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Artemis1814
12-10-2008, 01:21 PM
I find these levels the worst especially at higher levels like say... 50... after I was level 49.. with a repeatable quest for only 20k exp.. sounds bad? Well after Bam I level woohoo I though I would have gotten more quests from it but only recieving a mere 2 quests with one continued 1 more time, for collecting maces. Now you get no more quests, you're simply forced to Abyss, KQ, or Grind at a Dungeon which I found a little much a joke for me. As I choose I can go abyss I do so only to find myself mobbing then getting jumped by an Archer with all T3's Enchancer and 2 other members.. So then after I go grab a Cleric.. Then I go back to Abyss and get killed by a group of 5.. so I quit since the only way people can actually seem to kill someone is when they are mobbing or not man enough to actually 1v1, or ask instead of going Kill! Kill! Kill!.. but I admit it was a bit my fault. So basically grinding is tooken out, since the fact that theres a huge gap in dungeons, the TK Dungeon in CP, or the 'CP' Dungeon in Goblin Camp which ends up being too low or too high. Asking for a PT isn't much of an option since I'm stuck below we're I get my Nature's Mist. Now KQ.. Honeying WOOHOO!!.. err yea right. leaving 9/10 fails, Ever since I got the Honeying Quest 3 for the Bee kill and shadow bee's the rest has been fails. Now MD KQ? Already did all the quests, So why not MD HC? Well basically here's what I don't get I'm spending so much time to level and I didn't level, So Im basically the middle-class level in MD, But sooo many people fill up their PT's with warrior. What's the problem? Warriors in especially MD KQ is where they end up starting to leech endlessly especially at the last boss Mini Dragon himself, (Unless they are the Tanker or Sub-Tanker) which leaves me puzzled even more.. Why would you invite a leecher and not a 'DD' Damage Dealer especially an Archer??? I'm using +6 gears(Not much, but it helps alot for me). Now to wrap this all up, now since MD KQ is even more of a waste of time, and MD HC gives me 110400 EXP for completion but there's not much of a chance to suceed it depending of the group you have. People may not have this kind of problem, but for me and people who may have experienced this endlessly since where most my friends at 6X-7X complain to me its even gonna be worse. There we go. If anyone can feel free to talk about their oppinion on this type of topic and maybe a suggestion on what would be the best way to get past this(for people who may not have people pleveling them, or SC). Also asking respectfully, don't tell me how bad my level is, or anything regarding to that or this topic, just wondering if any other people had came to this problem, and know a good way to get past these levels with no quests.

borednl
12-10-2008, 01:44 PM
Dude, format your posts, please. A block of text is hard to read and most people won't take the time to do so. Separate it by paragraph, use bullet points, and lists.

Zh0ngGu0ZhiZa0
12-10-2008, 01:59 PM
sigh, u know back in the day quests werent even worth doing? repeats gave like .1% each time. even abyss wasnt avilable till later for me. i remember it took a week to lvl once during 5x. now lvling is much easier. if theres a repeat at the current lvl, keep doing them, save the other quests. if im not mistaken, lvl 51-55 have repeats, and at 56, use ur saved quests and grind whats left until the next lvl with repeats. at 6x, i believe theres repeats all the way to 67, and by 68, i had enough quests saved up to lvl to 70 easily. no matter how easier they make lvling, theres always gonna be complaining, if u dont have the patience or dont save ur quests, then just take a break and start another character. i dont see why OS has to make it any easier for people, people can get to lvl 60 in like a week...and easily cap within a month now. theres no challenge anymore

spart5
12-10-2008, 03:37 PM
Please, break them up so I can read it lol.

