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THr3eS01di3Rs
12-06-2008, 08:33 AM
Are in my opinion noobs =p How impressed are people when youve take a level 36 fighter with a +9 axe t3 scrolls and SC items and go on massive killing sprees in the 20 abyss? How amazing is 1000 KP if all your doing is keeping poor helpless players from leveling? I mean come on you think i'll give you a pat on that back for causing a level 20 mage or something to lose 20%+ just because you can?

Stop making posts about these feats, they arnt anything to brag about. Go into an abyss 10 levels higher then you or drop all your scrolls and SC items. Then I will be impressed -,-

amarwally
12-06-2008, 11:20 AM
I tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou

ForgottenMiss27
12-06-2008, 02:33 PM
i do not agree with you.

SC is a vital part of this game, as it pays for you to have it free for everyone who cant afford it.

if you wanted to play a game where you cant purchase your way into power, then this is not the one. choose a pay to play game instead.

THr3eS01di3Rs
12-06-2008, 03:18 PM
i do not agree with you.

SC is a vital part of this game, as it pays for you to have it free for everyone who cant afford it.

if you wanted to play a game where you cant purchase your way into power, then this is not the one. choose a pay to play game instead.

I have no problem with SC users, that isnt the point Im trying to get out. My point is the SC, +9, Scroll Using psychos that rampage PvPs just for fun and ruin the game for everyone.

Your one of those people, from the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7m-Dk5ZCI0)I saw of you destroying entire parties, how can you be proud of that? You cost all of those people experiance and extra time grinding just so you could have the satisfaction of killing them.

Killing for the sake of killing is a fools game.

OishiiKawaii
12-06-2008, 03:30 PM
lol juz watched the video...

apoline's players are a bit aggressive compare to teva's... they juz wanna show-off i guess... lolz

Blackremnant
12-06-2008, 03:46 PM
you are totally right. theres no point in the massive killing of players in abyss.

ForgottenMiss27
12-06-2008, 11:13 PM
theres nothing you can do about someone like me. outspark more than supports my kind, enough to patch it so that players LOSE exp. not only that, but now theres leaderboards?
theres only one thing you can really do, and thats bring friends when im around. however, thats how my vids are made =)

ahtai
12-07-2008, 05:56 AM
Nice video of shoom kill. I guess outspark should take a look at your own video.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/bully.jpg

sefussion
12-07-2008, 06:55 AM
I'm sick of this, I'm going on abys 60 with friends on 70+ and I'm 45, but some ppl are attacking us, and with good cleric there's no chance to survive, form 80% i had 23 than ;/

THr3eS01di3Rs
12-07-2008, 07:49 AM
theres nothing you can do about someone like me. outspark more than supports my kind, enough to patch it so that players LOSE exp. not only that, but now theres leaderboards?
theres only one thing you can really do, and thats bring friends when im around. however, thats how my vids are made =)

I fight with words not with swords, I dont need to fight you to make you leave the abyss Nana. There is a thin line between HAVING FUN and HARRASSMENT and you are harrassing other players. Which can get you in trouble. You might say Outspark is rooting for you but your wrong, you are currently breaking ToS by doing that kind of stuff.

Its ok if you kill someone for a spot there is nothing wrong with that because its the abyss if you want a spot you fight for it, but what you cant do is kill players over and over. That is harrassing, and by looking at your vids the players you are killing have obviously delt with you before, meaning you have killed them all multiple times and are harrasing them.

I dont know how much trouble you would get in if any if I reported you but your vids are evidence enough that you are causing players distress.

xIOhenryOIx
12-07-2008, 08:17 AM
There arent any issues with shroom kill its only if u mass spam kill him while hes afk

Plushii
12-07-2008, 10:16 AM
Are in my opinion noobs =p How impressed are people when youve take a level 36 fighter with a +9 axe t3 scrolls and SC items and go on massive killing sprees in the 20 abyss? How amazing is 1000 KP if all your doing is keeping poor helpless players from leveling? I mean come on you think i'll give you a pat on that back for causing a level 20 mage or something to lose 20%+ just because you can?

Stop making posts about these feats, they arnt anything to brag about. Go into an abyss 10 levels higher then you or drop all your scrolls and SC items. Then I will be impressed -,-

*clicks imaginary rep button* =3

sir_vinagre
12-07-2008, 10:19 AM
KP are useless right now but... i hate when ppl strongher than me go low lvl abyss and smash every1 but i love when sometimes, i mean... im in my lvl abyss, killing and happy my lvl mobs, happy of my life and sometimes ppl run near me killing eachother, and i like when i got the power to kill all of them and say... THIS IS MY ROOM xD

THr3eS01di3Rs
12-07-2008, 11:25 AM
*clicks imaginary rep button* =3

Thank you Plushii xD

ahtai
12-07-2008, 11:35 AM
There arent any issues with shroom kill its only if u mass spam kill him while hes afk

Really? If people are shooming that means the person do not want to fight and ask you to leave him or her alone. By doing that, that is harrasement and cause destress to other people. If you watch through the whole video, it is a violation of TOS. That is just a snap shot I take only.

