View Full Version : What is Each Class's Least Fav. Opponent?
thedark17
12-06-2008, 03:52 PM
Just wondering peoples opinion's on what classes have a tough time facing a certain task
So if you could put your opinion in something similar to this
Fighter-Hard to Fight *insert class*
Reason
Archer- Hard to Fight *insert class*
Reason
Mage- Hard to Fight *insert class*
Reason
Cleric- Hard to Fight *insert class*
Reason
just wondering what everyones opinions are :cool:
dragondud
12-06-2008, 04:05 PM
Fighters-hard to fight mages or archers coz thy run and attack >.<
Blackremnant
12-06-2008, 04:06 PM
archer-hates to fight- fighters, clerics
reason: fighters can stun, deal heavy damage, and have high HP and physical def. clerics have high HP, hit semi-well, have very good defense, and can the damage over time casts.
Mage -hates to fight- (probably) every class
reason: seeing as all other classes deal physical damage, which is what mages hardly have, they will die easily. unless they have +9 equips/weapons, its very difficult for them to stay alive for long.
Fighters -hates to fight- mages, higher level archers, higher level clerics
reason: mages deal magical damage, which fighters have close to none. archers have a naturally higher attack damage than fighters, and if they are higher with AOE and Kiting moves, the fighter may not even be able to touch them. Clerics who are at least 3+ levels higher than a fighter can be very annoying and hard to fight, because the fighter may get them down to 20% health, and they heal, or say the cleric is at 30% health, and the fighter misses the stun. the cleric would be back to 100% health before the stun CD was even finished.
clerics -hates to fight- fighters lvl 43+
reason: DEVA attack. nuff' said XD
those are just my opinions though, so please don't take any offense to anything above.
dragondud
12-06-2008, 04:41 PM
archer-hates to fight- fighters, clerics
reason: fighters can stun, deal heavy damage, and have high HP and physical def. clerics have high HP, hit semi-well, have very good defense, and can the damage over time casts.
Mage -hates to fight- (probably) every class
reason: seeing as all other classes deal physical damage, which is what mages hardly have, they will die easily. unless they have +9 equips/weapons, its very difficult for them to stay alive for long.
Fighters -hates to fight- mages, higher level archers, higher level clerics
reason: mages deal magical damage, which fighters have close to none. archers have a naturally higher attack damage than fighters, and if they are higher with AOE and Kiting moves, the fighter may not even be able to touch them. Clerics who are at least 3+ levels higher than a fighter can be very annoying and hard to fight, because the fighter may get them down to 20% health, and they heal, or say the cleric is at 30% health, and the fighter misses the stun. the cleric would be back to 100% health before the stun CD was even finished.
clerics -hates to fight- fighters lvl 43+
reason: DEVA attack. nuff' said XD
those are just my opinions though, so please don't take any offense to anything above.
hehe verry true ;)
Dthugtherealist
12-06-2008, 05:22 PM
I hate fighting clerics cuz for the fact they take forever to kill. Stun helps but most clerics know how to read fighter moves cuz we duo with them so much XD Most good fighters know how to read cleric moves but still no matter what it takes forever.
thedark17
12-06-2008, 05:46 PM
nice opinions keep 'em coming ^.^
Blackremnant
12-06-2008, 05:58 PM
at any rate, it all depends on the lvl.
EriAeris
12-06-2008, 07:11 PM
Archers- Kitters... Poison/Bleed then runs... omg... unless with a mage or an archer... it's the other way around! :D
Fighters- Depeding on which ones... the Axe users... omg... I was pawned in less than like 2-3 hits... Full END FIghters... Countless HP Stones...
Mages- Damage is extremely high... Really can't survive attacks... pretty much Die after the HP Stone Cooldown is finished
Clerics- Countless Hearing... First SP Stones... then Drain HP Stones... then you get to finally kill them... that would take way too long!
All in all... you can still win :D
Temari_and_Gaara
12-06-2008, 08:46 PM
Mage - id say fighters are hard for mages, because if they stun me >.> i dont got a +9 >>> iam goneeee
fireblaz10
12-06-2008, 10:17 PM
hard to fight archers(i am a fighter)
they cast poison!not fair!!!
ToshCrimson
12-06-2008, 11:07 PM
Fighters = weak to mages. Mages have High magic damage and range which are both the fighters weaknesses. In all games mages own fighters in pvp in general.
Mages = weak to archers. Archers have high physical damage at high speeds. They also have range attacks and to top it all off poisons. The mage will be obliterated by the archer and can't even gain the advantage of distance.
