View Full Version : Making the abyss fairer?
ninja_frogz
12-12-2008, 06:44 PM
Maybe it should b made that u can only do 1 on 1 in the abyss?
It would b fairer and would give lower lvls a chance of escaping from higher lvls.
Or
Maybe it should b made that u can only fight other players around the same lvl?
I don't know how difficult this would b, but I think something needs to b done 2 make the abyss more fair.
Yes, u could just say don't go there but every player should hav the same opportunity for good xp without the unfaireness of getting pt mobbed or attacked by higher lvls.
This is just my opinion, wat is urs?
MelvinUnderBelly
12-12-2008, 06:54 PM
abyss only is rilly dangerous when you go outta your own abyss, a lvl 50 ina lvl 70 abyss is like a bunny in a dogpen.
ninja_frogz
12-12-2008, 06:57 PM
I know wat u mean but....what about being pt mobbed? 1 vs lets say 5 is a little unfair?
mutedmuse
12-12-2008, 07:13 PM
well i can take on up to 5 equal lvl characters with my cleric spam healing, and i can kill them for the most part. so getting pt mob in abyss although hard is not impossible to survive. getting attacked my higher lvls is way worse cause they hit harder and take more damage. I think abyss should go back to having caps on who can go in.
zerozone01
12-12-2008, 08:10 PM
all they need to do is put the lemits back on aybss 20-29 30-39 ect....
sarah_c
12-12-2008, 09:31 PM
I think i know the why they change the level restriction
High lvls can get inside and kill u
The only way to not be killed and fight back is charm xD
is GOOD for outspark but poor us x.x
mutedmuse
12-12-2008, 09:38 PM
now that is just silly. i find more people dont want to play since they are getting killed by high lvls. Although i am sure you are some how right about that.
hikaichi
12-12-2008, 10:19 PM
i really agree with level restrictions being put back on =/ it just makes things worse for some people. especially the non sc people D:.
linseyc
12-12-2008, 10:21 PM
O.o I go into 70 abyss alot.
Almost everytime i go in their, its like a war at the gate. Mostly their is one guild that does this all the time, but if they are not around then no one gets killed.
Another thing is that if you are aoeing in a room oyu have, then they will hunt you down and kill you. Theirs one room in their people fight over.
*wink* *wink* I just dont pay attention to anything really, but thats all that they do to me. >.>
Ps- Merry Christmas everyone xD
ninja_frogz
12-12-2008, 11:06 PM
all they need to do is put the lemits back on aybss 20-29 30-39 ect....
I like that idea a lot, hi5 for u :)
Some of u r probably thinking that I am complaining coz I am being killed by lots of ppl or higher lvls. Not tru :D I'm just getting tired of hearing other ppls complaints...so I'm joining in yay
The old abyss was great
Andromeda
12-13-2008, 04:33 AM
The only 2 things that need changing in the abyss are the level limits back to what they were before and remove the exp loss you get when you are killed by another player. I'm all for keeping the PvP element in the abyss that alone should be fair enough for both sides that like grinding and PvPing. But when they Abyss favours the PvP side more than the grind side it unbalances the Abyss.
The Abyss is a 50/50 area Half Grind and Half PvP. I'd much rather be ambushed by a Lv 59 player than a Lv 66 player when I enter Passage of Abyss. At least then I stand some sort of chance to defend myself. I'm not saying you cant win in this situation but there are some people who arent completely PvP competent like myself. Which is why I'd much rather fight someone around my level range than someone who could be up to 16 levels higher than me.
Lets be honest is it right for a Lv 5x player to enter PoA to be greeted by a Lv 66 fighter ready to ambush them as soon as they enter. They pretty have almost no chance of winning unless they are completely charmed and scrolled or they have to resort to creating a party of 3-4 people to take out the fighter which shouldn't be needed as its unfair for the fighter and it wasnt fair to begin with.
