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shineshine
09-25-2007, 04:40 PM
1.Why is archer damage so low? A mage of lvl 3 could kill the monster I was killing faster than I could.

2.When you finish the Lvl 20 Advancemnt Quest or something you get to choose between two weapons. Which is better of them?

3.Would a Pure SPR build be good with 10 points on END be good, or is END useless for archers?

nintendo962
09-25-2007, 04:43 PM
well the first one i know the answer to.Archers have a low damge ratio.but high hp.mages have very high damage ratio.

WNxOddJob
09-26-2007, 11:58 PM
1.Why is archer damage so low? A mage of lvl 3 could kill the monster I was killing faster than I could.

2.When you finish the Lvl 20 Advancemnt Quest or something you get to choose between two weapons. Which is better of them?

3.Would a Pure SPR build be good with 10 points on END be good, or is END useless for archers?

1. Go pure strength for your first 10 levels, then come back and tell me what you think. Be sure to nab your skills at 3 and 5. If it's alive when it gets to you, you're doing something wrong.

2. I personally prefer crossbow, refer to the archer guide (http://outspark.com/fiesta/forums/showthread.php?t=11617) on these forums. Chriszed did a good job with what he wrote. He wrote about bow vs. crossbow to answer your question. It all comes down to play style.

3. Pure SPR + 10 end is going to add up like this:

From what I -think-, end gives +1 def every odd level (1, 3, 5) and +5 hp per level. So +5 defense, and +50 hp. If we're saying level 60 max (I don't know level cap personally), that's 50 spr, which is +10% crit rate.

Recap:
50 spr / 10 end
+5 defense
+50 hp
+10% crit ratio

shineshine
09-27-2007, 04:02 AM
So would 10 END be enough? Im deciding to go xbow because Chriszed wrote you can crit more and good if you want to spam skills.

Chriszed
09-27-2007, 05:18 AM
No. Only 25 SPR and in my guide i wrote DEX is better than END.

WNxOddJob
09-27-2007, 10:01 AM
So would 10 END be enough? Im deciding to go xbow because Chriszed wrote you can crit more and good if you want to spam skills.

Just found out that after 25 your spr to crit ratio drops...

So 50 SPR is in fact +7.5% crit increase. IMHO If you're doing a SPR build, I'd follow what Chriszed is doing with his:

25 SPR / 25 DEX, and then with the 5 bonus points go either 5 str or 5 end (I reccomended 5 str and then use some END rings to kick your hp up a bit).

The discussion of that build in more depth is at the end of his archer (http://outspark.com//fiesta/forums/showpost.php?p=95182&postcount=57) guide.

Roxias
09-27-2007, 10:49 AM
1. Go pure strength for your first 10 levels, then come back and tell me what you think. Be sure to nab your skills at 3 and 5. If it's alive when it gets to you, you're doing something wrong.

2. I personally prefer crossbow, refer to the archer guide (http://outspark.com/fiesta/forums/showthread.php?t=11617) on these forums. Chriszed did a good job with what he wrote. He wrote about bow vs. crossbow to answer your question. It all comes down to play style.

3. Pure SPR + 10 end is going to add up like this:

From what I -think-, end gives +1 def every odd level (1, 3, 5) and +5 hp per level. So +5 defense, and +50 hp. If we're saying level 60 max (I don't know level cap personally), that's 50 spr, which is +10% crit rate.

Recap:
50 spr / 10 end
+5 defense
+50 hp
+10% crit ratio
That would only be +7.5% crit rate. Endurance gives +1 def for every 2 points into it. Please do not reply to things you know nothing about, you will only cause more confusion.

WNxOddJob
09-27-2007, 04:15 PM
That would only be +7.5% crit rate. Endurance gives +1 def for every 2 points into it. Please do not reply to things you know nothing about, you will only cause more confusion.

Just found out that after 25 your spr to crit ratio drops...

So 50 SPR is in fact +7.5% crit increase.

In the post DIRECTLY above yours I corrected myself. Lurk before you post please, before you jump to flaming someone.

As for +1 per 2 points, I have +4 endurance right now, and I'll make a new character and screenshot it if you like, endurance defence rate goes up on odd numbered +'s.

1: +1
2: +1
3: +2
4: +2
5: +3

And so on.

So please, do not reply to things you know nothing about, you will only cause more confusion.

shineshine
09-27-2007, 04:40 PM
So your saying [Spr 25, Rest on DEX] is a much better build than [Pure SPR, END 10] ? People said DEX isn't much useful in the higher levels though.

Semaj
09-27-2007, 04:54 PM
they say that because the evasion isnt large enough to matter against higher level monsters. i donno, i dont play an archer, but i try to keep up on everything because ill end up trying them all.
also dex is the greatest increaded stat when you level. donno if its true, and me and some guild buddies are doing an experement, but ive heard dex also speeds up attack, which would make since, but we're not 100% sure yet...

WNxOddJob
09-27-2007, 05:26 PM
Never heard about the increased attack speed thing. As for Dex and Spr overall, I just don't think the fraction of a % per increase isn't worth the stat points.

aznhmg
09-27-2007, 05:55 PM
Going to try a pure Dex build soon to test which one shoots faster ^ ^ currently have 1 Archer so my next one is going to be pure dex..
see if the Dex speed thing is actually true...