Archers = weak to clerics. Archers have low def so even the clerics low damage can be enough to kill. Also the cleric is usually wicked hard to kill high def/hp as well as healing and the ability to remove the archers dots. The reason here is that the archer just cant kill them.
Clerics = weak to fighters. Fighters high damage out put is more then enough to plow through even the mightiest clerics defenses. Along with the ability to stun and stop all the clerics healing make the fighter there weakness.
Note: this is not for all battles and all players many different factors can come into play to allow the other to win. But in most cases this will be the out come.
senkitan
12-07-2008, 02:19 AM
mace user Cleric (no str build, no SC stuff) - all classes since I cant kill anything with my low dmg, but I hate fight fighters (stun) and mages (fear), archers cant kill me, clerics doesn't attack me (cleric usually dont PK, duel of 2 clerics is pointless too)
MMORPGNERD
12-07-2008, 05:56 AM
fighters-none, they own all
archers-clerics, you cant outdamage their heals, and they can cure your poisons
mages- idk xD
clerics-everyone... axe users own them, mages and archers run and clerics cant stun them.
UzumakiW
12-07-2008, 06:04 AM
This is really only for me:
As a fighter, I have a hard time at times fighting higher leveled mages, mostly because I have very low magic defense, and if they are already far away from me, and they slow me down with their ice attack, not much I can do unless I'm lucky enough to where they don't kill me before the cool down time on my stones is up.
Also, I don't really like fighting higher leveled clerics. Mostly because the fight will tend to drag on for a long time, and will more than likely end up with me defeated. If a higher leveled cleric can use both stones and healing, then there's really not too much I can do.
j0hnny_tsunami4116
12-07-2008, 06:31 AM
As a mage,
i hate fighting fighters ;-;
they're so strong ._.
and if i fight fighters at my lvl
they have such high HP, and yeah i do rather good damage
but the HP is so high, its like i did nothing on them XD
lucky fighters :3
oh and dont get me started if they put on Axes
;-;
thedark17
12-07-2008, 03:15 PM
^.^ more pl0x xD its really cool to see everyones opinions on PvP
P.S PVP KQ RULES!
~Brute
linseyc
12-07-2008, 10:27 PM
Well im a cleric str/spr build, +9 hammer/sheild, goldy like gear (not enchanced ><) and well it takes awhile for fighters to kill me unless they are DD fighters, mages i own them easily, archers they just off and >.< cant check them but if you want a fair fight then DONT RUN!!!, ^^ But myself is a good cleric only my hp is a BIG fail D: Only 2.5k at lvl 69 >< but whocares I dont and i love my dmg ^^
Ps- Christmas is comming soon xD speard the joy and cheer to everyone
thedark17
12-08-2008, 05:47 PM
Christmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas wooooot, there should be a special christmas Uber gift giving spree by the [Gm]'s t4 +9's anyone xDDD
Lety23
12-08-2008, 06:58 PM
Post above is off topic.
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My main is an archer. I spend a lot of time in abyss, sometimes just to be there because Eldy has bored me :P
Anyway, I find the hardest to fight are fighters, of course. Their stun usually doesn't work, but when it does...I'm doomed -.- <--- well actually depending on their level.
I have never fought a mage.
Clerics may be able to heal, but if I do my attacks one after the other, they might not have enough time to heal. I have beaten clerics in PvP before.
Shiirn
12-09-2008, 10:56 AM
Let's make this simple:
There is no such thing as a 'fair fight'. Each class uses what they have at their disposal.
Fighters have Devestate, which keeps their target stationary and unable to react for more then 50% of the fight. This is rather unfair, so they spam it, utilize it.
Clerics have Healing. They're nearly impossible to kill without Stun or Fear. This is rather unfair.
Mages have huge damage. They also have pitiful defense. So what do they do? They run. Of course they do. They're ranged attackers, seeing a mage go into melee range is watching a mage commit suicide.
Archers as well, we *RUN*. Like, kite. Constantly. Always. Because we can. Because our dots deal more damage then our normal attacks to fighters/some clerics.
If you want a fair fight, remove all your cash, +9, all your equips, and just normal attack eachother, no pots allowed.
Don't make me laugh.
Anyway, my archer has no problem with mages, and fighters don't have high enough aim to consistently deva me... So my hardest class would have to be clerics (Whom I'd usually just train along with the rest of my aoe mob in abyss)
theeasterbunny
12-10-2008, 04:02 AM
Fighter-Hard to Fight mages
Reason being +9 bk weps hit hard Q_Q stupid low mdef D:
zerozone01
12-15-2008, 03:12 PM
Haha i am bout to have fun with this..
