Solution to abyss xd

[animeswimmerfan]

well i have a few choices but READ THE ONE ON THE KOREAN VERSION

1. return caps in abysses to normal to make the fights no some "jerk" killing mobs of noob for Kill points ( notes this will NOT happen)

2. people gain a life ( also not likely to happen lol) and no i don't mean this negatively just really if all your excitement comes from killing random people in the abyss i feel bad for you ! XD

3. AND THE IMPORTANT ONE THAT COULD HAPPEN !!!!

Now correct me if im wrong but in the KOREAN version of this there are NO PARTYS AND NO NAMES in the abyss
That should have been what our's is but they changed it slightly!

now i know that doing that will kill the abyss XD exactly i know that some people solo abysses ( like me)
but most are in a party
this will stop all the problems in abyss since you never know if that was a real person

( notes i guess they'd have to make random fakes with +9s lol )


and that is all i hope like heck someone reads this lol

[Lety23]

No parties in abyss?
Ridiculous. Then when leveling you would have to solo. Quite difficult for mages, if you ask me. And when even trying to work together, it would be a problem for the exp., and for certain attacks.

And this won't stop people from teaming.

[animeswimmerfan]

but you'd never know if that was a fake or a real person and yes i know about the mage problem ( i try soloing as a mage in abyss it's quite painful)

it may sound wrong but their aren't party in abyss for the Korean version and all the people show up as ???

and this also gets rid of the plvled noobs ( mostly )
but really it wasn't meant to be a full lvling zone ( im looking at the people that never leaving elderine / uruga and all they do is kill in the abyss)

[Zh0ngGu0ZhiZa0]

its not hard to tell whos a fake player and whos a real one...fake ones usually wear equips that dont make sense (28 pants + 70 top)...and also, this would just mean less "on purpose" player killing and more "accidental" player killing.

[animeswimmerfan]

yeah that's a problem at the moment but they could make them look that same lvls im sure >.<

and yes you would never know if you killed someone XD ( well now that i think about it you can see people use stones right) hmm another problem but again this is how the KOREAN version did it so..... why we change it?

off topic
night i'll check in the morning

[emma_]

Would talking show up if everybody's ??? or would there be silence in teh abyss to? D:

[animeswimmerfan]

You can't talk in the Abyss in the Korean version

[Chaola]

This is a good idea, but with the unbalance in the classes, this is again to favor fighters...

To implement that, some work on the class balance is in order...

[theeasterbunny]

hmmm theyd prob have to give the npc all the skills of normal players aswell o.o otherwise a mage casting nova/inferno on you is abit obv its a person

[animeswimmerfan]

i thought i favoured archer most >< they are free to aoe mobs and run where ever they want

but yes most mage would be unable to self aoe and it's fairly pointless for a cleric to solo XD ( yeah i solo abyss as a cleric but i can get 8X the exp on my archer as i can on my cleric in the same abyss ( in the same time))

and yes again skills and such would be a problem

[Plushii]

The lvl 70 abyss is horrible with lvl restrictions lifted!

LvL 60's are taking over >.<
I wish everybody 69 and below would stick to their lvl 60 abyss.

1; There are not enough mobs in the lvl 70 abyss for the lvl 70 people to share.
2; We can't go to lvl 60 abyss cuz we don't get exp/drops there.
3; We can't go to lvl 80 abyss cuz of the crazy evasion.

So please if you are below lvl 70 GET OUT of the lvl 70 abyss >.<

[xIOhenryOIx]

i think the idea is stupid
would u not notice how someone im abyss with ??? is doing 1k crits whilethe npc one is only doin 1xx
and if someone go's in with cash outfit thts definetly gonna be a player

[Zh0ngGu0ZhiZa0]

also ??? mobs always walk...most players dont XD

[animeswimmerfan]

XD about the 70 abyss i know but im guilt of aoe as a 62 archer because it's 8times as fast as my cleric ><

i know there are lots of faults with it but im sure they can make a patch to make everyone " APPEAR" the same but im really doubting they will change anything
And yes that is true most people don't just walk around ( notes yes i do ( normally to help cure boredom)) they'd have to make random ??? fakes then run aroudn ><
also they'd have to fight monster around them
and yes this would have to be a huge update ( and out spark normally trys to avoid those)

maybe i should just learn Korean and switch lol

[Lety23]

I still see not one problem with abyss.
well, of course, there's the occasional bothers, but not anything that has to be changed.

