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ToorimaKun
11-28-2008, 05:58 PM
i haven't been online for about 6 months or more and the servers were green.. and it was crowded.

now the servers are yellow.. and its not just one or two like normally.. its all of them... when are we getting new servers? i would say we need 3-4 new ones.

*this IS something that outspark can do.. i understand stuff like BALANCING the game is taking a bit because you gotta bug the devas but servers are outsparks job.*

whatever1234567
11-28-2008, 06:02 PM
More servers please get rid of all those really high lvl people so we can actually get into the pvp KQ

devin_nicolai
11-28-2008, 06:08 PM
Acually I saw apoline on high today

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jvless
11-28-2008, 06:13 PM
i think thats because nobody work and kids didint go to school for the holiday, so everybody is playing fiesta, wonder who is gonna be in christmas.

ahtai
11-28-2008, 06:16 PM
Well that will be server crash because even Europe and Asia is also on holiday not just US.

Raku
11-28-2008, 06:24 PM
Well that will be server crash because even Europe and Asia is also on holiday not just US.

Ya, but Canada's not, and it's the second biggest group that visits Outspark, so over the Christmas holiday's, the servers will be even more full.

Sockrawteez
11-28-2008, 08:37 PM
and really people new servers make EVERY server nicer, less people these currently messed up prices will go donw and besides less lagg and just plain needing them, a new server is fun =D fresh start..a shot at GOOD IGNs..new friends from all servers..proly bring new people aswell come one we NEED a new server or two ^-^

Shaden
11-28-2008, 08:47 PM
3-4 new servers? Lol.

Only need a single new server to bring them all down to low; that and Apoline needs to be moved to the bottom of the list because we have tons of newbs joining now that we are first in line. Not that we don't like them, but it is overwhelming.

saueracker
11-28-2008, 08:56 PM
One new server from time to time would help control the situation. and i mean every few months. not very often but enough to set the servers to low. I know not everyone has state of the art machines and the lag can seriously damage the gaming experience.

On a side note, I feel sick to my stomach thinking of how bad it will be for Christmas break.

Oh and I am Canadian as well and i would hate to imagine what it would be like if we all had holiday this weekend.

viciousrawr
11-28-2008, 09:02 PM
Feedback:
Lol I guess we could use another server.
At one point Fiesta won't be able to hold the growing population with 4 servers.

And if they decide to expand the capacity on the server
I can only think of a highly populated server with less training/quest spaces for people.
Almost like cramming people into a room

If a new server is going to be released, it should be around December because of the Christmas Holidays and the amount of free time a lot of Fiesta players have now to play the game or new players that become interested.

Anyway, that was just my opinion-based forecast
~Hope we get a solid reply from a administrator regarding this!

Andromeda
11-28-2008, 09:08 PM
Personally the current population of Fiesta wouldnt warrant a 5th server yet by far.

There is no problem when the population is at medium but if all 4 servers reach High then it would be questionable to add a 5th server. A majority of the time though its usually Apoline at Medium the most since its at the top and Ive only seen it at High once. Most of the time however all 4 servers are low.

A 5th server would screw up the economy even more than what it is now as it is. I dont even need to mention Kingdom Quests. You were lucky to get into KQs at one point even at late night in the US. But now you are lucky to even have the A slot fill to capacity

saueracker
11-28-2008, 09:14 PM
I think that they should begin working on it even though we are not all on high or medium all the time. by the time they get to it we will be on high. I know there are a lot of changes that they are undertaking and instead of waiting till the last minute...they can slowly undertake it and be pro-active.

There are so many unexpected occurrences lately i think it would be best to start things a bit earlier then planned and take the time to do it right.

Andromeda
11-28-2008, 09:18 PM
I think that they should begin working on it even though we are not all on high or medium all the time. by the time they get to it we will be on high. I know there are a lot of changes that they are undertaking and instead of waiting till the last minute...they can slowly undertake it and be pro-active.