Archer
I hate to fight
Fighter cuz BK weapons and spamable deva not to mention they cry when you kite them as if our little weapon (which are byt he way th elowest based damage in the game) do any damage to them.
Cleric because I simply wont kill a cleric that spams the "heal button" then they can cure our dots
I stand a chance vs mages/other archers
Another big disavantage archer have is. "You got dots" wow sure all my dot to geather maybe do 240ish damage.... as before cleric can cure them as for the other classes they can simply wear a nekky of eld and resist them half the time.
FearMySouthernAccent
12-15-2008, 03:37 PM
Fighters - If they stun me, I'm done for.
Clerics - Huge waste of stones because all they do is spam the heal button and cancel out all my dots
Mages - Hate it when they use fear and make my character go run into a wall and I get stuck. -.-
Of course, I'm sure the other classes get mad when and archer runs past and uses Mist. :P
Clerics- Hard to fight Fighters... I get destoryed by fighters because of their stun (and even the aoe stun that can kill an entire party) D:
big_blade
12-23-2008, 04:04 PM
Fighter- hard to fight EVRYONE
First, clerics- they heal an heal an heal an heal... unless i stun them, but then they use their stones...
Mages- huge damage and they run before i can stun them.
Archers- DOTs (thats a biggy), they run (just like mages), and the still do a good bit of damage.
My point is- fighters, stun stun STUN!!!
big_blade
12-23-2008, 04:04 PM
dont die lil thread... *does CPR*
spart5
12-23-2008, 04:25 PM
Lol, I go crazy when an archer hits me with dots cause running through my mind
1.I'm green
2.I think the dots are biting off huge chunks of hp
3.Little fast in cming arrows keep hitting me
I lose control and press every single skill I have XD I can't locate the heal skill so fast wen an archer pvps me, takes me some time but I get it eventualy, its just that crazy moment is so..wow...lol
nurfy
12-23-2008, 11:10 PM
archer hard to fight - everything
why cause they cant do enough damage
fighters hard to fight - mages
because low mdef but until they get the mage stunned its gg
cleric hard to fight - mages
because of stiffle duh after that my cleric gg a mage
mage hard to fight - fighter
after fighter stuns its gg lol
these are all over 70+ in my opinion and good geared
Morok
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
list is from easiest to hardest
archers: i beat a lot of them, well unless i lag i can never reach them, -loves owning archers- they do got DOTs but its too slow
fighters: depends on build, STR (or SPR) fighters are easiest kills for my own class but also risky
clerics: as long as i stun them i have a chance to kill them, other than that its just the cleric wins
mages: no contest against mages, i die before i blink so... they supposed to win unless they don't use smart moves
neolancer
12-30-2008, 10:34 PM
truthfuly my least favorite classes are archers and mages, they attack you then run when you chase them. if they don't want to die then don't attack first.
solarwings
12-31-2008, 01:26 AM
Archers - Hard to fight fighters. Cause they pwn. Glitching their stuns is fun though
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Sesshomaru
12-31-2008, 01:45 AM
As a fighter i hate fighting archers because of the kiting, if there were delay on their moves so they couldn't kite it would I wouldn't mind but i hate having to chase.
I especially hate fighting people that +9 all their armor...
neolancer
12-31-2008, 09:07 AM
archers just run too much and don't glitch the stun someone could report you for that =P
buntd
01-03-2009, 05:44 AM
Fighter-Hard to Fight *Archer*
Reason: Because They can Kite you Dx
Archer- Hard to Fight *Mage*
Reason
They hit more than you nd u cant kite them!
Mage- Hard to Fight *Fighter*
Reason
Cant do Anything when stunned XD
Cleric- Hard to Fight *Fighter*
Reason
Cant do Anything when stunned XD
Overall tho Clerics are hard to Kill because they Heal :P
ra77man
01-12-2009, 12:32 AM
As a mage I dont find it hard, but I find it kinda irritating to fight archers (and sometimes clerics).
Mainly b/c I dont like chasing archers ... lol!
For clerics its irritating b/c I gotta wait and monitor their sp - and then at an opportune time I gotta cast stifle and burn.
