Pvp Build Advise

[casper42o]

I am trying to find the most effective way to build a pvp squire/knight. I looked on the forums for a while and keep seeing the word POW pop up though I have no idea what that is. On diablo 2, a pvp was built with high health and good items. It was pretty basic. Though I feel on here thats not the case. If someone could break it down for me and tell me what stats and skills are most effective for pvp please lend me your advise. Thanks

[Brutus_]

you can try to make all kinds of Knights with more POW , or AGi , or INT , or whatever ... bottom line is , against a same lvld guy , of any other class , you will have a hard time winning ...

Knight is the best class out in the field for grinding / AOEin ... but as far as i see it , the worst for pvp .

againt mage/ archer , when they bind us , we wont even go near them ...

rogue , that uber dodge , and that thingy that makes u do only 1/2 damage ( idk how its called ) makes the battle pretty one sided ...

Templar - they heal ... they have BH ... enough said , these might actually be the ones easier for us , but be sure you have enough hp pots , cause it will be a long battle

clerics - indeed , even against these ones we might have a hard time . once again , they hit from affar , their main ice skill ( forgot name ) stuns very often ... and we are the slowset class to move ...

i think that about covered it , bottom line , its in pvp that we are actually the so called " meat shields " ... anyway , this is just my view of things so far ... but be proud of the class you chose anyway , we still scare others with our steel wall DEF :D xD

[xyangster]

you can try to make all kinds of Knights with more POW , or AGi , or INT , or whatever ... bottom line is , against a same lvld guy , of any other class , you will have a hard time winning ...

Knight is the best class out in the field for grinding / AOEin ... but as far as i see it , the worst for pvp .



I'm surprised to see this view from a knight, as I know a good warrior friend who really enjoys PVPing and taking down archers 5-15 lvls higher than him. I think it depends on how you want to play your class and how much time and attention to spend on PVP. In SoS, PVP is not yet a major element of gameplay (only of drama, it seems ._.).

I don't play a knight (only lvled my squire to 53 before deleting her), so take my advice with a grain of salt: in my opinion, PVP build is not significantly different from regular build for grind. Which means that, as a squire/knight, you should still be putting most (if not all) of your points in POW. What is significantly different in PVP is how you use your skills and how well you know the skills of other classes. How,for instance, do you remove archers' Stone Edge? Anyway, that comes with time :)

Good luck~

[Brutus_]

like i said , its my opinion , and i would love to know how can that warrior friend of yours pwn 5.15 lvl higher archers ... only if he uses those potions that cancel the binding thingy ... im not talking about using those kind of pots and stuff , just sayin , that normally , knights have a disavantage over other classes for PVPing , but i didnt say we are hopeless and should never go there ... i had my share of winning against archers and sins and so on ... im just sayin its hard :)

[casper42o]

er... What the heck is pow??

[SyneX]

Pow = Power (stat)

Well, i duelled cay and i won xDDD

But a PvP build? For what? PvP is only for slackin xD
Fighters are totally underpowerd in PvP. Without pots and those curse healing... thingies we were lost

[xyangster]

er... What the heck is pow??

Oh right, that was your original question. Sorry >_<

Basically, POW stands for power, which is one of the stat attributes that you can put points into. Others include AGI (agility), MEN (mentality), STA (stamina), INT (intelligence), and WIS (wisdom).

POW increases your attack as well as your weight limit; it basically increases your damage and the number of pots/gears you can carry in your inventory. I believe the most common build for fighters is all POW (though I've known knights/warriors to invest some points in MEN, AGI, and even STA), but I think you'll find better information on this in the fighter class sub-forum.

There is no stat, by the way, to enhance one's defense -- you'd have to rely on good gears for that.

[MarvHartigan]

only if he uses those potions that cancel the binding thingy ... im not talking about using those kind of pots and stuff , just sayin , that normally , knights have a disavantage over other classes for PVPing
2 things.

1-Which potion does cure Ankle Binding? I thought there was not any potion capable of that.

2-if U dont like using potions u r setting urself in disadvantage, but I agree that a knight/warrior is underpowered, but I heard that power reinforce can be quite helpful for PvP x_x

Adios!

[casper42o]

Thanks for the info guys, I am working on a new pvp build with my savage. Hes currently level 17, probably hit 30-40 by the time im done today. And I see alot of underestimating as far as melee char goes. I plan to not only build my pvp and see how well it works, but show that melee can be just as good as range/magic in pvp. Hopefuly I can help create a good pvp enviroment and get others interested in it as well. I see little pvp action going on compared to other rpg games and hopefuly together everyone can make this game realy fun for pvp. And create new good ideas for pvping. Im copying my diablo 2 style and pushing my vit and strength. More so vit then strength. I will see how it goes. Again many thanks!

[ggBuRNe]

like i said , its my opinion , and i would love to know how can that warrior friend of yours pwn 5.15 lvl higher archers ... only if he uses those potions that cancel the binding thingy ... im not talking about using those kind of pots and stuff , just sayin , that normally , knights have a disavantage over other classes for PVPing , but i didnt say we are hopeless and should never go there ... i had my share of winning against archers and sins and so on ... im just sayin its hard :)

USUALLY, you kill archers if they don't use sc pots while you use one or they lagged out.. The elixirs make things easy for other classes.. Those stuffs do not help you to become a good pvp fighters.. If you want some good fight, go for no negative pots (no antidote and elixirs).. And if you fight using sc pots, make time limit for it.. After 20 min, you stop so you don't waste too many pots.. In the end, PvP is not just about killing, is about having fun in overcoming your opponent..