There are so many unexpected occurrences lately i think it would be best to start things a bit earlier then planned and take the time to do it right.

We are only assuming that would happen it may not be as populated as you think as one of the servers is going to be pushed onto the 2nd page of the server list so the server in slot number 5 will most likely wont get any new people joining only the people who already play on the server

kimikawaii
11-28-2008, 09:20 PM
I think a couple new servers would be great, all of them being on Medium can be a problem, all the lag, and it could and will most likely cause a server crash. I don't see how it would mess up the economy, if high level people from other servers go on a new server, they will probably buy loads of charms to reach cap first on it. So yes, please another server or two.

saueracker
11-28-2008, 09:21 PM
hmmm...perhaps fi they can add a server they can enlarge the box with the server names on it?xD

Andromeda
11-28-2008, 09:27 PM
I think a couple new servers would be great, all of them being on Medium can be a problem, all the lag, and it could and will most likely cause a server crash. I don't see how it would mess up the economy, if high level people from other servers go on a new server, they will probably buy loads of charms to reach cap first on it. So yes, please another server or two.

You have to think about this from Outsparks point of view yet. They will be thinking is it worth adding 2-3 servers yet. If they see the current servers are enough they wont need to add a 5th, 6th, 7th server anytime soon. Also yes I know it will be more populated in the holidays but its wont be hardly any bigger than what it is on Weekends so the servers will remain at a constant medium pretty much.

Also do keep in mind Outspark have to pay alot more money for extra servers. So Outspark would only add more servers if its really needed.

Lety23
11-28-2008, 09:32 PM
Well, the reason they're all in "Medium" is because a lot of people are on break.
It was Thanksgiving yesterday, and it's the weekend.
But I know what you mean.
I've been a player for some time now, and even on weekend and Holidays it would never get this crowded.

However, it hasnt reached that point where a new server would be needed, in my opinion.

Raku
11-28-2008, 10:09 PM
First of all..They've all been medium for a week or two already. It's not only 'cause of the holidays. I've been noticing a lot of mediums lately.

By the way Andromeda, your logic is quite flawed..Because KQ's don't fill up fast, there aren't as many people playing? That makes no sense..Ever think people are getting sick of KQ's, since they aren't as worth it anymore since they can go to any abyss they want for a lot better exp, drops and money?

One new server would be good, even out the servers, as some people would change servers, and new users would come to the new server. If you mean skrew up the economy of ingame prices? Prices on new servers always start low, and they work themselves out to where the users of that server feel they should be.

Anyway..Hopefully we get a new server..

meaga
11-28-2008, 10:11 PM
how do i post on forum

viciousrawr
11-28-2008, 10:15 PM
By the way Andromeda, your logic is quite flawed

Lol quite true
I don't see how adding a server will ruin the economy of the game.


A 5th server would screw up the economy even more than what it is now as it is.
Not a good argument in preventing a new server

An economy is the system of human activities related to the production, distribution, exchange, and consumption of goods and services of a server.

Andromeda
11-28-2008, 10:40 PM
By the way Andromeda, your logic is quite flawed..Because KQ's don't fill up fast, there aren't as many people playing? That makes no sense..Ever think people are getting sick of KQ's, since they aren't as worth it anymore since they can go to any abyss they want for a lot better exp, drops and money?


Well I can see where you are coming from but its not as flawed as you think. Why do you think people do KQs in the first place? Its not always about Money and Exp. Most of the times its for quests but a majority of the people that do KQs now days do it for fun.

You are mostly right on the later KQs as far as exp is concerned but not for the early levels is what I was targeting at in the first place there. As I said before Kingdom Quests dont have to be done for only exp I never said they should only be done for exp. Ever think that people get sick of Abyss? I certainely did as I was capping my cleric.

coookies
11-28-2008, 10:41 PM
in my opinion we dont need a new server

viciousrawr
11-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Well I can see where you are coming from but its not as flawed as you think. Why do you think people do KQs in the first place? Its not always about Money and Exp. Most of the times its for quests but a majority of the people that do KQs now days do it for fun.

