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mikybee93
09-25-2007, 01:44 PM
Why choose fighter?

Simply because fighters are ESSENCIAL for tanking.

In more detail, because fighters are the best meat shields. Nobody can tank the required damage for KQs later on.

If you like to be up close, never die, be needed and play a class that isn't overrated (the only one) fighter is for you, you lovable sack of meat!


Leveling and Quests

Leveling shouldn't be too hard. If you can find a party, it's even easier.
The best party for you is one cleric and one mage.
Questing should be easy as well. You should be able to complete all the quests within one level of receiving them.
By level 11 or 12 you should always have a party in KQ, just because the lack and need of tanks.

Skills

I would say go ahead get any skill you can, but especially ones that give you more aggro.
Reduce SP consumption on snearing kick 5 times, which reduces it by half, because you WILL be using that. Reducing SP consumption on anything else you use would be recommended too, because I would recommend AGAINST buying pots.
Also, as sphnyx said, save up your points for AoE skills. You can hurt, taunt, or stun multiple targets at the same time. Spamming all those is only possible with decreased SP use and Cooldown time.

You don't necessarily need slice and dice and other damaging, because you aren't supposed to do much damage. However it helps when you need to kill your shadow at level 20, and also when you're soloing.

Also, you should reduce cool down on concussive charge and spam that so nobody has a chance to hit you. I didn't use it much until the Maras revenge KQ, in which I used it on the really hard hitting mobs.
If you reduce cool down and increase effect time, it takes 15 seconds to recharge and lasts for 8 seconds. That means that you can stun someone and he only has seven seconds in between each stun to hit you.

Purchases

Don't buy anything until around level 15. At level 15, if you haven't gotten a level 15 sword with a plus from the KQ, go ahead and buy one (but not un upgraded one, it's a waste of money).
Later on, around level 20, you could try to add to your shields with Elrue, but don't spend all your money.

Stats

First off, never NEVER add anything into DEX. Here are some builds.

Pure STR- Wouldn't recommend it, you're a tank. If you want to do damage make a mage.
Pure END- Highly recommended. Get some HP for KQ and parties. The only thing is, soloing is a pain since you do next-to-nothing damage.
1:1 STR:END- Meh, I would recommend getting some more END, but if you want to solo all the way, this is the way to go.
1:2 STR:END- Recommended for people that aren't very social (just kidding). But if you can't seem to get a party very easily, then this is great.
25 SPR rest STR- This is good for a damage dealer. You'll need to buy pots, but as sphnyx said, 10% crit with an axe...
2:1 STR:END- This one seems pretty good, haven't tried it out myself. You get good damage but some health to back it up too.

Around level 50 or 60, you might be using a lot of pots. This is the time to add your 25 SPR for some nice crits, or get some nice rings and earrings.

Choosing a Weapon

THIS is what makes you a tanker, or a damage dealer.

One handed sword- Needed for tanks, you can carry a shield with this, reducing damage taken.
Two handed sword- Fast, decent damage, good pick for soloing.
Axe- This thing is UNDERRATED! Major damage, but slower than the 2 handed sword. It gives you a nice crit rate. I would say this makes u look tough too.

Jewelry

DON'T buy jewelry, until around level 25. If you do buy it, then get at LEAST +7. Don't buy a +2, then a +3 etc. and waste all your money.
I like to keep 2 sets of jewelry, one for tanking, and one for soloing. I would recommend +END rings, and if you WANT, +STR and/or SPR rings, but don't BUY three sets, try and find them.

Don't buy earrings (almost) ever, you get them a LOT in KQ. Around lvl 50, if you cant get any, then buy +HP & SP.





Want to help with this guide to make it AMAZING???

Please criticize this.
Please don't flame this.
Please give suggestions

Thanks to:
Mksphnyx
Wangfu85
yourmahder

I will be updating this soon, i would like questions from everyone so i can answer them in the guide.

Mksphnyx
09-25-2007, 02:03 PM
Some suggestions, For more solo oriented fighters, a 25 spirit ?? endurance build could also be nice, +10% crit is no laughing matter on a fighter with an axe. As for Skill empowerments, save most of your points for your AOE's, Demoralizing hit is great to max out in power, AOE taunt (cant think of the name) in cooldown, and Devastate in SP, Cooldown, and Duration, an AOE 10 target stun that last 8 seconds on a 14 second cooldown=win.

slickard
09-25-2007, 02:30 PM
There's more then one build for a fighter. Either you're a tank or damage dealer.

wangfu85
09-25-2007, 02:38 PM
i use a 2 to 1 Str to end stat, i like it. pot if you need to

and stats allocation should depend on the weapon that your using.

