Xen Success Rate(Tips,Myths,Facts)

[dakidda913]

I am aware that I have seen some people, mostly higher levels with +5-+7 gear. When I attempt to Xen to that enhancement it usually fails and when it finally succeeds, it's about 20 xens later. Do you guys have any tips how to increase the xen success rate. I know that there is a thread about this somewhere here but i can't find it. Feel free to re-direct me or if you have any new tips, myths, and tricks feel free to respond. I have heard from a few ppl. Carry a meridian R. with you. Also carry one xen at a time. Use Amplification. Do the enhancement quest. Most of them, I saw little or no results to. Is it a class thing.. one class has better success rate then another. I don't know. I have xenned only 2 gears to +5 and it took me 30 xens >.> Please give suggestions please and thank you.

[thrakx]

no. Beyhond making sure that you have like 6-7 to try at once so you dont get as mad about going one at a time, there are NO tricks, NO, tips, and NOTHING that increases success rate. The blacksmith is lame, he sucks our xens and nobody at outspark seems to really want to help us with it yet.

The meridian R in xenepic is supposed to increase the drop rate of xens for you, im like 80% sure. As for the rest of your "tips" from people? They are crap. They dont work, and its a crapshoot. I personally have about a 1/7th success rate.

We all just gonna have to wait this one out and see it through.

[TRXSTA]

I'd rather the success rate not be touched. Flame away. And no, no tricks.

[Mikitan]

Hm -- Have you done the ore refinery quest? The one with the test fusion sword? When you're a nub and you get it via that Quest Mail pop up-- It says that it could increase your luck with enhancing that day. :3 Xanthe used to tell me to do it before enhancing. Most of the time, I get lucky if the item I'm doing is going from +0 to +3. After that, it's another story >_> (*cough* Took me seven xens to get my gloves to +5 ;~;...)

[Teiji25]

Well, there is that infamous myth that goes...."use a low level character to enhance, you get better chance."

[raemrazr]

lol, hear the myth about level 16 female acolyte being the best character to use to enhance?

[sedfvgt]

does anyone ever fail i dat xen enhancing quest? i didnt, it went perfect for me so perhaps some players just luck n some dont,

and no tricks in xenning, havnet tried yet but dat is at i hear from hier lvl ppl

[mokona.]

There is a secret among us mages >__>

but we wont tell u, since u is an OUTSIDER!

dont believe me?

What's the highest xenned item in the game? a lvl 5x apprentice staff that is +10/6ap.
Why is all the xenned up mage items so cheap? because we have higher xen rate
Why dont we have many apprentice? because we kill them if they try to tell others the secret

>__> I said too much already, good bye

[ggBuRNe]

Based on my experience, there are NO myths or whatsoever because I tried all of them (low level, low weight, ore quest, naked, one xen etc etc).. It is basically based on probability chances that are set in the game (more or less like algorithm and calculation)..

As for me, I always strive for +6.. As for +6 (my experience), if the luck hit, i only require less 10 xens to hit from +1 to +6.. If there is no luck, I will keep losing xens just like what had happened to me before (130 xens for helm and ended at +5 because I kept failing at +6).. It's like if you fail few times, the success % drop and will take more to succeed.. So, my conclusion if u fail at max twice to +6, stop enhancing and do it later in the day or whatever day.. Remember to always bring AT LEAST 20 xens if you want to make to +6.. As for +5, I think the same applies, if you fail at max twice to +5, stop enhancing and do it at other time IMO..

~IT IS ALL RANDOM, NO MYTH, NO HINT, JUST PLAIN ALGORITHM/CALCULATION/PROGRAM THAT ARE SET IN THE GAME~


There is a secret among us mages >__>

but we wont tell u, since u is an OUTSIDER!

dont believe me?