Skill vs skill is the best way to test your skill no matter which class you are.. Well, I would say in this kind of fight, Knight doesn't do well in it.. Even fighting healer class is hard.. Imagine the ghost steal + oblivion DOT which takes more than half hp..

As for build advice, go for pure pow.. Less pow, less chance for u to damage or kill your opponent faster.. IMO

[ggBuRNe]

2 things.

1-Which potion does cure Ankle Binding? I thought there was not any potion capable of that.

2-if U dont like using potions u r setting urself in disadvantage, but I agree that a knight/warrior is underpowered, but I heard that power reinforce can be quite helpful for PvP x_x

Adios!

You can't cure ankle bind..

The power reinforce puts a warrior under self DOT state while increasing their power.. BH will not work nor any other stopping skills like evil voice or spirit.. Thus, I think after 116, Warrior can beat a Templar easily with their high defense, high hp, continuous stun + bleed from broken sword.. Auto Genesis, AH and great sphere will make the battle more interesting..

[casper42o]

Yeah I keep seeing that , add stricly to pow for damage.. though its not all about damaging quickly. On diablo 2 there was a speciol old school build I liked to make which was called a Clegger. The clegger did probably the least damage compared to any class or build however the health on the clegger at lvl 80 was 5k if made properly even 5.5 thousand. Another barb would have about 3 maybe 4 around that level. The clegger did like maybe.. 450 damage - 500 damage.. and the other barb did about 800-900 sometimes over 1.2k
However with high vitality and high level chance of hit , made the clegger one of the most deadly despite the fact that it used weak items and did low damage. And Yes the clegger beat the other oponent with less health but more damage.

When you think about it, sure having high damage is great.. but what is the point if you cant even stay alive in pvp because a range attack would beat you to the punch. So far my level 28 savage has 700 healthpoints. And I think thats pretty good and soon I will have the skills that add even more to it for its level though I wont know the facts untill my character fights another savage at same level diff build. So if any of you have a savage let me know so we can set something up maybe sometime soon. levels between 40-60 would be good.

[casper42o]

edit: In player vs monster mode my char is fighting level 40-50's at level 28 due to high vitality he can handle being jumped by all the monsters.

[MarvHartigan]

You can't cure ankle bind..
lol, as far as I know AB cant be cured with a potion, but someone stated that, so maybe that came with an update and I had never noticed, it was just a question.

The power reinforce puts a warrior under self DOT state while increasing their power.. BH will not work nor any other stopping skills like evil voice or spirit.. Thus, I think after 116, Warrior can beat a Templar easily with their high defense, high hp, continuous stun + bleed from broken sword.. Auto Genesis, AH and great sphere will make the battle more interesting..
So, Power Reinforce doesnt help against AB? Then how the hell can a warrior beat an archer????

Completely off-topic but, why people dont like playing with antidotes? I think it's part of the game... plus without them, Magic Flame + Magic Poison + Iceball + something else = x_x no matter what

...cdar always complain when I use cure potions against him rofl xD

Adios!

[xyangster]

um somewhat off topic:

Is there a cure for Oblivion? If not, how might a lvl 79 disicple win against a lvl 82 cleric in cashless PVP? (I tried and was not successful :x)

[Trashknight]

um somewhat off topic:

Is there a cure for Oblivion? If not, how might a lvl 79 disicple win against a lvl 82 cleric in cashless PVP? (I tried and was not successful :x)
Curse Healing Elixers?

[Orangeman21]

Here is a run down of all the stats and what they do basically for fighter.

Pow = power: Increases attack and increases carrying weight for carrying pots, armor, etc...

Agi = Agility: Mostly Increases dodge, normal attack speed, normal attack crit and Somewhat increases skill critical, attack, skill spam speed.

Men = Mentality: Mostly Increases Skill Criticals, Hit Rate(Chance of hiting an enemy), and Skill Speed and Somewhat increases Dodge, normal attack crit, and normal attack speed

Sta = Stamina: increases health by 15 every point and alos increases the amount of HP blazing(skill that increases HP) adds.

Wis = Adds 10 MP every stat point, but not to useful for fighters

Int = Intelligance: STAY AWAY if you are fighter it is only good for Mage or Healer.

Basically the best way to make a significant difference is to have good defense.

Edit: I see you already chose your build gl with it ^^.

OffTopic:
Yeah I fought Baten a few weeks ago and I was an armor set below him and we just used normal pots. Basically it was a long fight and we basically stopped after awhile. Probally with my next armor set, power reinforce, and upgraded skills it would be a lot easier. I guess once I get 116 I"ll have to fight strider :P.

Yes Curse heal Elixer heals Oblivion, Ghost Steal, and Howling.

There is no self-cure for ankle bind other than holy cure(I think)., we will have to see how ranged Force Cut actually is and if it is a enough to make a difference in pvp