DF001
12-10-2008, 03:41 PM
sigh, u know back in the day quests werent even worth doing? repeats gave like .1% each time. even abyss wasnt avilable till later for me. i remember it took a week to lvl once during 5x. now lvling is much easier. if theres a repeat at the current lvl, keep doing them, save the other quests. if im not mistaken, lvl 51-55 have repeats, and at 56, use ur saved quests and grind whats left until the next lvl with repeats. at 6x, i believe theres repeats all the way to 67, and by 68, i had enough quests saved up to lvl to 70 easily. no matter how easier they make lvling, theres always gonna be complaining, if u dont have the patience or dont save ur quests, then just take a break and start another character. i dont see why OS has to make it any easier for people, people can get to lvl 60 in like a week...and easily cap within a month now. theres no challenge anymore

yea, a repeat was 14k exp and now it's like 10% of a level.

Lety23
12-10-2008, 03:42 PM
I find these levels the worst especially at higher levels like say... 50... after I was level 49.. with a repeatable quest for only 20k exp.. sounds bad? Well after Bam I level woohoo I though I would have gotten more quests from it but only recieving a mere 2 quests with one continued 1 more time, for collecting maces. Now you get no more quests, you're simply forced to Abyss, KQ, or Grind at a Dungeon which I found a little much a joke for me. As I choose I can go abyss I do so only to find myself mobbing then getting jumped by an Archer with all T3's Enchancer and 2 other members.. So then after I go grab a Cleric.. Then I go back to Abyss and get killed by a group of 5.. so I quit since the only way people can actually seem to kill someone is when they are mobbing or not man enough to actually 1v1, or ask instead of going Kill! Kill! Kill!.. but I admit it was a bit my fault. So basically grinding is tooken out, since the fact that theres a huge gap in dungeons, the TK Dungeon in CP, or the 'CP' Dungeon in Goblin Camp which ends up being too low or too high. Asking for a PT isn't much of an option since I'm stuck below we're I get my Nature's Mist. Now KQ.. Honeying WOOHOO!!.. err yea right. leaving 9/10 fails, Ever since I got the Honeying Quest 3 for the Bee kill and shadow bee's the rest has been fails. Now MD KQ? Already did all the quests, So why not MD HC? Well basically here's what I don't get I'm spending so much time to level and I didn't level, So Im basically the middle-class level in MD, But sooo many people fill up their PT's with warrior. What's the problem? Warriors in especially MD KQ is where they end up starting to leech endlessly especially at the last boss Mini Dragon himself, (Unless they are the Tanker or Sub-Tanker) which leaves me puzzled even more.. Why would you invite a leecher and not a 'DD' Damage Dealer especially an Archer??? I'm using +6 gears(Not much, but it helps alot for me). Now to wrap this all up, now since MD KQ is even more of a waste of time, and MD HC gives me 110400 EXP for completion but there's not much of a chance to suceed it depending of the group you have. People may not have this kind of problem, but for me and people who may have experienced this endlessly since where most my friends at 6X-7X complain to me its even gonna be worse. There we go. If anyone can feel free to talk about their oppinion on this type of topic and maybe a suggestion on what would be the best way to get past this(for people who may not have people pleveling them, or SC). Also asking respectfully, don't tell me how bad my level is, or anything regarding to that or this topic, just wondering if any other people had came to this problem, and know a good way to get past these levels with no quests.

Lol I read all of it T.T
My eyes hurt...

anyway, I have the same problem.
I have literally given up on my cleric (level 52)
Why? Because it's only abyss.
I tried MD, it's not the same not worth it.
Hardcore? Well, considering your description, I'm not trying it.

Well, my archer has always been my main, so I'm getting back on that.
But, these quests need to be changed, or more should be added.

I remember when my cleric finally reached lvl47....I thought I would never get to lvl50...
Technically, it di d take me months, though, that may just be me.

DF001
12-10-2008, 03:45 PM
Things were way harder back then. Guard Paulmon didn't even exist, and quests gave half of the exp.

spart5
12-10-2008, 06:06 PM
Lol I read all of it T.T
My eyes hurt...

anyway, I have the same problem.
I have literally given up on my cleric (level 52)
Why? Because it's only abyss.
I tried MD, it's not the same not worth it.
Hardcore? Well, considering your description, I'm not trying it.