What's the highest xenned item in the game? a lvl 5x apprentice staff that is +10/6ap.
Why is all the xenned up mage items so cheap? because we have higher xen rate
Why dont we have many apprentice? because we kill them if they try to tell others the secret

>__> I said too much already, good bye


The +10 staff was from Amazing Adventure.. Mage gears are cheap because ALL OF YOU ARE CHEAP LOL!!! I hate Mage <.<.. I spent more and end up selling cheap.. Y_Y

[SiL3NCe]

There is a secret among us mages >__>

but we wont tell u, since u is an OUTSIDER!

dont believe me?

What's the highest xenned item in the game? a lvl 5x apprentice staff that is +10/6ap.
Why is all the xenned up mage items so cheap? because we have higher xen rate
Why dont we have many apprentice? because we kill them if they try to tell others the secret

>__> I said too much already, good bye

I might be wrong so someone correct me if I am.

1. The +10+6ap i think dream staff was a prize to the winner of The Amazing Adventure event, where participants solved clues to find Adeline

2. Mage items are cheap cause mages spend a lot on pots which kinda cuts their profit, so not all mages can spend 5mil+ just for a 6ap staff, cause of the steep costs in managing a mage.

3. Apps are hard to play, a lot of players will admit they are the toughest class to level up which would explain why many try but don't follow through, also relevant to financial support.

Blarg I'm done :3

Edit - Damn you Foger, beat me to it xD [oh well mine is set out nicer]

[deoxys114]

Actually my friend made a Dream Staff +10/6AP. When I asked how he did it, he said 4 6AP staffs and 50 Xens. No event involved. Just boredom. XDDD

On Topic: I have not tried any of these. But I have noticed if you take a break from it for a while, you have better chances. Eh, just me I guess.

[ggBuRNe]

Actually my friend made a Dream Staff +10/6AP. When I asked how he did it, he said 4 6AP staffs and 50 Xens. No event involved. Just boredom. XDDD

On Topic: I have not tried any of these. But I have noticed if you take a break from it for a while, you have better chances. Eh, just me I guess.

haha lol, he was lucky to get it because there was like more than 10 players winning the Amazing Adventure but Mariane had to choose one winner and it was him.. Period..

Well, the fact is simple, it is programming that determine the success or failure.. We don't know how it exactly works in this game.. Anyway, GMs said the developer is trying to fix the enhancing system and probably they will implement a better system in the future..

[thrakx]

There is a secret among us mages >__>

but we wont tell u, since u is an OUTSIDER!

dont believe me?

What's the highest xenned item in the game? a lvl 5x apprentice staff that is +10/6ap.
Why is all the xenned up mage items so cheap? because we have higher xen rate
Why dont we have many apprentice? because we kill them if they try to tell others the secret

>__> I said too much already, good bye

owned


Actually my friend made a Dream Staff +10/6AP. When I asked how he did it, he said 4 6AP staffs and 50 Xens. No event involved. Just boredom. XDDD

On Topic: I have not tried any of these. But I have noticed if you take a break from it for a while, you have better chances. Eh, just me I guess.
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haha lol, he was lucky to get it because there was like more than 10 players winning the Amazing Adventure but Mariane had to choose one winner and it was him.. Period..

Well, the fact is simple, it is programming that determine the success or failure.. We don't know how it exactly works in this game.. Anyway, GMs said the developer is trying to fix the enhancing system and probably they will implement a better system in the future..


^ The man who owned them.

[mokona.]

Awesome sense of humor U guys have yus O:

*clap *clap *clap

[jammin001]

Awesome sense of humor U guys have yus O:

*clap *clap *clap

I thought your previous comment was pretty funny even if they didn't :p. And don't worry...I won't try (much) to get the secret out of you. *Hides the crowbar he's going to use to pry the secret out of mokona*

[AnimePimp66]

i have alright luck at xenning good as the next person i pretty much only get to use ones i find that n hook up xens from Buddy's cause i got it like that xD.and every now and then if i get some 6aps to sell ill buy a few and give it a shot.. +5 is my max tho >< so doing it like that it really doesn't cost much to make just takes forever. as for cheap mage armor... cheap mage gear prices.... gears get more expensive the more total def they give.. that and demand..... not much mage gear def.. not much demand... but its getting more common trend for good mage gears so who knows mage gears might make some profit someday. hmm since i went mage higher lv mages were always giving great deals for old stuff n i intend to keep that going xP