Easiest to fight are fighters b/c I chain fear and the rest is history... lol! :D
deathwantsu
01-16-2009, 10:13 PM
fighters-none, they own all
archers-clerics, you cant outdamage their heals, and they can cure your poisons
mages- idk xD
clerics-everyone... axe users own them, mages and archers run and clerics cant stun them.
i recon clerics have got a fair chance against everyone coz even if fighters stun clerics still got hp stones, mages fear doesn't last too long and then they can stone anyways :D. and as someone said before against archers they can cure.
vickiixx
01-17-2009, 04:38 PM
Cleric - Hard to fight Fighters =.=
their stuns are annoying, since we cant do anything when we are stunned. But i usually dont attack back o_o i just stand there and heal myself >_____> till they get annoyed and leave :P
xavier_swift
01-17-2009, 05:00 PM
Being stunned by a fighter isn't that bad for a cleric. A smart one can avoid dying from it by having pots and stones handy. Archers are the most annoying for any class because of their ability to Kite. Mages are wimps when you get in close range, and are not fast enough to get away like Archers.
If really I had to choose, my least favorite would be a cleric, even though I am one. Just think how long that battle would last.
skskfallen
01-17-2009, 09:10 PM
Ehhh, all depends....
On my mage --- Fighters: with a 1h stand no chance, +9 or not... 2h not +9, they usually aren't a problem, with a +9, it depends on the range i have, and their HP(luck of the draw)... axe, not +9 still hurts, but i have a good chance, with a +9, I'm dead, but again, depends on the range and HP(meaning if they have low HP, and i have full range, i have a chance).
But against fighters, if i'm outfitted and they aren't, i usually always win regaurdless... unless they are outfitted too.
Other mages: I almost always win, if we both are unoutfitted, due to much more than average HP on a mage... if both outfited, it will never end.
Clerics: Clerics don't die... unless i fear and get off a massive line of crits. Or the cleric is stupid and doesn't catch me casting ManaBurn.
Archers: I usually win, unless they archer is high in DEX(i have no aim), and has a +9... andddd, gets all their DoTs on me.
...This is all assuming that the people I'm fighting are the same level as I am, if the levels are unbalanced... the higher level wins(Duh!).
On me cleric --- Fighters: +9 axe, at least 5 levels higher they win, if not the battle is forever.
Mages: 10 levels higher, with a perfect use of Fear and some crits and they can win, if not the battle is forever.
Other clerics: ....Well, if one of us is AFK, the AFK person is gonna die(lmao, joking)... You already know what cleric vs cleric is like.
Archers: Yea... unless you have a UBER string of crits or are a million levels higher, i'm not gonna die.
---Disclaimer---
Ok, i don't want to hear people saying things like "Yea noob? Well you never fought me!"... That's great and all, I'm glad that your characters are strong, my entry was obviously based on what has happened, and the people i have fought. There are also exceptions, to what i have written, but i obviously am going to write what is most common.
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Bah, I'm bored... that's why this was so detailed...
skskfallen
01-17-2009, 09:28 PM
-DOUBLE POST-
sorry...
But what is all this about glitching stuns? Apparetly i missed the class about that xD
Which is unusual, i'd normally know that kind of stuff :P
skskfallen
01-17-2009, 09:41 PM
Fighters = weak to mages. Mages have High magic damage and range which are both the fighters weaknesses. In all games mages own fighters in pvp in general.
Mages = weak to archers. Archers have high physical damage at high speeds. They also have range attacks and to top it all off poisons. The mage will be obliterated by the archer and can't even gain the advantage of distance.
Archers = weak to clerics. Archers have low def so even the clerics low damage can be enough to kill. Also the cleric is usually wicked hard to kill high def/hp as well as healing and the ability to remove the archers dots. The reason here is that the archer just cant kill them.
Clerics = weak to fighters. Fighters high damage out put is more then enough to plow through even the mightiest clerics defenses. Along with the ability to stun and stop all the clerics healing make the fighter there weakness.
Note: this is not for all battles and all players many different factors can come into play to allow the other to win. But in most cases this will be the out come.
Lol.... Again with my posts
Ok, well... i agree with what you wrote, if we say these characters have no SC, and use the basic bland builds, and use white gear....
it seems like your discripion, is if we're pretty much talking about NPC's fighting >.<
fantasyxkingdom
01-28-2009, 06:47 PM
Cleric- Hard to Fight *Mage or Archer*
they can just kite and fear/poision. i died at the hands of both a mage and a fighter. not pretty.
Corpse65
01-28-2009, 08:01 PM
eh im a fighter and my least favorite is mage because of stifle and fear xD
Dragonfly77
01-28-2009, 08:30 PM
I say clerics are the hardest for archers. I can kite fighters, and if they do get close enough for a hit, it usually misses. Mages I can overpower with str attacks and DOT. But clerics keep healing themselves..