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Ntxhuav
11-14-2008, 10:28 AM
Who will win? I wanna know what you people think. OK so there's a 2 vs 2 battle. A lvl89 cleric and lvl89 mage VS a lvl89 cleric and lvl89 fighter. All 4 of them have full SC stuffs; extenders, charms, critical stuffs, sc pots, etc. They all have max stats on their gears and weapons and they're all +9.:eek: The 2 clerics uses both hammer and mace, mage uses wand, and fighter uses axe obviously.
Who will win?:confused:

leftis95
11-14-2008, 11:20 AM
No one cause of clerics.If it was 1vs1 between fighter 89 and mage 89 the fighter would obviously win if the mage wasn't pure END with maxed END +9 items^^.

xlonethreat
11-16-2008, 10:25 PM
well the sc and +9s are unnecesary...
mage/cleric.

sphynx65
11-17-2008, 06:03 AM
it really all depends on how the 2vs2 goes really. if ur smart enough to go for cleric first then its just a matter of time. ima lvl 84 fighter and my friend zac who is lvl 83 cleric took on a team of 5. whos names will be unsaid of. but we took them on and won badly.... the team of 5 consisted of. 1 fighter lvl 8X cleric 7X archer 8X archer 7X and mage 7X. all we had to do was run after the cleric kill it and after that it was over. fighter couldnt kill me cuz of heals and neither could mage. and i didnt use 1 pot. it all depends on how u fight the battle.

hemmes
11-18-2008, 04:00 AM
I voted Chuck Norris

DemonBlitzKragor
11-18-2008, 07:35 AM
lv 89 fighter and cleric for sure. Fighter spams deva and cleric just joins in healing and attacks. Then the deva cleric, and vitality and then both go all out on mage, 1 down and then finish off the cleric.

themichael
11-20-2008, 01:21 PM
actuallly it would be much smarter to go after the mage 1st(if yout the fighter and cleric team) since the mage has an advantage with his/her aoes since the fighter and cleric are melee fighters.
just get the cleric to distract the cleric and send your fighter after themage.
The fighter devas then uses a aZILLION of his/her mimmediate casts with hardly any cool time then *splat* bye mage.
then deva the cleric again use all A ZILLION imediate casts along with your cleric fiend and thats the end of that.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

NimbusCloud
11-20-2008, 03:25 PM
...*sigh* and yet again, archers are underestimated by all others...

*notes that we're the only class not mentioned

AhLook
11-20-2008, 08:35 PM
cleric/mage will win..
no using of magic pots. ( no one will win if there is sc pots involved )
cleric will assist in dealing dmg.. mage fear fighter at start, the out of range glitch would probably waste the fighter's time..
mage do 2 DoT below cleric and cast stifle and spam his spells.. in this way cleric take dmg and cannot heal himself unless stone and pot.
trick is to disable fighter first.. cleric cant do much dmg in a short time.. so if u disable cleric ability to use skills.. its all over..

colt_princess
11-20-2008, 09:24 PM
I voted lvl 89 mage and cleric because the mage can deal better damge as the fighter.
You dont know if the fighter is a tanker or DD. Because of this its difficult to answer.
If the fighter hasnt any bonusses the mage will win easliy but if he is a DD and has buffs, etc. the mage cannot win.

BainS-NT
11-20-2008, 11:01 PM
Mage and Cleric with all +9s?
almost sounds too easy

Either way, unless the fighter has a good m.def his +9s wont help nearly as much,
and the mage can easily heal himself with cleric helping out.
Also +9 BK with charms makes it cake

borednl
11-20-2008, 11:06 PM
With all SC buffs, nobody would win till someone ran out of stones. Everyone would just whack at each other till that happened. The mage would run out of HP stones first, of course, and then the fighter/cleric would win.

Without the SC items: The fighter/cleric would win most of the time, because fear has a cool time of 1.5 minutes, but devestate does not. Devestate can also stun multiple targets, rooting them, while fear only hits 1 (and sends the target flying, making the cleric side-kick unable to join in and attack much).

If the mage fears the fighter to kill the cleric, the cleric should be able to run and survive while the fighter is feared. If the cleric was feared, then the fighter would just devastate either the mage or the cleric (or both) and then make short work of the mage first. There fighter/cleric would then decimate the surviving cleric.

Even a mage with good END/DEX +9 armors on won't last through the duration of a pure STR axe fighter's stun, yet even fighters with crappy greens on easily lasts longer than a mage's fear.

Sharlyne
11-21-2008, 12:01 AM
In my opinion it depends on gears and sc items stats and stuff ._. <3

MMORPGNERD
11-21-2008, 06:58 AM
if all +9 the clerics wont die~ so no one will win.

mystishadow
11-21-2008, 07:04 AM
If all +9s:
Mage and Fighter: Splat
The 2 clerics: Still wacking at each other >.>

MMORPGNERD
11-21-2008, 07:31 AM
both duos will last forever if the clerics know how to heal...