She can only do that is because she is a 7x in 6x abyss notice it is the worng abyss? That means she got owned in 7x abyss else it should be the correct abyss that she do that and it will really mean something. Now only statement is harrasement to people 10+ lower level than you. Oh did you notice when she face a 7x player too she ran? That is how good she really is.

whatever1234567
12-07-2008, 12:14 PM
I tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou

Says the weakling 6X killing in 5X abyss and 4X abyss with a heavyly armoured archer that carries a mace and makes light shine on him

jaxman13
12-07-2008, 02:20 PM
allrite i see were ur coming from but the abyss is a dual purpose area incase u hadnt noticed~the abyss offers good exp but is a risky place with all the pvpers. Really there is no reason to be angry at other players that kill you, be cause they can- and about the bragging, well thats what MMOs are about. why grind several hundred hours on a game? to prove ur better than otheres and kill points are no exception. I would say just try to keep grinding and as soon as ur killed once- just leve and come back an hour or 2 later/

AhLook
12-07-2008, 02:29 PM
yeh, something is messed up about this. Respect only the level 87 and above who brag about kill points. why ? cuz level 87 and above can only enter 1 abyss.

regards

sirviney
12-07-2008, 02:32 PM
Are in my opinion noobs =p How impressed are people when youve take a level 36 fighter with a +9 axe t3 scrolls and SC items and go on massive killing sprees in the 20 abyss? How amazing is 1000 KP if all your doing is keeping poor helpless players from leveling? I mean come on you think i'll give you a pat on that back for causing a level 20 mage or something to lose 20%+ just because you can?

Stop making posts about these feats, they arnt anything to brag about. Go into an abyss 10 levels higher then you or drop all your scrolls and SC items. Then I will be impressed -,-

Actually they are something to brag about... In fact you EARN bragging rights for doing so.

Just because you're against it doesn't dismiss the above fact.

Lety23
12-07-2008, 03:00 PM
Are in my opinion noobs =p How impressed are people when youve take a level 36 fighter with a +9 axe t3 scrolls and SC items and go on massive killing sprees in the 20 abyss? How amazing is 1000 KP if all your doing is keeping poor helpless players from leveling? I mean come on you think i'll give you a pat on that back for causing a level 20 mage or something to lose 20%+ just because you can?

Stop making posts about these feats, they arnt anything to brag about. Go into an abyss 10 levels higher then you or drop all your scrolls and SC items. Then I will be impressed -,-


Using the word "noob" as you are using it, to me, the people who complain are "noobs".
It's not amazing to have so many kill points. It's incovenient to have to leave abyss because you get killed multiple times, yes.
But, if I was a person who had a lot of kill points, I would be nowhere near concerned of trying to impress anyone.
Really, i don't think anyone whould care if you are impressed by their kill points or not.

If people don't want to lose exp., they can at least try and gain it back instead of seeking revenge of the person who killed them.

wannabeguyo
12-07-2008, 04:14 PM
I know that the abyss areas are meant for pvp. You risk the loss of xp from pkers, but in return you gain a great amount of xp from monsters and an OK amount of drops. People like el_mago should not be congratulated for their seemingly numerous defeats on low lvled players. Imagine this a pro kick boxer versus 1000 grannys that are over 90 years old ( best exaple i could think of, im really tired.) Does that sound fair to you.

Ex. Yesterday i was on my way to lvl50 abyss and I hear a few lvl3x and 4x complaining in the FP about a lvl 5x in the abyss spawn killing everyone. I went in there killed him (i was lvl54 at the time. Yes im an archer) the he tells gets mad calling me names and such. I left to my abyss and aoe a room for a bit, then on my way out he attacks me. I killed him again and left.

What im trying to say is these people are mindless bullys that like to prey upon other people. I dont know if the satisfaction from killing someone way below them is making up for something that they don't have in real life or taking out their anger on other people. What ever the reason may be, I imagine these people who gain their kill points in ways such as spawn killing and preying on people of lower lvl, as childish mindless idiots. They have no better way to spend their time. When they see someone that can beat beat them, they WILL run.

i know i know spelling errors, punctuation blah blah....im tired lol.

whatever1234567
12-07-2008, 04:17 PM
Yea the guy top killer on Bijou (luis137) is so freaking weak i have no idea how he has killed so many people when my fighter which is around the same lvl as him destroys him 1vs1

