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borednl
12-23-2008, 02:07 AM
Edit: This page can be used as an easy reference by using the following link:: http://tinyurl.com/EpithPKK

There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to.

And so.. I'm creating this thread.

For you PKK'ers out there who are willing to join forces and help, list your IGN, class, level, and specialty here so that you can be called upon when PK'ers run amok in the various abysses.

Tell your friends, guild members, academy members, or whomever about this thread so PK'ers will have a run for their money. :)

To sign up use the format of the following example (this is for 2 characters, list them separately so the list can be sorted by level):

IGN(s): BoredNL / Bringer_of_Death
Class: Mage
Level: 75
Specialty: PVP/AOE mank (1.3k DEF w/cleric) + Full Intellect Blues, Can keep someone feared for 17.5 seconds
Note: I vendor often, so if I don't respond, sorry but I'm not there. :)

IGN: Bringer_of_Death / BoredNL
Class: Fighter
Level: 48
Specialty: STR/END Tank (1.1k DEF w/cleric - I can survive attacks from 6x fighters indefinitely)

To make it clear what a PK'er, PKK'er, and PVP'ers are, I will define them here. I will also issue a suggested protocol for PKK'ers to follow here.

PK'er: A character who goes to abyss just to kill other players. Usually they use words like "nub" a lot, are fighters wielding axes, and only attack people in abyss that is 10 levels below them.
Note: Some of these people are not mean-spirited and will not spawn kill endlessly, but some will. Either way, if they attack you unprovoked, kill you in abyss and you want them dead, then this thread is for you.

PKK'er: A character who will go to abyss sometimes just to kill PK'ers. Sometimes they will sit in abyss guarding the entrance. The moment they see a PK'er attack someone randomly, they attack the PK'er. We also make ourselves available to other players who need help. A PKK'er might not be a PKK for noble reasons. Maybe they are just looking for a challenge and they see PK'ers as a challenge. Most PKK'ers however, like myself, do it to help other players.

PVP'er: A person who battles in the Battle Zones often and sometimes challenges others to 1v1 duels in abyss. This person doesn't have to be a PK or PKK'er. They don't fight unless the other person or party has agreed to the fight.

Protocol: Don't let yourself be duped. When called on to help, make sure you are actually killing a PK'er before doing so, otherwise you are actually being a PK'er. It is up to you who you decide to help though. PKK'ing is not about helping level 4x people grind in level 6x abyss, it's about righting wrongs. If you feel that a level 4x has no place in level 6x abyss, then don't help one who has been PK'ed there. It's up to you how and who you want to help.

Note: I am from Apoline and cannot help on your server, but I still continue on playing for some time to come and will update this thread often. :) Here are links to the other server PKK threads: Apoline (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581) Bijou (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137016) Teva (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134874)

borednl
12-23-2008, 02:07 AM
Defenders of Abyss (39 characters):

IGN(s): Orona_Kun / Orona_Neechan / Orona / Orona_Sensei
Class: Cleric
Level: 89
Specialty: Complete support (lacking a much needed +9 shield though >.<) cleric. Basic heals for 2700 hp and rejuvenates for 4350 hp. If I can safely equip my blue boots (results in a loss of 15 def and 155 hp for me), I can rejuv for 5075 hp. Also good for t4 buffing any pkkers who need it in any of the non-8x abysses.

IGN(s): Look
Level: 89
Class: Fighter
Specialty: If pkk the pk'er is not enough, i can war his guild too.
Note: I vendor often, so if I don't respond, sorry but I'm not there.

IGN(s): Painfull / Hurtfull / Dreadfull / AntiHurtfull
Class: Fighter
Level: 88 (refuse to cap)
Specialty: End build fighter (not pure anymore but will be again soon enough), maxes at 9.5k fully buffed with a cleric blue-set buff (9.1k usually) but without my wife in pt. No +9 boots or hat, but 2.6k with cleric in pt (2k without).
Note: I spend a lot fo time in the new dungeon (Dragon's Tomb) and in the forums working on my guide.

IGN(s): Busterinabox / Busterinabox__
Level: 85
Class: Mage
Specialty: 25xx mdmg ^^

IGN(s): BadBoy_Killa / _Peaches_ / IMSuperWoman / Critical_Magic
Level: 83
Class: Battle Warrior
Note: I despise PKER's

IGN(s): Gan_G_Res
Level: 82
Class: Mage
Specialty: Full Int, everything except for hat +9
Note: I vendor often too

IGN(s): LordHatred / LordVengeance
Level: 81
Class: Fighter

IGN(s): wesleyD
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: Tank over 8k hp... can do damage with my +9 80 axe ^.... maxed out dev ph slice and dice working on WW ....last but not least i can use my army of taters to kill muahahaha
Note: I am the master of Endless_Fruy

IGN(s): Metalfyre
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: I keell fast xD
Note: I have alts specifically for PKK'ing in 2x and 5x abyss. I won't list them here, but if you can get me on my fighter I should be able to help ;)

IGN(s): ImPerfection_
Level: 77 and going!
Specialty: Full STR and full +9 Godly STR/END gears
Note: very active IG, rarely ever AFK, always up for a little help in our community.

IGN(s): Haplon
Level: 73
Class: Fighter
Specialty: Being easy to kill a.k.a. Being a diversion. May not be able to kill a pk but if there happens to be one to many for one pkker I can always distract one or two.

