WOW CAN U SAY WORST PURSUIT OF XEN EVER O.o

[mr3nasty]

Pretty much, id much rather have waste disposalover PoX.a guaranteed at least 9 xens...The mobbs were set for the wrong tiers. and i only got 4 total.Its sucks..huge waste of 2800 sc.

[Dark_Knight99]

Event would have been better if the revive didnt take so long and we didnt get booted. But with a new GM there is bound to be a few mistakes.

[catry]

For one thing, the GMs didn't even have to hold an event on Sunday. They could've taken the day off like the rest of us. Instead, there were 3 GMs there, 2 of them who aren't even SoS GMs, trying to run an event that they thought would help the community. Not only that, but they acknowledged that they made some mistakes, and attempted to compensate for it with a makeup event. And what do they get? Nothing but **** thrown their way.

So to all you whiners out there, kindly do yourselves a favor and GROW UP. People make mistakes when they try to help. GM Murdock admitted his mistake and tried to make up for it. So please shut up about how much the event sucked and this and that, and instead how about using your whining and yellow eggs towards something that's actually worth being fixed like how we can't keep a good GM because all the good ones keep getting driven away by the incessant whining and complaining?

[dylanangel]

IMO thats 4 xens you didnt have before, a waste would have been no xens for the effort ;). Try to look at the positive instead of an immediate negative towards the staff. As Kit already pointed out they didnt have to hold an event on the weekend.

[mr3nasty]

IMO that's four xens going straight to unknown book sets to get my lost exp back.
i honesty would have been better off not going to event.
and i have no sympathy for ppl who play around with money.
And u make it seem like ppl didnt have to pay for to participate in the event,it if were free i would not have even bothered to make the post at all.And i actually only use white eggs kit

[catry]

So what do you suggest? We do away with Pursuit of Xen altogther?
Or no SC events? That's fine I guess, I won't mind this game become a pay-to-play game! :D I mean, it's not like they have to make money to maintain the servers and pay staff after all! Heck, since people are all complaining about the GMs lets get them all fired! It's not like we've probably already gotten Break and Cretz fired after all with our endless whining and complaining!

[bobalitos]

lol since when was getting 4 xens a bad thing~

[Lysarius]

I'll take four xens any day. Quit getting butthurt, it was your decision to do the event. Pine over it at yourself, not the GM's.

[mr3nasty]

off topic kit i poked u.
but fine lets do this ur way.. <<
*gets buddys*

[Grapefruithead]

I'm sorry to say this, but I saw no reason in any way to change the way Pursuit of Xen was held. The last PoX was amazing and I had no complaints from it, but this time, I should've not even bothered to go, I think I would've rather gone and done nothing than get a lousy 2 xens.

I'm very thankful that they did hold a PoX today, but the type of PoX they decided to do this time was purely not worth it. Why would you bother changing an event, especially when you know people will complain about it more for turning out to be complete garbage.

Like, why change the xen drop rate? and why make it when you die you lose EXP? Also, there weren't even enough monsters to sustain us for that 10 or so minutes that it actually took us to kill all the monsters in the 4th Tier, with only 1/4 of the monsters even dropping xens to begin with.

Personally, I think most of these events nowadays need to be looked over and thought of the outcome before they just decide to throw it out there. Basically they're telling us to complain about the events, and we're not letting down, especially when we're expecting something and being told, oh this event will help with xen prices, when in fact that doesn't even turn out to be anything we expected whatsoever or have the possible outcome that the GM's/Outspark wanted.

Anyways, that's just my opinion, agree or disagree I don't care. Peace.

[mr3nasty]

I'm sorry to say this, but I saw no reason in any way to change the way Pursuit of Xen was held. The last PoX was amazing and I had no complaints from it, but this time, I should've not even bothered to go, I think I would've rather gone and done nothing than get a lousy 2 xens.

I'm very thankful that they did hold a PoX today, but the type of PoX they decided to do this time was purely not worth it. Why would you bother changing an event, especially when you know people will complain about it more for turning out to be complete garbage.

Like, why change the xen drop rate? and why make it when you die you lose EXP? Also, there weren't even enough monsters to sustain us for that 10 or so minutes that it actually took us to kill all the monsters in the 4th Tier, with only 1/4 of the monsters even dropping xens to begin with.

