I'm SO sick of this

[redkatanasword]

Ugh!
Every single time I've entered in that stupid PVP kingdom quest, I get last place. I'm a good cleric, from what I've been told. But, there's no possible way to survive when I get stunned and THEN get killed in THREE hits. It's unfair for clerics. I think they should make this more fair!

But, then again, this is just a small cleric complaining.

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[hopeloveisbs]

Well form whats i know about pvp KQ.
First of all if your not a high lvl in thats kq of course u wont have a chance unless using Charms and extenders. For example, at lvl 49-35 pvp kq. If your anything under lvl 45 u probably have no chance. 2nd part, is u have to retrieve thats hammer fast. The hammer is wat gets ppl the most kill. Well thats from my experience. Cuz personally i cant get any kills at all without the hammer. I've been playing it smart and safe running alot and trying to get the hammer first. I dont see why everyone is complaing i cant win omg i come in last.

*The HAMMER is the solution. Get it and kill everyone. Use the freeze ball.

[saiyou8]

Well yeah, I kinda agree. I like the pvp KQ, but it's pretty hard for clerics.
I can get only to lvl75-89 one, and it's not so nice to run away from the capped fighters who stalk you and stun and kill you o.<
I feel like they only kill clerics coz we're easy targets. Clerics have good def, but still... Few capped people kill you fast ;)
Last time I was in the KQ, I really couldn't do anything coz I got team killed all the time.
But normally, if there is ppl around my lvl I can get to higher place such as #5 which is my record atm ^^;

Edit: And what hopeloveisbs said.. You really can't even open a treasure chest if you keep getting stalked + teamed o.<

[EriAeris]

It's unfair that clerics can heal and other people have to rely on their stones >.<

[saiyou8]

It's unfair that clerics can heal and other people have to rely on their stones >.<

why ppl always say healing is unfair?
Isn't stun for example unfair also? Fighters can stun and kill the target and save health (and stones).
Clerics are weak, they normally can't kill stuff thats a bit higher lvl.
Well some can, I've killed a lvl85 fighter but still.
Plus, if clerics couldn't heal... Aoe parties would be a pain.
So next time you are in an aoe party, remember.. it wouldn't be so great without a cleric that can heal. ;)

[fireblaz10]

how to get that deadly hammer?(looks damn cool,as i seen on the news and event)

[Shaden]

NightRyda, a Cleric on my server without any CS advantages, has taken 1st place in like... 25 PvP KQ's. It's obviously not too hard for a Cleric. Just use a Speed scroll and keep your weapons/giant hammer hot barred so you can Heal/Invinc. when needed.

Also, tab and spam auto-attack when you get that thing if you are being surrounded.

Take out the highest level Fighters first, then move onto lower Fighters. Finish off Mages next, then Archer, and finally Clerics. Although by then, Fighters will be swarming you again so tab out, Heal/Invinc. and kill.

Hammer is your key to victory.

[saiyou8]

how to get that deadly hammer?(looks damn cool,as i seen on the news and event)

Try to open a treasure chest.

[Lety23]

You can't really say it's unfair..

Clerics heal.
Fighters stun.
Archers can poison.
And mages...er well idk, I dont use my noob mage >.>

But overall, stun is the one that beats all.
clerics can't heal if they're stunned; archers can't poison if they're stunned; and mages can't attack if they're stunned.

But I hhave wondered...in PvP when fighters try and stun, it usually doesn't work?
Is it the dex??

Anyways, really this PvP Kingdom quest doesn't interest me at all right now.
I haven't it tried it...yet...but I don't think I'll do it any time soon.

[saiyou8]

NightRyda, a Cleric on my server without any CS advantages, has taken 1st place in like... 25 PvP KQ's. It's obviously not too hard for a Cleric.

Shaden, it's not like every cleric is NightRyda. Everyone has different way to play, and different stats etc.

[jvless]

i dont really acre if i get last i get free exp anyway :P

[autarchaurzel]

in this kq though clerics also have another distinct dis-advantage, namely, the clerics 'special ability' per say, is heal, that does nothing against the hammer, the mages and archers can hit from afar, very useful against the hammer wielder, the fighters can stun, if it works could potential net that fighter the hammer, so where do clerics benefit? they have to walk up to a one hit killer with no means of protection unlike the other classes

[darkfearie]

Okay I do agree that clerics have a disadvantage but at the same time mages have a very low def. And as someone pointed out fighters stun, clerics heal, and archers poison... do you know what we mages can do... we mana burn which is nothing against a fighter who doesn't really have to use it, or clerics and archers who have stones and pots. To me mages have it tough. Yeah I know we have distance but that just singles us out to be killes off first.:eek:

[autarchaurzel]

you've got to be kidding me, allow me to show you how mages have it good:
someone's chasing a mage (fighter i guess)
freeze him with nova, ice bolt, w/e
mana burn him
pound him with several spells
kite using thunder
rinse and repeat

[Crystal16]

you've got to be kidding me, allow me to show you how mages have it good:
someone's chasing a mage (fighter i guess)
freeze him with nova, ice bolt, w/e
mana burn him
pound him with several spells
kite using thunder
rinse and repeat

That's 1v1 (FREE FOR ALL KQ) and that won't kill him that just delays the painful death.....

I'm a damn good mage and I still can't get past 4th place....

Though I know mages better than me...

Mage = squishy = easy target = lots of deaths


I kill a lot because I AoE people who are already fighting each other. Then i get a kill if my AoE kills the person before the fighter/archer/cleric can get their last hit in...

