Can cleric tank?

[Oalka]

Can cleric tank?

My cleric is lvl 14 now. So far, I've been pretty much adding to nothing but END, including my gear. My skill enhancement points went first into -SP cost for heals, and next will be +effectiveness for Protect.

My question is, in a party full of heavy damage dealers, can Cleric hold aggro? If so, how? Is there a provoke/taunt-type move that I don't have yet?

I only ask this because, up until yesterday, I have only soloed. I needed help taking down the Sharp Boar/Bored Boar group of monsters, so I got a Mage to help me. But he wanted me to just stand back and heal while he 'tanked' the mobs.

He came very close to dying. I was spamming cures as fast as I could, and he still had to use several potions to stay alive.

Wouldn't I have been better off taking the hits? I have a much higher defense than he does.

How do you tank in a situation like this? I'm very used to tanking in other games, but in this game I get lol'd at for wanting to do it with the highest DEF character in the game /shrug.

[qwter55]

hehehe ... ^.^

Can cleric tank?
-Depend in situation, this question just too general... again this depend on situation.

My cleric is lvl 14 now. So far, I've been pretty much adding to nothing but END, including my gear. My skill enhancement points went first into -SP cost for heals, and next will be +effectiveness for Protect.
- Full End... good for you... btw your can NOT Increase Effectiveness of Protect, as in make Protect do more Defense and Damage...so no, you cant increase damage+defence of Protect buff... you can empower increase buff duration and less SP thou.... but do actually want to do that?

(A little advice, if you are tempted to try Str ... get to level 22 and get 2 of +7 Str ring... yes, that is +14Str ( should be enuf to affect stuff for you to feel it , if it have effect)...put them on .. hit mobs... kill a few hundred ... remove them ... kill some more mobs... ask yourself ... Str good?... yes YOU decide but that is one way to test before you commit... the Reset Stat button does not work yet... and don't know for how long).

My question is, in a party full of heavy damage dealers, can Cleric hold aggro? If so, how? Is there a provoke/taunt-type move that I don't have yet?
- Depend... example you enter King Slime at max level ... 16/17 and all other are around 5-12 and the warrior either lower than 10 (that mean dont have Taunt skill) or they are not End build (meaning low hp) and dont have HP Scroll... its better off for you to tank ... provided you get to swing quite a few times on the King Slime before they start attack. So answer is Depend on situation. If you higher level and you attack first you will maintain agro...usually. NO, cleric will not have Taunt skill... that is why Warrior if spec right is always the better tank (Spec and know how to play, I seen warrior above level 10 that don't use Taunt, blur warrior ^.^).

I only ask this because, up until yesterday, I have only soloed. I needed help taking down the Sharp Boar/Bored Boar group of monsters, so I got a Mage to help me. But he wanted me to just stand back and heal while he 'tanked' the mobs.
-Depend... my my i think i am repeating that a lot ha? What is his/mage level... what is his MaxHP? Is he a nub, do he know what he is doing?
-You are level 14, quite sure you can tank solo them (the boar). So yeah you sure can tank for this. But if the mage is nub and dont know how to use the assist button/skill... you run in swing... agro 3 mobs... all 3 boar on you...the nub mage attack different mobs than the one you attack (meaning did not use the assist button)... he agro ... you heal your self... heal is on cooldown...the nub mage did not use hp pot/stone ... dead mage, and he start to curse you for not healing him... you solo them all... /point to the nub mage and /lol ^.^
-The Mage not nub, have high enuf level and MaxSP, he attack ... all 3 mobs on him...he go crazy dps.. bang bang bang... you heal him 3 times? ... the whole thing done before you know it... it can happen like this also.

He came very close to dying. I was spamming cures as fast as I could, and he still had to use several potions to stay alive.
The curse or poison will not kill him... it will bring his/her hp down to 1. If how ever a boogy nearby or any mob agro on him and wack him... its a one hit KO...but by then you will have say thx for party and be on your way right? No? Why? If you found out you party a nub, why would you stay after you finish your objective?
-He is great thinking player ... what you waiting for... click him .. right click his portrait...click Add... press F... there he is in your friend list.

