LoL!

It talks about the uses for PvP, PvE, and party playing, but it doesn't focus as much as it should on the whole "Archer" aspect.

It's an archer guide, but imcomplete. I would do more research, play more, ask around and get more information to make a more detailed Guide for people who aren't understanding some of the things you are saying.

:D

[Tsujin]

Hi, I have a lvl 21 Archer and i have him with +26 SPR I want a full SPR char (meaning full crit) :P

I read until page 10 and I couldn't find some1 saying why more than 25 points in SPR are useless. Can the ppl saying that give some argument plz?? it whouuld be very helpfull :)

Other question, I add SPR with rings and the bonus in the "Free Stat button" doesn't change.
That extra SPR still counts as critical bonus right?? (same question with the base SPR u got when u start).

Thanks for your time.
good luck ^_^
C ya!

The crit bonus per stat is +0.2% until 25. After that is +0.1%, that is why it isn't recommended. And no, items do not add to your critical%, only the bonus stats do.

[Pashe]

ok, thanks alot... now i know i have wasted 1 point :P

[Tauromacis]

Yahoo... An ARCHER guide... I gonna follow ur guide... Make sure u always update profile about ARCHER...

[victoria211]

Do you think that would be great if I add the stats by STR:SPR 1:1 then max STR after SPR +25?

[victoria211]

I mean if I want to use Xbow.

[gunnermachine]

What is meant by .2% added to evasion? Does that increase total current evasion by .2% or your chance to evade an attack out of 100%?


IGN Rhaszekia
lvl 27 archer
apoline

[Kyrad]

Not sure if this is a good Idea, at the moment I'm level 16 After I tested Fighter to 20 and Mage to 18 I have to say Archer is the most fun.

What I plan on doing is 25 in spr / 25 in dex (Yes, I'm going Chrized build) after that its pointless in putting points past 25.

should I put the remaining points after 50 in str so it will be 25 spr 25 dex 50 str and use a x-bow.

Comments are welcome.

[catagon]

it is an exellant guide, and i can tell u put alot of effort to it. although u should add that an archer killing a mage isnt as easy as you think.

[rang3r]

if u can please tell me the skill where archers kneel down and shoot a bunch of arrows at once(is that multi-shot)?:eek:

[Jacquin]

That's multi-shot. Tricky to use but not a bad AOE.. at least early on.

[Spanzor]

Rawr, i wanna write rawr. <,<

[Lolatme]

Meow,i wanna write moo. -,-

[Hofulu]

WWOOWW, i think archers rock the world, they have ranged attacks, nice armour and skills, one thing i didnt no they would have is an awsome guide like this! i love the whole thing in and out, the way its made, the words, just plain old....... it! its such a good guide i could turn it into my own book and sell it at barns and nobles... one question b4 i do that though, does it have a copyright? XD

[Genkei]

I have question, can someone tell me ACCTUALLY guide to Archer ?
Im newbie and i want good build to my character.

[slashshooter]

Good guide. I meant it. It is a very good guide since this is the archer's first guide.

I'm trying to level all classes (Yes I make 4 char different class) to find more of their specialty and their weakness. Now I'm lvling my archer (but most of the time I lvling my fighter) and I wanna make a Critical crazy archer but more def and dmg. So, I make my archer have SPR+ until 25 then other stats although I don't know what to add though....
So, what would it be?

[ILiKePieLoRDoFKNiVeS]

I havn't pvp with archer but against archer, my fighter has beten a archer 5 lvl +, and the only way i lose is they crit almost every hit. pure end is my build

[Caboose9291]

I you want to use a crossbow I recommend 25 spr rest dex.

[mavricgabriel]

First of, i would commend Criszed for doing a great guide for archers:D

Second is that, for all of you that says archers suck, well guess again, I would rather duo with an archer rather than a fighter or mage, simply because they need good attention. Unlike archers (who by the way doesnt use the shoot and run technique) can use their natures protection to channel aggro back to me.

Yes, im a cleric & i love archers (my second character is an archer BTW), so whenever i like to duo, archer is my first pick...

Good job Chris:cool:

[hamxham]

hey! thx for writing this guide! im gonna go make my archer now i think... :D

[hakureizan1]

thx for the guide rlly helped me alot

[georgethehero]

I'm in too archer rule

[kight38]

i reckon u should use power shot before aimed cuz it takes longer to charge it

[TheStumpyOne]

Wow thanks for this incredible guide, I am new to this game and I am making my archer now!

[Fudged]

No... Thats wrong...
People are gonna regret they chose DEX over END. Personally, i am a Full STR archer with some SPR. Ask any high leveled archer, and they will say END over DEX. I even recommend STR over END/DEX because you can rather find END/DEX Green armours then STR. Also you can buy alot of END items in the sparkcash shop.

Really reconsider the DEX over END build, don't just recommend it because you like it. Its definatly not the best. I would even rather have 1 point in END then 2 in DEX if i had to choose.