MorpheusX
09-25-2007, 11:34 PM
I'm a fighter with axe, so this is my build:

- 1:1 END:SPR.
- Equipment: +end ring or +str ring, + crit necklace
- Full empowerment to power hit skill (damage, cool down, sp consumption)
- All armor +3 or more

My max damage at lvl 24 is around 6XX with critical power hit.

When tanking I use double +end ring with vitality and shield scroll

yourmahder
09-28-2007, 07:23 AM
you know, i think 25 spr is a bit too much though. i'll like to see a 25 spr and full str figther in PVP=P but anyways, good guide, just wanna add that fighters need a decent amount of end and spr. like maybe a 1str: 2end: 2spr build would be good. that way you can tank anything, even magic (spr gives magic defense, and critical). Preferred that as much of your equip adds critical, cause your damage wont be much. also, i feel that shouldn't get snearing kick at lower lvl. cause you can lvl fast by leaching at lower lvls. why waste pots? instead add to cooldown and spr cost of slice and dice. add damage too. so at lvl 20 job, you can spam this skill on your shadow... or my frien's build was to put all on cooldown of concussive charge, that way your shadow has almost no chance of hitting you (or so i heard from him). so for all new fighters, please BEWARE of the common assumption that you only add END and fully neglect spr.

mikybee93
09-28-2007, 12:02 PM
well, it depends on what you want for your stats.
Also, i never got slice and dice, and dont really want it, but since you brought up your shadow, it makes me think about it...
Also, about concussive charge, good idea.

absolut
09-28-2007, 12:47 PM
So far every thing seems good. I have a lvl 26 fighter and most is for strength to kill but with a cleric near by at all times. I started a new fighter with all end except for 2 pts wasted on str. If you wanna be a stronger tank use rings with STR or a combo of rings with STR and END, also items in higher lvl quests have stat increases to help strengthen a fighter(i.e. Marlone weapons), so from now on all end is the way to go, i'll probably increase my STR to +5 and leave it alone (bonus damage at every +5 increment.)

Anferus
09-28-2007, 06:30 PM
My fighter has a 5-1-1 (str-end-spr) build, with 1h and shield. Not a very strong tank but very effective. With equips I total 8% cric. With the damage I'm able to keep monsters on me without have to taunt many times or not at all. Other than that I'm still able to solo most boss from mara to robo (non-KQ) like any pure End fighter can. If you use this build don't tank if you don't have to, but you can.:cool:

Deutchland
09-28-2007, 06:35 PM
MikeyBee this has worked perfectly on Anjoo


Legend: __ = Do NOT do that.
# = Damage dealer do.
&& = tank do it.

Do this all evenly.
Fighter:

# && Plus Str
# Plus Dex.
# && Plus End.
__ Int.
Consider adding sp when you get around to level 40.

EDIT:
Damage dealers use an axe.
Tankers use a 1h sword and a shield.

Another EDIT: If you messed this up, consider creating a new fighter, and transfer the stuff to him through storage.

mikybee93
09-29-2007, 02:06 AM
I agree with that, exept && STR? Nah, unless u rlly want to.

Added jewlery section, updated stats section

ratra
09-29-2007, 02:17 AM
lets play the game

mikybee93
09-29-2007, 05:03 AM
Yeah.... ive been playing =)

Mizuko85
09-30-2007, 04:19 PM
Hello, I realllly got a problem here...
Look, I'm a clever fighter lvl 28(current). Here's my state...

STR: +10
DEX: +6
END: +9
INT: +3
SPR: +5

HP: 850+
SP: 370+

The problem is I've already wasting 3 stats on INT...(due the earlier days as newbie)><. Still my character can be saved? I really love her! Took a lot of passion to build up her...I really want to make her a good tank that can deals moderate damage or a good damage dealer with moderate hp...

Please help me fixed her (if there's still a chance). I would appreciate any help/tips. Feel free to blame/curse me I you all think I'm idiot giving a wrong states to my character...