I think we're following the Korean version for the most part.
But I don't think we're following step by step of it; not every little detail.


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Kind off topic, but it makes me wonder.

We take peeks at their gameplay, right? How they have it.
Well, lol do they do the same?
I mean what if they want this abyss? Do they want something we have they don't?
I am suddenly really curious >.>

[Andromeda]

The lvl 70 abyss is horrible with lvl restrictions lifted!

LvL 60's are taking over >.<
I wish everybody 69 and below would stick to their lvl 60 abyss.

1; There are not enough mobs in the lvl 70 abyss for the lvl 70 people to share.
2; We can't go to lvl 60 abyss cuz we don't get exp/drops there.
3; We can't go to lvl 80 abyss cuz of the crazy evasion.

So please if you are below lvl 70 GET OUT of the lvl 70 abyss >.<

While your at it tell the Lv 70s to take a hike from the Lv 60 abyss its simply not going to happen.

PS: The evasion for the Lv 80 Abyss was fixed

[lucky.star]

hmm and yes the 80 abyss evasion did get fixed ( woot somewhere to train my cleric other then the 80 duguen)

and again i doubt they'd do this to us since we are soooo use to the partyable abyss XD

( notes alt account)

[cruelbear]

This idea makes perfect sense because a lvl 36 fighter with a +9 axe and a rainbow of scrolls that sits by the entrance of the lvl 20 abyss spawn killing people in 2 hits is just like all the ??? fighters. What do you do when you get spawn killed repeatedly then? The only thing you can do is leave the abyss because you can't party with others that are getting spawn killed to kill the spawn killer. Also people that do that don't have to worry about their victims getting revenge because no one knows who killed them. I honestly don't see how this would be any better than how it is right now.

[The-Great-Paladin]

Alternatively..
Don't enter the abyss if all you are going to do is complain about it then have nothing to complain about, why enter places you complain about to me thats just dumb, its like booking a table at a chinese restaurant when you hate chinese.

post was not directed soley at anyone in the trend, just the complainers.

[animeswimmerfan]

This idea makes perfect sense because a lvl 36 fighter with a +9 axe and a rainbow of scrolls that sits by the entrance of the lvl 20 abyss spawn killing people in 2 hits is just like all the ??? fighters. What do you do when you get spawn killed repeatedly then? The only thing you can do is leave the abyss because you can't party with others that are getting spawn killed to kill the spawn killer. Also people that do that don't have to worry about their victims getting revenge because no one knows who killed them. I honestly don't see how this would be any better than how it is right now.

yeah i understand but the abyss is NOT surpose ( can't spell >.>) to be a lvling zone
it's a zone you CAN use IF you CHOSE to!
and yeah as much as i hate that too i can get basicly the same ammount of exp in the same time out of the abyss as i can in the abyss ( i solo normally)

[dreico]

why everyone thinks fighters the best... everyone has weakness.
lets see im a fighter (but) mages use fear... tht means im dead before i stun them since +9 don't protect from magic atks

[borednl]

why everyone thinks fighters the best... everyone has weakness.
lets see im a fighter (but) mages use fear... tht means im dead before i stun them since +9 don't protect from magic atks

Most fighters survive a mage's fear, but no mage survives a fighter's stun (unless they pot several times and even then it's only a mage with +9 END armors vs a high END fighter).

If you aren't surviving a mage's attacks while feared, then.. well, that's pretty ghetto. Even my lvl48 fighter with low SPR usually survives the fear duration.

