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deedee479
11-04-2008, 08:44 PM
Are you tired of the way PvP has become? Do you have ideas that can help make free PvP an enjoyable place for those who want to duel friends, test skills or just have an all out friendly war against others? Are you tired of going to free PvP to only be massacred by particular groups who don't seem to care about friendly competition? Post your idea's here. The GM's are listening and they want ideas that will help the SoS community be a great place to play.

*All debates of others peoples suggestions will be deleted-dylanangel*

kevinata
11-04-2008, 09:55 PM
1.protection.......only in free PvP tho

players can only attack players of the same lvl range
(but this wil prevent poking T.T............poking, tis fun xD)

ex: 20s- 30s can only att lvl 20s -30s

This will solve the BAMF superiority problem and other KOSers

2. no sz for the fight initiator (u know wat i mean)

ppl hitting for a kil out of nowhere shudnt b able to run away when they are almost dead, they started the fight >.>

* i know these stuff are too specific so i dont think they will get implemented
just humoring ppl

but if u lik my ideas, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR REPS

thrakx
11-05-2008, 12:59 AM
1. Dueling arena
2. Some kind of official outspark presence patrolling all arenas.
3. an "instant" report player button. They have one in Fiesta I dont see why they cant have one in SoS too. That would help the racism, swearing and TOS violations immensely

Dragonfly77
11-05-2008, 01:54 AM
A smaller pvp arena that has a password function. If you want to duel or fight with friends you can do so without interruption.

deoxys114
11-05-2008, 03:47 AM
More arenas based on lvl. Sort of expanding on Kevinata's post, make more arenas. Ones where only certain lvls can get in. For example,

20-40
41-60
61-80
81-100
101+

That's my proposal.

opensunflowers
11-05-2008, 10:00 AM
Lol Deo what about lvls 0-19? ;)

A duel arena of some sort would help a lot. I have no idea how this would be implemented. Maybe some sort of party mode, where you invite someone into a party and you can ONLY hit that person. Sort of like reverse Party PvP Arena?

techno-viking
11-05-2008, 10:18 AM
I would like to see a kind of ignore/do not attack option and list implemented. basiclly you right click the character and select no attack/ignore and then you can'tattack/be attacked by that player. or make it so you can both attack and be attacked but the damage will always be 0. this will stop certain guilds/players from interfeering in fights.

Actually they would have to nullify skills aswell, otherwise alot of people will find themselves frozen in some way.

opensunflowers
11-05-2008, 10:20 AM
I would like to see a kind of ignore/do not attack option and list implemented. basiclly you right click the character and select no attack/ignore and then you can'tattack/be attacked by that player. or make it so you can both attack and be attacked but the damage will always be 0. this will stop certain guilds/players from interfeering in fights.

Hmmm
very interesting idea O.o
I'm assuming there'd be an expection with GM's? ;)

techno-viking
11-05-2008, 10:24 AM
Hmmm
very interesting idea O.o
I'm assuming there'd be an expection with GM's? ;)

lol, there is always exceptions ;)

deedee479
11-05-2008, 10:26 AM
i'm loving alot of these ideas

opensunflowers
11-05-2008, 10:34 AM
Well, you know what to do now, alk!

Gather them all up and send them to a community leader or GM or whoever deals with this stuff. =D

Nights_Fang
11-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Level Divided Arenas.
An official OS team (either GMs or players appointed by OS) patrolling the Arena.
Player Report Button
Player Ignore Function.

deoxys114
11-05-2008, 12:43 PM
With my lvl divided ideas, there will still be normal arena, to test you luck against some high lvls.

0-19 shouldn't be put in, because no one stays that lvl for too long. If two players wanna whack each other with two lvl 19- characters, they can take the time to go to party. Or that duel arena idea.

With the res issue. Maybe uhhhhhhh...ummmmmmm...errrrrrrrrrr...oh! If you are dead for more than 2 minutes, you are resed with full HP. How is that?

dylanangel
11-05-2008, 02:33 PM
No you are not allowed to debate or question other peoples ideas. That is what got the other thread closed. You can have your own counter to what will work better but do not quote someone and make their idea seem little or out of the question. We will not debate someone else's ideas. We have idea's for a reason and I want to hear them all. I don't want a thread full of "no that won't work" or "OMG I can't believe how stupid that is"

I will delete all posts where you debate another's ideas. It was already stated in the 1st post so please follow it.

Thank you

notFire
11-05-2008, 02:42 PM
No you are not allowed to debate or question other peoples ideas. That is what got the other thread closed. You can have your own counter to what will work better but do not quote someone and make their idea seem little or out of the question. We will not debate someone else's ideas. We have idea's for a reason and I want to hear them all. I don't want a thread full of "no that won't work" or "OMG I can't believe how stupid that is"

I will delete all posts where you debate another's ideas. It was already stated in the 1st post so please follow it.

Thank you

wow, just wow.