Nipah
11-21-2008, 08:30 AM
Well if they had SC pots and all I wouldn't choose either of the two. I'd choose fighter (doesnt matter DD/tank)/mage. Because that way it would have ultimate damage the entire time. Buuuut for staying with the choices, eh.. cleric/mage

themichael
11-21-2008, 01:22 PM
If the cleric kept the fighter occupied then yest the mage and cleric but if the fighter was smart then he'd go after the mage.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Fuzzz
11-21-2008, 03:14 PM
Uhhh Fighter Deva Cleric, Both spam skills on mage. Dead.

Fighter and cleric, a easy win.

themichael
11-21-2008, 05:06 PM
And hes got it!
Except killin the cleric wont be 2 easy.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Fuzzz
11-21-2008, 10:09 PM
lol Well all the fighter has to do is time his deva right and spam everything afterwards.

But either way mage is going down easy and quick, which leaves the cleric to get ganged.

NimbusCloud
11-21-2008, 11:49 PM
what about a cleric archer duo? or a mage archer duo?

...what? no one...? x.x

Xylvion
11-22-2008, 04:43 AM
uhm you said full sc stuff? noone would win ofc spark cash pots? hello >.>

Fuzzz
11-22-2008, 12:17 PM
Even if the fighter was full end as long as he has a +9axe the mage is dead.

AhLook
11-22-2008, 05:46 PM
With all SC buffs, nobody would win till someone ran out of stones. Everyone would just whack at each other till that happened. The mage would run out of HP stones first, of course, and then the fighter/cleric would win.

Without the SC items: The fighter/cleric would win most of the time, because fear has a cool time of 1.5 minutes, but devestate does not. Devestate can also stun multiple targets, rooting them, while fear only hits 1 (and sends the target flying, making the cleric side-kick unable to join in and attack much).

If the mage fears the fighter to kill the cleric, the cleric should be able to run and survive while the fighter is feared. If the cleric was feared, then the fighter would just devastate either the mage or the cleric (or both) and then make short work of the mage first. There fighter/cleric would then decimate the surviving cleric.

Even a mage with good END/DEX +9 armors on won't last through the duration of a pure STR axe fighter's stun, yet even fighters with crappy greens on easily lasts longer than a mage's fear.
u have any idea of a mage special skill which has 15 seconds cooldown.. and makes usage of skills impossible ? which i am very sure that its a cheat skill ? read my post and u will know..

If the cleric kept the fighter occupied then yest the mage and cleric but if the fighter was smart then he'd go after the mage.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

yeh.. thats for lower levels.. we talking about lvl 89..
at lvl 89, mage gets new cheat skill..

lol.. the posts got worse and worst..

epic failure.. this argument

devin_nicolai
11-22-2008, 06:10 PM
I voted Mag/Cleric, Mmk Mage would chain cast stifle, stifle the fighter then the cleric, fear the fighter and take out the cleric then just aoe the fighter and win :O

leobaloy
11-23-2008, 07:46 AM
where do i vote for fighter/mage? D:
fighter stuns mage chaincasts inferno and nova >.>

themichael
11-24-2008, 01:22 PM
where do i vote for fighter/mage? D:
fighter stuns mage chaincasts inferno and nova >.>

Lol.
That would be a win against any other Duo(Since archers dont get any good skills at 8x that really help)
[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

soccerbabe5476
11-28-2008, 03:42 PM
hmmmm..... i think mage and ceric mages do great damge of course some fyters go after the cerics kill htem then go after the mage so 50/50 chance of winning

Plushii
11-28-2008, 03:50 PM
What about Archer/Cleric duo? :P

Plushii
11-28-2008, 03:53 PM
what about a cleric archer duo? or a mage archer duo?

...what? no one...? x.x

I know O=
Why does everyone seem to think Archers are under powered >.>
Archers just own :D
My wife (cleric) and my archer are the best duo there is hahah :P

big_blade
11-28-2008, 07:39 PM
Id say the mage and cleric, because the mage can just use ranged attacks and run away... of course if the fighter were smart enough hed just attack the cleric, easily kill him (no offense clerics- but fighters pwn u), and then somehow corner the mage before he can escape... but of course this one can kinda go either way.

big_blade
11-28-2008, 07:41 PM
i actually think that a cleric/archer combo would be pretty good, as the archer has lots of DoTs and, unlike mages, has a continuous attack that doesnt take up sp.

themichael
11-29-2008, 09:38 PM
An archer/Cleric duo would only beat the Mage/cleric duo, because the fighters and clerics hp pools are so large they probably wouldnt even be effected by the DoTs b4 the cleric could cure the fighter and himself. And Archers r pretty much the only ones that Can beat a mage....with no sweat.
[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

viciousrawr
11-29-2008, 10:23 PM
O: ohmy~
Lv80 Vitality / +9 BK Axe / Charm of Might
Sounds way to much for someone to survive such a feat.