TraderInc
12-08-2008, 12:57 AM
C'mon ppl .... OS wants this! The only reason they condone this kind of behavior is SC, nothing else. If u get spawn killed in abyss its ur fault because u didnt buy charms and SC pots, if u lose exp from pk, (again) ur fault for not buying BoT..... This game became nothing more than bully's playground and after more that 30 months of playing im sad to say my friends are the only reason im still here. :(

Btw... there are new items in shop.... go and check it out!!!! ><

dark94
12-08-2008, 07:01 AM
yeh, something is messed up about this. Respect only the level 87 and above who brag about kill points. why ? cuz level 87 and above can only enter 1 abyss.

regards

they can enter FBZ and kill low lvl too >.<

TheCompanions
12-08-2008, 08:39 AM
I know that the abyss areas are meant for pvp. You risk the loss of xp from pkers, but in return you gain a great amount of xp from monsters and an OK amount of drops

..cough cough .. but u dont mean RoA right? XD

star.scream
12-08-2008, 08:47 AM
i do not agree with you.

SC is a vital part of this game, as it pays for you to have it free for everyone who cant afford it.

if you wanted to play a game where you cant purchase your way into power, then this is not the one. choose a pay to play game instead.

Having clothes and other options are fine, having stuff that makes you better than other players, I do not agree with.

No reason someone should be running around charming str, and defense, with hp pots that instantly fill back up ur health all the way, or having hp/sp extenders.

It's cheap, I buy spark cash, I use my sparkcash, I don't buy all that other petty stuff.

I've used charm of defense and str once, because of remi's. Other than that, you won't see me with it.

lifekindle32
12-08-2008, 09:22 AM
Really? If people are shooming that means the person do not want to fight and ask you to leave him or her alone. By doing that, that is harrasement and cause destress to other people. If you watch through the whole video, it is a violation of TOS. That is just a snap shot I take only.

She can only do that is because she is a 7x in 6x abyss notice it is the worng abyss? That means she got owned in 7x abyss else it should be the correct abyss that she do that and it will really mean something. Now only statement is harrasement to people 10+ lower level than you. Oh did you notice when she face a 7x player too she ran? That is how good she really is.



she could of been using a goc axe what kept her goin is the charms and extenders

ForgottenMiss27
12-08-2008, 11:52 AM
Nice video of shoom kill. I guess outspark should take a look at your own video.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/bully.jpg

shroom killing has been and still is totally within the ToS. why shroom in the abyss? its like posting "kill me!" on your head.

I fight with words not with swords, I dont need to fight you to make you leave the abyss Nana. There is a thin line between HAVING FUN and HARRASSMENT and you are harrassing other players. Which can get you in trouble. You might say Outspark is rooting for you but your wrong, you are currently breaking ToS by doing that kind of stuff.

Its ok if you kill someone for a spot there is nothing wrong with that because its the abyss if you want a spot you fight for it, but what you cant do is kill players over and over. That is harrassing, and by looking at your vids the players you are killing have obviously delt with you before, meaning you have killed them all multiple times and are harrasing them.

I dont know how much trouble you would get in if any if I reported you but your vids are evidence enough that you are causing players distress.

since when has open pvp been a conditional pvp? who are you to dictate the reasons that i must kill another player in an open pvp area? i can kill for any and every reason, or no reason whatsoever. that's my right the moment i step into abyss. dont like it? leave, i wont stop you.

im not breaking any rules whatsoever. in fact, my standards match very closely with outspark's standards. complain with outspark so that they can amend the TOS, if you really want to do something about it.

the problem why outspark made abyss a total open pvp instead of a conditional one is:
-they have no means of restricting it (outspark does not consist of programmers)
- if outspark "verbally" restricts it, the GM's must handle each and every case of abyss reporting on a individual basis, overloading their work schedule EVEN MORE.
- people in abyss can be set up and framed to look like they were abusing others EASILY.
- outspark clings on to the "high rewards comes with high risk" slogan for abyss.

Really? If people are shooming that means the person do not want to fight and ask you to leave him or her alone. By doing that, that is harrasement and cause destress to other people. If you watch through the whole video, it is a violation of TOS. That is just a snap shot I take only.

She can only do that is because she is a 7x in 6x abyss notice it is the worng abyss? That means she got owned in 7x abyss else it should be the correct abyss that she do that and it will really mean something. Now only statement is harrasement to people 10+ lower level than you. Oh did you notice when she face a 7x player too she ran? That is how good she really is.

both vids were made when the 10-76 abyss was the 60-69 abyss. i was 67. learn your facts.

yes, i know how to pvp. educated fighters can look at my vid and compare it with the noobs who try to copy me, and see the vast months of technical skill i have on them.
other 8x fighters have tried to take me with only sc and +9 equips, but no skill. how foolish they were.

