Wood and Leather

[ARNOTA]

So i am wondering what you think about wood and leather i have noticed a significant rise is price for it of about 300% of what is used to be and i was wondering what you all think about this. Do you also think that maybe the price is due to ppl being greedy or possibly the fact that most high lvls find that they think they need to make 3 incubators just to have more defense?

[Dragonfly77]

I think one of the reasons wood and leather are high priced is because people have restarted the pet quest since firewood is very easy to gather. Firewood was one of the biggest pains to farm, but now that its easy to farm it and the pet quest is more doable. And what is another item that is still a pain to farm but will sell for a lot? Leather and wood. ^^

[dylanangel]

And how about those dreaded soul stone frags AARRRRGGGHHH lol

I think increase in drop rates for the pet quest is a good idea.

[ARNOTA]

I think one of the reasons wood and leather are high priced is because people have restarted the pet quest since firewood is very easy to gather. Firewood was one of the biggest pains to farm, but now that its easy to farm it and the pet quest is more doable. And what is another item that is still a pain to farm but will sell for a lot? Leather and wood. ^^

well yeah that is true but i mean i did the pet quest 7 times b4 the firewood was easy to farm. i think its combination of this and the fact that lots of ppl i know are making 3 incubators so they are able to aoe more easily.

[ARNOTA]

And how about those dreaded soul stone frags AARRRRGGGHHH lol

I think increase in drop rates for the pet quest is a good idea.

well the reason the soul stone frags stay low has to do with the fact that so many ppl farm them, bc they are aoe-able unlike wood and leather. The best you could do with wood and leather is gather mobs and hope that some wood or leather drop.

[ARNOTA]

woot everyone tell your friends to vote on this maybe if we get enough feedback hopefully outspark will listen to us.

[Nights_Fang]

As a former Wood-Leather-Firewood farmer on the days when my appy was in a kron funk; I'd say that the increase in the price for Wood and Leathers, is because of the ready availability of Firewood. People who still farm on the regular need to make up for that loss right? So they'll naturally drive up the leather and wood prices.

(Honestly I still don't see why though. Leathers and Wood have a good droprate. Just hit up Cyoren and mindlessly slaughter the Hawgs and Starbears. Instant-drops. Then again maybe I was just lucky that way.

[Propanol]

Pet quests were supposed to be hard. Increasing drop rate makes the whole process more easier, but not fun, not challenging. So far they already increased the drop rate on butters, salts, and firewoods drastically.

Some people still sell leather for 240k while most merchants in town are selling for like 380k. Yeah the drop rate on leather is awfully low but I don't think pet quests need to be easier any more.

[wildswing]

It's fine the way it is now, or else there will be nothing left to farm for a lot of people except for xens.

[deoxys114]

I've never really had a use for those. I mean, I'm not doing the pet quest, so what else are they for? Money? I'm good.

What really needs to be lowered is that dang Fairy Powder price.

[MarvHartigan]

*Agrees with Ethylene*
I think the drop rates r ok, even though leather is really difficult to get... no need to change the drop rate, just try harder... sometimes I think that everyone wants everything easy here... go and earn what u want, anytime I did pet quest I farmed most of my leathers, the problem is like most have said, everyone is rushing on making 3 encubators, so the demand of leather is higher, but not reason enough to make them drop more often.

Adios!

[jammin001]

I made a thread where I predicted leather would soon be at 400k 2 months ago when they came out with the free quest drops that particularly affected firewood (leather was 150k-200k then). I got flamed on that thread, and people told me I was crazy, that they would never even pay 300k for leather. Now we're just about there. It's not even unusual to see someone selling leather for 400k+ even though it's certainly not the average price yet.

When the free quest drops came out, people no longer had to spend money on them...or at least not nearly as much. So that freed up their money to be spent on other stuff. Since leather is one of the most needed quest items in the game, and possibly the hardest to get, it would naturally be one of the first items people would start spending that extra cash to get.

I complained that the free quest drops would just make the rich richer and the poor poorer. We're starting to see that now. The poorer or low level characters can't do the pet quest, or have to spend weeks or months getting the items theirselves.

It's not nearly as bad as I predicted though, since I didn't take into account that a lot of people wouldn't farm the free quest drops. I mean, why ever would a person buy hydrin at 20k each when they can go kill 30 pigs in 5 minutes and get 10? That happened to me today when I killed 30 pigs for the pet step. I can spend an hour farming salt/cheese/tangerines/butter and make 3 mil off of them. It doesn't make sense to me. It's a good thing though, since if more people were farming them the economy would be in horrible shape. If you think it's bad now...

I think high level players getting multiple incubators has little to nothing to do with leather prices, since there's even more high level players, many many times more, that are doing the pet quest to get pets. My brother just got his seventh pet from the pet quest, and is now working on his eighth, and he's far from the first high level to finish the quest multiple times.

Until they come out with some more in depth quests, the pet quest will continue to be the most popular one out there, helping to keep leather prices high. Until they add more sinks or market stabilizers to the economy either removing money, or spreading out money, leather prices will continue to grow. Just be thankful that there is an item like leather that is working right now to help stabilize the economy. Otherwise all prices would dramatically increase.

[techno-viking]

What they should do imo, is to take a leaf out of xenopics books and adjust all the mobs so they don't turn blue, that way people can go and farm the items theirselves without having to resort to either buying or creating an alt to farm the items. all it would take is some minor tweaking. but aside from that i would go for the increase drop rate option.