Shadowfiend
09-30-2007, 04:31 PM
Right know im building str/most end fighter. right know he's lvl 12 but i allrdy got 353 hp or more ( i dont remember) fighter like that is good for 2h sword.

cause he deals some dmg n hard to kill. I got 8 end n 5 str i need make more str for more dmg but, end is most !!!!:D

Shadowfiend
09-30-2007, 04:32 PM
Yes. dude my fighter is same only hes lvl 25 i kinda mest him up when i started but right now hes standing up. just as you lvl start adding some end and little str ( if u are a tank).:D

mikybee93
10-01-2007, 09:45 AM
Mizuko, it really depends. Are you having trouble with KQ? Or leveling? Dying alot? Not doing much damage?? If so then i would consider making a new one.
If not, then keep it. Once you get bored of that char you can make a new one, but if u dont want to waste any time then keep lvling that guy. Good luck =)

Falcomist
10-02-2007, 10:27 AM
here is a general build of my char ^^.

its a lvl 46 End/SPR build ^^.

Basically what i have is

End +40
Spr+11

I find it to be useful because the crits makes up for the dmg from STR EVEN THOUGH ur not getting crits all the time.

This is why i have a zombie king and Goblin king Ring

gobling king: +14 end +10 spr
Zombie king: +12 end and +10 spr.

Im really enjoying my build for this char but its just slow when ur soloing ^^.

I am a lot more dependent on a party, such as mages and archer since there actually meant for the dmg dealing.

anyways my build at lvl 46 I have about 1650+health and 700+ SP and I can basically tank almost 6 ogres with a 1h/shield and a good cleric.

This build is nice when partying with dmg dealers. However this build is seriously not good for pvping another warrior who isnt a END build.

I just wanted to share a background of my warrior ^^.

Goodluck! to everyone who is trying to find the perfect build for fighter ^^.

MyYing
10-09-2007, 11:55 AM
Hmm...Ive been thinking lately(since my convo with stunnerz at lvl 20 to be precise).
I'm LvL 41 pure STR and for me it works cuz id much rather solo or pt with one cleric (or two the more the merrier xD ). Anywayz I've been thinkin that maybe there are 2 perfect builds (crazy as it sounds).

Reason I say this is because I was planing on doing +25 SPR once I hit 50 STR (at lvl 45) and doing 20 END till 90 (assuming 90 is still the lvl cap) This build has been bothering me though so i need others input on how they think it will pan out or should i continue to do the all STR.

The second perfect build I've been pondering about is reffers to my all END fighter. It's basically the opposite of my STR fighter where I would put 50 END into him (assuming 50 gives me the extra 250hp and def correct me if I'm wrong) and putting 25 to spr and the rest to dmg or going neautral and doing the rest to dmg.

Well really i just want others input first b4 i go ahead and do it (preferably input on the all END fighter would be better) I've pretty much made up my mind on MyYing though I'm still skeptical.

p.s. i know i called these perfect build only because thats my opinion w/e build you choose has its own perfections and/or imperfections so pls dont flame ^.- b

MyYing
10-09-2007, 12:11 PM
Ok after forum hopping I saw som1 say that after LvL 25 you dont get the good SPR boost from adding into it as apposed to starting from lvl 1 and puting into SPR...is this true? If so then I'll have to revise my plans for my fighters lol

Xevran
10-11-2007, 08:26 PM
Pure STR- Would'nt reccommend it, your a tank, if you want to do damage, get a mage.
Pure END- Reccommended. Your a tank! Get some HP. The only thing is, soloing takes a little while to kill things.
I never knew fighters were made only to tank...

Tasuke
10-11-2007, 09:34 PM
This fighter guide is just opinion based.

Go out and experiment for yourself.

Some people just like certain builds better than others.

071287dl
10-15-2007, 04:56 PM
i will asking this noob question so stick wit me... 1:2 str/end wat do u mean 1:2? does u mean ad 1 point in str and 2 point in end? pls explain for this noobie

Zaane
10-16-2007, 02:51 PM
i believe it means for every 2 points you put in end you put 1 point in str.

Iyeru
10-16-2007, 03:22 PM
FiestaFan is a better place to get information though >>;

Lebatt
10-20-2007, 01:03 AM
My build is this..

I am full end.

But I have armor almost every peice has stats.

Sword has STR 17 Dex 11, Hide armor has STR11 Dex 5, Pants have Str 9 or something, Shield has Str 6 Dex 3,
Then 2 Shining roumen rings, Hp SP +50 earring with Crit 1%,

I am trying to find boots and helmet with stats lol.

But I am playing a tank and I can handle a whole lot of damage and I am only lvl 31. I have approx 358 def and do ???-331 dmg. I cant recall the first Number.

It all depends on what you get as armor and stats as well.

Incase any questions. I earned all the copper/silver in this game for my character.