IGN(s): Ailena
Class: Mage
Level: 72
Specialty: 33% crit, up to 2,300 m.dmg, +4.5k HP

IGN(s): Godess_Of_Love
Level: 71
Class: Paladin
Specialty: 1522~1679+576 also healing is 1400 +700 and i can invinc...IM JUST A CLERIC D: i dont do much.. xD

IGN(s): Uyoku
Level: 7x soon to be 8x
Class: Cleric
Specialty: I'm pretty much useless right now, just wait til i'm 85. xD Max power/cool on Heal, Max power on Rejuve, working on cooldown.
Note by BoredNL: No cleric is ever useless! Clerics rock! :P

IGN(s): Vicious / Gothic_Lolita / Sweet_Lolita
Level: 70
Class: DD Fighter
Specialty: Damage (STR/Dex)
Note: I don't kill people who fight those are that pvping people in their level range, only those that are teaming up against someone, or people above the suggested abyss lvl (i.e. a lvl 66 in lvl 50 abyss). I also do not help people who enter and are not in that lvl range (ie a lvl 30 in lvl 50 abyss) since they should know better.

IGN(s): Sapphire_ / Saphire_
Level: 7X
Class: Mage
Specialty: PVP/AOE, Full Int +9 Blues, Can keep someone feared for 24 seconds

IGN(s): ryan52 / ryan52isback / justdiealready / ryan_52
Level: 6X soon 7X
Class: archer
Specialty: much hp and def

IGN(s): LordVengeance / LordHatred
Level: 69
Class: Mage

IGN(s): MPCking
Level: 86
Class:Archer
Specialty: I can balance a twinkie on my nose..No qualms about killing a PK'er and hearing em scream...^^

IGN(s): xJenovaX / BadBoy_Killa / _Peaches_ / Critical_Magic
Class: Scout
Level: 67

IGN(s): Orona_Neechan / Orona_Kun / Orona / Orona_Sensei
Class: Archer
Level: 66 (Leveling him atm, so this number will be changing every day or so)
Specialty: None in particular. He's 25 spr, rest end, so he has an abnormally high hp for most archers (2.6k unbuffed atm). Good for dealing with fighters (provided I have cleric support, or I'll eventually be overpowered, even with buffs).

IGN(s): RyanDaHero
Level:66
Class: Paladin
Specialty: I cant try to talk them out of pk'ing while casting invincible to the he/she who just got pk'ed so they can escape

IGN(s): Gigee
Class: Scout Archer
Level: 65
Specialty: I am a DD ~ +25 SPR and the rest on STR, +9 lvl 60 Bow and etc.
Note: I am focusing on my main right now and ask my guildies, I drop anything to help out friends... I love helping people out so just let me know and if ya can't, that is fine too =D

IGN(s): destroyer33 / gaara2258
Level:63
Class:warrior
Specialty:i got 5k hp with scrolls and can kill people 10 lvl s higher thn me
Note:any PK'er who PK's on my mage will die a harsh death with no mercy

IGN(s): Hurtfull / Painfull / AntiHurtfull / Dreadfull
Class: Mage
Level: 62
Specialty: DD build (int/spr), super super squishy, but massive damage.
Note: My +9 wand is on loan atm.

IGN(s): Saphire_ / Sapphire_
Class: Fighter
Level: 6X
Specialty: STR DD fighter

IGN(s): Gothic_Lolita / Vicious / Sweet_Lolita
Level: 6x
Class: Mage
Specialty: Buying time/Damage (Full int, End gears, max CD on fear, max damage on skills)
Note: I don't kill people who fight those are that pvping people in their level range, only those that are teaming up against someone, or people above the suggested abyss lvl (i.e. a lvl 66 in lvl 50 abyss). I also do not help people who enter and are not in that lvl range (ie a lvl 30 in lvl 50 abyss) since they should know better.

IGN(s): Distyn
Class: Fighter
Level: 56 (Can go into 40)
Specialty: Hit em hard, hit em fast.
Note: Who ya gonna call?

IGN(s): _Peaches_ / BadBoy_Killa / IMSuperWoman / Critical_Magic
Level: 55
Class: Fighter
Note: I despise PKER's

IGN(s): Sweet_Lolita Vicious / Gothic_Lolita
Level: 5x
Class: cleric
Specialty: Full support (END/SPR), extenders, spam healer.
Note: I don't kill people who fight those are that pvping people in their level range, only those that are teaming up against someone, or people above the suggested abyss lvl (i.e. a lvl 66 in lvl 50 abyss). I also do not help people who enter and are not in that lvl range (ie a lvl 30 in lvl 50 abyss) since they should know better.

IGN(s): bobweirdy
Level: 50
Class: cleric
specialty: umm.... i do a TON of dmg and have no str at all... no idea how but im 20 spr 10 dex (yeah i thought dex was def when i was noob ^^) 20 end 5 str (trying to remove the str and dex but i dont wanna waste my SC on skill reset scrolls) so im pretty widespread when it comes to specialtys ^^

IGN(s): DDExplosion_Ex
Level:50
Class:Clever Fighter
Specialty: Uhhhhh i can kill the pk'ers ^^ end/str hybrid i can hold them off while the pk'ed ppl get out of abyss. i cant talk them out of it tho

IGN(s): Busterinabox__ / Busterinabox
Level: 50
Class: Fighter
Specialty: 1.5k def and 5k hp :D