Lety23
12-08-2008, 04:10 PM
C'mon ppl .... OS wants this! The only reason they condone this kind of behavior is SC, nothing else. If u get spawn killed in abyss its ur fault because u didnt buy charms and SC pots, if u lose exp from pk, (again) ur fault for not buying BoT..... This game became nothing more than bully's playground and after more that 30 months of playing im sad to say my friends are the only reason im still here. :(

Btw... there are new items in shop.... go and check it out!!!! ><

How many times does it have to be said for people to understand?? It's a risk. Get it? SC user or not, it's still a risk.
See the keyword here?

Seems to me that they're just following the original version.
And I understand why non SC users would complain.
I don't believe OS would only be in it for the money. If OS is, so be it.

darthnish
12-08-2008, 04:18 PM
kinda off topic here, but Nana after looking at your vid i'm guessing you;re the rare but deadly INT build?

NLWarrior
12-08-2008, 05:37 PM
I don't like PvP. Well, I would PvP but not because I want to show off my str and how flashy my character is. I only PvP with my guildy or my hubby when we are bored.

saint_attila
12-08-2008, 06:10 PM
*rubs temples*

PvP and kill points have ruined this game for me. The forums were bad enough with all the rants from each different class, random off topic stuff, etc. But now PvP is just thrown out of whack. No longer is PvP honorable, where equally matched people could fight and see who is the strongest. Well, I should stop there. PvP has never been honorable. PvP is just a 'mine is bigger than yours' contest.

Anyway. Rampages through lower level abyss are 'fun' right? Oh yes, tons of fun, if you are the juggernaut running through killing everyone. Yes, the mindless brute who charges through killing everyone is hailed as a hero by all the other people that do the same. And the same brute is branded as a heathen by everyone else. It is two sides of the coin.

This might be getting off-topic, but people need to stop doing this. It's like drinking. What do they always say? Drink in moderation. Of course, not everyone drinks in moderation. There will always be some poor fool who always drinks too much, or in this case kills too much. So they become 'drunk' on their killing sprees, and just keep doing it and doing it and doing it. Either people need to learn moderation in PvP or OOS needs to implement some sort of level restriction on kill points. Like, you can only get kill points versus someone 5 levels above or below you.

And no, don't say "Well, if you want to fight in the abyss, get SC items!" That is not a solution, that is feeding the problem. It is the heavy SC users that go in the abyss, massacre everyone, get people angry at them, and then the angry people go buy SC, kill people, the cycle repeats itself.

I for one, have had to deal with a lot of people in PvP. Cause I'm a Cleric. I can't really kill my assailant, but I sure can make him waste precious time, supplies and money.

Now while there may be no 'rules' of PvP, there are guidelines. Shroom-killing is always bad. That is like me going to a helpless little ant, who can do nothing to stop me, and grinding it to dust under my foot. Where is the challenge in that? And spawn killing. That is comparable to knocking someone out, letting them wake back up and before they can get their bearings, smacking them again and knocking them unconscious once more.

Also, it seems that a lot of PvPers seem to lack common courtesy. I have the feeling several people may agree with me on this. Not once have I ever been asked to fight someone in a fair, one on one duel. Not once. And please, don't say "Well, it's PvP! I can do what I want in PvP!" Cause, while you may be able to rampantly kill people, you spawn a lot of hate and enemies by doing so.

Sorry for my long winded rant. I probably got off track at several points. Forgive me if I did.

Remember! Fight in moderation! Don't get drunk on bloodlust!

Lety23
12-08-2008, 06:54 PM
*rubs temples*

PvP and kill points have ruined this game for me. The forums were bad enough with all the rants from each different class, random off topic stuff, etc. But now PvP is just thrown out of whack. No longer is PvP honorable, where equally matched people could fight and see who is the strongest. Well, I should stop there. PvP has never been honorable. PvP is just a 'mine is bigger than yours' contest.

Anyway. Rampages through lower level abyss are 'fun' right? Oh yes, tons of fun, if you are the juggernaut running through killing everyone. Yes, the mindless brute who charges through killing everyone is hailed as a hero by all the other people that do the same. And the same brute is branded as a heathen by everyone else. It is two sides of the coin.

This might be getting off-topic, but people need to stop doing this. It's like drinking. What do they always say? Drink in moderation. Of course, not everyone drinks in moderation. There will always be some poor fool who always drinks too much, or in this case kills too much. So they become 'drunk' on their killing sprees, and just keep doing it and doing it and doing it. Either people need to learn moderation in PvP or OOS needs to implement some sort of level restriction on kill points. Like, you can only get kill points versus someone 5 levels above or below you.

And no, don't say "Well, if you want to fight in the abyss, get SC items!" That is not a solution, that is feeding the problem. It is the heavy SC users that go in the abyss, massacre everyone, get people angry at them, and then the angry people go buy SC, kill people, the cycle repeats itself.

