Kill Points

[sirgidan]

Ok everyone should agree, this is useless...u cant even enter an abyss that uber buffed-charmed ppl are ready to kill u...only for their own fun or coz they are childish-mad ppls...Isnt this against the game spirit?everyone MUST be free to grind without being attacked several times and killed by these dishonorable ppl. And its not over, U LOSE EXP!!also if u are killed by a player!!!its ridiculous...they have to put some kind of control over this, maybe a PK penalty, like in many other MMORPGs..a penalty for every player u kill, which will cause u a debuff or, if the number of kills is high, some hrs in jail...and everyone must know who are the PKers, so they can stay away from them (in other games the colour of the name over the player head used to go from yellow to red according to how many ppl u killed...a red-named player couldnt talk to npc and was emarginated by the whole community..)isnt this a good solution?

[KateeHellen]

Ok everyone should agree, this is useless...u cant even enter an abyss that uber buffed-charmed ppl are ready to kill u...only for their own fun or coz they are childish-mad ppls...Isnt this against the game spirit?everyone MUST be free to grind without being attacked several times and killed by these dishonorable ppl. And its not over, U LOSE EXP!!also if u are killed by a player!!!its ridiculous...they have to put some kind of control over this, maybe a PK penalty, like in many other MMORPGs..a penalty for every player u kill, which will cause u a debuff or, if the number of kills is high, some hrs in jail...and everyone must know who are the PKers, so they can stay away from them (in other games the colour of the name over the player head used to go from yellow to red according to how many ppl u killed...a red-named player couldnt talk to npc and was emarginated by the whole community..)isnt this a good solution?

Idea is great but unrealistic when comes to Fiesta.
First of all because antyblacklisting policy you cannot publish name of anyone <even punished PKrs>, beside soon you will recive posts in style "This is Abbys and everything is allowed in Abbyses"...
Honestly now i start to suspect that to boost BoTs<and other "cookies"> sale we are one step before open PK system in Fiesta and that is something what makes me shiver...

[Plushii]

I agree with you :)

[sirgidan]

Idea is great but unrealistic when comes to Fiesta.
First of all because antyblacklisting policy you cannot publish name of anyone <even punished PKrs>, beside soon you will recive posts in style "This is Abbys and everything is allowed in Abbyses"...
Honestly now i start to suspect that to boost BoTs<and other "cookies"> sale we are one step before open PK system in Fiesta and that is something what makes me shiver...

i dont mean u must publish their name...the system is different, PK must be intended like this:' u CAN kill other ppl without their consense, but if u do it, its at ur risk'. Im sure that so few ppl will do it, or they will get their reputation ruined...If ur names colours differently according to the number of ppl u kill, there is no need to publish PK's names, coz everyone will see ur name in red

[Fre_ak]

the more kill points u have the more idiot u are :D (damn i have 11points)

[LonetheWolf]

Its PVP not PVE if you don't have BoT don't go in

[autarchaurzel]

it wouldnt matter as much if it wasnt for the exp loss in pvp deaths as for sirgidan's idea, its good, but it would basically go against the idea of abyss, i dont know, maybe they want to encourage fighting in there ... the only reason i can think of that they would introduce that exp loss would be to discourage something like a lvl 40 going into lvl 70 abyss, so basically everyone has to go DOWN an abyss level to avoid getting killed

[TrippinRat]

I dunno, I kinda like the idea of outlaws. The system mentioned by OP was used in UltimaOnline... and people who got "pk'd" would have an option to put gold towards a bounty. If someone killed that PK and took his head and turned it into a guard, they received the bounties everyone had placed on him prior to his death.

Applied to Fiesta... it could be a simple bounty system and once Player X died, the killer would get the bounty (or it gets split according to the effort put forth by multiple players, similar to exp).

[Shaden]

I love that idea; I've played several MMO's which had bounty systems where people pooled gold together and whoever killed said 'outlaw' got a nice Server-Wide message and some money. >:D

[DF001]

i want titles for kill points...i got 100 on my scout and fighter..^^

[zerozone01]

To solve this problem stay in ur own abyss an stop trying to go to higher ones

[darthnish]

no point zero , some mad lvl 85 axe fighter was camping by the former lvl 7x abyss waiting to axe ANYONE who enters -.-

[deviousdailey]

To solve this problem stay in ur own abyss an stop trying to go to higher ones


Eh.. WRONG! We DO go into our own abyss and still get spawn killed at the gate. If Outspark is wanting to give us a chance to earn kill points.. then why not do it like another very popular MMO.. and have an area designated for simply that. Not in a place meant to be for grinding and farming money/drops.

[NightRyda]

no point zero , some mad lvl 85 axe fighter was camping by the former lvl 7x abyss waiting to axe ANYONE who enters -.-

lvl 84*

[autarchaurzel]

Eh.. WRONG! We DO go into our own abyss and still get spawn killed at the gate. If Outspark is wanting to give us a chance to earn kill points.. then why not do it like another very popular MMO.. and have an area designated for simply that. Not in a place meant to be for grinding and farming money/drops.

i hate to point this out ... since i dont like it either ... but the whole point of the good grinding and drops is BECAUSE it's a pvp zone

[Orchids_Mantis]

Still...the idea of offering rewards for defeating players that earn PK titles is interesting and holds promise...but it will never be done (doesn't involve Spark Cash)...