IGN(s): TheSandman
Class: Clever Fighter
Level: 47
Specialty: Damage. I am a Damage Dealer, although my health sucks(shhh).
Note: I PKK people who act like nubs and spam kill characters in abyss. I also like to kill PKer's that use scrolls. I hate people who hide behind scrolls. Especially lower levels that hide behind tier3's. Please, if your going to fight someone make it fair and use your true power not some stupid scrolls that buff you up. Real buffs don't count =/

IGN(s): ryan52isback / ryan52 / justdiealready / ryan_52
Level: 45
Class: fighter
Specialty: able to take and deal dmg

IGN(s): Orona / Orona_Kun / Orona_Neechan / Orona_Sensei
Class: Fighter
Level: 44
Specialty: Tank build. 2.1k hp and 402 def unbuffed with axe equipped. 2k hp and 491 def unbuffed with 1h/shield equipped. (1h/shield form has more potential; atm, I only have a lv30 +9 white 1h and lv30 +8 green shield in my possession)

IGN(s): IMSuperWoman / BadBoy_Killa / _Peaches_ / Critical_Magic
Level: 44
Class: Cleric
Note: I despise PKER's

IGN(s): Critical_Magic / BadBoy_Killa / _Peaches_ / IMSuperWoman
Level: 44
Class: Mage
Note: I despise PKER's

IGN(s): Carsow
Type: Mage
Level: 33
Specialty: 35% crit rate, using all armor green, +5 perm pet, roumen necklace, and godly gearings
Note: 255 Kill Points (all of which came from killing pkers)

IGN(s): HonoR_Enchanter
Class: Mage
Level: 33 =.=
Specialty: lot of dmg and critical can kill fighter of my own lvl and a bit higer sometimes
note: spend time talking:p

IGN(s): justdiealready / ryan52 / ryan52isback / ryan_52
Level: 31
Class: mage
Specialty: pure int with end gears

IGN(s): ryan_52 / ryan52 / ryan52isback / justdiealready
Level: 31
Class: cleric
Specialty: spam healing

IGN(s): Motoko_Kusunagi
Level: 30(shhh)
Class: Fighter
Specialty: 1.7k hp with a T1 vit and buff...nuff said

shane3x
12-23-2008, 02:22 AM
This is a great idea, good luck with it. Should be fully supported. Although OS may get a bit worried that peace may return to the abyss (with that sales of SC will drop slightly).

borednl
12-23-2008, 12:51 PM
This is a great idea, good luck with it. Should be fully supported. Although OS may get a bit worried that peace may return to the abyss (with that sales of SC will drop slightly).

There's been a lot of support on Apoline and Teva (especially my home server Apoline, check out the list (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581))

I just created the threads of Bijou and Epith, but Bijou has had people instantly start signing up.

If you want to show some love and represent your server, be the first to sign up your characters! Support the PKK cause to reduce harassment in abyss. :)

ilovepink
12-23-2008, 01:23 PM
Edit: This page can be used as an easy reference by using the following link:: http://tinyurl.com/EpithPKK

There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to.

And so.. I'm creating this thread.

For you PKK'ers out there who are willing to join forces and help, list your IGN, class, level, and specialty here so that you can be called upon when PK'ers run amok in the various abysses.

Tell your friends, guild members, academy members, or whomever about this thread so PK'ers will have a run for their money. :)

To sign up use the format of the following example (this is for 2 characters, list them separately so the list can be sorted by level):



To make it clear what a PK'er, PKK'er, and PVP'ers are, I will define them here. I will also issue a suggested protocol for PKK'ers to follow here.

PK'er: A character who goes to abyss just to kill other players. Usually they use words like "nub" a lot, are fighters wielding axes, and only attack people in abyss that is 10 levels below them.
Note: Some of these people are not mean-spirited and will not spawn kill endlessly, but some will. Either way, if they attack you unprovoked, kill you in abyss and you want them dead, then this thread is for you.

PKK'er: A character who will go to abyss sometimes just to kill PK'ers. Sometimes they will sit in abyss guarding the entrance. The moment they see a PK'er attack someone randomly, they attack the PK'er. We also make ourselves available to other players who need help. A PKK'er might not be a PKK for noble reasons. Maybe they are just looking for a challenge and they see PK'ers as a challenge. Most PKK'ers however, like myself, do it to help other players.

PVP'er: A person who battles in the Battle Zones often and sometimes challenges others to 1v1 duels in abyss. This person doesn't have to be a PK or PKK'er. They don't fight unless the other person or party has agreed to the fight.

Protocol: Don't let yourself be duped. When called on to help, make sure you are actually killing a PK'er before doing so, otherwise you are actually being a PK'er. It is up to you who you decide to help though. PKK'ing is not about helping level 4x people grind in level 6x abyss, it's about righting wrongs. If you feel that a level 4x has no place in level 6x abyss, then don't help one who has been PK'ed there. It's up to you how and who you want to help.