*stalks fog n amers water plant shoes =D*

[ggBuRNe]

i have alright luck at xenning good as the next person i pretty much only get to use ones i find that n hook up xens from Buddy's cause i got it like that xD.and every now and then if i get some 6aps to sell ill buy a few and give it a shot.. +5 is my max tho >< so doing it like that it really doesn't cost much to make just takes forever. as for cheap mage armor... cheap mage gear prices.... gears get more expensive the more total def they give.. that and demand..... not much mage gear def.. not much demand... but its getting more common trend for good mage gears so who knows mage gears might make some profit someday. hmm since i went mage higher lv mages were always giving great deals for old stuff n i intend to keep that going xP

*stalks fog n amers water plant shoes =D*

stalk all u like ROFL:cool: I can only wear my next shoe at 122 and i'm still 116.. maybe next yr u can get it.. :p

[AnimePimp66]

xD dont worry i lv 100 forever it seems... maybe next yr i will b lv req for +6 shoes so take yer time xP

[LightintheDarkness]

I have 6ap Water Plant shoes and I'm lvl 83<.< I also have 6ap Deep Sea shoes>.> You guys should get on the ball and shop around; Those Deep Sea shoes only cost me 1mil.(Pretty cheap for lvl 120 gear)

On topic: I've never really had much trouble with xens(excluding when i failed at making a +1 twice in a row! DX) Then again, I never go past +3 because I usually don't have enough xens to do that and I don't feel comfortable buying them when I only have 8.6M.

[bobalitos]

Lita i think you should consider the fact that enhancing up to +4 has no further consequences beyond losing your xen if it fails.

and back on topic:
Those are merely superstitious thoughts/tricks. It is like putting a dollar into a vending machine and banging your head on the wall to get the candy. All you really needed was to put that dollar in... lol


i have had my fair share of xen failures but i still think that the chances are 50/50. go flip a coin =P

[Hilux]

I have found if I do one, maybe 2 xens a day i get better than 50% rate. However, any time I've tried to really go at it with 3 or more at once it has failed so miserably that I actually got mad. Losing 15 xens to end up -3 lower then when you started is very unfortunate. From now on I only do 1-2 a day fails seem to stick together. I have a buddy who failed 25 in a row. That is definately not a 50% average. I wonder if the rate is calculated gamewide as in the more players xenning at once or in 24h or whatever changes the rate or if its calculated on the spot for a single player?

[kevinata]

enhance higher level items when your still low level:D

this is true for me beacuse so far i have a perfect record in enhancing

10/10 :p but that might change

[wildswing]

From experience, I can tell you that there's a dramatic different between going from from +2->+3 and +3->+4.

I believe someone mentioned in the past it's something like
+1 to +3 = 70%
+4 to +6 = 30%
+7 and above = 10% or less

Seems valid to me but to me it felt like going from +0 to +1 to +2 seems to work like 90% of the time, then it starts to be hard going to +3 and beyond.

And I've had gears (6 or 7 of them) that were +5, trying to go for +6 but only succeeded once out of all of those.

[bobalitos]

From experience, I can tell you that there's a dramatic different between going from from +2->+3 and +3->+4.

I believe someone mentioned in the past it's something like
+1 to +3 = 70%
+4 to +6 = 30%
+7 and above = 10% or less

Seems valid to me but to me it felt like going from +0 to +1 to +2 seems to work like 90% of the time, then it starts to be hard going to +3 and beyond.

And I've had gears (6 or 7 of them) that were +5, trying to go for +6 but only succeeded once out of all of those.



now that you mentioned it i think i do remember a thread made quite sometime ago.. I think it said something about the percentage of success becoming lower and lower as the item gets higher and higher..

good point, chord.

[xyangster]

I've failed going from +0 to +1, and I've enhanced from +4 to +5 in one shot. It's totally arbitrary, and I've made my peace with it -- I don't try to think about what kind of algorithm the program is using anymore or it will drive me nuts. I do have a rule of stopping after 2 consecutive fails.