You are mostly right on the later KQs as far as exp is concerned but not for the early levels is what I was targeting at in the first place there. As I said before Kingdom Quests dont have to be done for only exp I never said they should only be done for exp. Ever think that people get sick of Abyss? I certainely did as I was capping my cleric.

This has nothing to do with the server being added
please keep on topic

Raku
11-28-2008, 11:17 PM
Well I can see where you are coming from but its not as flawed as you think. Why do you think people do KQs in the first place? Its not always about Money and Exp. Most of the times its for quests but a majority of the people that do KQs now days do it for fun.

You are mostly right on the later KQs as far as exp is concerned but not for the early levels is what I was targeting at in the first place there. As I said before Kingdom Quests dont have to be done for only exp I never said they should only be done for exp. Ever think that people get sick of Abyss? I certainely did as I was capping my cleric.

What? Early level? I took 7 days to get to lvl 50 without an exp boost card, or abyss one school week, and didn't do a single KQ..it's not like people in early lvls need to do KQs for EXP, nor do a lot of new people know how to enter KQ's or forget the time, or miss them.

Besides..the KQ's aren't even that fun. Only time I do them is for the quests I have, or for an item quickly(the MD earings), and not really any other than that.. But anyway..that's getting off topic.

The correlation between the amount of users joining KQs and the amount of people who play on the servers isn't great enough to be a good reason not to add another server.

The fact remains, the servers will more than likely keep growing at a good rate as more people find this game and join over time, and there will be need for a new server anyway.

You don't always wanna wait for all the servers to reach high before adding a new one, since the high populations make finding places to lvl hard already for some people, so new servers also help out that was aswell..

Just some stuff for you guys to think about ^.^

NightRyda
11-28-2008, 11:50 PM
What? Early level? I took 7 days to get to lvl 50 without an exp boost card, or abyss one school week, and didn't do a single KQ..it's not like people in early lvls need to do KQs for EXP, nor do a lot of new people know how to enter KQ's or forget the time, or miss them.

Besides..the KQ's aren't even that fun. Only time I do them is for the quests I have, or for an item quickly(the MD earings), and not really any other than that.. But anyway..that's getting off topic.

The correlation between the amount of users joining KQs and the amount of people who play on the servers isn't great enough to be a good reason not to add another server.

The fact remains, the servers will more than likely keep growing at a good rate as more people find this game and join over time, and there will be need for a new server anyway.

You don't always wanna wait for all the servers to reach high before adding a new one, since the high populations make finding places to lvl hard already for some people, so new servers also help out that was aswell..

Just some stuff for you guys to think about ^.^

Pvp KQ is fun!!!

Raku
11-29-2008, 12:28 AM
Pvp KQ is fun!!!

Not for me on a mage..but it ALWAYS fills up in like 2 seconds or less D:

Andromeda
11-29-2008, 01:23 AM
This has nothing to do with the server being added
please keep on topic

Neither was what you attacked me with when you lectured me about the meaning of the word economy :rolleyes:

What? Early level? I took 7 days to get to lvl 50 without an exp boost card, or abyss one school week, and didn't do a single KQ..it's not like people in early lvls need to do KQs for EXP, nor do a lot of new people know how to enter KQ's or forget the time, or miss them.

Besides..the KQ's aren't even that fun. Only time I do them is for the quests I have, or for an item quickly(the MD earings), and not really any other than that.. But anyway..that's getting off topic.

The correlation between the amount of users joining KQs and the amount of people who play on the servers isn't great enough to be a good reason not to add another server.

The fact remains, the servers will more than likely keep growing at a good rate as more people find this game and join over time, and there will be need for a new server anyway.

You don't always wanna wait for all the servers to reach high before adding a new one, since the high populations make finding places to lvl hard already for some people, so new servers also help out that was as well..