I can understand cutting down on flaming. But are you telling me if I pick apart someone's idea, you will delete my post? (and believe me, I would have loved to pick at some of these ideas before I saw this post)

If we do not debate ideas that may not work, we will never be able to breed those bad ideas into better ones. Flaming is one thing, criticism is a complete other. Lets not hinder the creative process. Trial and error and Constructive arguments are what breed a flawed project, into a better one, so why not let people pick a little, given that it doesnt get out of hand?

I like to think I live in America, a place where I am allowed to criticize an idea in order to breed another, not Stalin's Old Communist Russia where I may be shot for pointing out a flaw in someone elses plan because the powers that be do not find it suitable.

I dont mean to poke at you Dylan, but I feel you are walking a fine line.

dylanangel
11-05-2008, 02:44 PM
No you are not allowed to debate or question other peoples ideas. That is what got the other thread closed. You can have your own counter to what will work better but do not quote someone and make their idea seem little or out of the question. We will not debate someone else's ideas. We have idea's for a reason and I want to hear them all. I don't want a thread full of "no that won't work" or "OMG I can't believe how stupid that is"

I will delete all posts where you debate another's ideas. It was already stated in the 1st post so please follow it.

Thank you

Did you read the whole thing fire? The other thread was closed because of the way people chose to debate. Debating is not allowed on the forums anymore. As I stated in my post in bold above is how I want to see you "debate" an idea.

No fine line I am keeping people from "tearing apart" another persons ideas

notFire
11-05-2008, 02:50 PM
hmm, perhaps you are right.

*watches this thread with interest*

deoxys114
11-05-2008, 03:07 PM
I'm trying to understand what Dylan is saying. I don't want to be trouble on the forums. So lets use my suggestion, so no one gets hurt.

Wrong thing to do
That doesn't work at all. This will create unbalance and blah blah blah.

Right thing to do
I like the idea, but what about adding in blah blah blah.

Is this what you mean Dylan?

opensunflowers
11-05-2008, 05:28 PM
Apparently not Deo because that's what I was doing.
Well, okay, I quoted people. I figured everyone would know who I was responding to withOUT quoting, so I might as well quote. o.O
I too will be watching this thread with interest.

I'm curious as to see how people counter without quoting when really we all know whose idea they will be responding to with the content of their post. O.o

kevinata
11-05-2008, 05:31 PM
wow you guys just completely went off topic but dylan is right.

critiscm will get out of hand and flaming will start,

some people just dont know when to stop >.>

about topic: the arenas desinged for specific lvls seem to be popular

renimol
11-05-2008, 05:35 PM
OT - Level based arenas would solve a lot of problems.

Dylan - I will try not to be too objectionable, but there is not much about the rules of this thread that I do not object to.

Forums were built to house conversation, preferably the intelligent sort. Conversation is often a form of debate, where people discuss different ideas, often that do not agree or fit well together. This is where intelligent inquiry comes into play, where ideas are built upon, through constructive criticism. Yes, to have a lot of "NO U"s and "That's impossible"s is annoying and can often lead to a circular argument, but often it's hard to avoid.

Debate is in no way a bad thing, and if it is truly against the rules then that is completely foolish. I would quote you, but I fear that, too, might be against your rules.

--ren

kevinata
11-05-2008, 05:40 PM
because people seem to get off topic im starting a new thread about dylan's rules
post your 'deabte' ideas there not here :D

TRXSTA
11-05-2008, 05:56 PM
There's a difference between picking it apart to be mean to the person who posted it and picking it apart to further the discussion and weed out the less effective/efficient/feasible brainstorms. If it's legitimately a poor idea, and you can explain why... then... what... nevermind.

I'm in favour of different level ranges optional alongside the free arena, but the biggest flaw I see in that is a lv.89 and lv.92 are close in level - but would not be permitted to have their duel outside the free arena if the cutoffs were, say, lv.80-89 and lv.90-99. I'd appreciate if someone had a way to get around that because nothing's coming to mind right now.

deoxys114
11-05-2008, 05:59 PM
TRX, I would say then in that situation, you can go to party PvP, or the suggested duel PvP.

dylanangel
11-05-2008, 06:02 PM
I'm trying to understand what Dylan is saying. I don't want to be trouble on the forums. So lets use my suggestion, so no one gets hurt.

Wrong thing to do
That doesn't work at all. This will create unbalance and blah blah blah.

Right thing to do
I like the idea, but what about adding in blah blah blah.