AdamWest
10-20-2007, 02:17 AM
adding str is pointless.

think about it. it's 1.2 damage per str point added. so you added 50 points and you have an extra 66 points of damage. thats neat but do you think people will really notice a fighter with 1066 damage over a fighter with 1000 damage?

adding end is good if you're set on being a party tank. i wouldn't suggest adding end if you dont plan on using a 1h+shield however, as you lose the extra block rate that end gives you

putting 25 into spr is a plus. fighters have crap for SP stocks, and no m. def. SPR adds to both of those and gives you 5% crit rate.

if you are set on using an axe, 5-10 dex may be useful, but power scrolls can get the job done.

INT, you obviously dont touch, you have no magic attacks.

so the moral of this story? at later levels, stat points are basically meaningless. allocation of skill points is going to be much more important. my suggestion for that is to just save them. Wait till you see some of your higher level skills before you decide what to empower.

Kazuya372
11-17-2007, 03:19 PM
only question i have is how would you do the 1:2 STR END thing? PM me instead of posting on here please

BlackImpact
12-30-2007, 07:26 AM
wat is end =? i play solstice n i jsut started i nvr saw a word name end in stat

DaViO
12-30-2007, 09:00 AM
enter please http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?p=292665&posted=1#post292665

Shadowfiend
12-30-2007, 09:21 AM
Ok.... I got lvl 43 fighter and I love playing him :D. I solo in cp alot. Dont rly like parties cause they all ways want seq allocation. Im 1:2 str end fighter.
Little messed up stats (putted some in every thing so I need get stat reset scroll ><) but works for me great. I am 2h sword but I also use 1h n shiled for tanking in kq or in high lvl areas. Also because 2h sword is still bugged (some of the skills froze you up). I would recommmend decrease sp usage for dmg skills Like slice and dice or power hit , also reduce sp usage for devastate.( you wont need stun when you get devastate ) . When you get devastate u can remove stun from your bar, u wont need it any more because as soon you use devastate or stun they both cooldown ( mean at same time). Also I would recommend to decrease cooldown of devastate, it will help you ALOT. If it coolsdown faster u can stun ur enemy continuesly. About pure str fighters .PURE STR FIGHTERS ARE ABSOLUTLE USELESS !!!you wont be needed at all because cleric would tank better then you. You wont be able to solo at all.
Pure end : Id say those are rly good as tanks, but you rly need to be party animal for that xD. For pure end solo you can use axe or 2h sword, but if you use 1h n shield it will take you a bit of time to kill.

Shadowfiend
12-30-2007, 09:24 AM
wat is end =? i play solstice n i jsut started i nvr saw a word name end in stat
Hey are you ok ? Have you ever learned to read ? This is fiesta thread. -.-

Kuydo
12-30-2007, 11:16 AM
About pure str fighters PURE STR FIGHTERS ARE ABSOLUTLE USELESS !!! you wont be needed at all because cleric would tank better then you. You wont be able to solo at all.


I disagree. Pure Str fighters can achieve the def needed to tank with scrolls and having a one hand and shield. Also having a Pure str or other Str build makes one better at duo-ing not worse, as Warriors do not normally solo at higher levels.

thecheesenone
07-08-2008, 05:48 AM
Then what would be a good build for 2H sword, skill-spammer.
I've put some 5pt-STR : 5pt-END : 5pt-DEX : 5pt-SPR
Just to see how each one worked out. SPR and END help, STR not so much, and in every other MMO I play DEX is a must, but here a little worthless.
So, I've bought some reset (cheat) scrolls.....

thecheesenone
07-08-2008, 05:51 AM
btw I'm NOT going all STR, but want END and SPR. Is it good to go 1:1 END/SPR or maybe 2:1 END SPR? Don't care about solo or party...all-rounder maybe...

emma_
10-25-2008, 02:26 AM
Here's a nooby question fer ya :D
Question-What should be the average defense for a lvl 38 end fighter?

genzuu
11-30-2008, 03:23 PM
I really just alternate between Str and Spr So that i can deal damage and have a higher critical rate. I'm your average warrior.