Other then that, quite a nice guide, helps the lower levels on their adventure :)

~ Fudged.

[mazeone]

Thank you very much! I take pride in being an archer. It involves alot of strategy, so you have to have brains to be this class.Much appreciated!! Oh yeah..ARCHERS RULE!!!!!!!

[_Sirius_]

No... Thats wrong...
People are gonna regret they chose DEX over END. Personally, i am a Full STR archer with some SPR. Ask any high leveled archer, and they will say END over DEX. I even recommend STR over END/DEX because you can rather find END/DEX Green armours then STR. Also you can buy alot of END items in the sparkcash shop.

Really reconsider the DEX over END build, don't just recommend it because you like it. Its definatly not the best. I would even rather have 1 point in END then 2 in DEX if i had to choose.

Other then that, quite a nice guide, helps the lower levels on their adventure :)

~ Fudged.


Im 75% dex 25% end, and im at lvl 67 .. I love my build, most stuff misses on me enough times that I can kill it fairly fast, and with the end in place, I can take the shots that make it thru. !!! whatever build you make, we all have different feelings about it, pick one that works best for you, and you will love your archer!

[chickenleg123]

how do i become an archer aprentice?

[kingston7711]

Archers Rule!

archers couldent b any cooler ! , im serious guyz , they kick *** !

[RyaikenDune]

Who bumped this?
Missus Dolly has a more indepth guide and has actually borrowed from this one.
I'm pretty sure the writer of this guide quit the game. At least quit playing as an archer.
O_o
And that too, just to say:
archers couldent b any cooler ! , im serious guyz , they kick *** !

[V1NCENT365]

wow about time for an archer guide^^ and yes archers are good (they dont rule me ^^)

p.s. no ofence intended ^^

[pinkDragonfly]

hey that how i use my skills to kill monter
1. Power shot
2. Aimed shot
3. Bone shot
4. Fury impact
4.5. Multi shot.(only if you wont hit any monsters.)
5. Other damage skills.
6. Natures protection
by the way :Dthanks for this incredible guide:D
part me for asking this , can i join your guild to

[Beckywolf2]

u know what dude u r one of the best people ever! i have a personal love towards archers and i get very protective if someone insults them. This guide is very useful so ye thanks. Im a lvl 35 archer and hey lives fun lol. :D I love aoe ing - its so much fun when ur an archer. I like the idea of an archer revolution -i wanna help lol :P Thanks for all your time and effort! Its appreaciated! Thanks and good luck on lvling =D You can do it! Your an archer!!! <3 <3

[Nimiae]

This bows down on so many levels to Missus Dolly's. Fail.

[Youngvanz]

Great Jobb Dude ur starting a revolution!!!:)

[azureangel]

This bows down on so many levels to Missus Dolly's. Fail.
As much as I love MissusDolly's guide, you have to remember that this was created last year in September. Just a bit after the game came out, and it's not terribly bad for a first attempt...so please cut the guy some slack, ok? =)

[somidiloh]

never.. ever... follow this guide or its instructions.

poor comparison and poor evaluation on individual stats and skills

when creating a guide, you shld always keep in mind, serve quality feedback and information. doing a half-past-six work is only going to get alot of potential archers/players who read this guide and follows it into alot of trouble as well as unhappiness. that is only of the reasons why dolly takes such a long time to complete even a section. she gathers information on what is critical. this guy? i think he made a guide just for the sake of having the 1st guide or something.

[azoalosi]

dude, this guide is SO helpfull!!! my last archer got screwed and when i saw this guide i made a total pwning archer. TY : )

Ps: what your char. name??

[otterfactory]

Thanks for reviving such an outdated guide -.-
Was this written during Closed Beta?
Some of the concepts still apply but in general you should not follow this guide.

This one is better written:

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52864

[darknessprevails]

why was there no full spr crit machine biuld? -.- sure diss the biuld if ya want but it still rocks to some people and should atleast be included ._.

[alimber]

Archerz RULE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jc-kb]

Wait!!! Wat about a 2:2:3 build with end, spr, and str in dat order is that any good by any chance just thinking im a fighter who wants to try to be an archer plz respond.... I would like to know if this is good build and if it is im using it

[fireyair]

Wait!!! Wat about a 2:2:3 build with end, spr, and str in dat order is that any good by any chance just thinking im a fighter who wants to try to be an archer plz respond.... I would like to know if this is good build and if it is im using it

congratz you 2, you just necroed another thread in the archer section. please take care to realise where you post since you have been causing much confusion in the archer forum lately.




Peace:cool:

[s725102]

can any1 tell me whats a good build 4 archers please.. i have a lvl 32 archer and my build is this STR: 20 DEX:17 is this good or bad?..

thank's :),
CocO

[Serric]

I am going to close this thread due to its expiration date.... if the issue is still in need of discussion, please start a new (not duplicate) thread.

thanks