I for one, have had to deal with a lot of people in PvP. Cause I'm a Cleric. I can't really kill my assailant, but I sure can make him waste precious time, supplies and money.

Now while there may be no 'rules' of PvP, there are guidelines. Shroom-killing is always bad. That is like me going to a helpless little ant, who can do nothing to stop me, and grinding it to dust under my foot. Where is the challenge in that? And spawn killing. That is comparable to knocking someone out, letting them wake back up and before they can get their bearings, smacking them again and knocking them unconscious once more.

Also, it seems that a lot of PvPers seem to lack common courtesy. I have the feeling several people may agree with me on this. Not once have I ever been asked to fight someone in a fair, one on one duel. Not once. And please, don't say "Well, it's PvP! I can do what I want in PvP!" Cause, while you may be able to rampantly kill people, you spawn a lot of hate and enemies by doing so.

Sorry for my long winded rant. I probably got off track at several points. Forgive me if I did.

Remember! Fight in moderation! Don't get drunk on bloodlust!

First point: There are people who will fight fair, who do fight fair. People who challenge other people their own level to see who is better, stronger. Just because no one sees them, doesn't mean they're not there.

Second point: So, say I consider one of those people up on the KP leaderboards a hero. Does that make me a mindless KPer too? No, it doesn't. It doesn't make them mindless brutes going on a killing spree either.

~~
I have never killed someone without them giving me reason to. Of course, I let them know first; give 'em a little pinch, y'know? If they don't understand that the fifth time I warn them, well, their fault.

animeswimmerfan
12-08-2008, 07:23 PM
XD here are my solutions maybe someone can make sure they are true

http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131935

undeadgun
12-09-2008, 01:50 AM
NANA's e-peen: ----------------------------------------------------
My e-peen: -
SAD! Q _ Q

ahtai
12-09-2008, 01:54 AM
both vids were made when the 10-76 abyss was the 60-69 abyss. i was 67. learn your facts.


LOL that axe you are holding is 70 axe, that is the only only one with triangle shape. The 60 axe is round. I know my facts.

drycl3an0nly
12-09-2008, 01:58 AM
I tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou



okay, well... i hope you're ONLY talking about pvp because tanker came up and killed my whole party in abyss. he was t3'd up and had a lvl6x cleric with him. (maybe you? -.-)

nice.

undeadgun
12-09-2008, 02:21 AM
LOL that axe you are holding is 70 axe, that is the only only one with triangle shape. The 60 axe is round. I know my facts.

GoC axe it is:)

ForgottenMiss27
12-09-2008, 03:15 AM
LOL that axe you are holding is 70 axe, that is the only only one with triangle shape. The 60 axe is round. I know my facts.

GoC axe it is:)

failed hard

Sharlyne
12-09-2008, 09:41 AM
I tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou

lool we owned you many times :rolleyes: and we even had a big mob in 50 abyss and you guys still fail at it :3 with my cleric =)! and my mage friend =) so stfu and go back to 60 abyss =)!

oh and btw you guys are 60lvl + going around 50abyss killing them in pulling
:D! so i did the same with you guys so don't be proud of you points =D oh and then crying calling us fail when you guys mop the floor aww so sad buhu :rolleyes:

if you want a challenge go to 60 abyss then =)

Nephron
12-09-2008, 10:39 AM
*sigh* I really wish they hadn't changed the abyss. I don't care what the Korean version has; this new system has caused nothing but trouble here.

Imaginary +reps for Attila and Lety. You both make good points, though I'm going to have to agree with Attila on this one. There are "honorable" PvPers, but I've seen many, many more jerks who are just feeding their bloodlust and being, well, jerks. I'll concede that such people have earned the bragging rights to their huge kill counts, but if they got those kills by butchering players who had no hope of fighting back, it's not much to brag about, is it?

foxy-xx
12-10-2008, 07:33 AM
If you people who are bragging about kills in lower lvl abyss are so skilled why dont you pick on ppl in ur own abyss? or perhaps you could go to FBZ where yes you can bully lower lvl's but there is a high risk that someone higher lvl than you will do same to you.

I tell you why... there is NO skill involved, just bully tactics, and if that makes you happy... well what can I say?

You bully's are absolutely right about something though.. Outspark does indeed support you on this one, why else would they need to change lvl restrictions? surely it cant be about pushing sales of BoT, we lose exp whatever lvl kills us..

There is only one way this can be settled. Put back lvl restrictions, at least then ppl who argue that abyss is pvp and comes with a risk, will actually have a point.

Lety23
12-10-2008, 03:13 PM
If you people who are bragging about kills in lower lvl abyss are so skilled why dont you pick on ppl in ur own abyss? or perhaps you could go to FBZ where yes you can bully lower lvl's but there is a high risk that someone higher lvl than you will do same to you.