Kyo_Sama
12-02-2008, 02:34 AM
full str fighter w/ +9 gears make just as fine a tank as any full end.

been there doing that :)

so dont advise against it its a valid build.

fpser
06-17-2009, 03:17 AM
OK IMO best tank all end and 25 spr done and dusted nothing beats it but i have a fighter with +33 str and getting 25 spr with a +9 but its lvl 30 if i had a lvlv 40+9 i wuld own i dow so much damage its not even funny i can tank rob with my 2 +11 end rings and buff and some scrolls not to hard i have like over 2k hp with that so i can tank robo this is the best build for DD since u can have 2 endurance rings to help u out nad endurance equips i do so much damage i can kill mobs over my lvl only if i use lvlv 40+ 9 its hard wiht lvl 30 +9 axe a bit weak and low aim

azoalosi
06-17-2009, 09:40 AM
I disagree with u when u say "dont add Dex in ur build". Dex on a fighter MURDERS!!! here are some good Build with Dex

2:1 Dex:Spr- this is my build. at lower lvl (around 20-) u will have SOME difficulties but after, around 25+ u will pwn (weapon- any, depends on situation)

2:1 Dex:End- good tank build, Moderate Defence Backed Up with Good Evasion and Aim (weapon-1h/shield)

2:3 Str: Dex- not so much Tank as it is DD. Well Balanced Between Atk and Def (Weapon- 2h Sword/Axe)

2:3 End: Dex-Upgraded Form of 2:1 Dex:End, Focuses More more on Defense then Evasion and Aim (weapon-1h/Shield)

Well, those are some great builds with Dex. Hope U Enjoy Them ^^

pheseus
06-18-2009, 02:27 PM
I happen to like the Spr-End build 1-1 works great good crits=]

molineaux8
06-20-2009, 09:33 AM
why do u say to never never ever put dex into your build? imo dex is probably the 2 or 3rd best build. Pure end is first, 25 spr rest str and full dex are tied for 2nd. i dont see why u are dissing dex

zues8844
06-20-2009, 09:36 AM
You apparently dont play enough........lol.

My fighter, full +9's, axe user, 25 spr rest str, easily pops a t3 and tanks better than most 1h full END users. Fighters can be amazing DD's and tanks at the same time. So dont be saying fighters aren't meant to be DD's. The whole "omg you can be a gladiator @ 100" thing kinda screws up your whole guide. If we're not meant to be DD's, why in god's name do we have a DD branch instead of a tank and some other random pointless branch?

molineaux8
06-20-2009, 11:36 AM
well with t3 scrolls and full +9, anyone can tank.. you act like since you have maxed out +9 gear, your so much better but if at 4x i had the same gear as a axe fighter with whatever build, id demolish him. im pure end btw and ive had plenty of fbz with people higher then me that think their BA cause their +9 axe. my weps are anything and i can hold my own without extenders or charms.

zues8844
06-20-2009, 11:39 AM
Yeah sure lol......with 1h's, I could shroom up and go afk for a few days, and unless you got some other people to attack me, you would never kill me.

Face it, fighters have too much str to be used as just tanks. And the attack on 1h's blows.......hard.

jmy1996
07-02-2009, 11:23 PM
what i did was simple, i went pur END until about 40, now im stopping END till i catch up to that in STR and SPR but pure END has worked wonders for me, i could kill hrakans at level 37 :D

mofo321
07-03-2009, 12:26 AM
Most people here talk about str/end pure tank pure DD, i am a lvl 45 DD/PVP fighter i have 15 dex 35 str i think.. anyways in every KQ i have done i have been the main tank and i use axe/2h, i use dex because i want to be able to hit things without having to scroll up all the time. I know the dex build is not very popular with most of the fighter community but it really works, to me the dex/str build is the ultimate DD/PVP build.

slick11777hoodlum
12-27-2009, 12:47 AM
Ok I want to be a damage dealer but I find that in kingdom quests I always wind-up becoming the tank(believe because i do the most damage). Im only lvl 14 with 14 points in str, is it possible to not be the tank or should I edit my stats to become a damage dealling tank? (I plan on using a 2-handed axe either way) If so any suggestions?

DemonBlitzKragor
12-27-2009, 06:29 AM
Necro.................. =w= And to answer your question anyways. It IS possible to Damage Deal and Tank at the same time.

kemo_sabe
12-28-2009, 11:59 AM
Necro.................. =w= And to answer your question anyways. It IS possible to Damage Deal and Tank at the same time.


Yes it is Just look at me. :D im a prime Example of a DD Tank.


50dex Full Str FTW

Zamacka
12-29-2009, 07:34 PM
such an epic necro>thread is from 2007 lol
-on topic, I think the guide is real opinion based, btw funny to see how people use to think back then, now to say ur a full end fighter and you'll be heavily critisized.

Shadowic2
12-29-2009, 08:48 PM
Die zombie thread dieee!!

*Beats it with a shovel*

Please do not Necro-Post.

-Closed-