Seriously! -_-

[Annwyn]

Ok guys :

I'm not the best cleric around, I do a lot of mistakes. But I try to do my best and I'm not too bad either. And I'm utterly PISSED at a lot of you clerics:

A LOT, during kingdom quests, just spent their time hitting mobs while fighters and others die out.

Geez if you feel so much like killing things, killing before healing, BE A FIGHTER and not a cleric!

[Tamlinari]

Female clerics (assuming the character is played by a girl) are much better support clerics.
I have noticed to that a lot of the guys that are clerics have a macho beat'em up and show off male ego thing at play that apparently doesn't permit them to take a support roll very well.
And besides they will often focus on protecting the female characters in the party and leave the male members to fend for themselves most of the time.
It works to their advantage as a brutal battle cleric but not so well at a support roll.
If you want support roll clerics in your party you have to recruit female characters almost exclusively.
Just my opinion.
:D

[Annwyn]

Actually, you're very right, mostly it's male clerics who feels like hitting the mob to a pulp. But still... Feel macho, be a fighter.

Besides we girls love strong fighters ^^

[Ueberbier]

Well if i join a KQ there are 2 options for me.
1. I get a group and then i for sure will support my team

2. If i get no group then i go hitting mobs cause otherwise i wouldnt get any XP from them.
It may sound a bit egoistic but i see no sense in healing and revieving everyone when i am not in a group, get no XP at all from kills and spending one SP stone / Pot after the other for nothing. I do heal the maintank at bosses but that only if there is a lack of healers wich is in most of the time not the fact , otherwise i would ve been invited to a group. So i see nothing bad about bashing instead of supporting in that case.

[aznhmg]

i'm currently starting a healer...and he's a Male -.-
i will indeed make him a End/Spr so i can Tank when soloing..
but then when in parties i'll be more then happy to heal :]

[Sirril]

I hit mobs and I'm a cleric....but I only hit mobs when I know it's safe enough for everyone else not to be healed.
Like the lower levels of King Slime KQ; no-one really loses hp around here (unless low low level gets aggro) so I just add to the quick melee damage so we can move along.

But I know my main task is to heal people in a group. I never forget that. I went into Lum Stone last night as a level 19; I only healed the other 3 people and never tried to attack anything myself.
I have a good sense of hp management now after playing cleric for a bit; I know situations where I could probably add to the melee w/o penalty,and other situations when I know I should just heal and nothing else. Sometimes I even heal people outside of my KQ group because they get involved in combat. (not all the time though)

What I find to be the problem is that people don't seem to keep aggro off ME during long healing bouts. Everytime in King Slime KQ I used to do w/o fail the Iron Slimes come over and stunkill me on the King Slime battle while I'm healing the tank. No-one does squat about it until after I'm dead. (Only in CB2 once did people get the aggro off me.)
I'm hoping this doesn't extend over to later on (maybe King Slime is more 'casual' and people toss away deaths like confetti); I'd prefer not to have aggro while healing in later KQ battles.

[qwter55]

If you get agro when you heal in King Slime KQ... your are standing TOO CLOSE... you can stand far far away from the tank ... go try.

You can heal AND dps... you just have to:
1: modify your shortcut key
2: know how-to / method to heal and dps.

Both I explained in my guide. Link is in my sig.

*Disclaimer: Not (dps and heal) during boss fight that do not have enough healer. Generally if there is 3 "good" healer spamming heal. Other healer can dps and spot heal melee dpser that is standing with you behind the boss mob. Signal to spot heal is when they get snare by green twig thingy... and heal your self first or you pot then heal the other... you cant heal if you are dead... you cant rezz them either if you are dead.

PS: If you don't get invited into group in KQ within 3 to 10 sec of entering KQ ...start making your own group. There is 2 way of inviting people:
1. Click on them, right click on their portrait, click Invite Player.
2. Look at those that say "Invite pls" in chat. Right click on their name and select "Invite Player".

[tingrui22]

My way during KQ is like doing 3 things at once...i will beat the monsters like a pulp like some of u said!!#!@#! next would be monitoring party mems. hp and heal or restore when needed...and i even talk to old memebrs say hi all the crap and do these at the same time but pls note that qwter was correct abt healing PLS HEAL UR PT MEMBERS DURING A BOSS FIGHT IF THERE IS ONLY 3 CLERICS OR BELOW...IT WOULD BE CRAZY IF U DUN HEAL WHEN U KNOW UR THE FEW CLERICS it happened once in KQ...i was the only cleric in the whole mara...deadly...luckily i was half sup to heal and tide through to mara KQ. WARNING:A lot of ppl died and i had to go rez and rez and rez and rez and rez and rez...

