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xxwcexx
11-05-2008, 12:57 PM
Is 25 SPR rest STR sucessful without SC. Because it worries me cuz im not a SC user, and many people say the build is not successful without SC...true or not?

Dthugtherealist
11-05-2008, 01:27 PM
lol man eat some chicken. Naw it will work out u'll b str8 the whole point of that build is 4 non SC users 2 get crit just keep piling on a fat amount of end 4 gears. With any build it takes time 2 see the full effectiveness at lvl 62 I think my build of 23str 31end 23spr is very effective but with the spread of stats it took mad time 4 me 2 see the full effectiveness. U will do just fine get str/end gears max lics get good earings and watch ure crit grow massive. 13.6 cit with no suit^^ and I still haven't maxed a lic yet^^ Combined with mass dmg u will b very strong and the end in ure gear will make u a pain 2 deal with.

otterfactory
11-05-2008, 02:30 PM
Is 25 SPR rest STR sucessful without SC. Because it worries me cuz im not a SC user, and many people say the build is not successful without SC...true or not?

Not true ;<

I only needed to enhance my weapons on my fighter and had a real easy time playing it.

Truth is without SC you probably won't be too good a tank in the only places the END builds can't tank without SC anyways (TR =/) so you might as well make your soloing days as smooth as you can by upping your damage.

thechaz
11-05-2008, 03:13 PM
im going to be trying thgis soon without sc ill post with my findings cause my archer build works and may i quote from someon in fbz1 'that build of pure str and high str gears will never work without sc' and im almost to lv 70 doesnt work though (sarcasm)

xxwcexx
11-05-2008, 08:48 PM
Not true ;<

I only needed to enhance my weapons on my fighter and had a real easy time playing it.

Truth is without SC you probably won't be too good a tank in the only places the END builds can't tank without SC anyways (TR =/) so you might as well make your soloing days as smooth as you can by upping your damage.

I'm not quite sure what you mean...are you telling me to switch to pure STR? :confused:

otterfactory
11-05-2008, 08:53 PM
Actually, without any SC whatsoever including +9 weapons, the critical bonus from the 25 SPR is not as useful, so yeah I suppose I would prefer full STR. Its all about whether or not you can reach 600 damage on your average hits (skills included). If you think you can then add the SPR, if you think you can't then don't. Without SC and the +9 weapon it becomes a difficult task to do an average of 600 damage throughout most of the game.

fightingranma
11-06-2008, 07:59 AM
Originally Posted by xxwcexx
Is 25 SPR rest STR sucessful without SC. Because it worries me cuz im not a SC user, and many people say the build is not successful without SC...true or not?


Thats not true.
Maybe the others said that FULL STR isnt succesful without SC because if you have Spark Cash you can buy things that increase your critical and SPR increases your critical rate, too. So its clear now that you must go to 25 SPR rest STR if you arent a SC user.
If you go to full STR you can get only with SC the critical rate.

xxwcexx
11-06-2008, 12:39 PM
Will i still be a competitive and effective DD if i just go 25 SPR rest STR without the aid of SC?

(Thanks for everyone's comments ^.^)

TITLE
11-06-2008, 02:12 PM
Will i still be a competitive and effective DD if i just go 25 SPR rest STR without the aid of SC?

(Thanks for everyone's comments ^.^)


It's how you play the build from there.

From a guy that sure lacks huge dmg and poor critical luck, those 5% is a lot more than what it looks like. Sure it isn't noticeable as using SC, but hey it's noticeable enough w/o SC and any crits support off items/weaps/scrolls.

I would give the blue axe as a good example to the lv70 and 80 axe. Let's look at the regular base crits. All NPC axes are 5%, and the blue a 9%. Even I notice more crits just from that 4% difference. Add a 5% lic too and your not very far from a person wearing the avg. SC crit suits. Goes from .1 to .05 at 79 points or something in SPR free stats. Sorry if I'm off, I last heard from my buddy it was like that. Therefore leaving around 12-14% crits at caps.

Err.. I ran off a bit there but, yes the build itself is still competitive w/o SC. Like many said, SC just enhance the potential of a build and playing style.

angelous1
11-13-2008, 12:30 AM
xD um bump :P *implodes*

Dthugtherealist
11-13-2008, 03:10 PM
All you gotta do is get end/spr gear to make yourself a supreme tank. at level 60 with this build you will have 50 str which translates to 60 damage with the 5% crit from spr combined with a max of 9% crit from a level 50 blue and a maxed license plus earings will give you.........21% crit without a suit:) If u can get even a GOC axe that is good crit still 19% crit without a suit:) Plus the magic defense and regular def from at least 100end and 100spr in your gear gives you 500 more hp 500sp added to your sp gauge for skill spamming 500 additional defence and spr in your build and spr in your gear you get 512.5 additional magic defence and you notice all this without +9's or SC:D Just take this into consideration its worth it. Oh yea when doing lics do lics on something that you grind on regularly Blue Trumpys 5% additional crit Harkans 4% additional crit Blue Trumpys good from 50-70 Harkans good from 30-47.