Personally, I think most of these events nowadays need to be looked over and thought of the outcome before they just decide to throw it out there. Basically they're telling us to complain about the events, and we're not letting down, especially when we're expecting something and being told, oh this event will help with xen prices, when in fact that doesn't even turn out to be anything we expected whatsoever or have the possible outcome that the GM's/Outspark wanted.

Anyways, that's just my opinion, agree or disagree I don't care. Peace.

ahhhh someone can say what i cant
:cool:

[catry]

I'm sorry to say this, but I saw no reason in any way to change the way Pursuit of Xen was held. The last PoX was amazing and I had no complaints from it, but this time, I should've not even bothered to go, I think I would've rather gone and done nothing than get a lousy 2 xens.

I'm very thankful that they did hold a PoX today, but the type of PoX they decided to do this time was purely not worth it. Why would you bother changing an event, especially when you know people will complain about it more for turning out to be complete garbage.

Like, why change the xen drop rate? and why make it when you die you lose EXP? Also, there weren't even enough monsters to sustain us for that 10 or so minutes that it actually took us to kill all the monsters in the 4th Tier, with only 1/4 of the monsters even dropping xens to begin with.

Personally, I think most of these events nowadays need to be looked over and thought of the outcome before they just decide to throw it out there. Basically they're telling us to complain about the events, and we're not letting down, especially when we're expecting something and being told, oh this event will help with xen prices, when in fact that doesn't even turn out to be anything we expected whatsoever or have the possible outcome that the GM's/Outspark wanted.

Anyways, that's just my opinion, agree or disagree I don't care. Peace.

FYI, the GM who used to run our events is no longer with Outspark. So you should expect events to be different.

[mr3nasty]

"Someones" mad about Cretz leaving lol.
come back to the arena kit <<

[techno-viking]

I got a few xens and lost 14% xp ( im lvl 103) and guesss what? I DON'T CARE!!!!

IT'S ONLY A GAME...IT'S ONLY XP...IT'S ONLY A FEW LITTLE RED STONES THAT COULD GET YOU AN EXTRA 1.2 MIL OR GIVE U 2 EXTRA DEF.

[catry]

"Someones" mad about Cretz leaving lol.
come back to the arena kit <<

Maybe you haven't realized that everytime the lead GM for this game leaves, development on it gets set back several months. So each time a GM is driven away, this game gets more and more behind. So yes, I am a little mad that we've lost our 4th GM in a year.
And I have better things to do with my time than waste in PvP, like gathering more xens in the Santa Lair rather than complaining about it.

[mr3nasty]

Ok kit.its not that i want more xens its that i feel cheated out of my sc.
At least realize what i am complaining about before u suggest things <<.
and fine i'll juss kill u next time u show up.

[Grapefruithead]

And I wouldn't be complaing like this if I was actually still able to go and get some xens when I actually need them from those Santa X's. But once you finish that dumb santa quest you can't go back to do so. So I'm not happy whatsoever about that.

And I don't think that a GM leaving SoS should alter the WHOLE event so it becomes something different. It's not that hard to keep the events pretty much the same.

[Daft_Brat]

First off, Murdock apologized about the exp loss, he honestly didn't think that would happen. He didn't have to apologize and he sure as heck didn't have to hold an event especially for those who didn't receive xens. Give him a break, Murdock has never been solely responsible for events and IMO him and Snake did a good job for their first PoX without the support of GMs who have been around longer. The staffing has changed, everyone needs to accept that there are going to be some changes that come along with that and events that are tweaked to fit the GMs own personal style. At least they finally listened and gave us a PoX. It IS SUNDAY for goodness sake. Cut them a little slack considering that they got badgered by whiners and complaints non-stop in game. They are people too who have feelings and who try their best to do their job and keep us happy.

[opensunflowers]

I thought that this was an AWESOME Persuit of Xen event!

I did the first tier on my lvl 39 neo, in which there were three mobs my level [krapuns, halloween starbears, pigs] and i got 35 xens. I was revived immediately by the GM's and able to continue my xen hunting.

I did the second tier on my lvl 56 scout, in which there were pink mobs for me to kill [i don't remember seeing any white ones], which was difficult [because of my scouts low defense and how i couldn't click to move back, lol] but I still got 9 xens. The "aoe is allowed" rule was kind of bogus...so much lag, and xen hording, and KSing... [kind of hard to find one monster not being aoe'd by at least 2 people, let alone get the xen from that monster] also, revivals were not that fast, i believe is because of the lag from aoe.

