Are clerics needed on the game?

[hunter6943]

It's come to my attention that a lot of people think us clerics are a waste of time. If so then i want to get everyone's thoughts about it right now. If we are a waste then we shall remember this when asked for a buff or aoe heal. Just leave your comments.

[Azalea_Raeka_Daear]

Shouldn't this be in the cleric class (http://www.outspark.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=29) discussion thread?

Personally, I appreciate a good cleric for duo-ing or partying.
I don't necessary NEED a cleric to lvl.
But I don't mind pairing up with a buddy cleric.
Soloing gets boring and lame after awhile.

<3

[NightRyda]

clerics are good for buffing people =)

[hunter6943]

at least we have one fan and im sorry if i have this in the wrong section of forums its my first thread lol

[princess_vivianne]

Im going to move this to the Cleric Class Discussion ^^

[Azalea_Raeka_Daear]

Offtopic::

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OMG Ryda,
Your siggy
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[hunter6943]

ok and sorry princess vivianne

sorry this is my first thread so i didnt know where to post it

[Empathys]

Yes, Clerics are needed.

[NightRyda]

Offtopic::

D<
OMG Ryda,
Your siggy
RAWR
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awww just quoting =D <3

[hunter6943]

thank you Empathys but why are we needed thats the point of this thread. I want honest answers

[NightRyda]

thank you Empathys but why are we needed thats the point of this thread. I want honest answers

to buff people who spam "buff plz"

[Renegadeoflife]

Clerics are the miracle workers of the Fiesta gameplay. For instance, there are things a tank fighter can't survive that a properly built and well-played Cleric can, and if you have ever been in a KQ that is short on clerics you will discover how bad it is without buffs and with no heals when your potions and stones can't keep up.

I play clerics exclusively, and whenever I hear someone dissing the class as useless I comment "Remember that when you ask for a buff or someone to resurrect you."

[NightRyda]

Clerics are the miracle workers of the Fiesta gameplay. For instance, there are things a tank fighter can't survive that a properly built and well-played Cleric can, and if you have ever been in a KQ that is short on clerics you will discover how bad it is without buffs and with no heals when your potions and stones can't keep up.

I play clerics exclusively, and whenever I hear someone dissing the class as useless I comment "Remember that when you ask for a buff or someone to resurrect you."

Ok that was a bit better put than my answer xD

[auralee]

1. to revive people
2. to buff people
3. to heal people
4. to tank
5. ftw

[hunter6943]

Renegadeoflife i couldn't have said it better.

[chester17]

There are always some bad egg in every class
there sure to be someone who will critise cleric
as long as u as a cleric, do your job well, heal, res, and protect ur party member (as in during KQ or party mission) u r fine

buff or not to buff, is up to u
someone ask for buff, u can ignore if u dun wish to buff, nothing worng with that
for me my cleric i solo when doing quest
but when come to party or KQ, i do my job, heal.
most important i feel is do ur job right.
the rest, whatever what other people like to say, is their mouth. just ignore
cleric are neeeded in fiesta

[hunter6943]

yet again another good answer for me being a cleric thank you Chester17 i feel better now

[Renegadeoflife]

Something too that is working against us is the 'bad cleric', that tries to solo in a KQ instead of dropping back to heal or insists on doing their own thing instead of working with everyone else to ensure success. Many of these leave people bitter about clerics, on the reason that a cleric that refuses to help them is no better than not having them at all.

Though usually after a few minutes of my supporting them, they realize they were totally mistaken. I may not be max level, but I certainly know what I am doing when it comes to playing my class. Been playing cleric-like classes exclusively since my first MMORPG in the form of World of Warcraft, where I played a Shaman who was both a healer and a fighter much like my current clerics are.

[hunter6943]

Ren that is a cleric fault. Me being a cleric will tell everyone what quest im on for th kq and if they want to join me on that quest then ok. if not ill do a solo im not joining kq unless i get a small chance to complete my quest

[ToshCrimson]

It's come to my attention that a lot of people think us clerics are a waste of time. If so then i want to get everyone's thoughts about it right now. If we are a waste then we shall remember this when asked for a buff or aoe heal. Just leave your comments.

all i have to say is LMAO clerics not needed...... thats funny......... Clerics will always be needed. I love clerics. That is all.