Wouldn't I have been better off taking the hits? I have a much higher defense than he does.
Most likely but again Depend...nub can and will kill you... yes they do.

How do you tank in a situation like this? I'm very used to tanking in other games, but in this game I get lol'd at for wanting to do it with the highest DEF character in the game /shrug.
The circumstances where Cleric is a better tank in KQ or party situation is ...hmmm seldom?...Wanna tank? Sure ... make a Warrior...put End ... lots of them ^.^... you are allow up to 4 character per account and you can make lots of accounts ...yes? (I see you have a level 3 Warrior there taunt is level 10... go level).

[mikybee93]

Lol, wat was that helin? Well yes, for a party of two, if there is no tank fighter, clerics SHOULD tank. In the KQ, if you try to tank, screw you...

[qwter55]

... In the KQ, if you try to tank, screw you...

Like i said it depend, I have been in KQ where this happen. and the Cleric tank fine.

...example you enter King Slime at max level ... 16/17 and all other are around 5-12 and the warrior either lower than 10 (that mean dont have Taunt skill) or they are not End build (meaning low hp) and dont have HP Scroll... its better off for you to tank

Apparently there are many player who want melee dpser who went Warrior with mixture of Str and Spr ...and ZERO End. This type of warrior even with Taunt skill ... will not make good KQ Boss Tank... too small MaxHP. No chance to heal them at all when the Boss one shot kill them. But these type of warrior do great melee dps usually...its their play style ... thats how they like their warrior.. ^.^

[magdaragat]

well my cleric can tank in KQ, my build is full END that's why my cleric can do. my cleric is much better than the fighters (not all, but almost)....


Cleric Name: Nerissa
WizMage Name: Tahong (RIP)(scrolls and potions maker)

[melodyff]

while i was in lv16. i can tank in KQ of kings smile. just use the HP & Def scroll is ok. All the points i put in just STR~~ hehehe^^ when i grow up to 25lv. i can kill mara that stay in sandbeach. but i dont know i can kill her in KQ or not. coz of if in KQ. MT (fighter) will do it. So i did not hv chance to compare~

[lusia235]

I'm currently a lvl 32 cleric. During Gold Hill KQ yesterday, I more defence than all of the clerics. With T1 Shield scroll, I had about 345 defence.

[mikybee93]

i know that you guys CAN tank, but if there are other fighters around, just heal them, i now have a tank fighter and it pisses me off when clerics try to tank and i hafto use all my HP potions

[Swindler]

Clerics can tank, and by spamming the heal skill a lvl 14 can take down a whole herd of bored boars. If they ever come in herds bigger than two.

Clerics can also take care of parties, especially if they use their skill enabling points to lower the cool down on their heal. (Lowering SP usage on heal is also a good idea, although for solo clerics it may be better to raise damage and lower cool down on bash first.)

But I've never seen a cleric that could both tank AND take care of a party at the same time. In a group of mobs, a cleric can only pull the aggro on one mob at a time, and as soon as the cleric switches over to paying attention to the party, the cleric becomes worthless as a tank.

All things being equal (same level, equip upgrades, scrolls, player skill, etc.), a cleric will never be as good a tank as a fighter. On the other hand, a cleric supporting a fighter and some DPS can be part of an unstoppable party.

[qwter55]

mikybee93,

If you find Cleric that dont heal in your party ... use party chat and make a deal with him/her.

Like this

/p hey so_uber_cleric fine you tank, but if someone agro your mob... and I have to taunt and tank ... you heal me ...ok... go tank.

Dont taunt let him/her tank, but if someone agro you taunt ... and ask "nicely" to be heal ^.^ If some one ask you go dps without worry about tanking .. why not? its fun!

[mikybee93]

Nice idea, most of the time i just dont like them tanking, hopefully this works!!