Just some stuff for you guys to think about ^.^

I'll finish by saying this. People don't always play the same way as you. People enjoy playing the game in different ways weither it be chatting alot or vendoring alot or whatever it is we all enjoy the game in a different way I hope.

We could compare Fiesta to many MMORPG games out there. The only unique thing Fiesta has made me start playing this game which is the Kingdom Quests.

I was simply just stating my reasons why a new server would not be needed at this time. I know a new server will most likely be introduced eventually. I'm simply stating why a new server would not be needed right now but maybe 4-6 months down the track. But ultimately its Outsparks decision if a new server is needed now or not. If they introduce a new server good luck to the community who enjoy playing on it. If not we still have 4 great servers to play on with very different communities in each.

This could be why they keep rotating the servers around on the server list so they can even out all the servers average population. To determine if and when a server is needed now or later or to limit it to 4 servers with keeping an average population on each to keep the lag down without spending money to run a 5th server anytime soon.

ishbabboon
11-29-2008, 11:11 AM
when all servers medium it is SO LAGGEY EXTREME lag i somtines can barely move and i get stuck in portal............. ADD a new server i think they should:eek:

saiyou8
11-29-2008, 12:52 PM
One thing that could make the lag a bit smaller is the auction house.
The lag near the vendors in cities is just terrible. If they made an auction house, the afk people could log out and sell their items at the same time. Vendors cause a lot of lag afterall :p
But yeah I agree, they should make a new server... ^^; Questing in Apoline is a pain when the server says High with a cr@ppy computer like mine. Im killing one mob, then the lag waves come.. Next thing I see is dead me surrounded by 10 mobs X_x.
So yeah, make a new server pl0x. ;_;

DF001
11-29-2008, 01:02 PM
a 5th server is a good idea, because all the good names are taken

legendarrow
11-29-2008, 01:06 PM
We do need more, but that wont happen, outspark will just jack up cash shop crap to double, more servers to deal with = more $ forked out.....
So for you retarded people who spend hundreds/thousands on cash shop, youll be paying double the price for less sparkcash then you originaly were, thats what happens when theres more servers to maintenance, prices on everything go sky high.

DF001
11-29-2008, 01:08 PM
We do need more, but that wont happen, outspark will just jack up cash shop crap to double, more servers to deal with = more $ forked out.....
So for you retarded people who spend hundreds/thousands on cash shop, youll be paying double the price for less sparkcash then you originaly were, thats what happens when theres more servers to maintenance, prices on everything go sky high.

Now now, let's try to be civilized. This will only start flames.

Anyways, I don't get what you mean..

saueracker
11-29-2008, 02:20 PM
I don't see why you think those who buy spark cash are retarded.

I do think the a new server should be considered, maybe even put in the works. We already know it takes forever for them to get anything done due to the amount of things they want to release.

A new server would allow better name choices, another chance to get the teva weapons XD, less lagg in all servers with the exception of the new one due to a large amount of players who wish to try the new server.

i doubt that there would be too many cons to it and i don't see why it is a bad idea to look into it.

zipiouch
11-29-2008, 02:26 PM
oooooooh! if we do make a new server, can we make it start with an H, so on the forums, u know how it says Epith's Empire, Apoline's Alcove...etc, it could say H_____(whatever the server name is) Headquarters, thtd b kool, i totally agree tht we should have new servers tho!!!!!!! <3333333333

Andromeda
11-29-2008, 02:30 PM
I don't see why you think those who buy spark cash are retarded.

I do think the a new server should be considered, maybe even put in the works. We already know it takes forever for them to get anything done due to the amount of things they want to release.

A new server would allow better name choices, another chance to get the teva weapons XD, less lagg in all servers with the exception of the new one due to a large amount of players who wish to try the new server.

i doubt that there would be too many cons to it and i don't see why it is a bad idea to look into it.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

buntd
11-29-2008, 05:48 PM
i haven't been online for about 6 months or more and the servers were green.. and it was crowded.

now the servers are yellow.. and its not just one or two like normally.. its all of them... when are we getting new servers? i would say we need 3-4 new ones.