I did the third tier on my main, lvl 85 rogue. I didn't see any white mobs, which I felt bad for the level 71-ish players, because what did they kill? I did leave early though, so I dunno if they had different mobs. I tried to AoE...LOL. I failed miserably. However, I only got 3 xens, and again I found it hard to find a mob that wasn't being AoEd by 2+ people. revival was a bit slow as well. :/


Pro's:
Seemed like plenty of level appropriate mobs for tier 1
Xen drop rate was very nice!
The tier system was AWESOME!
Speedy revival in tier 1
I got 47 xens ;)
Non-aggro monsters
Event was on a sunday -- I was able to attend! :D

Con's:
AoE was allowed -- not to whine, but super unfair.
Revival was slowed -- because of AoE lag?
Mobs seemed too strong in tier 2?
Mobs seemed a bit too strong in tier 3
EXP loss :(


Thank you, Murdock and CobraKai!!!

[kevinata]

lol from wat is said in the post above, lag was a major problem in the event specially when players were allowed to AoE.

Perhaps it would have been better if AoE was not allowed *hint*

LOL im not really credible since i dont go to events....ever, too much lag >.>
and judging from xen prices, the event wasnt half as bad as ppl say
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will ppl just stop telling the whiners not to whine? they are not gonna stop, i know since at some days i whine nonstop

[xyangster]

I was also unsatisfied with the way the event went today. I lost 10% on my templar when I died, which is about an hour of solo aoeing edine. A very good friend of mine lost 7% when he died, and at 11x+, that's 1 day of grinding. Regardless of the prize, exp loss during an event is silly. Does our time really mean that little to Outspark?

It's highly unfair to the GM's (not to mention unproductive) to bombard them with shouts during the event -- I understand that, given personnel shifts, they are doing the best they can to respond to player demands. At the same time, I do want to hold Outspark accountable; the event was, after all, sparkcash-item-required. SoS feels heavily understaffed; I wish Outspark would try to correct for that.

[jammin001]

I'm with Taney...it wasn't an all bad or all good event. The first tier was awesome. After that it pretty much sucked...especially losing 40% exp without even knowing about it on my lvl 96 char. If I'd had any idea there was experience loss, I wouldn't have suicide aoe'd for fun. Many hours grinding down the drain there.

It was nice that Mur added the last event and apologized. You're right he didn't have to. It's also legitimate for people to be angry at losing experience and not getting the full benefit of an event they now only hold every few months. When you ask people what their favorite event is, most say PoX, and really look forward to it. Other than the apology, Mur did nothing to help those who lost experience or only got a very few xens for paying for the event, since his extra event was only for those who received zero xens. And yes, he didn't have to do it, but those people who feel they were treated wrongly should be allowed to express their views too.

Why are some of you treating people the same way you accuse them of treating the GM's?

[ggBuRNe]

Hmmm.. i went to 1st, 2nd and 4th.. All of them was awesome.. 1st was fair since everybody can't aoe and hv to solo kill to get xens.. 2nd was fine even though all mobs were red, I tried hard to kill to get some xens.. Idk about 3rd tier.. Since I know aoe is allowed, my wizard definitely got the job done with 110+ xens on 4th tier.. I believe the exp loss stopped most players from aoeing.. There is no reason for solo killer to die if u take regular white mobs or pink.. Indeed in 2nd and 3rd tier if u r less than 50, most of them are red.. It is a risk to take if you try to solo.. That is why we have party option.. I died many times at high level and I died twice in this PoX.. I am angry but I'm still happy that at least they give us this event..

GMs are trying hard to make everybody happy.. Players were asking for PoX for months and now you guys are whining about it after you got it.. OK, they made mistake.. They are human and bound to make one.. That was the 1st time they were given the task to handle PoX.. Give them a break.. At least you got some xens rather than nothing..

[ishru]

Well I got 0 xens, lost over 30% exp, and spent a lot of SC.

The event was a failure, at least for me.

[xNinja503]

So what do you suggest? We do away with Pursuit of Xen altogther?
Or no SC events? That's fine I guess, I won't mind this game become a pay-to-play game! :D I mean, it's not like they have to make money to maintain the servers and pay staff after all! Heck, since people are all complaining about the GMs lets get them all fired! It's not like we've probably already gotten Break and Cretz fired after all with our endless whining and complaining!