Well, my archer has always been my main, so I'm getting back on that.
But, these quests need to be changed, or more should be added.

I remember when my cleric finally reached lvl47....I thought I would never get to lvl50...
Technically, it di d take me months, though, that may just be me.

Yes it takes 4evR to level from 50-60 its literaly like a meteor the size of Pamela Andersons butt that hit your face.

xlonethreat
12-10-2008, 06:16 PM
oO ur block of text was so long i didnt even read it

Lety23
12-10-2008, 06:59 PM
Yes it takes 4evR to level from 50-60 its literaly like a meteor the size of Pamela Andersons butt that hit your face.


Which is why I wonder: Is there even a reason to keep going??
I mean what is there for clerics at lvl60??
Lol I'm not even going to try and get past that unless they add better attacks T.T

Or maybe I will when I cap my archer....which will never happen...

FlashBoom
12-10-2008, 08:36 PM
sigh, u know back in the day quests werent even worth doing? repeats gave like .1% each time. even abyss wasnt avilable till later for me. i remember it took a week to lvl once during 5x. now lvling is much easier. if theres a repeat at the current lvl, keep doing them, save the other quests. if im not mistaken, lvl 51-55 have repeats, and at 56, use ur saved quests and grind whats left until the next lvl with repeats. at 6x, i believe theres repeats all the way to 67, and by 68, i had enough quests saved up to lvl to 70 easily. no matter how easier they make lvling, theres always gonna be complaining, if u dont have the patience or dont save ur quests, then just take a break and start another character. i dont see why OS has to make it any easier for people, people can get to lvl 60 in like a week...and easily cap within a month now. theres no challenge anymore

i agree lol, when i was lvling there like was no repeat quests, @ 50 a quest repeat gave like 236exp...
and there were less quests, i lvled when there was abyss from 3x-6x, so i was able to do heavy grinding sessions there, but lv1-60 is MUCH eazier then it was lol

and also u think 5x is hard? LOL try 84+ when repeats give 1-2% each, and sometimes its hard finding pts...

SweetLavender
12-10-2008, 08:57 PM
It isn't supposed to be easy to level once you hit the high level Oo

as others have posted, back then we had to work our butts off to level. no abyys, little exp from repeat quests, just grind fests. appreciate what you have

grind in the abyss. should get good exp at such an early level

IroguroMeek
12-10-2008, 09:07 PM
It isn't supposed to be easy to level once you hit the high level Oo

as others have posted, back then we had to work our butts off to level. no abyys, little exp from repeat quests, just grind fests. appreciate what you have

grind in the abyss. should get good exp at such an early level

Yup, I think those that are complaining that it is too hard is a bit spoiled =p (no offense). If we could lvl to 60 with 70% of our quest bugged back then, you guys should be able to too. You have the luxary of having quest that actually give decent amount of xp and abyss. Try grinding on orcs for hours a day for weeks to get 50 and then fighting over trumpy spots cause they were the only decent mobs that were easy to kill and gave decent exp.

I'm thankful I was lazy and didn't level til the abyss came out, i feel sorry for those poor souls who hit lvl 79 leveling off of ancient stonies.

Besides, it isn't THAT hard, I leveled my alt fighter from 49-60 in like 3 days, I only played like 4 hours a day on it too. You just have to know where to go grind and how to use your quest wisely. Idk maybe it's just because this stuff isn't new to me, but like everyone said, be grateful for what you have because back then it was 10x harder than it is now.

artboi
12-10-2008, 10:51 PM
damn noobs dont know how to grind :P

this game is so freaking easy, if you ask an experienced player on what to do, he/she will tell you to save quests until you reach a hard level.

i bet you i can get a character to lvl60 in a week.

i dont know how much easier you want outspark to make this game, this game is alrdy so without challenge >_> the only challenge left on it is get all your equipments +9.