[Semaj]

a good cleric can both agro and heal the tank. i do it all the time when im partied with my guild. it takes a little more skill, actually watching everyones life as well as your own, but its very do-able

[ddmatrix]

"...for this. But if the mage is nub and dont know how to use the assist button/skill... you run in swing... agro 3 mobs... all 3 boar on you...the nub mage attack different mobs than the one you attack (meaning did not use the assist button)... he agro ... you heal your self... heal is on cooldown...the nub mage did not use hp pot/stone ... dead mage, and he start to curse you for not healing him... you solo them all... /point to the nub mage and /lol ^.^
-The Mage not nub, have high enuf level and MaxSP, he attack ... all 3 mobs on him...he go crazy dps.. bang bang bang... you heal him 3 times? ... the whole thing done before you know it... it can happen like this also..."

LOL... it's funny the way you say it :)

[Swindler]

Semaj claims a good cleric can both agro and heal the tank. I'm going to change my previous post and agree with Semaj because I'm sure he has more experience than I have, and I know the skilled players can do some impressive things.

I'm a lower level player and haven't yet had the pleasure of working with a capable cleric. From soloing they forget about their ability to heal the rest of a party. All they do is rush in like Leeroy Jenkins and the rest of us have to use up our HP pots.

[Semaj]

the trick is that if both you (cleric) and the tank are taking massive dmg then you should back off and just heal and buff. its a matter of balance and being carefull. and knowing your party.
i know a lot of people dont like invincibility (skill at lv20 i think?) but it REALLY comes in handy when your party comes into a pinch with a mob...you can just cast it on your tank (only lasts 7sec without points into dur, but 1pt givees +3sec dur) and nothing can touch him, and that can let you catch up to healing him, and possibly yourself. its also good for solo when your have a mob of multiple monsters on you.

[PufftheMagicDragon]

hehehe ... ^.^

Can cleric tank?
-Depend in situation, this question just too general... again this depend on situation.

My cleric is lvl 14 now. So far, I've been pretty much adding to nothing but END, including my gear. My skill enhancement points went first into -SP cost for heals, and next will be +effectiveness for Protect.
- Full End... good for you... btw your can NOT Increase Effectiveness of Protect, as in make Protect do more Defense and Damage...so no, you cant increase damage+defence of Protect buff... you can empower increase buff duration and less SP thou.... but do actually want to do that?

(A little advice, if you are tempted to try Str ... get to level 22 and get 2 of +7 Str ring... yes, that is +14Str ( should be enuf to affect stuff for you to feel it , if it have effect)...put them on .. hit mobs... kill a few hundred ... remove them ... kill some more mobs... ask yourself ... Str good?... yes YOU decide but that is one way to test before you commit... the Reset Stat button does not work yet... and don't know for how long).

My question is, in a party full of heavy damage dealers, can Cleric hold aggro? If so, how? Is there a provoke/taunt-type move that I don't have yet?
- Depend... example you enter King Slime at max level ... 16/17 and all other are around 5-12 and the warrior either lower than 10 (that mean dont have Taunt skill) or they are not End build (meaning low hp) and dont have HP Scroll... its better off for you to tank ... provided you get to swing quite a few times on the King Slime before they start attack. So answer is Depend on situation. If you higher level and you attack first you will maintain agro...usually. NO, cleric will not have Taunt skill... that is why Warrior if spec right is always the better tank (Spec and know how to play, I seen warrior above level 10 that don't use Taunt, blur warrior ^.^).

I only ask this because, up until yesterday, I have only soloed. I needed help taking down the Sharp Boar/Bored Boar group of monsters, so I got a Mage to help me. But he wanted me to just stand back and heal while he 'tanked' the mobs.
-Depend... my my i think i am repeating that a lot ha? What is his/mage level... what is his MaxHP? Is he a nub, do he know what he is doing?
-You are level 14, quite sure you can tank solo them (the boar). So yeah you sure can tank for this. But if the mage is nub and dont know how to use the assist button/skill... you run in swing... agro 3 mobs... all 3 boar on you...the nub mage attack different mobs than the one you attack (meaning did not use the assist button)... he agro ... you heal your self... heal is on cooldown...the nub mage did not use hp pot/stone ... dead mage, and he start to curse you for not healing him... you solo them all... /point to the nub mage and /lol ^.^
-The Mage not nub, have high enuf level and MaxSP, he attack ... all 3 mobs on him...he go crazy dps.. bang bang bang... you heal him 3 times? ... the whole thing done before you know it... it can happen like this also.