[SweetLavender]

depends on the lvl range in my opinion. there are usually more clerics in the lower lvls than the higher lvls

[chester17]

no matter how good u r
how godly ur gear are
how rich u r
how many SC pot u have, u still need cleric
u gonna solo all the way without cleric healing?
then i think OS will love u alot, and give u a MVC (Most valuable customer) award
one month i think u will spend maybe $500 on SC
which OS i think will love u alot
THere alot of pple who keep thinking they are charm, they are wear godly armor, they are the best.
There always someone better than u
even there is none, u cannot beat a party.
1 man can never beat a grp of pple
if u think u r damn strong, come challenge me.
i form a party, and we see who die.
no matter u r cleric, fighter, mage or archer
pvp u can be the best, or one of the best
but in fiesta game play, u r not. Cos party is another mdoe of game play in fiesta
No matter how strong u r, it not possible for u to beat a party
If u r capped, can u beat a party of capped people also?
i doubt u can
so for those who think they are very good n strong, think twice.
be humble, no need to show off. when come to KQ, teamwork.
if u think u can solo kq, and dun like teamwork, join KQ during off peak hour where there no pple
solo the whole kq urself.
if that made u feel happy

[spartan335]

Oo ofc clerics are needed in this game. In about every RPG game you need atleast one class that can heal or buff in some way. Clerics are useful aoe parties and especially at high lvl (i think) also the most part were a cleric is needed is at bosses.

Cleric FTW!

[solferina]

Okay, the next time people want to go after a boss, or in the next MD KQ, I think all clerics should just not heal them, lol. Imagine us not healing for an entire day, perhaps?
Maybe then they'll realize that they need us to keep them alive =x

[killerof_joy]

Well, if you think about it, another class could get through the game without a cleric at all. It would just take forever. People can beat Sipder without clerics, they can do bosses without clerics, and (if the tank is good enough and is willing to use pots and stones) they can do AoE parties without clerics. Clerics are not needed, we just make it faster and easier.

[whatever1234567]

My first char was a cleric so i never took them for granite sure some of time fighter don't need them but 95% of the time in a KQ a fighter will need a cleric to heal them. Unless they buy SC hp pots and if you do that you are jus a coward that wastes money

[Renegadeoflife]

My first char was a cleric so i never took them for granite sure some of time fighter don't need them but 95% of the time in a KQ a fighter will need a cleric to heal them. Unless they buy SC hp pots and if you do that you are jus a coward that wastes money

What is Scary is if you use those potions on a cleric. I did that in Robo KQ way back as a legit workaround for the normal cooldown of stones and potions, because when I got a pack of mobs on my tail I would just hammer them and start resurrecting people. Survived many a near-lethal pack of mobs that way, since the only thing that could kill me when I was spamming the HP potion was enough damage for a One-Hit KO.

Though the game would indeed be far harder for everyone else if we weren't around.

[seniorita_kirstey91]

Clerics are needed a lot. we are needed we're not useless no buffs without us no revives... no heals... no party buffs... it would be crazy

[yohannbiimu]

As far as I'm concerned, if there are no clerics in events like timed quests, then they will FAIL--end of the story. You can have all the fighters, archers, and mages you can imagine, but if there are no clerics in the mix, then it will whither up and blow away inevitably.

Really, I must compliment those here who are primarily clerics, because many of them have the patience and grace of caring social worker in Detroit, or someone who works and cares for retarded children. Too many other players of this game simply allow THEM to shoulder the burden of keeping everyone alive, or they come scurrying whenever they see a 50+ level cleric, barking like dogs or squealing like brats who want free ice cream.

Personally, if I see a cleric giving away free buffs, I'll stick around and hope they'll provide one for me, but I've stopped wandering around asking if I were a beggar panhandling for loose change a LONG time ago. This happens too often, and clerics must feel like they're supposed to be a free vending machine for everyone. Personally, I feel disgusted by the attitude of too many other players as to those who provide their services as a cleric--while at the same time TRY to have fun playing the game and advancing as far as they can go in it.

My hat goes off to you clerics. You are saints among savages.

[yohannbiimu]

Something too that is working against us is the 'bad cleric', that tries to solo in a KQ instead of dropping back to heal or insists on doing their own thing instead of working with everyone else to ensure success. Many of these leave people bitter about clerics, on the reason that a cleric that refuses to help them is no better than not having them at all.

