View Full Version : Best Soloer?
spart5
12-10-2008, 09:04 PM
Mage or Archer? who's the better soloer?
chayok
12-10-2008, 09:10 PM
I vote archer..
YoshimaruOrona
12-10-2008, 09:12 PM
Meh, it's up for discussion.
Not taking the actual skill of a player into consideration, I'd say archers were better. However, a crappy archer could be a godly mage, so I dunno.
In general, I'd have to give it to archers though. More hp/sp stones to carry around, more def per lv up, and since there's not as many in total (compared to mages), you don't have to struggle as much to find decent gears. Mages are either screwed with bad gear, or have to outbuy one another to get good stuff.
This is what I've noticed at the higher levels anyway. I'm not 100% sure how this applies to the lower levels (lv60-)
chayok
12-10-2008, 09:18 PM
While having more stones, archers can kite making them last longer than mage.
Hobo147
12-10-2008, 09:20 PM
archers by far, us mages are best with a fighter duo, archers are great at kiting and way more stones makes their soloing ability superiors to mages, however if youre a squishy archer, then iunno but most 8x archers i know are great soloers :3
Erbian
12-10-2008, 09:31 PM
archers.... mages are weak... unless with a party...
hopeloveisbs
12-10-2008, 10:11 PM
CHAYOK!!!! i love your Signature!!!
saueracker
12-10-2008, 10:22 PM
Archer!!!I prefer to solo using an archer instead of a mage.
Zh0ngGu0ZhiZa0
12-10-2008, 11:19 PM
the fact that archers can run and aoe at the same time puts them ahead of mages in terms of soloing, since the archer takes minimal dmg. lvl 51 archers with mist are impressive soloers, ive seen 5x archers kite entire rooms of mobs. mages, however, though they have nova, cannot in most cases just stand and take all that dmg while waiting for nova to kill.
Roseanna
12-11-2008, 01:18 AM
Yeah, my mage CAN solo... kinda... but at level 86, I can only carry 72 hp stones, so it doesn't matter much. Combined with my squishiness (even with +9 level 70 top/78 pants and a +6 76 helm... and some end stats on my gear... and t4 vit/def scrolls) I'm lucky if I get 1/4 of a quest done before it's back to Uru and then back to BR.
My archer I haven't played much recently, soloing sucks if you stand there and take the hits. I die when I try to kite. But I imagine it'll just take some gear tweaking and practice, once I get it down right I think it'll go much better than my mage. We'll see. :p
SweaterMittens
12-11-2008, 04:05 AM
lol...archers no doubt.
Hemmes
12-11-2008, 04:08 AM
I voted mages:eek:
*RUNS AWAY FROM THIS THREAD ASAP*
KiSsGod
12-11-2008, 05:20 AM
After playing a mage and an archer i think fighter is the best solo in the game xD. But if i had to choose from mage or archer i would probably pick archer. They have better defense and can survive the longest.
DF001
12-11-2008, 05:24 AM
Archers. I made 13g in abyss on 3 days with my archer, when he was 5x.
undeadgun
12-11-2008, 05:26 AM
DoT>Nova+Inferno
Spankle
12-11-2008, 05:51 AM
Archer DoTs dont do as much damage as nova+inferno though, which is what I think is the most important factor...
1-67 archers, 67+ I'm gonna say mages, yeah ino im probably biased BUT u can solve the stones thing by using hp pots...in roa i use an average of about 2 hp pots per mob and pick up about the same from drops, so u end up being sustainable without stones. Im pretty sure an archer couldnt kill a room of mobs in abyss in the 5 seconds it takes mages...on the other hand i hear archers are good in BR for their agro ability because of the way the mobs are up there, so i think place is a factor in solo ability too...
undeadgun
12-11-2008, 05:58 AM
Archer DoTs dont do as much damage as nova+inferno though, which is what I think is the most important factor...
True, however, mage cant cast Nova+inferno while moving. Archers can apply DoTs and AoE without being touched. And this brings up the point of soloing, the survivablity in between these two classes.
Though i do strongly agree about the place factor:)
Spankle
12-11-2008, 06:18 AM
True, however, mage cant cast Nova+inferno while moving. Archers can apply DoTs and AoE without being touched. And this brings up the point of soloing, the survivablity in between these two classes.
Yeah, well ino a mage without +9s wouldnt near be able to do what one with +9s can with survivability. On an all +0 basis yea archers 0-89 better than mages, i should make that point. I think once you get past a certain defense tho you reach a bit of a 'ceiling' and the mobs attack isnt your concern its the damage you do. So thats why i say mages, based on full +9ed characters, ie their full potential not an average player.
Cloud-Strife1984
12-11-2008, 07:50 AM
Archer isbetter you can run and attack
Mage not -.-
SweaterMittens
12-11-2008, 08:10 AM
Lol give an archer a t3speed scroll and the archer 51+ can kite mobs and mobs killing about 2x -3x more then the mage can handle even with +9's
mredlodge
12-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Eclectic, I seen you flat on your face in the spade room....LOL
missed a pot, didin't you?
badfury
12-11-2008, 08:10 PM
i vote for archer becasue they can kit and mage cant. XD
benevolent_slayer
12-11-2008, 09:42 PM
this thread is the reason I do not see why archers say they are underpowered:
Archers can poison AOE, AOE and use a few other skills while running, enabling them to solo AOE, and level fast solo -whereas mages of equivellant level have to attack 1 enemy at a time alone or use massive pots/stones (which they run out of in about 15 minutes)