[tankofinsanity]

I dont see why we need to increase drop rate for these

pets are a luxury, not a requirement for better game play

it's not like if you dont get that yellow kitty, you will die or something

-words from someone too lazy to do pet quest

[gouten]

It certainly dose not make sense to me why leather and wood cost more since the drop rate did not decrease. Did they not increase the drop rate of leather and wood twice now? What more do they need to do? Do you people want Outspark to fix all your problems? If you have a problem with leather and wood cost stop buying them. Thus the price will go down. Its very simple people_ leather does not cost the same amount xen stones did a few months ago. Its really not that hard to find.

[ARNOTA]

i am just bringing this up sense when firewood was like so hard to find they implemented in the new drops for them to " help the economy of the game" that is why i bring up the thought about leather and wood being so high. And if you look at poll the majority of voters think that the game's leather and wood should be increased as drops.

[wildswing]

A 'real' quest should have enabled the quest items to be non-tradeable. That way you work for what you get. Unless you're buying the resulting pets of course. Only reason leather and wood went up simply follow supply and demand and money-making efficiency. Why would you hunt leathers for an hour and only get like 4 pieces whereas you can just aoe in that same amount of time and get 600k guaranteed npc loot + krons and xen stones and ap gears? Yes the ones driving up the prices are those who make incubators, and resellers of course.

[blake3470]

I've never really had a use for those. I mean, I'm not doing the pet quest, so what else are they for? Money? I'm good.

What really needs to be lowered is that dang Fairy Powder price.


Well I don't know if this was just luck, or Outspark changed something, but I got 4 fairy powders in about 15 mintues. o_O

[Merops3]

it will reach a kind of stupidity if everything will be easy to gather its fun to go collect wood and leather,ssf,xen stones,ap6 gears and fairy powder.Besides quests this is a thing that inspires us all to lvl and keep it exciting.

[Turbo-X-]

I have never done the pet quest my self until now. Im at the making the incubator step. The only reason that i started is because i want to make an incubator B. BOO!! ya i know u ppl hate us that just want incubators. Neways, i never also hunted leathers and wood and all those stuff so i dont know the feeling of how "hard" and "low" the drop rates are.

Point is some ppl in this game wants to be the highest level char so they grind 24/7. Some come to make friends, chat, level once in awhile. Others like cute things do pet quest to get cute pets sell the fugly ones buy SC items that make them look cute and stuff. Others are like businessmen who like to sell stuff some buy and sell to have tons of money. The make alt chars to farm different maps and monsters so they can sell or if they want to overprice items. And some i guess wants to be spoon feed or ppl that use FAQs or stategy guides to play a RPG so they know where everything is instead of discovering it. SO which one are u??

If i was able to buy an incubator B i would but i guess thats way too easy since it gives good def. So im goin the "long" way by doing the quest and the "easy" by buying the items. Id rather waste my time leveling but im farming the library to build my income to buy items for pet quest and also to buy +6 gears for later on. Therefore, i think we all benefit by the current system right now. Make it too easy to hunt then might aswell npc everything we find. Like some said if 6ap gears, xen, other stuff are easy to get , might as well npc and ya even the xen since u will fail from the blacksmith neways..ahahah off topic. The challenges makes some of us stay in the game, make it easy like a private server kinda game where u can get n make wat ever u want is cool but last only for so long. Instant gratification makes things boring. And many pride their achievements especially when it was a long and hard road for them to undertake. 2 cents from Turbo

[tengokuken]

Point is some ppl in this game wants to be the highest level char so they grind 24/7. Some come to make friends, chat, level once in awhile. Others like cute things do pet quest to get cute pets sell the fugly ones buy SC items that make them look cute and stuff. Others are like businessmen who like to sell stuff some buy and sell to have tons of money. The make alt chars to farm different maps and monsters so they can sell or if they want to overprice items. And some i guess wants to be spoon feed or ppl that use FAQs or stategy guides to play a RPG so they know where everything is instead of discovering it. SO which one are u??



To that I choose... all the choices ABOVE!!! :D

[ryanscheckler]

i agree fairy powder is another issue. that lvl 65 is killer thanks to fairy powder prices~

Still gathering ;_;

[duaane]

Personally Rate Drop is not the problem, It's the only lvl 35-45 areas (leather wood) and 50-60's mine drop the pet items.

I used to make good kron starting new toons and deleting them at lvl 45-47.



And how about those dreaded soul stone frags AARRRRGGGHHH lol

I think increase in drop rates for the pet quest is a good idea.

Problem is I now want a pet, so have new toon working, but leather is dropping less, also say 7 or 8 charactors I have made I might have farmed 30 or so leathers (sold all but the 3 I have saved last few weeks).

The drops should be expanded to higher lvl area's (like a lvl 70-80...200 area(s) with less xp a player can work there main chactor(s) up, and get pet drops or just allow some drops in these higher areas too. :cool:

[cryst69]

There is no reason the price should have increased so much. Doubling the price should more than make up for the firewood market crash. 250k for leather and 125k for wood is more than enough to make up for the firewood. Anything more is just greed, plain and simple. As for increased drop rates making it too easy to acquire a pet, if they would implement pet skills/fusion; ease of acquisition would not be an issue. The skill of the pet would determine the price not the desirability of the pet itself. Just some thoughts.

[tocoolnasir]

Ther shuld be more leather an wood drops because it takes hours just to get like 1 leather an 2 wood sos shuld Increase the drop rate by 45% more

[kerupted]

wow all i see is ppl trying to make this game easier, instead of more fun....

[nad_papillon]

wow, a year and a half necro lol