Though usually after a few minutes of my supporting them, they realize they were totally mistaken. I may not be max level, but I certainly know what I am doing when it comes to playing my class. Been playing cleric-like classes exclusively since my first MMORPG in the form of World of Warcraft, where I played a Shaman who was both a healer and a fighter much like my current clerics are.

I must admit that I will feel deserted by clerics who feel like "doing their own thing" on a KQ; however, I do not know who it is who is playing. I do not know if it is someone who has been playing the same round of a quest three times, but hasn't gotten all of the stuff they need to simply move to the next round, and they're desperate to do so. Otherwise, there are some who primarily do not have the understanding that clerics have a definite FUNCTION within the game, and that is to keep the real damage-dealers alive so that the quest will ultimately succeed.

I wouldn't call all of these "bad clerics" bad. Some are simply not filled-in as to their "duties," or they do not understand the teamwork and cooperation involved in many aspects of playing this game.

[NimbusCloud]

dude, clerics are absolutely CRITICAL to any party. if you have no cleric, you can basically say goodbye to your exp if you're aoeing or fighting a boss.

[Sybraton]

u wnt an honest answer?? well here it is:

All class has its own equal importance.Clerics play a crucial role amongst all of da classes.nd yesh i was a fighter(quit playing fiesta) and i found dat wasting around 1g every week on jus stones wus not worth it at all..i used to pty along wid my wifey/my best bud...spent around a max of 200s on stones and saved a lot...nd dis is while grinding..

In an aoe pty clerics are needed...tanks, however strong and charmed, will need a cleric...ive tried every kind of pty schemes and never did as well as i cud have done wid a cleric on my team..

Kq clerics play crucially to buff,heal and save pty's @ss everytime they die(including me). at earlier lvls kq widout cleric = epic phail...ummm guess dats all theres is to it...

clerics are da driving force of a pty and duo...a well built cleric cn always grind alone and have a lot of fun..

and as ryda said cleric are required to spam heal,buff and res pty whnever they die(xD the most logical and simplest explanation of a cleric ^^)

[dogdogs]

Well due to the event that the cleric's are going through right now which I call "The cleric's great deppression," kinda true it is a waste of time, this event is the lack of people who actualy want to party with clerics. Many people only assume kq's and fighting bosses for quest but there are more than just that, what about grinding and questing many people rather not party cleric's for this. It is because they assume cleric's leech, loot and don't do their jobs right which is actualy very stereotypical for the average player.

And by being a party based class who won't be partied often anymore, we are forced to solo and with our horrible damage it takes forever meaning the waste of time. Other classes can take our roll with T3 scrolls which always work better than our buffs and stones/pots which replace our heals. And aoe partys? please mages and archers being the best solo and fighters built for damage and handling anything.

[Renegadeoflife]

I must admit that I will feel deserted by clerics who feel like "doing their own thing" on a KQ; however, I do not know who it is who is playing. I do not know if it is someone who has been playing the same round of a quest three times, but hasn't gotten all of the stuff they need to simply move to the next round, and they're desperate to do so. Otherwise, there are some who primarily do not have the understanding that clerics have a definite FUNCTION within the game, and that is to keep the real damage-dealers alive so that the quest will ultimately succeed.

I wouldn't call all of these "bad clerics" bad. Some are simply not filled-in as to their "duties," or they do not understand the teamwork and cooperation involved in many aspects of playing this game.

That is true, though a lot of these seem to be loners overall who want nothing to do with other people. Clerics are a good class for such people because they are self-contained and fully powered characters that can battle uninterrupted for hours on end.

The issue I have with them is strictly on the basis of in a KQ everyone needs to work as a team, and their attempts to solo usually result in them getting killed- they then ask for a rev which distracts the 'good' clerics from healing the team players. Back when I ran Mara and Robo KQs, I was finding myself lecturing such a person almost every KQ, and it usually meant nothing because even when I explained what clerics are supposed to do they were still bent on doing their own thing. It isn't that hard to ask your party members to aim for certain mobs after all, that's how I do my quests.

Something too though is we do get treated like walking buff dispensers all the time, in fact I won't buff anyone who just comes up to me and asks while I am minding my business unless I feel particularly generous like on a day where I've leveled or beaten a KQ. In fact in PVP areas people who ask me and use any form of netspeak or chatspeak are attacked instead of buffed, though if you ask me right I might buff.
It's annoying though because the only way I can go to Roumen without getting mugged for buffs is to take my hammer and shield off so that they don't know I am a cleric of suitably high level for buffing.