So here is an idea for you guys that dont know what it was like b4 we had abysses, suck it up and go grind in abyss, simple as that.

as for tha block of text that the OP presented i didnt even read it, reading the title explained it all :S

GO GRIND

Ryokosha
12-11-2008, 01:02 AM
People are just spoiled from the really high quest exp in this game. They rely on it too much.

dark94
12-11-2008, 03:05 AM
i agree lol, when i was lvling there like was no repeat quests, @ 50 a quest repeat gave like 236exp...
and there were less quests, i lvled when there was abyss from 3x-6x, so i was able to do heavy grinding sessions there, but lv1-60 is MUCH eazier then it was lol

and also u think 5x is hard? LOL try 84+ when repeats give 1-2% each, and sometimes its hard finding pts...

Sup Flash :D

*I hate kidmons and evil trees -.-*

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 04:25 AM
damn noobs dont know how to grind :P

this game is so freaking easy, if you ask an experienced player on what to do, he/she will tell you to save quests until you reach a hard level.

i bet you i can get a character to lvl60 in a week.

i dont know how much easier you want outspark to make this game, this game is alrdy so without challenge >_> the only challenge left on it is get all your equipments +9.

So here is an idea for you guys that dont know what it was like b4 we had abysses, suck it up and go grind in abyss, simple as that.

as for tha block of text that the OP presented i didnt even read it, reading the title explained it all :S

GO GRIND
You, my good sir...are clueless.


And will people finally STOP SAYING IT USED TO BE HARDER. I dont give a -beep- if it took you a year to lvl, the OP has a good point. I think every lvl should at least have a repeatable quest. Cause there are actually people (yes really) who dont play Fiesta 50 houres a week and buy for hundreds of dollars spark cash. So for those who consider this a hobby instead of a job and play a few houres a week, theres is little motivation at some lvls.

But with abyss and KQ's and events and all, im not complaining. Just saying that every lvl should have a repeatable quest, thats all.

Anyone who thinks he can get a character to lvl 60 in two weeks, should seriously consider going outside for a change. (I am aware that this argument is about as valuable as saying "it used to be harder to lvl")

Chaola
12-11-2008, 04:33 AM
You, my good sir...are clueless.


And will people finally STOP SAYING IT USED TO BE HARDER. I dont give a -beep- if it took you a year to lvl, the OP has a good point. I think every lvl should at least have a repeatable quest. Cause there are actually people (yes really) who dont play Fiesta 50 houres a week and buy for hundreds of dollars spark cash. So for those who consider this a hobby instead of a job and play a few houres a week, theres is little motivation at some lvls.

But with abyss and KQ's and events and all, im not complaining. Just saying that every lvl should have a repeatable quest, thats all.

Anyone who thinks he can get a character to lvl 60 in two weeks, should seriously consider going outside for a change. (I am aware that this argument is about as valuable as saying "it used to be harder to lvl")

I really don't know what to say, but the day OS do that... I'm quitting...

If you want to have it easy, go play Hobo Hotel...

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 04:37 AM
You will quit the day that you have repeatable quests?

Chaola
12-11-2008, 04:45 AM
For the 1-60, to have repeatable quests for EACH level is a completly INSANE idea...

It's already so easy... So yeah, if they do that... No need to play anymore, it would be the same as starting off directly at level 60 and work from there...

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 04:56 AM
I dont get it...most lvls allready have a repeatable quest...we're talking about..i dunno...maybe 3 or 4 lvls that dont have one.

it would be the same as starting off directly at level 60 and work from there...Thats kinda exaggerating dont you think? I didnt say they would have to give you high xp...

dark94
12-11-2008, 05:07 AM
Yeah at least a repeat quest giving 1-2% will let you the choice to questing / grinding / going in abyss.

I don't get you Chaola, do you think all players are teenagers ?

When you have only 1-2 hour per day to play, it could keep you playing.