In general, I like to buy enhanced gears. I don't mind spending 40+mil for +6/6 if it saves me the trouble (and the Xens) of enhancing to +6 on my own (which I've never tried, too risk averse >:3). With a class like templar (or, when I was on my other alt, mage), enhanced gears are awesomely cheap, so double the reason to buy them. But I do enhance my archer gears, because I'm not a money tree ._.

[catry]

No matter what I think the probability of xen success/failure will come out to be 50%...the reason it seems worse at higher enhance levels is because at +4 and up we end up looking for 2 or more xen successes in a row, which drastically lowers the probability of success (I'm not gonna do the math, cuz math sux... >.>). However, I bet if someone kept an overall record of ACTUAL success and failures, including success/fails from the "Learn to Refine" quest, after a whle it will come out to be about 50/50.

[Necronomicron]

omg ppl 50% - 50% means that there is EQUAL chance of getting success
or fail, so it could be 100% looses and still be 50%-50% cuz its
chance of getting it not what the outcome will be so stop crying about it
i think its as fair as it could be, if u dont like it use regular gears >.>;

[bobalitos]

omg ppl 50% - 50% means that there is EQUAL chance of getting success
or fail, so it could be 100% looses and still be 50%-50% cuz its
chance of getting it not what the outcome will be so stop crying about it
i think its as fair as it could be, if u dont like it use regular gears >.>;


lmao my scout is full of regular gears :D
and im using lvl 5x gears when i should be on expiation rofl

[Necronomicron]

nub D;

[tankofinsanity]

lol, hear the myth about level 16 female acolyte being the best character to use to enhance?

*cough raem I kinda made that up >___>

another myth busted

[Merops3]

I believe that its just a thing of luck.LOL i got enough xD till now at least.

[shiningkittenfur]

well noone really has enough xens to waste trying to figure out the real success rate.... right?
i say outspark increase xen drop so we can find out >8D
roflmao~

[tengokuken]

There is a secret among us mages >__>

but we wont tell u, since u is an OUTSIDER!

dont believe me?

What's the highest xenned item in the game? a lvl 5x apprentice staff that is +10/6ap.
Why is all the xenned up mage items so cheap? because we have higher xen rate
Why dont we have many apprentice? because we kill them if they try to tell others the secret

>__> I said too much already, good bye

It DOES make sense :O!!!


btw...I know a way to make it succeed :eek:!!!

Short story (for those who cares...) :

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Once upon a time, I was a noobish Archer lvl 96...
Didn't find an ap6 Golden bow so I had no choice but to buy one which was already enhanced :(...
It was a +4 bow, so the lvl requirement went to 98 ._. ...

I decided to take a gamble!

When I got to 97, I decided to xen the bow to make it... +3 :p!!!
So I could actually use it xDD!!!

Sadly... The blacksmith failed in meeting my expectation and made the bow +5 Dx!!!

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In short: Wish and shout at the blacksmith for him to fail!!! *reverse psychology* works in here :eek:!!!

[yhl1107]

LoL i agree with Artea >.>
same thing happened to my gloves >.<

[Nanoko]

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Once upon a time, I was a noobish Archer lvl 96...
Didn't find an ap6 Golden bow so I had no choice but to buy one which was already enhanced :(...
It was a +4 bow, so the lvl requirement went to 98 ._. ...

I decided to take a gamble!

When I got to 97, I decided to xen the bow to make it... +3 :p!!!
So I could actually use it xDD!!!

Sadly... The blacksmith failed in meeting my expectation and made the bow +5 Dx!!!

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In short: Wish and shout at the blacksmith for him to fail!!! *reverse psychology* works in here :eek:!!!


Makes sense to me lol

btw do you know how many are very jealous of you >_> ? jk jk

I always enhance with the "enhancing quest", the first try is always successful for me. Then later I use the fake stones and they usually fail 2-3 in a row then I use my real xen again.Usually I use only 2-3 real xens in a day

It always works for me.