I tell you why... there is NO skill involved, just bully tactics, and if that makes you happy... well what can I say?

You bully's are absolutely right about something though.. Outspark does indeed support you on this one, why else would they need to change lvl restrictions? surely it cant be about pushing sales of BoT, we lose exp whatever lvl kills us..

There is only one way this can be settled. Put back lvl restrictions, at least then ppl who argue that abyss is pvp and comes with a risk, will actually have a point.


Ok, not everyone who goes in abyss, higher level, goes in there to bully.
I use to think that, sure. Because that's all that happened; I died.

But, you have to continually go into abyss to see what people do.
And the majority are bullies. But not all.

But you know what? Let them. Go level. They're the ones loosing the game (technically)
And they will be the ones farther away from the level cap.

Oh, and there is skill involved in certain situations.

Tamlinari
12-10-2008, 03:29 PM
Overwhelmingly the higher levels that go into the lower level Abyss are there to harass other players and cause trouble.
I believe that THr3eS01di3Rs is absolutely correct.

The people that do things like that are losers in life and that is their way of making a so called name for themselves and it has just gotten so much worse since the level caps have been truncated.

Being a complete degenerate idiot is not funny and it is not anything to be proud of in my opinion.

arthas_edy
12-10-2008, 04:14 PM
i am agreeing with u THr3eS01di3Rs there is hard to lvl in abyss. i mean that i'm making 20% in the abyss and lose 40% coz some1 want to make KP without thinking that i'm trying to lvl. another exemple is rlly recent: i am trying to lvl up and 2 of them killed me in abyss. i was 95% and they killed me till i was 50%. at my lvl i make what i lose then in 2 days and they maked me lose it in 5 mins. i rlly want to be pvp just in free batle zone. this is the best of all. thx XD

ahtai
12-10-2008, 09:20 PM
GoC axe it is:)

She is not the only one holding 70 weapon. Is it really co-incindence ther is 2 GOC axe in 60 abyss and a definitely 70 hammer and sheld. Not. That is after the new abyss rule and they are holding 70 weapon.

Watch the whole video and see all the weapon on all class. Also notice she hide her level in the video too. :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/clericweapon.jpg

See the sheld and the dent in the sheld that is a 70 sheld and 70 hammer on the cleric she ambushed.

flok3st3r
12-11-2008, 03:19 AM
Are in my opinion noobs =p How impressed are people when youve take a level 36 fighter with a +9 axe t3 scrolls and SC items and go on massive killing sprees in the 20 abyss? How amazing is 1000 KP if all your doing is keeping poor helpless players from leveling? I mean come on you think i'll give you a pat on that back for causing a level 20 mage or something to lose 20%+ just because you can?

Stop making posts about these feats, they arnt anything to brag about. Go into an abyss 10 levels higher then you or drop all your scrolls and SC items. Then I will be impressed -,-
If only there were more people who think like that...
Anyway, WELL SAID!!!:D
By the way, thank your bro for me, those drawings made me laugh quite a bit :D
As for Nana, well... i got my rear end kicked by that char =) lost 9% (not much, just 900k):) but heck, i'm looking at it this way, PvP for no reason = go seek medical help, what i saw in those "ownage vids" umm... are you sure you don't belong in a mental institute, ForgottenMiss? o.0'

flok3st3r
12-11-2008, 03:20 AM
She is not the only one holding 70 weapon. Is it really co-incindence ther is 2 GOC axe in 60 abyss and a definitely 70 hammer and sheld. Not. That is after the new abyss rule and they are holding 70 weapon.

Watch the whole video and see all the weapon on all class. Also notice she hide her level in the video too. :)

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/clericweapon.jpg

See the sheld and the dent in the sheld that is a 70 sheld and 70 hammer on the cleric she ambushed.
wish i was that smart ;-;

worrior21
12-11-2008, 03:35 AM
T.T so sad...i thought Nana was good cause she is nice but i didnt know what horible things she does in abyss...such a bish. Ppl who ruin other ppl's fun game dun deserve to play.
Great work THr3eS01di3Rs for making this thread. Every time i went to fbz(or abyss) i hunted those fkn ppl that killed low lvl players with no reson.
IF U FKN IDIOTS WANNA SHOW YOUR GUTS THEN DO IT ONLY WITH PLAYERS YOUR LVL!!!
I just hope there are/will be players that will hunt all these noobs if they see them or if someone asks them 4 help.
I ll definetly start doing this again when i get my fighter back:(

SaiyanAngelTavy lvl85 worrior

mynameisbobnotk
12-11-2008, 03:40 PM
with the new ranking system there will be more prople in the abyss spawnkilling...someone save us

Shaden
12-11-2008, 04:45 PM
Time to prove some people wrong;

Alright, listen up you people who care to not look up your facts before making accusations, let's play with DATES.