Why some players left the game or stop leveling at some level ? This game is not supposed to be for hardcore gamers but casual gamers because, you know, we are a lot more than hardcore gamers and ... BUSINESS is BUSINESS :D

Outspark is not a charity company as far as I know >.<

Chaola
12-11-2008, 05:07 AM
From what I remember on my mage, in your 5x, you only have 51 - 52 - 53 - 54 - 55 - 57

That's already a lot of repeatable, and even then, people complains about having to *gasp* grind ?

If you actually did all those repeatable, and by saying do them, I'm speaking of doing all 57 with seniors tortured for example, then you won't have any need for grind to get to 60...

I know, I did it... Twice...

It's already so easy (OMG I'm getting old, repeating myself), to get to 60

After, 6x are a little tricky, but even there, if you're playing it smart, it's still easily doable...

7x is the big grind feast, and THERE you can complain about not having repeatable...

But I think you'll be mostly happy in the 8x...

Yes, EVERY level have a repeatable, woohoo, good for you !

Now go do them, for those who give the maximum exp, 10 times... The less gives about 2%...

Repeatable aren't the answer...

I play a game where I want to have to work for my levels... I don't want to breeze through them, and say "Wow, already capped"

Yeah at least a repeat quest giving 1-2% will let you the choice to questing / grinding / going in abyss.

I don't get you Chaola, do you think all players are teenagers ?

When you have only 1-2 hour per day to play, it could keep you playing.

Why some players left the game or stop leveling at some level ? This game is not supposed to be for hardcore gamers but casual gamers because, you know, we are a lot more than hardcore gamers and ... BUSINESS is BUSINESS :D

Outspark is not a charity company as far as I know >.<

I don't think this game is for casual player... You have a 8x char, you know what it's like there... Why are they easing the 70 first levels, to start the actual game at 80 ?

Those people, whining about how hard is the level 49 will only quit once they hit 80... Maybe even before... So what is the point ???

dark94
12-11-2008, 05:10 AM
I play a game where I want to have to work for my levels... I don't want to breeze through them, and say "Wow, already capped"

I want to play to have fun not working LMAO

DF001
12-11-2008, 05:16 AM
I used to play 15-16 hours a day.

Chaola
12-11-2008, 05:18 AM
I want to play to have fun not working LMAO

You can work on your leveling while having fun ._.

The thing I'm trying to say, is, by easing the leveling, you get people who will level faster and faster, easier and easier...

And now, you get to 70, and see tons of players who can't play their char... Downgrade the level of the game...

Put it simple : the easier it is, the more noobs we'll have...

There is exceptions, of course...

But the gasp you have between the first 70 levels and the 20 last (for now) is incomprehensible... And don't help the player at all...

undeadgun
12-11-2008, 05:46 AM
IMO it really depends on the person behind the moniter... if he/she choose to be casual, then he will probably enjoy the game for a long time. On the other hand, a hardcore gamer will have to face the grind feast sooner or later. There is nothing in between, if you cant stand the grind feast, go back to casual, or uninstall.

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 05:58 AM
If it wouldnt be for the casual gamer then it wouldnt be F2P. How many % of the SC buyers do you think is hardcore? This isnt Asia, most ppl here are American or European and arent hardcore. It will never be like it is there...period

True hardcore players wouldnt make it easy on themselves by buying Spark cash anyway...

The game wouldnt start until lvl 80...thats marketing, I dont believe that until I see it happend.

Saving quests...the only reason you do that, is because how it is now, it doesnt work well. I dont think they give you quests at a certain lvl so you can save them up...
I never do, cause thats not the way i want to play.

Why dont you accept the fact that you speak for a small group of people that want this game to be hardcore, while most play a few houres a week and actually want to see progress?

undeadgun
12-11-2008, 06:08 AM
This isnt Asia, most ppl here are American or European and arent hardcore. It will never be like it is there...period


I smell racist.....:eek: j/k:D but seriously, you will be suprised that there REALLY are that many hardcores in US and EU.