ONce I gambled without the quest Q.Q failed 9 in a row. Never do it again...

[kevinata]

lol i am perfect record in the quest and real enhancement

9/9 in the quest and 11/11 in real enhancement

the key is taking it slowly lik enhance in increments, i also bellieve that if you enhance gears that are for higher lvl than you there is a better chance it will suceed

im currently enhancing a intellect staff that is +3 ap6 and i too nub to use it
lol planning to sell wen i get it to +7

[AnimePimp66]

ive acually had better luck doing all enhanceing from scratch for instance on 3 of my new gears it only took max 9 xens to get from +0 -+5 each when i did all enhancing at once .compared to my hat and staff which i enhanced as i could in incraments as i lved and it took well over 10 xens each for staff and hat to get from +0 - +5 x.x

[Merops3]

umm ok this is incredible i xenned 3 of my satis gears my gloves shoes and armor to +6.
Shoes took me from +0 to +6 6 xens(no fail)
Gloves took me from +5 to +6 10 xens(went down to +2 and with second try from +5 to +6 it succeeded)
Armor took me from +5 to +6 1 xen(again no fail)
So xD idk am i just so lucky or did actually something changed in enhancing gears?

[shadowassassin1567]

There is One Way Did u try xening your gears when u lvl up cuz i have a helmet of duplex +5 and i got 5 xens and xened it up and all worked when i lvled try that out maybe it will work :)

[licgenier]

Once upon a time, I was a noobish Archer lvl 96...
Didn't find an ap6 Golden bow so I had no choice but to buy one which was already enhanced :(...
It was a +4 bow, so the lvl requirement went to 98 ._. ...

I decided to take a gamble!

When I got to 97, I decided to xen the bow to make it... +3 :p!!!
So I could actually use it xDD!!!

Sadly... The blacksmith failed in meeting my expectation and made the bow +5 Dx!!!

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In short: Wish and shout at the blacksmith for him to fail!!! *reverse psychology* works in here :eek:!!!

LOL same thing happened to me at lvl 97 but twice and went from +5 to +6... idk y but its still frustratin when it happens ._.

[wardomic]

LOL that's really lucky i think licgenier. Anyways this thread has been necro'd *looks at date Merops3's post*

[BellaAnimorum]

So necro, more than half the posters in this thread are retired or gone...

[Zelos12]

there are a few things you can do that will help you out in xenning, not tricks, but tips, ive made lots of +6 gears cheaply, (just ask the holy avengers that i make them for) and ive made 3 gears +7 using 100 xen or so. but there isnt a trick or anything, the fact is that your xen sucess or fail is predetermined before the wheel even stops moving.

[onetoo3forfine]

there are a few things you can do that will help you out in xenning, not tricks, but tips, ive made lots of +6 gears cheaply, (just ask the holy avengers that i make them for) and ive made 3 gears +7 using 100 xen or so. but there isnt a trick or anything, the fact is that your xen sucess or fail is predetermined before the wheel even stops moving.

so, tell me your trick, or tip.

[wardomic]

Does this "trick" have to do with your origins as a prophet who sees the future? j/k

[joek14]

ive always had good luck with my wiz i get +4 or +5 with failing at most once a gear only xen shoes to +5 but only failed once trying to get to +5 think with my wiz i failed 3-5 times total out of like 50+ xenings don't know how it happen so nicely but im obsessive and do the same thing every time entering the same door, how long i take to place the gear in boxes and the xen in boxes, the amount of xenings in a row, and the door i leave. it the same every time with my wiz but ive only had like 4 xens drop for my wiz and never got one tell lvl 60+ and only not broke cus im the luckiest ever for ap6 gears

i think the wheel starts right when u hit enhance and it knows right when u hit start what the outcome will be and what u see is just a show to build suspense, the main reason is that each time i xen the wheal lands in the exact same way on the different spins over and over again

really i don't know if it luck or what but without seeing the code i couldn't tell u exactly what is going on and if i sneak a peak outspark will get mad and probably kill my account so it not worth it. the only people that know all the tricks are the programmers and they will probably not tell us