Note: I am from Apoline and cannot help on your server, but because of the success I've had there I decided to create threads here and on Bijou. Here are links to the other server PKK threads: Apoline (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581) Bijou (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135228) Teva (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133489)


Ill join

IGN:Godess_Of_Love
Class:Paladin
Lvl:71
Specialty: 1522~1679+576 also healing is 1400 +700 and i can invinc...IM JUST A CLERIC D: i dont do much.. xD

DF001
12-23-2008, 02:00 PM
Ill join

IGN:Godess_Of_Love
Class:Paladin
Lvl:71
Specialty: I dont really have one lol^^ but i like my bash and i can talk to them if thats one O-o

=/ Ironic.

ilovepink
12-23-2008, 04:26 PM
hahaha ^^ Im a nub >;3

Sockrawteez
12-23-2008, 04:48 PM
IGN:Motoko_Kusunagi
Class:figher
Lvl:30(shhh)
Specialty: 1.7k hp with a T1 vit and buff...nuff said

ilovepink
12-23-2008, 04:57 PM
IGN:Motoko_Kusunagi
Class:figher
Lvl:30(shhh)
Specialty: 1.7k hp with a T1 vit and buff...nuff said

roflmao sock <3

Sockrawteez
12-23-2008, 05:04 PM
roflmao sock <3

worst part is, i know i miss spelled my ign....

ilovepink
12-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Roflmao =x its ok xD

AhLook
12-23-2008, 11:08 PM
IGN(s): Look
Class: Fighter
Level: 89
Specialty: If pkk the pk'er is not enough, i can war his guild too.
Note: I vendor often, so if I don't respond, sorry but I'm not there.

Lord_Gan
12-23-2008, 11:22 PM
IGN(s): Gan_G_Res
Class: Mage
Level: 82
Specialty: Full Int, everything except for hat +9
Note: I vendor often too

borednl
12-24-2008, 04:58 AM
IGN:Motoko_Kusunagi
Class:figher
Lvl:30(shhh)
Specialty: 1.7k hp with a T1 vit and buff...nuff said

IGN(s): Gan_G_Res
Class: Mage
Level: 82
Specialty: Full Int, everything except for hat +9
Note: I vendor often too

IGN(s): Look
Class: Fighter
Level: 89
Specialty: If pkk the pk'er is not enough, i can war his guild too.
Note: I vendor often, so if I don't respond, sorry but I'm not there.

Added, added, and added!

Nice turnout and support so far! Keep em coming. :)

DF001
12-24-2008, 05:15 AM
Bored should post his epic story here.

blackmagic95
12-24-2008, 09:30 AM
IGN(s): Busterinabox
Class: Mage
Level: 88
Specialty: 25xx mdmg ^^


IGN(s): Busterinabox__
Class: Fighter
Level: 50
Specialty: 1.5k def and 5k hp :D

Haplon
12-24-2008, 09:34 AM
IGN: Haplon
Class: Fighter
Level: 73
Specialty: Being easy to kill a.k.a. Being a diversion. May not be able to kill a pk but if there happens to be one to many for one pkker I can always distract one or two.

Ballantin
12-24-2008, 10:34 AM
I will join too. I hate PK'ers... they dont let other ones level and enjoy the game. I also used to help ppl i dont know in abyss :)

IGN(s): Ailena
Class: Mage
Level: 60 now
Specialty: 3500+ HP, about 4200 with buff... good def, high crit rate and mdmg :)


Edit --> lvl 65 and raising it ^_^

elisagiven
12-24-2008, 10:46 AM
Sign me up!!!;)
BadBoy_Killa 83 Battle Warrior
_Peaches_ 55 Fighter
IMSuperWoman 44 Cleric
Critical_Magic 44 Mage
I dispise PKER's
Epith
Unpatch Kill Points they pit citizens against one another:(

borednl
12-24-2008, 04:00 PM
Phew, ok I added everyone.

I'll share a PKK'ing story of mine here as well, since it went over well on the Apoline PKK thread. :)

Last night while I was power leveling a guildie (lvl48 cleric) in 6x abyss, I had a fighter run up to to me and say "follow me." I told the guildie I was with to wait at the entrance. I had no idea what was going on, so I just followed the person, since I've seen him around before. Along the way he tells me that he wants me to come kill someone before his party tried and died. I followed and was going to ask "um? What's going on?"

But then I walk into a room and suddenly this 7x fighter devastates me, a 6x fighter follows suit and a 6x mage starts attacking too. I was by myself.

I survived the first stun and started heading in the opposite direction. I asked why they were attacking me. They told me "You're a PKK'er" while chasing me. They kept triple teaming me, and got a good 6 or 7 stuns and 2 fears in before I was able to break away and throw a speed scroll on. They said, "what are you going to do, kill us? haha" as they chased after me. I said "yes, but not alone of course."

I go to FP and whisper a cleric I knew, who came immediately to help. I remove the low level guildie from the party and return to 6x abyss with the cleric to 2v3 them.

I intended to put them to shame.

So we return to where they were. I ran into the middle of their party, nova'ed and infernoed, killing a cleric they had randomly partied (who had no idea what was going on. I power leveled her after everything to make back the EXP she lost and then some). I killed one of the 6x fighters. The 7x fighter took off running, using T3 hp and hp regen pots (a scared PK'er I guess). I chased him for a bit, but then turned around and returned to kill the mage. The mage was nowhere to be found (my guess is he ran for the hills).

Then they came back with another 6x axe fighter. The cleric in their party didn't want any part of what was going on. She just sat at the entrance after spawning. The mage had just disappeared by this point. So it was 3 axe fighters vs a mage and a cleric. We start battling. I fear two fighters, then start laying into one of the fighters (who pots). Around the time both fighters come out of fear and one of the fighters lands a successful stun on me, I notice that my cleric is not healing. After 40 seconds of battle, they kill us. My cleric informs me in party chat that he was skill bugged and could not heal. Drat, gotta love those fiesta bugs..