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 06:12 AM
Yeah, but if its as TERRIBLE as is being suggested, roumen would be empty...low lvls wouldnt exist.

Its not racist btw --> cultural difference ^_^ Im not judging.

In comparison, hardcore players are outnumbered. (If 70% of the people where hardcore, they wouldnt be called hardcore, they would be the casual players. And casual players would be noobs i guess...)

dark94
12-11-2008, 07:06 AM
You can work on your leveling while having fun ._.

The thing I'm trying to say, is, by easing the leveling, you get people who will level faster and faster, easier and easier...

And now, you get to 70, and see tons of players who can't play their char... Downgrade the level of the game...

Put it simple : the easier it is, the more noobs we'll have...

There is exceptions, of course...

But the gasp you have between the first 70 levels and the 20 last (for now) is incomprehensible... And don't help the player at all...

Seems you don't really understand what "work" means ...

I'm not a child, I play to have fun not working because when my office time is over ... I don't really want to "work" for fun

The tons of players that can't play their char are only hardcore plvled players, it is not linked with having repeat quest or not.

Ryokosha
12-11-2008, 07:14 AM
1. This game is really easy to level in already, especially compared to the asian servers. What's the point in leveling fast anyways? They could make it so you can reach max level within a month, but then everyone will be bored and ask for more content and eventually quit the game because after having reached the max level they don't see any point in playing anymore. No, the way as it is now is better. You can level pretty fast up to level 49, after that it gets harder and when you get really close to the level cap it will become really hard. I think it's okay like that.

2. You should only play games that are fun for you. Playing a game that is no fun for you is just wrong...

3. If you only have fun if you level fast in a game, something must be wrong with you.

Chaola
12-11-2008, 07:17 AM
Seems you don't really understand what "work" means ...

I'm not a child, I play to have fun not working because when my office time is over ... I don't really want to "work" for fun

I'm not a child either, I play for the same reasons, to stress out my office time...

But I see a worth in having to put some efforts in the leveling I do...

Like Ryo says, if it's too easy, what is the point ?

Hemmes
12-11-2008, 07:25 AM
Okay, for me, its like this:
I dont mind if i dont lvl fast, i do mind when ive got nothing to do but kill the same kind of mobs with low reward. If they would double the amount of quests, but it would take you just as long to lvl...fine...I just want something to do and having the feeling i progress. For instance, grinding in the 2x abyss is not as bad since the drops are very nice. Then i can cope. I need the feeling that im doing more then mindless killing the same mobs over and over. Alchemy skills, KQ's, quests whatever, just give me a goal other then a tiny bit of xp and an occasional useful drop.

Its only partially about lvling. Besides, there are plenty of people who play half a year and are still lvl 50. Its not really fair to point out the people who take lvling to the extreme.

Ryokosha
12-11-2008, 07:41 AM
Having something to do is a better argument. But aren't the repeatable quests available for this?

Plus I think playing without quests in a big party is more fun than while doing quests, simply because you don't need to take care of quest drops and just can set it to "Sequential" item sharing. You just need to roleplay a bit or set your own mission. I had no problem to do something like: Get my 5-member party and say "Hey let's try to walk one complete round of the Burning Hill ring; only rule: we are not allowed to ignore any monster that follows / attacks us". It was really fun playing like that. People often aren't used to things like this, but those who knew me better in MMORPGs always called me the "Party Instructor" and always whispered to me with something like "Hey are you going to make a party today too? Can I join?".

Cloud-Strife1984
12-11-2008, 07:46 AM
Fiesta is a Grinding game not a quest game is Asia Style is normal ;oP

You need Quests play WoW is better more Quests,better grafik not laggy ;oP^^

dark94
12-11-2008, 07:50 AM
Giving you at least a repeat quest per level won't make it a lot easier than releasing a 50% EXP boost card. Don't make me laugh.

What is really stupid, is to have nothing else than grind for some level because each could choose how they want to play.