[DF001]

i dont understand the drop rate cut in half, abyss is pvp so players can fight for mobs and DROPS

[mredlodge]

To solve this problem stay in ur own abyss an stop trying to go to higher ones

absolutely

[artboi]

i hate to point this out ... since i dont like it either ... but the whole point of the good grinding and drops is BECAUSE it's a pvp zone

stfu.... i agree with the pvp zone but high lvls go to low lvl abysses and abuse them just to get the useless crap of Kill Points
im all for pvp in abyss when everyone is in the same lvl range, because thats more fun, now anyone can get their high lvl main or a high lvl friend and take u out of the low lvl abyss they were or w.e.

this game has the looks of a FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT >_> look at their wall papers everyone smiling freaking cartoonish.... this patch is gonna create a hate town or make people more aggressive than it alrdy is.

[autarchaurzel]

yeah the lower drops doesnt make sense, if they made pvp more likely and dangerous then they SHOULDNT decrease mobs drops

[autarchaurzel]

stfu.... i agree with the pvp zone but high lvls go to low lvl abysses and abuse them just to get the useless crap of Kill Points
im all for pvp in abyss when everyone is in the same lvl range, because thats more fun, now anyone can get their high lvl main or a high lvl friend and take u out of the low lvl abyss they were or w.e.

this game has the looks of a FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT >_> look at their wall papers everyone smiling freaking cartoonish.... this patch is gonna create a hate town or make people more aggressive than it alrdy is.

perhaps you misunderstood, i was going against what was said that abyss is for drops and grinding, you said yourself its a pvp zone, abyss isnt JUST for money and drops, and i agree what they've done now sucks, hell i've said so on several other topics

[Erevan]

I read a lot of posts here.

The problem is not to have PvP in the Abyss, PvP always worked there.

The problem is not to go to a high level abyss and get killed there, if you are a lower level and visit high level Abyss, the chance to get killed is high, everyone knows this.

The problem is: High level players going to low levels Abyss to kill noobs. No extenders, charms, scrolls and BoT can save noobs from certain death. There is already players proud about the number of kill points they got, how did they got this? As I have not seen lvl 80s being killed...we can imagine.

[autarchaurzel]

i know thats the problem, how stupid do you think i am? If they removed the pvp exp loss then ok, not so bad ...

[booyah8876]

I read a lot of posts here.

The problem is not to have PvP in the Abyss, PvP always worked there.

The problem is not to go to a high level abyss and get killed there, if you are a lower level and visit high level Abyss, the chance to get killed is high, everyone knows this.

The problem is: High level players going to low levels Abyss to kill noobs. No extenders, charms, scrolls and BoT can save noobs from certain death. There is already players proud about the number of kill points they got, how did they got this? As I have not seen lvl 80s being killed...we can imagine.

Exactly.

It's not the problem of lower levels going into the higher level one, it's the higher levels camping the lower level ones for kill points and making it unfair.

I will admit that I killed lower level people in the abyss I get into because it's the ONLY one I can get into it. I need a spot to grind, and if I see someone Lv 7x, they can go RoA.

Lv 87 = Holy Place of The Abyss only. I'm not camping for noobs to come in my abyss, I'm grinding. If I need the place when you can go somewhere else, I suggest going somewhere else.

[zerozone01]

I would just like to point out.....

1) Stay in ur own aybss and stop trying to plv...
2) 7x should be fking happy cuz they can go to Poa or Doa What ever was the 6x aybss again
3) Roa sucks anyway So People Complaining about Roa Should STFU.... most 7x-79 Grinded TR GO TO TR DUMMYS
4) i use only HPA as my aybss since it is my level and YES i do admit when i seen some lv 50 60 or w/e enter i KoS (Kill on site) GTFO.

[autarchaurzel]

someone wanna read this guy the manual on being tactful?

1) if the abyss is open, they have every right to be there, even if we feel they souldnt be
2) yet you just said people should stay in their own abyss
3) its a person's perogative to complain as long as they dont do it in a bad way
4) thats your choice but since the patch lets them, they have as much right to be in there as you do

[JohnNitro]

So they have a PVE abyss and a PVP Abyss???

[DF001]

130 kill points with my fighter and 109 with my scout ^^

[hesqua]

the more kill points u have the more idiot u are :D (damn i have 11points)

QFT!!!

So... people with tonnes of kill points... i'm sorry but everyone's just going to assume that u went into a lower level abyss and spawned killed everyone...


just like the Talk Show Host Titles, it's instantly associated with spammer more than talkative person...

[DF001]

QFT!!!

So... people with tonnes of kill points... i'm sorry but everyone's just going to assume that u went into a lower level abyss and spawned killed everyone...


just like the Talk Show Host Titles, it's instantly associated with spammer more than talkative person...

so what? whats wrong with that? o.o

spawn killing is fun~

[hesqua]

as Freak said... it just means you have more idiots in you..

nothing wrong really...

[Kyo_Sama]

its a horrible solution everyone just needs to realize that its a PvP Field meaning it has elements of both a normal field and a battle zone. in essence if you dont want to get Pk'd dont go.

also to that effect, i guess im a huge idiot on freaks meter since i have 250 kill points

[syko_souless]

24 kill points, and i think that if you didnt want to die you wouldnt go, seeing as how its always been pvp. going to higher lvl abysses and expecting not to die, is like going in to an fbz running up and hitting a lvl 7x, your going to die,no one pietys you, you knew better. you made the choice to go in to pvp in the first place, whinning about it only makes you look stupid. as for higher lvls going to lower lvl abysses and spawn killing, what did you expect? dont like the xp loss, dont go or buy a BOT. and last note, just because you can go some where doesnt mean you should go some where. just because you can take the cover off an electrical outlet and grab hold of it, doesnt mean that you should. probably get shocked if you do, same principle.