Nana: Abyss ownage 1 the youTube video was released on October 03, 2008.
source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7m-Dk5ZCI0)


Nana: Abyss ownage 2 the youTube sequel was released on October 13, 2008.source (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW-qW9EMqpo&feature=channel_page)


Now, let's take a look at OutSpark's server maintenance and patch notes in the News section. October 28th, 2008 update (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122859&highlight=Abyss)


http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/clericweapon.jpg

Level 70 Shield, hah, almost funny. That's gotta be the most obvious picture of a 60+9 ever. This is a good example. (http://s70.photobucket.com/albums/i109/ShadenReborn/?action=view&current=screenshot319.jpg)

Notice the giant spike? Yeah, 70 shield isn't a freakin' spike, it's a light curve that stops shortly with two smaller spikes. It looks nothing like that in the video.

Now, find me all these so-called level 70 items in the video and let's compare to actual in-game items, mkay?

whatever1234567
12-11-2008, 05:02 PM
with the new ranking system there will be more prople in the abyss spawnkilling...someone save us

*Loggs onto Thatdude*
*finds lvl 36 in 20 abyee 46 in 30 abyss and 56 in 40 abyss*
*Rips them apart piece by piece*

ahtai
12-11-2008, 05:58 PM
Time to prove some people wrong;

Notice the giant spike? Yeah, 70 shield isn't a freakin' spike, it's a light curve that stops shortly with two smaller spikes. It looks nothing like that in the video.


You are right, it take some time to find back my 60 sheld to do compare. it is 60 sheld, I was looking at the hammer not sheld because I recall 60 hammer is square not round. There is 50 cleric sheld in there as well.

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e125/ahtaihk/clericweapon2.jpg

Than I also do a little experiment on the up and down arrow showing in the character. If the character is 3 level apart the arrow will show. Many of her victum have the circle blank so that means the killing is less than 2 level actually for most of them.

Conclusion, rare but yes a fair fight. Though I will like more to see a FBZ footage rather than attack from back to give her any respect.

Ulquiorra258
12-11-2008, 07:34 PM
hey I totally agree with the braggin and the sc crud i really hate ppl who just wanna show off how high lvl they are and say "im in need of some kill points" acting tough for no reason and sayin that "killed u for fun" or "ur just a low lvl" well to those ppl every1 was low lvl once and 2nd amar and ch0s3n u 2 are not in the top 20 =_= on bijouI tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou

A_geezy
12-12-2008, 12:21 PM
hehe my two cents worth: http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn46/ag-fiesta/two-cents-worth2.jpg

haha honestly, Saturday is abyss hunting day... I've spent my spare real life time all week leveling up and practicing utter benevolence with my fellow (Isyans? idk) Fiesta players, but Saturday is when I seek another type of thrill. Confessions of a PKer (Part I):

I don't do it to be mean, in fact in the level 2x abyss that I haunt every other week I replace scrolls when I pwn you. I don't do it because I feel compelled to keep you from leveling, generally (and especially in the 5x abyss) if you ask nice i can be partied and help you aoe your way back to whatever exp you had when i pwnd you.

No, I kill because it is a complete rush to be hiding behind a wall at the end of a hallway in the abyss, wait there a couple seconds knowing they can't see you. And them KAPLOW... a couple awesome crits and it's over, two, three, four more Kill Points- It is absolutely something to brag about; It seems as thought many people at the higher levels have forgotten how many hours we all spent leveling. To me, and it appears I am not alone in thinking this, those hours were very nearly completely waisted if I couldn't go utilize the skills that were trained over such a long time (not the in-game skills, but the actual skill it takes to PvP: timing, finger dexterity, et al.).

Well that's my two cents worth, hope that helps, but honestly nothing I say would illuminate the subject more than Serric:


Sadly, the Abyss is a DMZ when it comes to PVP: anything goes. Well, anything which doesn't violate the TOS, that is.

The abyss is an optional location to play in and is strictly PVP, meaning you enter at your own risk, come what may. There will always be those who strive for nothing more than to kill other players for fun. Welcome to war.

You must choose, do you want to enter a PVP area and risk getting killed –A LOT – or do you grind in the usual maps, avoiding most PVP (guild wars not withstanding)?

You must choose… but choose wisely…

Tamlinari
12-12-2008, 12:45 PM
There is nothing wrong with the Abyss being a PvP area.
It has always been that way.

The thing that I have a real problem with is letting people who are way above the the zone level in there to cause trouble.

It was fine the way it was before.
No one lost EXP from being killed by another player and everyone in the Abyss was within the same level range.