Some enjoy grind, some enjoy quest that's all.

Having a repeat quest doesn't mean that you won't provide an effort ... it will just let you avoid abyss if you forgot to stack your quests or if you have stacked too much and so miss some that can do only at a precise level.

Note that I'm speaking for the whole gameplay and not only for "low" or "high" level.

Ryokosha
12-11-2008, 07:53 AM
I agree that there should be a repeatable quest that gives 1-5% exp at every level. Isn't there?

dark94
12-11-2008, 07:55 AM
Having something to do is a better argument. But aren't the repeatable quests available for this?

Plus I think playing without quests in a big party is more fun than while doing quests, simply because you don't need to take care of quest drops and just can set it to "Sequential" item sharing. You just need to roleplay a bit or set your own mission. I had no problem to do something like: Get my 5-member party and say "Hey let's try to walk one complete round of the Burning Hill ring; only rule: we are not allowed to ignore any monster that follows / attacks us". It was really fun playing like that. People often aren't used to things like this, but those who knew me better in MMORPGs always called me the "Party Instructor" and always whispered to me with something like "Hey are you going to make a party today too? Can I join?".

umm don't we talking about having at least a repeat quest available at each level ?

It doesn't need to provide a lot of EXP.

Yeah Cloud, true, it's Korean Style ... but this version is not only a translation, it's an adaptation. We could always make suggestions.

dark94
12-11-2008, 07:58 AM
I agree that there should be a repeatable quest that gives 1-5% exp at every level. Isn't there?

No there are some levels where you can have nothing to do if you haven't stacked quest from previous level :D

And some where you have nothing to do even if you have stacked quests :(

Some players are against stacking quests ... so

IroguroMeek
12-11-2008, 08:07 AM
Here's the problem, and yes I've been playing this game for a long time and I've seen alot of changes.

I'm sure you all have heard of the old and new generation players and how everyone keeps comparing and contrasting them, and this thread points out exactly the problem. Keep in mind that I am a college student, have friends that I hang out with, and had a job so it was not like I spent all day on this game, at the very most I was on it 4 hours a day if I was lucky.

See, back them when we didn't have the luxary of cash shop and abyss along with the tons of quest that the "new generation" has, we actually worked together with other guild, we actually grinded and partied with one another and made friends, we actually spent the time to learn about our characters and the best way to use them.

You can totally tell who is an experienced player and who is an unexperienced player and for those of you who haven't noticed the influx of level 70s and 80s lately, it is getting insane. Everything has become so easy that we are getting so many unexperienced players who whine and complain even when they are level 70+ and why? Because everything was hand fed to them on a silver platter as they leveled from the lower 50s.

Heck, I've met fighters who do not even know how to tank properly and even met a lvl 76 archer who actually did not know how nature's protection worked. I've seen tons of clerics who do not know how to heal in a party of five and mages that think they can tank when their def is lower than 600.

And what gets me the most is how none of the new and upcoming level 70s do not know what "corner check" is. It is something that was developed by the older generation and has always been used for god knows how long but has ever since been lost because people would rather go into someone's room and take their mobs than showing respect. No surprise there is so much hostility and bitterness in the community now adays.

I myself never liked grinding and is probably the slowest leveler in all of fiesta, it took me nearly 5 months to get from 1-59 and 7 months to get from 60-79, it has been almost 4 months now? and I am only 85. Talk about slow leveling. If I could get to those levels being a college student and having a normal life, then I am pretty sure you all could too. Don't be so impatient, if you do not have the luxary of spending 7 hours a day on this game then that is no ones fault and the game shouldnt have to be made easier so that you and other people could become high level. No pain no gain =p

dark94
12-11-2008, 08:21 AM
Don't worry, these new players will get bored and stop playing LoL

The main beak has been to allowed from lv10 to be plvled in higher lv abyss.

Fortunaly, we can still distinguish a plvled lv70-80+ and an experienced one.