Cretz gone??? NOOOOOOOO he was doing good helping out SoS and listening...... >_>

[tazsbigtoy]

This was my second pursuit of xen event. It was a lot different from the previous one, but for all I know every event could be different. I didn't like the loss of experience on death with no warning, but the Murdock said he did not know that would happen. He also said he could not do anything to give the experience back. He tried to make up for the dissatisfaction by staging a makeup event. From what I understand that event was full of people not following the rules, not listening to instructions, and basically griping and yelling for the return of experience when they had already been told he could do nothing about it.

I remember going to events where if I got one xen I was happy, two I was thrilled, and i f they threw in a yellow watermelon I thought it was the greatest event ever. Now we seem to expect to get 20 or 30 xen or the event was horrible. When did that happen?

The way I see it the worst thing about the event was that there was no warning we could lose experience. Would that knowledge have stopped people from entering, probably not. Would it have stopped people from suicide aoeing? Again probably not, people are greedy and xens seem to bring out the worst in us. Would it stop people from complaining afterward, no. No matter how it was posted, how many times it was announced or how many times the gm shouted it before and during the event, there would still be a group of people who claimed they either didn't know or didn't understand.

I am sorry I lost some experience on a couple of my characters. I have a 9x character and know how hard it is to make that up and I feel for every person that lost experience, but I am glad we had a weekend event. I am glad I got to party with good friends, glad for a break in the routine. I am glad I had an opportunity to try to get xens. I am glad that Outspark and DNC seem to be trying to make changes in the game. Maybe everything is not perfect, but at least things seem to be happening now.

[MarLyG]

And yes, he didn't have to do it, but those people who feel they were treated wrongly should be allowed to express their views too.

Why are some of you treating people the same way you accuse them of treating the GM's?

I apologize in advance for getting a little off-topic, but I just have to agree wholeheartedly with this (because it's something I think a lot, but have never been able to word). I can understand people getting offended and tired with negative opinions and "complaints", but that doesn't give them the right to be disrespectful. This should be a healthy kind of community where people can express whatever they want to without being told to "shut up" or anything like that. By all means, people can disagree with each other, but they don't have to be rude about it. >.<

(This isn't directed at anyone specifically, by the way. I'm speaking generally~)

[xNinja503]

PoX was fun 1st tier....then 3rd tier...was way to mobby and laggy to kill as an archer. i lost 35% but eh watever but i do feel for the lvl 90+ that died i know how much grinding they gotta do especially lvl 96+ 1 death is like 7 hrs worth of exp... it was hard to kite around the vast mob. the mob was lvl 90+ so to get xen easy u gotta kill white mob which makes it hard for lvl 70+ and alot of us got warped out near the middle of the event....complaints should be taken into account so they can improve i kno this PoX wasn't hosted by GM that haven't hosted it b4 but it's a business and business are always gonna get complaint. and the company take those complaint to see where they are failing at and improve.

[Necronomicron]

Well I got 0 xens, lost over 30% exp, and spent a lot of SC.


lol owned :x

[masterroku]

As PAYING customers, we have the right to complain. We spent real money hoping to get Xen Stones, which most of us did, AND we also assumed that we wouldn't lose exp from dying, but that wasn't the case. Anyway, I'm just happy that the GMs at least tried to compensate for their mistake. 2 xen stones from the "make-up" event is better than nothing. Thanks guys.

[yhl1107]

I'm going to guess that there will be exp boost during upcoming holiday weekend...

[deedee479]

1) there was 2 GMs
(1) sosGM who is NEW to SOS evnts remember rider did events not murdock he's an old fiesta GM knows more about Fiesta not much on sos he's learning and didn't know that map was not a no exp loss map
(2) Cobra is a FIESTA GM is helping out seeing as cretz is goin again does not know SOS but is trying to help not his fault he did as told

2)like was said Be4 that is there day off they didn't have to do it.

3) i will say that old PoX this is for Murdock was done in the map that was said to be icemans home everyone at once and the mobs were all starbear(and no aoeing) it would have been best to say no aoe in that PoX mobs were to hgih for the aoers in the 3rd go
but you tried and i'll give you that not very well done but you tried and i told u there was gonna be a thread(listen to me next time :P)

4) there will be an exp boost this week end Murdock has said be4 he let eveey one in for a second go i am up set too about the exp loss i lost 33% that was week of lvling solo with 100% book boost bear helm and body and boost bag(so don't think i'm not upset)

[ck191049]

I'd like to start off by saying that I absolutely love our gm's and SOS so don't think that my post in any way means that I hate Outspark.