But I'm also the first person to die every kq... They see mage. They think easy kill. Which then turns out to be about 4-8 people all having the same idea. Therefore mage dead before he can even attack D:<

I've also seen people fight over who gets to kill the mage. They run at me, get attacked by someone else who wants to kill me XD

My kill/death ratio was almost 50/50... I was +3 ... I think i had 34 kills and 31 deaths... That didn't even win the kq because there was an axe fighter who got more than me.. One he had the hammer almost the entire time and two, he was charmed, +9 gear, and lots of hp D:<

[shane3x]

I don't know if it's just me, but I find for some reason the people who get the hammer seem to run a lot faster, which makes no sense considering everyone is frozen for a few seconds once someone picks it up and it does pretty much kill in one hit.

The freezing ice thing is great against it only if other people are nearby for the hammer dude to go kill, otherwise he will wait for j00 =/

[NimbusCloud]

in this kq though clerics also have another distinct dis-advantage, namely, the clerics 'special ability' per say, is heal, that does nothing against the hammer, the mages and archers can hit from afar, very useful against the hammer wielder, the fighters can stun, if it works could potential net that fighter the hammer, so where do clerics benefit? they have to walk up to a one hit killer with no means of protection unlike the other classes

what about invincible? does that work at all?

(im not saying that the kq ISNT unbalanced, because it most obviously is, just trying to provoke thought into strategy)

[Roseanna]

First of all if your not a high lvl in thats kq of course u wont have a chance unless using Charms and extenders. For example, at lvl 49-35 pvp kq. If your anything under lvl 45 u probably have no chance.
I won it on my fighter at level 41, no cs other than my crit suit. I know someone who won it at 38. But again... fighter.


I feel like they only kill clerics coz we're easy targets. Clerics have good def, but still... Few capped people kill you fast ;)
I haven't done that level kq yet, only the lower two. That kinda surprises me though. If I get in on my fighter and see that the kq is mostly fighters and clerics I just groan cuz I know I'm not winning it. No offense to the squishies, I'll love and protect em anywhere else, but in pvp kq they are my bait. LOL. Especiallyyyyyy if a mage is dumb enough to purge me. Through a wall or not, ya think I'm not gonna know who you are? Tab is my friend, m'dear. Be a good little squishy and just die, cuz if ya fight back... especially if you purge or slow me... lol... you're so dead. But yes, back on subject, clerics... if I see they have low enough hp that I can kill em before they can hit heal, I'll go for it. But otherwise, it's just an endless drawn out battle and I coulda killed 5 mages in the time it'd take me to kill 1 cleric.

The only positive that I see about killing clerics is that I haven't met one who actually does any sort of damage to me. So I can tick them off all I want, and if they try to get revenge, I just kill em again. Squishies, on the other hand, if they get crafty and use hiding places and kiting well... and they run without lagging... they can be damn annoying. :p


It's unfair that clerics can heal and other people have to rely on their stones >.<
It makes them annoying to kill, sure, but I don't think it's unfair. We could say it's unfair for a fighter to stun, or an archer to poision-n-run, or a mage to slow. We all have our annoying qualities in pvp. That's the point... to annoy and kill each other.


But I hhave wondered...in PvP when fighters try and stun, it usually doesn't work?
Is it the dex??
I dunno, mine usually works. Though my problem is that the player keeps sliding even though stunned, and my skills don't work because of the "target is out of casting range" error, so they get away.


I've also seen people fight over who gets to kill the mage. They run at me, get attacked by someone else who wants to kill me XD
LOL I had that happen to me once. I was just sitting there thinking get off me silly, I don't do fighter vs. fighter unless it's someone way lower than me or I'm trying to get the hammer. I dunno, it's like some unspoken code of honor or something, haha. Usually we'll just devastate each other for fun, or to get someone else off of the prey we want. :p

Another good one though... I had one kq that was only 2 archers 1 mage, so you know who died a lot right. Well, me and like 5 other fighters were chasing an archer... we ended up devastating each other and the archer got away. XD


I don't know if it's just me, but I find for some reason the people who get the hammer seem to run a lot faster
I noticed this too.


Now you'll notice that I wrote all that from the point of view of my fighter. I've done kq on my cleric... it's boring, it sucks. I can't kill or be killed. What's the point? There's no way I'd touch 75-89 kq on my mage with a 10 foot pole, not yet anyway. I haven't tried the 55-69 on my archer yet, I might just for fun at some point. But by far the most fun has been on my fighter... and actually, this kq was what even drove me to MAKE a fighter.

But really, I think the other classes just need to get more crafty... know your weaknesses, find your hidden strengths. I had one kq where this one archer was just unbeatable... I couldn't take him down no matter how hard I tried. I'd just give up every time and let him poison me til he got bored of it and targeted someone else. Though I must say, when I got the hammer, I squished him with glee. But anyway, he won the kq. Just go in with the mentality that you WILL win, watch and study people, look for your ins, and do what you can. You never know.

[HeroicAce]

Im a mage and my main problem is everyone choosing to attack me at the same time. I can 1v1 people my lvl and hold my own just fine, but when i have 4 fighters 2 clerics and a archer all going "lets kill the mage" i disappear like dust. Add stun onto that and i come out with 100 deaths and maybe 2-6 kills depending on how long i can remain not stunned. im not bothered too much by it though, Im not a heavy pvp person and its good xp no matter the place i get.

[Lety23]

I see clerics problem the biggest being in the attacks.
Like in other threads that have been opened before, the clerics attack pretty much inhale vigorously.

Bash is the good attack. Pretty much the only attack. Bleed/trip just take up your SP.

This PvP KQ is not balanced at all. (stating the obvious)
and the level ranges are also a disadvantage.