Being a tanker cleric in KQ is not wrong...but pls know ur limits...if u know u r the only cleric in ur pt and there is like 3 clerics in the KQ..u can fight but keep monitoring their hp most of the time..and during boss fights..u can either 1.spam heal with a weaker heal 2.use a strong/mid heal when tanker loses hp

[ASCIIrider]

As a cleric who DOES go attacking during KQ's there's a reason for it. At times I've had to play tank in Mara KQ's due to me having the most HP and def. Other times I'll attack and stop when I see a party member gettting low on HP or needs a rez, and ALWAYS focus on the tank during boss battles.

A cleric is NOT psychic and can't heal an entire group of 15 Keeping 4 others alive in a party, and the tank at the end is challenge enough. Also I'm the type I don't rev for stupidity (like that level 17 who just HAS to keep running up the stairs in Mara after being told stay down).

Also like was said if you can't get in a party.. you're on you're own, if no one wants you, should you feel obligated to help? Believe it or not, clerics stil lhave the same quests as everyone else.... we need X amount of mobs in a KQ too.

Also, people seems to think of clerics as a free ride.... you have HP stones and potions, use them! We have to use SP to heal and they cost as well. Being a cleric doesn't mean we go broke to keep people alive so they don't have to spend their money.

[Hydr0]

I'm a cleric and most of the time i heal all but not everytime i got power to this or enough sp.
so i just attack mobs.
I DONT HAVE TO HEAL.
I can heal myself and if i WANT i will heal others.
cleric not supose to heal everybody.. he can heal whoever he want.

[LostDEwind]

last night, i use my another account a acher go for a KQ...
the Slime KQ i particpate only have 2 fighther... the tank is our group...
and well the cleric doesnt heal other at all... well... even he had rarely lah...
Just keep fighthing those mob...

When we ask him to do so, u know what his respond...?

he said " i do not heal ppl, i just wanna kill mob"

Well, then why dont u choose fighther lol...

[cunnington]

As a cleric who DOES go attacking during KQ's there's a reason for it. At times I've had to play tank in Mara KQ's due to me having the most HP and def. Other times I'll attack and stop when I see a party member gettting low on HP or needs a rez, and ALWAYS focus on the tank during boss battles.

A cleric is NOT psychic and can't heal an entire group of 15 Keeping 4 others alive in a party, and the tank at the end is challenge enough. Also I'm the type I don't rev for stupidity (like that level 17 who just HAS to keep running up the stairs in Mara after being told stay down).

Also like was said if you can't get in a party.. you're on you're own, if no one wants you, should you feel obligated to help? Believe it or not, clerics stil lhave the same quests as everyone else.... we need X amount of mobs in a KQ too.

Also, people seems to think of clerics as a free ride.... you have HP stones and potions, use them! We have to use SP to heal and they cost as well. Being a cleric doesn't mean we go broke to keep people alive so they don't have to spend their money.

Man its like your my twin

[mikybee93]

Im a cleric, and a male too, but i've never tanked during KQ untill one guy told me to, then about 2 minutes later i stopped ;) Well, i've realised that a cleric is a SUPPORTING role, not a macho thing, but still and asset =)

[qwter55]

he said " i do not heal ppl, i just wanna kill mob"

^.^ ...hehehe... seen that when I run King Slime KQ. Level up, less people like that at higher level...lesser but still have a few.

[Jandalyn]

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Well, then why dont u choose fighther lol...

I get so tired of hearing this inconsiderate response from those who do not want to be responsable for themselfs. Maybe they choose to be a cleric so they can fight and heal themselfs.

Also remember that for those who use this response the same could be said to you only in reverse. "If you want heals then why don't you choose to be a cleric."

[Semaj]

as a general rule though, if your in a party as a cleric you SHOULD help keep your party alive, tank if you want, but watch your parties HP and heal them if they drop to low, its cheaper and faster to heal than to rez after all.
and i both tank and heal in both KQ and parties. if the mobs to great then ill just heal, but an extra mace doing dmg is always a good thing...

[qwter55]

as a general rule though, if your in a party as a cleric you SHOULD help keep your party alive, tank if you want, but watch your parties HP and heal them if they drop to low, its cheaper and faster to heal than to rez after all.
and i both tank and heal in both KQ and parties. if the mobs to great then ill just heal, but an extra mace doing dmg is always a good thing...


*Helin agreed with that. /nod for yes.