Is this what you mean Dylan?
This is exactly how I mean to do it. As I said you can debate something but not the way it was done before. People were not paying much attention to the 1st persons actual meaning and the way they "debated" came off as an attack. I want people to not quote others, write down their suggestions and add what you think would make it work. Not how you think their idea is horrible. I don't want people made to feel like their ideas are garbage because we all contribute to this game and IMO ideas are a great way to have people participate in the game and get them excited.

gryul
11-10-2008, 11:12 PM
ok what i think they should do is make an option to fight or not. ok ill give an example. ok so a player walks up to another playerbut if what i had in mind is if he tried to attack him he cant because the other player had to say ok to it first. so if he said no the guy is not allowed to fight him or attack him

gryul
11-10-2008, 11:13 PM
oh and vote for me lol

gryul
11-10-2008, 11:13 PM
for more detailed comments about this idea whisper me on solstice my guys name is kuyter

shiningkittenfur
11-15-2008, 11:41 AM
mmhm~ i like many of these ideas =D

but i didnt get a chance to read all of them so if this has been said already, im sorry ><;;


in my opinion, pvp should just be a place where you can test your skills against that of others, i think the wins/losses thing should be taken out. they're the cause of really high lvls killing really low lvls, which isnt fair ^^

this way people can still 'poke' others and have fun~! just without some of the competition.


then again this may not solve anything at all ><:;... *indecisive*

dakidda913
11-15-2008, 08:58 PM
how about this... like wat gryrul said. have a warning coming up.. like say i want to hit someone.. a warning comes up that says "so and so wants to attack you, fight back??" yes or no answer.. then if you say no.. they wont be able to attack. if yes.. they are free to attack until you either warp out or.. have a option to stop the fight. problem solved.pvp will be so much more organized imo also you are able to turn on or off the warning. so people can attack when they want.

Taz_08
11-16-2008, 07:16 PM
should stop kiling low lvls! like josh

deedee479
11-28-2008, 10:22 AM
how bout we make pvp free and put a pot shop in waiting rooms and and pls pls pls an ignor Attak botton cuz these kill on sighters and rez killers most the time they r doing it to make u leave . Also make it in guild pvp and pt pvp that u can stick fight ur pt or guild mate when they r stun so the kicking ppl out of pvp can stop...

And I bet the same GM I last talk to About pvp problems will comment next and say well it's pvp u don't wanna die don't go. Well what about the ppl who want to fight there friends or the fact that it's like were not allowed in pvp cuz these ppl think they own it. Hmmmmmmm Mr GM what is the answer now.

tharper10
11-28-2008, 12:35 PM
It IS PVP not DUELING ARENA nor picnic grounds the arena isnt supposed to be nice it isnt supposed to be friendly Think of the Collesium in Rome and the gladiators thats what this is period end of discussion. Pvp should not be changed You make the choice to be there and if you dont like it dont go or here's an idea try to make friends with those that are killing you and maybe you will get protected you dont complain when the mobs of Tur kill you so why do you complain when I kill you in pvp? Oh wait when you go to Tur you have your friends with you to help protect you, yet you wont do the same thing in the arena. You want to be protected 24/7 in a small bubble so you can witness the combat with no risk to you. Its not going to happen its not going to chage PvP is brutal and harsh. Accept it move on its funny the same 2-3 people are complaining about pvp and thats it all others accepted it and moved on why cant you?

deedee479
11-28-2008, 12:53 PM
ONE I DO BRING UP BEING MOBED BY A PLAYER BUT AS MUR SAYS NO PROOF NO HELP

AND SO U TOLD ME U DON'T REZ KILL YET U DO. U ALL CLEARED OUT THE PVP SO U CAN HAVE A GUILD BATTLE NOT FAIR TO OTHER PLAYERS (i talked with players that joined me in pt pvp last night as u guys did so and they were up set like i with the clearing out of pvp so u can have u guild war) LIKE I SAID AN IGNOR BOTTON WOULD BE NICE FOR IT SO THAT WE CAN'T HIT U AND U CAN'T HIT US. STOP ONLY READING WHAT U WANT AND READ IT ALL. AND THE IT'S PVP AS I TALKED TO THE GM ABOUT HE SAID REZ KILLING SHOULDN'T BE BUT U ALL USE IT'S PVP WE CAN KILL AS WE WANT. THIS THREAD WAN'T MADE TO KNOCK PPL DONW BUT TO GIVE IDEAS HOW TO MAKE PVP BETTER U WANT TO FLAME IT THEN I SA DLY CLOSE IT.

I NOW HAVE UNDERLINED THE PIONT OF MY POST READ IT

MusuMith
11-28-2008, 03:24 PM
since it is allowed to mention other mmo's now , this pvp garbage is reminding me more and more of the pure pkers of Runescape , in my opinion the arena doesn't belong to any one person or guild , I don't think its fair to go to pvp and just start killing everything in site .

Plus these so called " guilds" that think its funny to do so never have been run out by another guild have they? Keep this up and you will be making some enemies ( not making a threat just saying)

mr3nasty
11-28-2008, 10:12 PM
sigh so why come to the free pvp arena at all if ur not gonna die or even fight for that matter.....i like the arena the way it is..like hugu said try to get the ppl thats killing to protect u.its a war in there.lol..and with the whole *i got mobbed because he/she didnt shout D:*situation.eggs are costly nowa days loland normally i sucide aoe now regular is boring <<... meaning i dont have time to shout lol

deedee479
11-28-2008, 10:22 PM
I think u missed most of what ppl say thing is they kill to have pvp to them self they said it to me and yes I did ask they but they said no I'm not in there guild nor have I been

dylanangel
11-28-2008, 10:52 PM
[closed]
Pr request of the OP