I love this funny new pala ... that don't want healing in a party cause it's boring! ROFL

I promise, I will go back on my paly after I cap my mage :D

*Hope that lv60+ players will be better than some month ago ... How an easy spider KQ can failed after only 5 mins ?? O.o*

mredlodge
12-11-2008, 10:02 AM
Wow.

Yeah, you need to find a different game if you think leveling is hard at 6x and below. "Club Penguin" sounds pretty fun, you should check it out. I know my 5 year old niece really enjoys it.

If you are out of quests and need a reason to grind or a goal, try completing a license on your weapon.



just in case, it's : clubpenguin.com (I think)

dark94
12-11-2008, 10:11 AM
O.o

wonder why you waste time to post this kind of post.

umm... no clues, really

artboi
12-11-2008, 01:45 PM
xD well if these people that cant grind quit, it will do us a favor of ridding of the people that dont know how to use their character.

i am a lvl88 cleric, been playing for a year now, if u think leveling is hard, try leveling a cleric, the slowest killing character, bounded to party most of the time if you do not know how to make a good build for it. i encountered myself with a lvl8x archer that didnt use any freaking aoe skills, she was attacking a single mob >_> an archer with me mobing like 10 to 15 mobs she only single hitted them, so yea, be gone you noobs.

Celtic_Princess
12-11-2008, 02:08 PM
Leveling, especially starting in the 50s is not supposed to be easy. 59 seemed like it took forever for me on my paladin. Its really not that hard. In my mid 40s I grabbed a few (same level) friends, stocked up on t3 scrolls and grinded in AEW for hours on end. I leveled up fast that way...

At 59 I offered to heal for people higher than me, or I grabbed friends of the same level, stocked up on stil more T3s and grinded in FoS for hours on end. hitting 60 and going through your second job change is supposed to be an accomplishment. Not a given.

Besides, why rush through your levels only to have nothing to do at 89??

autarchaurzel
12-11-2008, 02:20 PM
lets see here, people want more quests and more exp ... why dont we just make repeat quests for every level ... then people will complain they dont give enough exp, lets make the repeats give 10% of the required exp ... still not enough? how about 50% ... nope? lets make it a free level up per quests ... whats that i hear? ... you're too lazy to go do that 1 quest ... why dont we just put a button that every time you click it you level up ... cant be bothered to press the button ... why dont we just start every player off capped ... you're bored? ... then you should have accepted how easy things were to start off with
/ends rant

Hemmes
12-12-2008, 02:37 AM
Celtic you stated that you lvled up fast when you grinded for houres in AEW. Thats the point. A lot of people here dont want to grind the same stuff for houres.

Autarchaurzel: thats bogus, you know it...

And i fully agree with Dark. You really think that its the quests that will get you noobish 7x players??? Or maybe its all the SC items and plvling. Cause you can complain you can get 60 in a week all you want, but without SC or plvling...good luck. Ive been playing for months and my highest lvl is 53. Im not slow! I just play a few houres a week.

Repeatable quests are the reason for high lvl noobs...rrrright.
Remove all the buff SC, blessings of Teva and exp boosts and we'll see how much noobs there will be at 7x...

autarchaurzel
12-12-2008, 02:42 AM
its an extreme example but thats how things are headin at this rate

Chaola
12-12-2008, 02:49 AM
Repeatable quests are the reason for high lvl noobs...rrrright.
Remove all the buff SC, blessings of Teva and exp boosts and we'll see how much noobs there will be at 7x...

Oh my, that's my Fiesta dream ._.

Hemmes
12-12-2008, 02:49 AM
its an extreme example but thats how things are headin at this rateI dont think thats what the OP means and its not what i am after either. I want to be able to be proud of what ive done. We want something to do, not instant lvl 89 powa. Ill go back to diablo 2 when i want to be lvl 90 in a day...


Chaola: haha yes, quite a dream.

autarchaurzel
12-12-2008, 02:58 AM
woot to diablo 2, maybe i'll go back to it too