The fighters whisper me with "ha ha, what are you going to do now?" I reply, "Kill you of course, my cleric was skill bugged and could not heal. I'm coming for you now." A 6x mage I knew randomly showed up, so I party him. We return. They see my cleric heal me and you know what they did? All 3 axe fighters took off running, potting the whole way back to the entrance. As they ran like little rats, they shouted "you're charmed! you suck!" and other insults at me. (I've never charmed)

I caught a screenshot as the last one left. Check it out:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z237/BoredNL/fiestapkk/12-24-20086xmage6xfighterand7xfight.jpg
(I photoshopped out the names)


This is just one example of the PK'ers I've fought in abyss and how they fight. They have no dignity and fight without honor. I have yet to come across one PK'er that would actually stay to fight a fair fight. Whenever they meet a challenge, they wimp out and run. When they team up on someone, they act like they are somehow superior.

So for those of you who think PKK'ers are the same as PK'ers, you are completely and utterly wrong.

If you are a PKK'er, keep fighting the good fight. Happy holidays. :)

borednl
12-25-2008, 04:59 AM
Side note here: I'm impressed by the respect those of you from Epith have shown so far. There's been no bickering arguments or attempts to derail this thread, only a show of hands in support.

Maybe I'll check out your server in the future when I make another alt. :)

DF001
12-25-2008, 04:59 AM
Bored, you should erase the name of that guild because there are actually only 3 persons on that guild..

AhLook
12-26-2008, 01:36 AM
Phew, ok I added everyone.

I'll share a PKK'ing story of mine here as well, since it went over well on the Apoline PKK thread. :)

Last night while I was power leveling a guildie (lvl48 cleric) in 6x abyss, I had a fighter run up to to me and say "follow me." I told the guildie I was with to wait at the entrance. I had no idea what was going on, so I just followed the person, since I've seen him around before. Along the way he tells me that he wants me to come kill someone before his party tried and died. I followed and was going to ask "um? What's going on?"

But then I walk into a room and suddenly this 7x fighter devastates me, a 6x fighter follows suit and a 6x mage starts attacking too. I was by myself.

I survived the first stun and started heading in the opposite direction. I asked why they were attacking me. They told me "You're a PKK'er" while chasing me. They kept triple teaming me, and got a good 6 or 7 stuns and 2 fears in before I was able to break away and throw a speed scroll on. They said, "what are you going to do, kill us? haha" as they chased after me. I said "yes, but not alone of course."

I go to FP and whisper a cleric I knew, who came immediately to help. I remove the low level guildie from the party and return to 6x abyss with the cleric to 2v3 them.

I intended to put them to shame.

So we return to where they were. I ran into the middle of their party, nova'ed and infernoed, killing a cleric they had randomly partied (who had no idea what was going on. I power leveled her after everything to make back the EXP she lost and then some). I killed one of the 6x fighters. The 7x fighter took off running, using T3 hp and hp regen pots (a scared PK'er I guess). I chased him for a bit, but then turned around and returned to kill the mage. The mage was nowhere to be found (my guess is he ran for the hills).

Then they came back with another 6x axe fighter. The cleric in their party didn't want any part of what was going on. She just sat at the entrance after spawning. The mage had just disappeared by this point. So it was 3 axe fighters vs a mage and a cleric. We start battling. I fear two fighters, then start laying into one of the fighters (who pots). Around the time both fighters come out of fear and one of the fighters lands a successful stun on me, I notice that my cleric is not healing. After 40 seconds of battle, they kill us. My cleric informs me in party chat that he was skill bugged and could not heal. Drat, gotta love those fiesta bugs..

The fighters whisper me with "ha ha, what are you going to do now?" I reply, "Kill you of course, my cleric was skill bugged and could not heal. I'm coming for you now." A 6x mage I knew randomly showed up, so I party him. We return. They see my cleric heal me and you know what they did? All 3 axe fighters took off running, potting the whole way back to the entrance. As they ran like little rats, they shouted "you're charmed! you suck!" and other insults at me. (I've never charmed)

I caught a screenshot as the last one left. Check it out:

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z237/BoredNL/fiestapkk/12-24-20086xmage6xfighterand7xfight.jpg
(I photoshopped out the names)


This is just one example of the PK'ers I've fought in abyss and how they fight. They have no dignity and fight without honor. I have yet to come across one PK'er that would actually stay to fight a fair fight. Whenever they meet a challenge, they wimp out and run. When they team up on someone, they act like they are somehow superior.

So for those of you who think PKK'ers are the same as PK'ers, you are completely and utterly wrong.

If you are a PKK'er, keep fighting the good fight. Happy holidays. :)

good story.

tell me if they disturb u again, i will destroy their guild + whatever guild they decide to join.

Saruin
12-26-2008, 06:41 PM
IGN(s): Vicious
Class: DD Fighter
Level: 5x
Specialty: Damage (STR/Dex)

IGN(s): Gothic_Lolita
Class: Mage
Level: 6x
Specialty: Buying time/Damage (Full int, End gears, max CD on fear, max damage on skills)

IGN(s): Sweet_Lolita
Class: cleric
Level: 5x
Specialty: Full support (END/SPR), extenders, spam healer.

Notes: I don't kill people who fight those are that pvping people in their level range, only those that are teaming up against someone, or people above the suggested abyss lvl (i.e. a lvl 66 in lvl 50 abyss). I also do not help people who enter and are not in that lvl range (ie a lvl 30 in lvl 50 abyss) since they should know better.

bobweirdo
12-27-2008, 07:18 AM
ign:bobweirdy
class:cleric
lvl:50
specialty:umm.... i do a TON of dmg and have no str at all... no idea how but im 20 spr 10 dex (yeah i thought dex was def when i was noob ^^) 20 end 5 str (trying to remove the str and dex but i dont wanna waste my SC on skill reset scrolls) so im pretty widespread when it comes to specialtys ^^

asianboy13
12-28-2008, 01:02 AM
I'll join because my noobs are getting pk'ed almost every day.