[nurfy]

lol people act like abyss isnt suppose to be pvp

[FaytLeonheartOmega]

There's nothing wrong with abyss its fine perfect the system is set just perfect its the people inside that are making it not 'fun' accept death or make a party and fight back there are reasons why it's designed the way it is and why it has mobs think about it use the map to ur advantage

[themichael]

Well if they did remove the parties Im pretty sure us archers would hate each other cuz there would be several trains of mobs all the time.

Fighters may be there 2.

But i doubt any mages or clercs would be there...
or a very slim amount anyways.

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[themichael]

Which I wouldnt mind much.

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[kwadjo12]

the abyss is terrible now. You lose exp whenever you die from someone. :/

[xena99]

I have painfully experienced a respawn ghoul who sits at the respawn site in lvl 70 abyss and kills anyone who respawns, I know we get a few moments to regroup immediately after respawning but this is really a cowardly way to pick up kills and should be discouraged by having anyone who is killed to respawn immediately outside abyss.
I don't think you should have a free zone in abyss, because others will run in and out of it attacking and then standing safely in the free zone, likely taunting their recent prey.
This happens enough now when someone finds they picked on someone too strong and runs for the exit,

[themichael]

Actually I think its great the way it is just remove the exp loss and it Would be great that way it is.

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[penguinkool]

Why are we interested in emulating the Koreans? OS has made quite a profitable enterprise of the abyss system they have, it seems to work quite well hence the vain complaints have gone unheard.

Here's my proposed fix for the abyss: add a deleveling stipulation, if you get killed at 0% then you lose a level and go back to 99.8% :D.

[penguinkool]

I have painfully experienced a respawn ghoul who sits at the respawn site in lvl 70 abyss and kills anyone who respawns, I know we get a few moments to regroup immediately after respawning but this is really a cowardly way to pick up kills and should be discouraged by having anyone who is killed to respawn immediately outside abyss.
I don't think you should have a free zone in abyss, because others will run in and out of it attacking and then standing safely in the free zone, likely taunting their recent prey.
This happens enough now when someone finds they picked on someone too strong and runs for the exit,

I know it's a double post so flame away.

You're lame if you get spawn killed; period. There is a login buff that makes you invincible and lasts long enough for you to safely exit the abyss. There is no such thing as "spawn killing," it's impossible sweetheart.

[sebax15x]

i need a blue hammer +9 D:
im very weak D:
and i hate the pk's <,<

[mysweetescape]

You say return the old level caps. I agree on this too, even though it won't happen. But really, a lvl 29 can beat a lvl 20 as much as a lvl 36 can beat a lvl 27.

No party in the Abyss? Um... This won't really reduce teaming as much. I mean, we can't attack guildies anymore in the Abyss, right? Well you don't have to party... People can just team with guildies.

Soloing all the time? Try to solo with a lvl 20 Mage, Npc wand/equips. Low Hp, low Def, and low amount of Hp stones. Big pain, enough said.

No talking in the Abyss? Okay, the idea ish... alright... o.o It would fix the name calling thingy problem, but aww... c'mon, who doesn't want to talk? xD Of course though no one really wants to be name called either... Dx

People get a life and stop Abyss killing? Lol.
Well, if you tell me that you haven't killed one person ticking you off in the Abyss, maybe I'll stop keeling people that annoy me too...

And yes, I do kill random people. Why? Because Abyss is a PvP Zone, that's why. It's annoying, but hey, I don't complain when I get killed by someone I attacked. I often kill to see how much dmg I do on people, or how fast I can keel them... =/

For a solution to reducing Abyss complaints, I say just remove the exp loss thingy... ><

[moosecat]

Why Have mobs in the abyss at all if you're focusing it on pvp centric Ideals?

[themichael]

Why Have mobs in the abyss at all if you're focusing it on pvp centric Ideals?

Lol because the mobs are the reason they fight XD

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[lucky.star]

>< ( again my alt account too lazy to change ) { made the forum}

honestly OS needs to think a bit about the people in the game not there money in the bank ( well yeah it's a company)

and lol penguinkool XD sweet i could delvl down to lvl 1 with my 78 gears lmfao