He came very close to dying. I was spamming cures as fast as I could, and he still had to use several potions to stay alive.
The curse or poison will not kill him... it will bring his/her hp down to 1. If how ever a boogy nearby or any mob agro on him and wack him... its a one hit KO...but by then you will have say thx for party and be on your way right? No? Why? If you found out you party a nub, why would you stay after you finish your objective?
-He is great thinking player ... what you waiting for... click him .. right click his portrait...click Add... press F... there he is in your friend list.

Wouldn't I have been better off taking the hits? I have a much higher defense than he does.
Most likely but again Depend...nub can and will kill you... yes they do.

How do you tank in a situation like this? I'm very used to tanking in other games, but in this game I get lol'd at for wanting to do it with the highest DEF character in the game /shrug.
The circumstances where Cleric is a better tank in KQ or party situation is ...hmmm seldom?...Wanna tank? Sure ... make a Warrior...put End ... lots of them ^.^... you are allow up to 4 character per account and you can make lots of accounts ...yes? (I see you have a level 3 Warrior there taunt is level 10... go level).

Very good point, And hthat idea of +7 str rings is amazing, I gotta try that out... :D

[Seiferz10]

Depends, I had to use my Claric to Tank King Slime today since none of the fighters would. I actually like Claric for tanking since they can use potions, stones, and magic to heal.

[Semaj]

Depends, I had to use my Claric to Tank King Slime today since none of the fighters would. I actually like Claric for tanking since they can use potions, stones, and magic to heal.

thats true, and we CAN tank, its just that a lot of the nube clerics forget to take care of their party when they're tanking, we're not nearly the dmg dealers that fighters are, or even mages and archers, we have to keep our party alive when tanking a KQ. believe it or not we cant do it alone, well, unless there's a full party of clerics (i have ended up in that before lol)

[denns]

Yes, a cleric can tank but onli when there is no decent fighter. Since, no matter how tank you are you dont have taunt, and u dont have enough damge to hold agro the Boss. Boss just gonna run around and kick the dps archer/mage and u just running along behind the boss ****. Though it still nice if ur a full end cleric, since ur surviability in a boss fight is highest, and cleric is the last hero that should die in a party.

[Andromeda]

I've only used my cleric to tank once in a KQ. That was at the Gold Robber Boss my HP was around 1200-1300 with the level 47 cleric buff. The main tank was supposed to keep taunt but didnt and after the boss lost half of his HP he turned around and attacked me for the rest of the battle until he was dead -.-

[qwter55]

Semaj said:
unless there's a full party of clerics (i have ended up in that before
lol)Woot .. sound like fun ^.^


Andromeda Said:
he turned around and attacked me for the rest of the battle until he was dead -.-The Boss mob remind me when I am in PVP fight... I will also turn around and hit the healer too... I hate healer with a passion .... hahaha...I mean, I almost killed that nub... and now he is back to full hp... yes... when that happen ... I feel like strangling the healer that did the heal ^.^ so I can sympathizes with the Boss mob ...hahaha

[naturerules]

i'm a n00b so don't blame me, but does anybody know where lousy imps are? (KQ)

[qwter55]

If its in KQ should be some before you get to the first gate..

[tingrui22]

Lol, wat was that helin? Well yes, for a party of two, if there is no tank fighter, clerics SHOULD tank. In the KQ, if you try to tank, screw you...

Nope...i tanked lvl 32 cleric on GH boss and marlone...sadly i did that cause only got 1 fighter and only lvl 22...but he did tank boss..luckily got so amny clerics for spam heal lol XP

[yukijin]

clerics can tank when there is no END fighter, providing the party knows how threat lvl system works:

-cleric MUST have a few hits in to keep aggro, before anyone else lands a hit.

-if the monster can stun, dont use a cleric tank. period.

-if archer/mage pulls, make sure he knows it may take 2-3 hits to get monster off them.

-i do this alot, make sure the SECOND person that hits the monster is/could be- a back up tank. if the tank happens to die, monster hits the second tank while other clerics rez original tank. its a smart thing to do, otherwise you have a mess of damage dealers' bodies XP

yes, its a whole lot easier to have a fighter tank, but its not like clerics CANT tank.