IGN: RyanDaHero
Class: Paladin
Lvl:66
Specialty: I cant try to talk them out of pk'ing while casting invincible to the he/she who just got pk'ed so they can escape

IGN: DDExplosion_Ex
Class:Clever Fighter
Lvl:50
Specialty: Uhhhhh i can kill the pk'ers ^^ end/str hybrid i can hold them off while the pk'ed ppl get out of abyss. i cant talk them out of it tho

borednl
12-28-2008, 05:24 AM
Bored, you should erase the name of that guild because there are actually only 3 persons on that guild..

Erase the name of what guild? Do you mean _Illuminati_? We have 34 members and 47 academy members at the moment.

"Illuminati" was actually the first guild on Apoline. It is a dead guild now though. We are not affiliated with that guild in any way. I also named my guild before I knew anything about "Illuminati."

k thx. ;)

good story.


Thanks. :)

To everyone else who submitted your IGN's here, you have been added. Thanks for your show of support!

DF001
12-28-2008, 07:16 AM
I mean the PKer's guild.

darthnish
12-28-2008, 03:37 PM
good suppot here :o, i'm starting to like this server a lot ^^

borednl
12-28-2008, 08:15 PM
I mean the PKer's guild.

I'm sorry, but you're not making sense.

good suppot here :o, i'm starting to like this server a lot ^^

Yea I know, they seem really supportive of each other. In a controversial topic such as this, that shows a lot about their server I think.

Renegadeoflife
12-30-2008, 10:24 PM
I suppose I should be added to the list, since quite often I will take part in PKKing when an Abyss Bully is detected.

IGN: MartelYggdrasil
Class: Paladin
Lvl:61 (At time of entry to list, see my sig for current level)
Specialty: This is one cleric that packs a whallop, being able to tank against enemies even 5 levels above me and tough it out stunned or not. Though if my enemy is sharp on their stone and potion timings it'll be a long battle before I beat them, most of them realize I'm not going to let them off easy and retreat.

booserinc
12-30-2008, 10:28 PM
i would have to be added to the list of the actual pkers.......not on booser the cleric but on my mage.....too many times i was just fighting on my cleric minding my own business to be slapped by some idiot....who cares tho its pvp thats what the zones intended for.. so now i go to abyys and either fight or if im in some kinda stress i just kill people...
i know it sounds mean but ya know what? booser done too many nice things to people for no return...alls i get is a bff pls so know what heres your bff pls lol. anyways im just saying its pvp if you dont want the risk of dieing to another player please frequent one of the other 25 zones fiest offers that doesnt have a risk of pvp death (:

booserinc
12-30-2008, 10:29 PM
oh and yes my mages name is booser2 ya real origional but anyone who knows booser can put 2 and 2 together lol

devin_nicolai
12-30-2008, 10:52 PM
Lol question RIGHT HERE!

If your Killing the Pkers that makes you Pkers, its an endless conundrum o:

Shadowscizor
12-30-2008, 11:06 PM
IGN:_Angels_
CLASS: Paladin
Lvl:84
Specialty: FUll End pally(will almost cause have 2 points on spr). Able to reach 8k or above hp!!!. Goal is to become HELGA resistence During raid^^. To be known as best pally^^hehe maybe!

tanknami
12-31-2008, 02:26 AM
awesome idea kill all poder_latino they are the worst

Saruin
01-04-2009, 07:31 PM
Lol@PK thread.

borednl
01-05-2009, 12:45 AM
Okies, I have added _Angels_ and MartelYggdrasil! Welcome and remember to tell your friends about this thread too. :)

Lol question RIGHT HERE!

If your Killing the Pkers that makes you Pkers, its an endless conundrum o:

Edit: I answered in depth here because the statement that PK'ers are the same as PKK'ers has come up before many times. I don't think it's true at all.

I don't see why it's even a conundrum in the first place. It's pretty simple.

A "PK'er" is defined here as a player who goes to abyss *only* to kill other players. After a PK'er has killed other players, a PKK'er will then come in to kill the PK'er. The difference between the two is obvious.

Stating the obvious: A PK'er goes on the offense when unprovoked. A PKK'er defends other players from the threat.

Here is a real-life comparison to show you how obvious it is: Let's say Germany invades Poland and starts killing Jewish people. Then England goes to Poland and drives the Germans out to protect the Jews left in the country. Is England equal to Germany?

It's obvious that they are not. The only similarity between the two is that both sides are using military force. Germany is voluntarily using force, England is only using force because they must. I would imagine that preventing genocide is a better justification for using military force than "they are an inferior race."

Another example:
-A robber enters a bank and shoots two guards. The police use a sniper to kill him before he kills more innocent people. Is the bank robber and sniper equal?