Now I'd like to start off by saying that I, and several others, have had several problems with this event:

1) The mobs for the event were in several ways uneven and unfair. I've heard numerous complaints about this issue during the event, however as most events are like this I am not immensely concerned with this issue. However, due to how many people I've heard that have had issues with this, I felt that it is worth mentioning

2) People breaking rules and going against the GM's rule to not aoe. Granted that the GM said that we COULD aoe during the actual event and NOT aoe during the make up event afterwards, should be noted. I was very sad to see people in the make up event aoe'ing. The experience that they gained from killing such lower level mobs would be very insignificant, and the lower level players who could actualy benefit from killing the mobs were left out. I was saddened that such high level players, who were obviously not noobs (I saw a sin doing this), doing something that was very unright and unfair.

3) One of the main issues I had with this event was the experience lost. As with most events and special lairs, for example the Awakenings, Boss Daze, Waste Disposal, Christmas Lairs, The Great Xenian Feast, Drekard's Stories, and Elect a GM (just to name a few), there is no experience lost, and very rarely is it announced that there will be no experience lost as it is automatically assumed. I understand that the experience loss is a mistake, but as with all mistakes there is repercussions. Many players were very angry by this, I myself lost more then 30% before i realized what was happening. I'm am sincerely grateful that GM_Murdock attempted to right the situation by taking up his own time to do a continuation of the event after wards. However, and i think many would agree, that 2 xen stones does not make up for a sizeable sum of experience lost (Im sure many higher lvls will agree with me). Perhaps this should have been looked into more before the event had started.

I purchased the item in order to participate in an event that I thought would be fair and rewarding, and while I did manage to have a little fun, the unfairness and the experience mistake that was made, for me, highly outweighed the pros of the event.

Keep in mind that I understand that this is a complaint, as so many other people who have posted have come to the mindset that we should not be complaining about these issues and be appreciative for what we have. But also keep in mind that this event was indeed not a free event, I, as everyone else who participated in the event, paid actual money to participate. I understand that had the event required no SC items, that we should appreciate what we had received, However, since this is a paid event, certain standards should be met.

As a paying customer i RESERVE the right to complain if what i receive is not to my liking. I hope that in real life if you purchase something which does not meet up to your standards that you do complain and stand up for yourself, and that is precisely what I am doing right now.

I have submitted a formal complain to outspark, but as this forum appeared, i found it fitting to post something here as well.

4) A final issue that I have noticed, while only looking at this forum, is the rudeness that some people have in this specific post, I will not point direct fingers, But if you are given an award or a privileged position, I, and im sure many others, should expect those who have been given an award, such as an mvp or community leader one, to construct arguments in a positive manner. I was offended by some of the things and language that certain individuals have used and have implied on using during their posts. And telling people who complain to grow up is a silly thing to ask, as there are many players in this game under the age of 15. I assume that the GM's were prepared to deal with children.

But let me end by saying that I do LOVE Outspark and the MANY hours of fun that I have had in this game. This is precisely why I complain and why I make suggestions, so that I may improve the gameplay for not only myself, but others as well. I'm a very appreciative customer to Outspark, and as I continue to play I look forward to issues such as this being resolved.

[davisf18]

There has never been a guarantee that you will get a xen stone if you chose to participate in a pursuit of xen event. It is your choice and your choice alone to buy spark cash and the items needed to participate in said event and no one else. If you do not win a xen stone it's not a GM's fault or a players fault.

It is understandable if your computer freezes and you can't get xen stones. But Outspark and the GM's are not responsible for anyone not winning xen stones, regaurdless of what the circumstances are. Again it is YOUR CHOICE to participate and purchase spark cash. If you have a complaint about an event such as Pursuit of Xen, send a PM to a Game Master or Outspark about said complaint. Or to be constructive you can start a forum about ways to "improve" or new ideas for events.

Since some people are getting offended with this thread I will close it before flaming begins, if you have any questions feel free to PM me. Good luck solstice players and have fun!

[CM_JungleCurry]

Hey All

We would like to clarify; it was not intended for the event to be held on a map that had EXP loss. That was a mistake on our part and we apologize. Unfortunately we cannot return lost EXP, but Murdock tried to help by running an extra event past the time he had on that day.

We will continue to try to improve our events, and we value the feedback in these threads.