On the partying thing, I haven't noticed any problems. I just go to the field I am to be training in, shout once with level, class, and what I am hunting for, and 9/10 times I'll get rewarded with a party invitation. Gotten into several very potent AOEs lately that way.

[dogdogs]

Many only just assume kq and thats it, but with the more important, questing and grinding many people would rather solo. I mean the best soloers in the game archer/mage would rather solo for the exp benefit and the huge mobs. And fighters? I know tons of fighters who would rather solo because fighter's are already built for handling anything. So cleric's are so far a waste of time with bad damage and having no party. Until,"The Great Cleric Deppression," is over, its a waste of time.

[saint_attila]

Alright here we go.

Clerics are needed. And usually the people that ask for Clerics, at least in my case, are Archers and Mages. The only time a fighter will want me in their party is when the fighter is a friend and/or knows how good I am. But a Cleric is important, because without us, you'll burn so much money on stones and pots that you will never really be able to afford anything. Also, Clerics have really sweet looking skills and a lot of people like staring at them when I do chain healing.

And also, some Clerics do need to learn how to heal efficiently. I've gotten so that I take Cleric Apprentices and drill them on efficient Chain healing, something any good cleric needs to know. A simple, yet effective, chain for a level 41 cleric would be, for example, restore, heal, rejuve, heal, restore. This is something a lot of new clerics just can't do. D: Heck, I can chain skills for so long I use up an entire SP bar. And by that time, everyone is fully healed and buffed. So...really.

But that was a bit off topic there. D: Sorry. But yes, we are needed. If we weren't here, this game would be so difficult it would not be funny. Can anyone say 25s for one T1 hp pot?

[dogdogs]

dude, clerics are absolutely CRITICAL to any party. if you have no cleric, you can basically say goodbye to your exp if you're aoeing or fighting a boss.

Mage and Archer's are awsome soloers, I don't really think they would die often. Even a mages squishyness, there are scrolls which help out with that. And fighters? yea they built to go through anything, not much of a problem.

[hotsnowman]

yes clerics r very useful i remeber back in the old days when there were tons of good players that didn't really need clerics much but when they did have a cleric they didnt need to worry about there health cause the clerics knew there job and could do it successfully.
but nowadays the cleric class has been massively over populated and there quality has declined as well. I know many people say that clerics r useless but that's probably out of spite when there mad cause either you suck as a cleric or they suck as a tank
but then again on the other hand...
ARCHERS FTW

[hotsnowman]

Mage and Archer's are awsome soloers, I don't really think they would die often. Even a mages squishyness, there are scrolls which help out with that. And fighters? yea they built to go through anything, not much of a problem.

i wouldnt really say that cause some fighters may be able to solo quit nicley and archers can kite but dont 4get that mages and archers have extremley lower Def(except hotsnowmen the amazing tank archer) and unless ur a low lvl scrolls dont really even it out quiet good enough. also they have an abnormally low storage amount of HP stones. and in the long run if they have to keep running back and forth from grinding and restoning and buying pots and scrolls the Exp wouldnt be nearly sufficient enough compared to the amount of Exp u could get from duo'ing with a nice cleric

o and btw every fighter that has been on the wrong end of hotsnowmens bow has sufford thanx to poison. also even the great Mr. Taco had a squishyness problem and hes one of the best dang fighters to hate a 2h.so basically im trying to say that any class can be made stronger with a cleric in party.

[resigood]

clerics and mages are the best duo, without clerics mages cant mob
without clerics, it costs archers loads to kite solo stoning

without clerics fighters cant tank as easy
in kkp kq there is a stone delay, without clerics heals, fighters will probably die tanking

Clerics are healers, they will always be needed

their AoE heal is better than mock, they could even make fighters redundant

[soccerbabe5476]

if thre wre no clerics ppl would be wasting money on stones cerics r a huge help .................even when hte ceric trys to help the ohter ppl in hte party say "just heal"

[kryptobison]

look we can do any quest with out a cleric but unless you want to wait until your like lvl 27 to do a quest you got at lvl 17 you need there help to keep you alive or if you want to spend endless amounts of money on scrolls potions and stones then you need their help just saying and thank you to all the healers and buffers out there we tankers love you.