*this IS something that outspark can do.. i understand stuff like BALANCING the game is taking a bit because you gotta bug the devas but servers are outsparks job.*

I think we don't need more servers.. but however ones that can take more capacity.
The problem is, currently there is no way to trade between servers.
And with all the inflation in prices, I would like more players to be able to play on the servers, hopefully this can help decrease inflation.

Also, the stability of the servers is bad. I have a average broadband connection above the min requirements, however I still have troubles logging in, get dced, lag for over 5 seconds.
Get other bugs like in the sky, the running bug, stuck at loading map, and my favourite go through SEG to CP portal, and ur in Elderine :P

This is causing Fiesta to be less enjoying to play :(
I have heard people have way worse problems, like last night I couldn't even help my friend do her quests because she kept lagging and dcing :(

Outspark need to invest some money in better servers :)

saueracker
11-29-2008, 05:53 PM
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Your point being?


If you are referring to SC purchases:

So what if they make more money? Those who want to spend can spend, those who don't, won't. Outspark needs money to run anyhow. We all know that money motivates.

If you mean the economy:

As for the economy, it'll balance itself. I don't think it will be a problem.The economy fluctuates all the time. Example: the blues a while back. Now with the gifting system some may abuse it some might not.

in general:

You've brought up your point numerous times and many of us don't agree that it will be a problem. You have made your point. Now if there is anything else that you would like to bring up, apart from the economy issues that you think might occur, then I would appreciate it.


New server or not there will always be a new situation which will affect us and our economy. Either way...I would prefer much less lag. With less lag I can grind longer without d/cing and dying, so in short I would make more money in the long run.

This is not meant to be mean in any way, it is simply my opinion.

saueracker
11-29-2008, 05:56 PM
I think we don't need more servers.. but however ones that can take more capacity.
The problem is, currently there is no way to trade between servers.
And with all the inflation in prices, I would like more players to be able to play on the servers, hopefully this can help decrease inflation.

Also, the stability of the servers is bad. I have a average broadband connection above the min requirements, however I still have troubles logging in, get dced, lag for over 5 seconds.
Get other bugs like in the sky, the running bug, stuck at loading map, and my favourite go through SEG to CP portal, and ur in Elderine :P

This is causing Fiesta to be less enjoying to play :(
I have heard people have way worse problems, like last night I couldn't even help my friend do her quests because she kept lagging and dcing :(

Outspark need to invest some money in better servers :)


sorry for the double post! <3


This is also a good idea. If Outspark would do either then i would be happy. I wonder which one they would be most likely to undertake though?

Eliexer
11-29-2008, 06:22 PM
I agree with this about making a new server but... I don't understand the fact that the servers has lots of people and its not like those peoples(especially High lvls) will move into the other server and start again from the begining. Some could actually start at other servers for fun of being the highest lvl in a server and playing non stop in it, but most people won't just leave their High leveled characters and friends.

Andromeda
11-29-2008, 06:31 PM
How many times must I bring this up?...

Plain and simple at this time Outspark don't even want to fork out money for another server anytime soon. Its blatantly obvious with the replies Saphar gave to some users after that Fire Nix event in Uruga and the responses he made. Outspark want more money they dont want to spend more money and then in another thread when people were complaining about the huge evasion increase in Guardians Holy Shrine and Holy Place of The Abyss. You know what Outsparks advice was? Buy stat reset scrolls and add some points into DEX

Weither you disagree with this or not the evidence is stacking up against Outspark in this manner...

Outspark are getting very greedy right now I'd like to hope they learn something from what happened but *sigh* they didn't. They want dollars its that plain and simple. Not to spend money running extra servers

Jesus you people are making me sound like a broken record needing to repeat the same stuff over and over pretty much.

Eliexer
11-29-2008, 06:39 PM
How many times must I bring this up?...