Not only that I was asked for a party by a Lv 20 archer earlier today I knew he wouldnt get exp though but he insisted I party him in an area with enemies that are over 27 levels above him so he wouldnt have gotten exp in the first place. So I chose to ignore him and shroom in my mushroom and when he figured out I was ignoring him he started attacking me until he gave up because he was missing me so much and could barely damage me so he went off to pester someone else in another Abyss.
So in conclusion the PvP element is enjoyable but when you are ambushed by someone at least 6 levels above you using a better weapon/armour etc you are pretty much forced to retreat EVEN if you entered the abyss intending to PvP with people around the same level range as you. So even the fair PvPers are forced to avoid entering their level range abyss or they resort to pretty much spawn killing in the abyss below their level range (So this drains the fun out of the abyss for both the grinders and the PvPers ultimately) This also makes it more fair for the people who had to do power level the old fashion way and grind in their level range Abyss instead of seeing Lv 30s grinding in Passage of Abyss
dreico
12-17-2008, 09:45 AM
well, i always tought abyss suks for exp... i think dungeone gives u more!(of course after doin ur quests) abyss only good to get drops...
dreico
12-17-2008, 09:47 AM
anyways im out of skool and i usually don't read tht much... so keep it short Andromeda
:p (hope u don't take it in a bad way...) tht be pretty good essay
fredlsp
12-19-2008, 02:50 AM
i like this abssy now...coz i also hav low lv char. sometimes i also get killed by pt. they ask me move. if not, they will start attack me..so they let me hav chance to switch my high lv char to kill them all. XD...so make more fun ..XD
so if limit abssy for lv entering..i wont nvr get revenge, only get killed by players with pt. it still fair for some player. mayb u can ask ur guild to protect for a while when some1 try to kill u
maxx_perfect
12-19-2008, 03:48 AM
You've got to remember that Outspark is a business.
Using the example of the level 20 abyss, there's almost always a level 3x in there killing anyone who walks through the gate. Outspark knows full well that people would do this, and even promoted it by initiating the kill points system and leaderboards.
A way to avoid being killed is to charm, extend and to use a magic potion, so in the end people buy lots of them, I know my brother is ALWAYS buying magic potions so I know for a fact that what they're doing has actually reeled in more money for them.
On the other hand, it does ruin the game a bit for people who are new to the game, as well as non Sparkcash users who simply can't defend themselves well enough. But at the end of the day the abyss is not the only place to level, so if you can't stand up for yourself in the abyss simply don't go there.
Sorry to say, but I doubt Outspark will change the limits back for the sake of non-Sparkcash players because Outspark receive nothing from them so probably wouldn't give a monkeys if they quit....
Flibbe
12-19-2008, 08:20 AM
^_^ Perhaps the only thing that will change anything is a mass boy-cot.
palmfruits
12-19-2008, 02:02 PM
i like this abssy now...coz i also hav low lv char. sometimes i also get killed by pt. they ask me move. if not, they will start attack me..so they let me hav chance to switch my high lv char to kill them all. XD...so make more fun ..XD
so if limit abssy for lv entering..i wont nvr get revenge, only get killed by players with pt. it still fair for some player. mayb u can ask ur guild to protect for a while when some1 try to kill u
I'd feel awkward asking someone from my academy or even someone in the guild to help.
I think partying works the best. It's best to make a party beforehand and hope that the people you're partied with don't end up quitting your aprty and killing you in the end x__X
Dthugtherealist
12-19-2008, 10:48 PM
The Non SC players effect the game structure too not everyone that plays fiesta is a lvling junky take this for example your best friend on this game doesn't use SC but he's getting bullied in abyss so he quits and you miss him/her and you start to hate the game so you quit. I guarantee for every SC user there is a few friend that don't have that bonus so if for every SC player there are friends that are dear an don't have that. Fiesta would not have 2 million players if it wasn't for the more than a million I think who don't use SC.