[dogdogs]

look we can do any quest with out a cleric but unless you want to wait until your like lvl 27 to do a quest you got at lvl 17 you need there help to keep you alive or if you want to spend endless amounts of money on scrolls potions and stones then you need their help just saying and thank you to all the healers and buffers out there we tankers love you.

Err...not true, I actually did all my quests from that level and fairly fast with my mage alt but for my cleric? it was a time waster no one wanted to party/

[dogdogs]

i wouldnt really say that cause some fighters may be able to solo quit nicley and archers can kite but dont 4get that mages and archers have extremley lower Def(except hotsnowmen the amazing tank archer) and unless ur a low lvl scrolls dont really even it out quiet good enough. also they have an abnormally low storage amount of HP stones. and in the long run if they have to keep running back and forth from grinding and restoning and buying pots and scrolls the Exp wouldnt be nearly sufficient enough compared to the amount of Exp u could get from duo'ing with a nice cleric

o and btw doodoo dogs every fighter that has been on the wrong end of hotsnowmens bow has sufford thanx to poison. also even the great Mr. Taco had a squishyness problem and hes one of the best dang fighters to hate a 2h.so basically im trying to say that any class can be made stronger with a cleric in party.


Archers can run and with speed scrolls it's a no problem for health, mages? they have a different style of mobbing but T3 scrolls, charms or even extenders work magic. And in aoeing or kiting your only using one skill so stones don't become a problem for anything making the exp pretty effecient and high, mages can handle an equaly large mob and with the helpings that I said at the start it's not a problem, many mages would also prefer potion production as well.

And btw,"doo doo dogs," is just low. And I don't really know what a hotsnowmens bow or who is, anyway if it's some monster or quest or whatever a poison for 4 minutes is not really a lot.

[hotsnowman]

Archers can run and with speed scrolls it's a no problem for health, mages? they have a different style of mobbing but T3 scrolls, charms or even extenders work magic. And in aoeing or kiting your only using one skill so stones don't become a problem for anything making the exp pretty effecient and high, mages can handle an equaly large mob and with the helpings that I said at the start it's not a problem, many mages would also prefer potion production as well.

And btw,"doo doo dogs," is just low. And I don't really know what a hotsnowmens bow or who is, anyway if it's some monster or quest or whatever a poison for 4 minutes is not really a lot.

ehhh hotsnowmen is a pwnage archer hero of mine. and kiting isnt 100% healthy u still get hit u only said sumthing about the SP stones. also if u didnt notice u would have to spend lots of money just to try to reproduce the duty of a cleric both ig money and rl. i myself dont rely on clerics much or even like playing on them(but thats cause i find them boring but that has nothing to do with there usefulness). and i know thats very low ^^ i like being creative. but u know wat they say lay down with the dogs get up with diarrhea.

[dogdogs]

ehhh hotsnowmen is a pwnage archer hero of mine. and kiting isnt 100% healthy u still get hit u only said sumthing about the SP stones. also if u didnt notice u would have to spend lots of money just to try to reproduce the duty of a cleric both ig money and rl. i myself dont rely on clerics much or even like playing on them(but thats cause i find them boring but that has nothing to do with there usefulness). and i know thats very low ^^ i like being creative. but u know wat they say lay down with the dogs get up with diarrhea.

Well actualy the balance of drops, such as the high level ones and mediums would make up good money so hp stones won't be such a huge problem. And a speed scroll with the fact that natures mist is 13.5 meters in range is the perfect duo for the least hits, and potion production will make hp pots for helping and scroll production just for option if your to lazy to look at those one billion stores full of T3"s XD. And yes free of creativity exists in the 21rst century but not creativity which creates a negetive effect on the thing you base on.

[hotsnowman]

Well actualy the balance of drops, such as the high level ones and mediums would make up good money so hp stones won't be such a huge problem. And a speed scroll with the fact that natures mist is 13.5 meters in range is the perfect duo for the least hits, and potion production will make hp pots for helping and scroll production just for option if your to lazy to look at those one billion stores full of T3"s XD. And yes free of creativity exists in the 21rst century but not creativity which creates a negetive effect on the thing you base on.

actually it wasnt really negative its just a immature child attempt at attention. also wat about the lvls leading up to that and with the ammount of noobs populating Isya these days its hard to have a good kiting place w/o getting ks'ed. and how common r the actual good drops that u can sell quickly. and at high lvls the most common drops r either for clerics or Int swords.