Anyway

I think if everyone had +9's Wep/Equipment and a Cleric
It would actually be a stalemate until the 1 of the 2 groups will lose all its stones
-- Since the 2 Clerics are the same level, they will have the same stones
-- The Fighter has way more stones than the Mage, so I guess the Fighter + Cleric wins

I doubt the Fighter can kill the mage w/ +9 Equipment + A Cleric Healing

And the Mage can't kill a Fighter if the Fighter has crazy-high HP + Cleric Healing + Stones + Potions



~ It is an endurance match basically, and the Mage will never have more stones than the Fighter

Xylvion
11-30-2008, 04:17 AM
arcehr/cleric wouldn't beat mage/cleric or fighter/cleric cause archers or clerics got no stun atk so the cleric would live forever ty ;)

themichael
11-30-2008, 06:06 PM
arcehr/cleric wouldn't beat mage/cleric or fighter/cleric cause archers or clerics got no stun atk so the cleric would live forever ty ;)

But that mage wouldn't:cool:

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

deathwantsu
01-17-2009, 03:16 AM
I voted lvl 89 mage and cleric because the mage can deal better damge as the fighter.
You dont know if the fighter is a tanker or DD. Because of this its difficult to answer.
If the fighter hasnt any bonusses the mage will win easliy but if he is a DD and has buffs, etc. the mage cannot win.

i agree with that too coz the mage will use stifle on cleric so he cant heal then fear fighter n own him then itll b a long fight against the cleric but then they will win

also did u notice either way cleric wins ;) ?

deathwantsu
01-17-2009, 03:20 AM
Id say the mage and cleric, because the mage can just use ranged attacks and run away... of course if the fighter were smart enough hed just attack the cleric, easily kill him (no offense clerics- but fighters pwn u), and then somehow corner the mage before he can escape... but of course this one can kinda go either way.

pft as if u do im a lvl 74 cleric n some lvl 89 fighters cant beat me (coz their devas cool down and how long it lasts isnt maxed ) ;) but a bit ago i vsed a lvl 83 fighter with 6 sec deva n he couldnt kill me either :D but i guess it all depends on who u vs :)

ra77man
01-19-2009, 04:25 AM
Mage / Cleric ftw! xD

Like the post said - all +9 gear and sc items, and all characters are equi-level, mage and fighter using +9 BK wand and fighter using +9 BK axe.

With all sc buffs and t4 scrolls, and pots - there is just one thing that the fighter would still lack and that is m.def. +9 gear will not give him m.def.

The mage will stifle, chain fear, mana burn, aoe etc... More often than not - the mage will win.

mysweetescape
01-19-2009, 07:23 PM
I vote Mage/Cleric.

Because, obviously, you should kill the cleric first, right?

Well, the Cleric has more Def than Mdef, even with no End stat. The Cleric PvP duoing with the Fighter will die faster, because the Mage's attacks will affect Mdef (obviously), while the Fighter affects the Cleric's Def, higher than his/her Mdef.

Sure, the Fighter has Deva and can stun them both, but what if the Mage uses Fear/Mana Burn? What about the Mage's, lets say, fully empowered AoE's, and completely wipes out the other Cleric's Sp when it's low enough?

OR

The Mage can Fear the Fighter, Chain Cast in on the Cleric, then wipe out the Fighter because his Mdef is low. :x Mages can do that, can't they? o.O

I also believe that the Mage has more Def than Fighter's Mdef. I think this because my 3x Mages does 2xx~3xx Dmg to 3x Fighters with Magic Missile/Fire Bolt, and they do a range of 1xx~25x with their skills.

Of course I'm talking about without sc for my Mage :x If Fighters use sc then I'm dead flat in 3 seconds.

fantasyxkingdom
01-28-2009, 05:42 PM
Mage / Cleric ftw! xD

Like the post said - all +9 gear and sc items, and all characters are equi-level, mage and fighter using +9 BK wand and fighter using +9 BK axe.

With all sc buffs and t4 scrolls, and pots - there is just one thing that the fighter would still lack and that is m.def. +9 gear will not give him m.def.

The mage will stifle, chain fear, mana burn, aoe etc... More often than not - the mage will win.



i voted for mage / cleric. my husband and i (who posted the quote) are mage & cleric, respectfully, just rule, plain.and.simple.