I for one would like to see it put back the way it was before.

ahtai
12-12-2008, 06:05 PM
I think it is even more fun, hitting a higher level than run to avoid being killed. That is a more thilrling hide and seek.

kendogg
12-17-2008, 12:16 AM
I tottaly agree from where u are coming from.
Ch0s3n_t4nker and I duo pvp.
we are in the top 20 on our server and all we kill ppl with is a buff and a crit suit ^^.
we dont have clerics,we dont have scrolls, and we end up gettin piled on by like 10 ppl everytime.

If you are going to brag about your kill points kill ppl that are actually a challenge. Don't just become academy master and go into an abyss that u dont belong in! To me there should be more strict rules on this. How about u only get a kill point if u are in a 5-10 lvl difference? =]




Amarwally1 lvl 6x mage of Bijou
you cant academy warp to abyss

Stake
12-18-2008, 09:50 AM
lmao this is just to funny. I love going on raids. Get this, here is the most famous line that i hear once i kill someone in abyss. ***** man that only makes me want to laugh and kill someone else to see their reaction, BUT i am fair about killing people. Usually once i kill someone they come after me, which happens everytime. It just blows my mind how much exp ppl like to lose ;), then they complain about it lol.

x_juanca
12-18-2008, 10:38 AM
I don't mind pvping in abyss,it just bother me when a 4x fighter comes into 2x abyss to kill every1 trying to lvl, or when they interrupts the fight of 2 2x chars, and they just feel the strongest.
I totally egrre with the OP, go to a lvl 10 lvls above u and try to kill some ppl, if u do i'll consider u SOMEONE VALUABLE
But ppl going to a higher lvl abyss just to train go under the risk of being killed, and therfore losing exp. Try to get a higher lvl pty and kill the one trying to kill u, or just try to run and hide then.

big_blade
12-22-2008, 11:38 AM
i agree 100% with Tamlinari, they need to stop the hi lvls from coming anywhere near lower abysses... keep 20 abyss for ONLY 20-29, 30 for ONLY 30-39, etc.

big_blade
12-22-2008, 11:40 AM
and thank u to all those who kill people FAIRLY, because its not that big a deal if u kill someone once... but after the fifth time it really gets old. =.=

EriAeris
12-22-2008, 11:52 AM
Maybe there should be like a 3 second warning alert that someone is going to fight you lol

nurfy
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
lol so true, even though i thought about doing it
but i mean i wouldnt brag

ra77man
01-12-2009, 05:52 AM
People like Nana and El-Mago should be spawn killed. If they think it's fun to kill players in Abyss then I think its fun for my 7x main to kill them in Abyss. Nuff said!

A_geezy
01-12-2009, 08:19 PM
i agree 100% with Tamlinari, they need to stop the hi lvls from coming anywhere near lower abysses... keep 20 abyss for ONLY 20-29, 30 for ONLY 30-39, etc.

hmmm so what about the free battle zone? it seems rather hypocritical to say that one free for all PvP map should have stringent level requirements, but the other one should allow people some eighty levels higher than you to come in and literally trap you there, beating you down at their will.

but idk it is what it is... purhaps the title of this thread should be: "people who brag in general." To me they are lame... what's the point in bragging about a video game? All you are saying is, "hey I have accumulated more desireable lines of code than you..." and only uber geeks and losers do that.

that's my opinion you can quote me on that.

darthnish
01-12-2009, 10:05 PM
i has simple soltuion: Dont go to the abyss, use the dungeons :D, better exp and better drop rate too.

whitelion318
01-13-2009, 12:50 AM
there is nothing 2 argue if you dont like people doing that well get to 36 and beat em up then lol. or go and get your guildys to help you. or use some sc items yourself.

da_greatist19
11-25-2009, 04:51 PM
Those of you that r hating on Nana r so wrong! shes the reason I became a PKer lol. After seeing her ownage I was like wow o.O it looks so fun! I mean at times i show mercy towards the lower lvls, but its so fun chasing them down, or telling them they have like 3 seconds to run lol...it's ironic tho..cause Chosen_tanker gave me the start up money to become a PKer in the first place..so thanks to both of u Nana and Chosen lol <3

Dthugtherealist
11-25-2009, 05:00 PM
I think Nana's awesome I love his ownage vids. But theres one thing that makes Nana Great He actually excells in all sorts of PvP Wars Abyss raids FBZ Gangings. He also hit 100 lol and has the record Eva for a fighter. I know Chosen and he put me almost to tears one day when he said he was tired of the bullshiz he was getting so he quit his fighter.
He also told me Im the only fighter he had real trouble with and the only fighter that beat him many many many times.Many people didn't like him cuz he was a Pk'er but whatever he was an alright person.

grummin
11-25-2009, 05:06 PM
:facepalm:

Holy Necromancy, Batman!

Shadowic2
11-25-2009, 05:17 PM
Putting this zombie thread out of it's misery.

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