Plain and simple at this time Outspark don't even want to fork out money for another server anytime soon. Its blatantly obvious with the replies Saphar gave to some users after that Fire Nix event in Uruga and the responses he made. Outspark want more money they dont want to spend more money and then in another thread when people were complaining about the huge evasion increase in Guardians Holy Shrine and Holy Place of The Abyss. You know what Outsparks advice was? Buy stat reset scrolls and add some points into DEX

Weither you disagree with this or not the evidence is stacking up against Outspark in this manner...

Outspark are getting very greedy right now I'd like to hope they learn something from what happened but *sigh* they didn't. They want dollars its that plain and simple. Not to spend money running extra servers

Jesus you people are making me sound like a broken record needing to repeat the same stuff over and over pretty much.

If you don't want to sound like a broken record why repeat it? people want to hear positive things not stuff like this.

Andromeda
11-29-2008, 06:41 PM
If you don't want to sound like a broken record why repeat it? people want to hear positive things not stuff like this.

Tell that to Outspark

Lety23
11-29-2008, 06:58 PM
I wonder if poeple have any idea where the economy is at this point.

saueracker
11-29-2008, 09:39 PM
Outspark will soon realize they need to spend money in order to make it. It is called investing and once the servers are too full to fully enjoy the game, then they will have to.


As for you constantly repeating yourself, don't. We are simply discussing and you do not need to continuously try and stuff your ideas into our heads. Once said is enough.

Also, you do not work for Outspark, therefor you are in no position to tell us what they will or will not do.

On another note, let us keep this civilized. Forums are meant for discussion.

buntd
11-29-2008, 11:40 PM
hmm.. yesh this game is quite expensive to play.. compared to alot other similar online games..
you could spend $50 a month easily ( omg thats like my internet cost :P )

yesh one day they will realise to value ther players more.. hopefully soon

AlphaCentari
11-30-2008, 12:16 AM
We don't need new servers, we just need servers with more capacity and more copy maps like seg and the dark passages to make more room for all of the players.

Andromeda
11-30-2008, 12:30 AM
We don't need new servers, we just need servers with more capacity and more copy maps like seg and the dark passages to make more room for all of the players.

Brilliant Idea!!!

Instead of introducing new servers just increase the capacity of the current 4 servers. Its a win/win situation. This way we get less lag while at the same time the servers dont lose players. Even if a new server is introduced the new server will eventually become like the current servers we have with high level people patrolling every abyss for kill points and they economy will eventually become just as bad as the servers we have now.

Its also good for Outspark because they would save extra money instead of forking out money for an extra server instead they can pay just a little extra and have their server providers upgrade them to a faster server.

I love the map idea to it gives more people more room to quest/grind at also but the only problem is Outspark convincing Ons On Soft to implement something like this.

SKiNG
11-30-2008, 08:39 AM
We're actually looking at putting a new server. Just trying to find the right time.

DF001
11-30-2008, 08:41 AM
We're actually looking at putting a new server. Just trying to find the right time.

Now! 8D

chidoriattacker
11-30-2008, 08:43 AM
Lol yes now! Yesterday night i saw Apoline at High well it was spelled Ligh but it was high >.<

Raku
11-30-2008, 01:00 PM
Now would be a good time =D It seems quite a few people want it =o(even though there's ones who don't seem to...>.> )

palmfruits
11-30-2008, 01:18 PM
Although I think most of the lagging I experience is due to me comp, I think new servers would be beneficial. Most of the time my comp doesn't lag until after an hour of playing which gets somewhat annoying. But a new server right now may have bugs.... so if it's released in December, I'm thinking if the bugs arise, people will constantly report the same old bugs over and over on the forums (just like what we did during the beginning of Thanksgiving break, haha)

sonicweilder
11-30-2008, 01:21 PM
apo is on high today, and.. kicking the high level players would make people upset and just make more accounts for more lag and also they would lose money because we spend the most cash on suits/charms for pvp / helga

wdcefv1000
11-30-2008, 01:32 PM
Yea I think that new Servers would be awsome :D