[UzumakiW]

It's come to my attention that a lot of people think us clerics are a waste of time. If so then i want to get everyone's thoughts about it right now. If we are a waste then we shall remember this when asked for a buff or aoe heal. Just leave your comments.

My comment:

There are way too many threads being made all the time regarding this topic and similar topics about clerics.

[hotsnowman]

My comment:

There are way too many threads being made all the time regarding this topic and similar topics about clerics.

UZU long time no see

[runescaper34]

I think clerics are needed because they realy help out when u dont have any HP pots and a lot of ppl beg us for buffs so i think they are needed


PS. how do u guys get those pictures in the bottom of your posts and where do u get pictures of ur person from

[runescaper34]

I think clerics are needed because they realy help out when u dont have any HP pots and a lot of ppl beg us for buffs so i think they are needed


PS. how do u guys get those pictures in the bottom of your posts and where do u get pictures of ur person fromCleric 4x apoline zarion

[Oirasse]

Clerics are amazing for buffing people, and I can aoe more 2x more mob with a cleric... and spend 5x less stones.

Still, soloing can be fun too, especially when you get amazing drops! XD

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

Clerics are ESSENTIAL they are the backbone of every party and the loyal buddy in every duo. Clerics make everything easy they are the best support class there is. Without clerics massive AoE parties in the Abysses would be impossible since the squishies would die (like me xD).

Also my wifey is a cleric and shes the cutest thing ;p

[dogdogs]

actually it wasnt really negative its just a immature child attempt at attention. also wat about the lvls leading up to that and with the ammount of noobs populating Isya these days its hard to have a good kiting place w/o getting ks'ed. and how common r the actual good drops that u can sell quickly. and at high lvls the most common drops r either for clerics or Int swords.

Well the amount of noobs does not really matter since other than being a good kiter or aoer they wouldn't be able to handle as many mobs as a mage or archer could or even fight fast enough before they take it back. Ksing won't be such a big deal..i mean a fighter mocks it but can they handle it for so long, a cleric has not way of getting that many just being able to handle them. And yes it is common for those drops, actualy very common. And at high levels I don't get how you can just assume for no reason that the greens dropped would very well likely be for just a cleric or a fighter.

[hotsnowman]

Well the amount of noobs does not really matter since other than being a good kiter or aoer they wouldn't be able to handle as many mobs as a mage or archer could or even fight fast enough before they take it back. Ksing won't be such a big deal..i mean a fighter mocks it but can they handle it for so long, a cleric has not way of getting that many just being able to handle them. And yes it is common for those drops, actualy very common. And at high levels I don't get how you can just assume for no reason that the greens dropped would very well likely be for just a cleric or a fighter.

actually i was saying that most green drops at the higher lvls r for clerics and fighters.and they dont need to take the agro just to ks, they can just attack while we r trying to kite. like a fighter can deva them and keep attacking till stun wheres off, or they might even pick sum monsters off by attacking them with there running skills.

[Crystall]

If Fiesta didn't have clerics I think the entire net of players would turn into monster chow withing 20 minutes. Sure everyone yells at the clerics for that one time they didn't buff, or the one time their hands couldn't click keys quick enough but seriously, the other classes depend on that healing power.

[bradleyoldford]

It's come to my attention that a lot of people think us clerics are a waste of time. If so then i want to get everyone's thoughts about it right now. If we are a waste then we shall remember this when asked for a buff or aoe heal. Just leave your comments.

without clerics fiesta would die sure theres hp stones...with a cooldown but imagine if no clerics joined a kingdom slime quest do u no what would happen!?!?!?!??!? MADNESS how could u even ask that question..-.- im ashamed (sadface)

[threewishes112]

It's come to my attention that a lot of people think us clerics are a waste of time. If so then i want to get everyone's thoughts about it right now. If we are a waste then we shall remember this when asked for a buff or aoe heal. Just leave your comments.

Don't take a grudge personally against someone who has no brains on someone who nicely asks for a buff. As far as I know, reveange is not the answer to solving the problem if you're thinking about "getting back" at someone. It will damage our reputation further more and possibly start a big flame war.

Lastly, there have been three other posts on the same issue already, could you maybe reply and share your comments on one of those threads next time? Thoughts don't need to be shared three times to be considered valid. ._.

When the answer is obivous to your question, repeatedly asking for an answer is asking for a flame war also. v.v

-threewishes112