An example from Fiesta:
A level 69 mage is in 6x abyss with a level 65 cleric trying to grind to 70. He is gathering a mob, when a level 76 axe fighter stuns and kills his cleric. The mob kills him and he loses 1% exp. Then the level 76 fighter goes to the spawn point and kills the cleric first, then the mage again. Both the mage and cleric are frustrated, but decide to wait in FP before returning for a few minutes. When they return, the fighter is still down there and kills them both again, saying "you suk! nubs.." Other players go down to grind and the fighter spam kills them as well till they are forced to leave. They all lost scrolls and EXP. The mage fires up his web-browser and finds someone from the list to help him. They go down together. The fighter stuns the cleric, but the PKK and lvl69 mage are able to kill the PK'ing fighter. The fighter keeps attacking, so they kill the fighter 2 more times. The fighter laughs and says "u suk! i use teva yo nubs!" The fighter gets lucky once and kills the PKK'er, who loses their scrolls and EXP. Then the group kills the fighter 4 more times. Finally the fighter gives up and leaves abyss.

Is the person acting as a PKK here really the same as the PK? I don't see why you would think this..

rikoshi
01-05-2009, 09:33 AM
Okies, I have added _Angels_ and MartelYggdrasil! Welcome and remember to tell your friends about this thread too. :)



Edit: I answered in depth here because the statement that PK'ers are the same as PKK'ers has come up before many times. I don't think it's true at all.

I don't see why it's even a conundrum in the first place. It's pretty simple.

A "PK'er" is defined here as a player who goes to abyss *only* to kill other players. After a PK'er has killed other players, a PKK'er will then come in to kill the PK'er. The difference between the two is obvious.

Stating the obvious: A PK'er goes on the offense when unprovoked. A PKK'er defends other players from the threat.

Here is a real-life comparison to show you how obvious it is: Let's say Germany invades Poland and starts killing Jewish people. Then England goes to Poland and drives the Germans out to protect the Jews left in the country. Is England equal to Germany?

It's obvious that they are not. The only similarity between the two is that both sides are using military force. Germany is voluntarily using force, England is only using force because they must. I would imagine that preventing genocide is a better justification for using military force than "they are an inferior race."

Another example:
-A robber enters a bank and shoots two guards. The police use a sniper to kill him before he kills more innocent people. Is the bank robber and sniper equal?

An example from Fiesta:
A level 69 mage is in 6x abyss with a level 65 cleric trying to grind to 70. He is gathering a mob, when a level 76 axe fighter stuns and kills his cleric. The mob kills him and he loses 1% exp. Then the level 76 fighter goes to the spawn point and kills the cleric first, then the mage again. Both the mage and cleric are frustrated, but decide to wait in FP before returning for a few minutes. When they return, the fighter is still down there and kills them both again, saying "you suk! nubs.." Other players go down to grind and the fighter spam kills them as well till they are forced to leave. They all lost scrolls and EXP. The mage fires up his web-browser and finds someone from the list to help him. They go down together. The fighter stuns the cleric, but the PKK and lvl69 mage are able to kill the PK'ing fighter. The fighter keeps attacking, so they kill the fighter 2 more times. The fighter laughs and says "u suk! i use teva yo nubs!" The fighter gets lucky once and kills the PKK'er, who loses their scrolls and EXP. Then the group kills the fighter 4 more times. Finally the fighter gives up and leaves abyss.

Is the person acting as a PKK here really the same as the PK? I don't see why you would think this..

yes, pking isnt liked by most ppl... because there the ones dying... everyone plays this game in there own way... pking just happens to be fun when using alts..

devin_nicolai
01-05-2009, 07:51 PM
LMAO, I know my main wont be added to the pkkers but its worth a shot

Mana_Burn
70
Mage
Specials: I can beat higher levels then me( I guess that would be helpful) , Novas are at cool max and power max, And fear.

But my fighter will be a pker.



Specialty: This is one cleric that packs a whallop, being able to tank against enemies even 5 levels above me and tough it out stunned or not.
*Refers to our fight at the 5x, Your wallops didnt do much to my lv 53 fighter :/ , And you had another cleric with you o:

borednl
01-05-2009, 11:26 PM
LMAO, I know my main wont be added to the pkkers but its worth a shot

Mana_Burn
70
Mage
Specials: I can beat higher levels then me( I guess that would be helpful) , Novas are at cool max and power max, And fear.

But my fighter will be a pker.


*Refers to our fight at the 5x, Your wallops didnt do much to my lv 53 fighter :/ , And you had another cleric with you o:

Well at least you are honest. But you sort of have to pick one or the other, ya know? You are either out to help people or you are out to impede them. If players see you doing both, then you're more of a rogue then a PK'er or PKK'er.

devin_nicolai
01-05-2009, 11:40 PM
zzz, Aw I cant be both, Hmmm... This might take a little thinking.

rikoshi
01-06-2009, 08:25 AM
heh......lol

hefnutz
01-06-2009, 11:22 PM
Defenders of Abyss (18 characters):

Edit: This page can be used as an easy reference by using the following link:: http://tinyurl.com/EpithPKK

There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to.

And so.. I'm creating this thread.

For you PKK'ers out there who are willing to join forces and help, list your IGN, class, level, and specialty here so that you can be called upon when PK'ers run amok in the various abysses.

Tell your friends, guild members, academy members, or whomever about this thread so PK'ers will have a run for their money. :)

To sign up use the format of the following example (this is for 2 characters, list them separately so the list can be sorted by level):



To make it clear what a PK'er, PKK'er, and PVP'ers are, I will define them here. I will also issue a suggested protocol for PKK'ers to follow here.

PK'er: A character who goes to abyss just to kill other players. Usually they use words like "nub" a lot, are fighters wielding axes, and only attack people in abyss that is 10 levels below them.
Note: Some of these people are not mean-spirited and will not spawn kill endlessly, but some will. Either way, if they attack you unprovoked, kill you in abyss and you want them dead, then this thread is for you.