In certain situation when for example ... 2 mobs on tank... his hp going down...mage agro a respawn mob... you got one respawn on you also. Here is what I suggest you do, *if* your hp getting pretty low... use your judgement...you use hp stone/pot... you heal the mage ... after heal cooldown send the highest heal you have atm to the warrior... who is taking hit but hp going down slowly...spam heal the mage/archer... hp stone/pots on you ... big heal for your warrior...if you dont spam heal the mage or archer ... they will mostly die... if you have invincible... I either put it on the mage... or on the warrior ... after the mage get one shotted ... so you can revive the mage/archer ^.^ ... Yes, Cleric should carry hp pots and stones hahaha... hope you learn something ... if yes, good for you... if no ... *Helin smile

Yes some Cleric dont empower reduce cooldown on Heal...Just one question for these Cleric... tell me ... what skill you use the most? If I can put +15 empower point into Heal .. i probably will.

[Ueberbier]

Well i dont use points in reduce cooldown for heal. Reason is simple .I once put one point in it to see how much it does and seriously 0.1 second (dont accepted it then) per point is just to less to spend a point in it to me.If it would be at least 0.2 points getting you 1 sec lesser cooldown for 5 points i would do it, but c mon a half second ??? thats simply a waste of points you could have used better on other stuff like SP reduction for heal or making your invincible spell last longer.

[tingrui22]

Well i dont use points in reduce cooldown for heal. Reason is simple .I once put one point in it to see how much it does and seriously 0.1 second (dont accepted it then) per point is just to less to spend a point in it to me.If it would be at least 0.2 points getting you 1 sec lesser cooldown for 5 points i would do it, but c mon a half second ??? thats simply a waste of points you could have used better on other stuff like SP reduction for heal or making your invincible spell last longer.

is it 0.3 not 0.1

[xcedra]

Ok guys :

I'm not the best cleric around, I do a lot of mistakes. But I try to do my best and I'm not too bad either. And I'm utterly PISSED at a lot of you clerics:

A LOT, during kingdom quests, just spent their time hitting mobs while fighters and others die out.

Geez if you feel so much like killing things, killing before healing, BE A FIGHTER and not a cleric!

Here is my question where you in a party with any clerics?

I find it really hard to heal people not in my party for 2 reasons

1) I cannot see your health unless I have you targeted, that means i cant swap to anyone else to heal them. and thats so not going to happen.

2) I cant easily swap through friendly targets. I like to see a shift+tab or control+tab option for me to tab through friendly targets (as tab does for hostile ones)

in KQ's (my cleric is only high enoug atm for the slime one) I run around and kill things...until the boss, and only since i hit 15. when I was lower lvl I only sat back and healed but it wasn't needed really till the end with the amount of heal spam I saw.

my other thing is, we had a fighter we were healing. at least two other clerics were on him, but he must have had crappy df or health cause he was going down as fast as we could cast and it was useless. he siad "bad clerics" I say Bad tank. if you have less n 400 health at 14-16 use a scroll. if your not 14-16 and your main tanking the boss at the end... yea your prolly going down at least once.

last KQ we went in I did go up and start tanking the king slime but we had like, 8 clerics.

[SpiritS]

To some cleric who die during KQ becoz of wan heal ppl: remember our heal got 18m distance so even we stand far we can heal.So we hardly die in KQ.
And I dun think cleric cant fight during KQ,just stand behind boss and hit even though not strong enough but will help defeat the boss yet i still can do my part to heal the tanker while i atking.
Onli selfish or new cleric wont heal their ally during fight so dun blame cleric(some mayb not the cleric fault just the other player fault by cursing the cleric juz becoz i nv heal him.(personal experience:( ) and they just paying revenge.
So try to ask politely for help i beg all cleric like that,not simply yell and scold ask for help(No one like tat).
Lastly I male cleric.And to the all player in KQ,when there is just a cleric(onli one) in the KQ,prepare ur HP stone to use dun save anymore.

[qwter55]

last KQ we went in I did go up and start tanking the king slime but we had like, 8 clerics.

woot ... FUN ^.^


A mighty Warrior standing proud among Fiesta adventurer. He lift up his sword and say "I am a warrior... so I MUST tank (dont care the situation/circumstances)..."

Helin the nuts healer... /target that warrior ... /rofl (roll on floor laughing) ^.^

Warriors... tanking is FUN... but going crazy on dps without worrying about tanking is also FUN...If the Cleric want to change roll with you for some fun in KQ...why not? (provided the Cleric know what he is doing ... hahaha)