PKK'er: A character who will go to abyss sometimes just to kill PK'ers. Sometimes they will sit in abyss guarding the entrance. The moment they see a PK'er attack someone randomly, they attack the PK'er. We also make ourselves available to other players who need help. A PKK'er might not be a PKK for noble reasons. Maybe they are just looking for a challenge and they see PK'ers as a challenge. Most PKK'ers however, like myself, do it to help other players.

PVP'er: A person who battles in the Battle Zones often and sometimes challenges others to 1v1 duels in abyss. This person doesn't have to be a PK or PKK'er. They don't fight unless the other person or party has agreed to the fight.

Protocol: Don't let yourself be duped. When called on to help, make sure you are actually killing a PK'er before doing so, otherwise you are actually being a PK'er. It is up to you who you decide to help though. PKK'ing is not about helping level 4x people grind in level 6x abyss, it's about righting wrongs. If you feel that a level 4x has no place in level 6x abyss, then don't help one who has been PK'ed there. It's up to you how and who you want to help.

Note: I am from Apoline and cannot help on your server, but because of the success I've had there I decided to create threads here and on Bijou. Here are links to the other server PKK threads: Apoline (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581) Bijou (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137016) Teva (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133489)


I really dig this whole idea, I hate seeing players not being able to even get a chance of grinding because of pkers just camping at the entrance spam killing them. Poor things D:

IGN: ImPerfection_
Level: 77 and going!
Specialty:Full STR and full +9 Godly STR/END gears
Note: very active IG, rarely ever AFK, always up for a little help in our community.

epithrocks
01-07-2009, 12:28 AM
ill join
IGN(s): Sapphire_ / Sp3cTraL
Class: Mage
Level: 7X
Specialty: PVP/AOE, Full Int +9 Blues, Can keep someone feared for 24 seconds


IGN: Saphire_
Class: Fighter
Level: 6X
Specialty: STR DD fighter

borednl
01-07-2009, 12:49 AM
I really dig this whole idea, I hate seeing players not being able to even get a chance of grinding because of pkers just camping at the entrance spam killing them. Poor things D:

IGN: ImPerfection_
Level: 77 and going!
Specialty:Full STR and full +9 Godly STR/END gears
Note: very active IG, rarely ever AFK, always up for a little help in our community.

Added! And.. Nice PVP gear! :)

Btw, feel free to sign up your lower level characters too if you'd like, they're needed too. :)

ill join
IGN(s): Sapphire_ / Sp3cTraL
Class: Mage
Level: 7X
Specialty: PVP/AOE, Full Int +9 Blues, Can keep someone feared for 24 seconds

IGN: Saphire_
Class: Fighter
Level: 6X
Specialty: STR DD fighter

Added! Another godly gear player! w00t.

Btw, I changed the "Sp3cTraL" to show your other name, since the purpose of this formatting is to display all of a person's signed up IGN's, which allows a player to reach you whether you are on one player or the other. If you were encouraging someone to contact a member of your guild to reach you (if unable to whisper), then I can add a note to your to your listings.

zzz, Aw I cant be both, Hmmm... This might take a little thinking.

Well, you can, but I doubt either group of people will accept you. A rogue would be someone who does both, but is a part of no group (except for maybe other rogues, which would be pretty rare since there aren't many of them around).

kylecravey
01-07-2009, 08:01 PM
this is getting highly annoying weak lonely people who get bullied feel they should take it out on people just trying to play a game if u a pker and especially in a pker guild i find u highly pathetic to pick on the weak instead of helping

borednl
01-09-2009, 03:22 AM
Yea, it is rather annoying, but it is fun killing them. :)

WesleyS
01-09-2009, 09:06 PM
Well I suppose its only right that I join in this :). Sides i cant let everyone here have all the fun....

IGN(s): wesleyD / master of Endless_Fruy
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: Tank over 8k hp... can do damage with my +9 80 axe ^.... maxed out dev ph slice and dice working on WW ....last but not least i can use my army of taters to kill muahahaha

YoshimaruOrona
01-09-2009, 11:07 PM
I want in on the pkk'ing =p I remember the frustration of trying to level meh lowbies in abyss and being randomly gang banged or simply attacked by some random +9 axe fighter while I had a mob on me, and all for the 'fun' of one, two, or three individuals who seemed to enjoy interrupting me. If I can save another person from that frustration, my day is made.

IGN: Orona_Kun
Class: Cleric
Level: 89
Specialty: Complete support (lacking a much needed +9 shield though >.<) cleric. Basic heals for 2700 hp and rejuvenates for 4350 hp. If I can safely equip my blue boots (results in a loss of 15 def and 155 hp for me), I can rejuv for 5075 hp. Also good for t4 buffing any pkkers who need it in any of the non-8x abysses.

IGN: Orona_Neechan
Class: Archer
Level: 66 (Leveling him atm, so this number will be changing every day or so)
Specialty: None in particular. He's 25 spr, rest end, so he has an abnormally high hp for most archers (2.6k unbuffed atm). Good for dealing with fighters (provided I have cleric support, or I'll eventually be overpowered, even with buffs).

IGN: Orona
Class: Fighter
Level: 44
Specialty: Tank build. 2.1k hp and 402 def unbuffed with axe equipped. 2k hp and 491 def unbuffed with 1h/shield equipped. (1h/shield form has more potential; atm, I only have a lv30 +9 white 1h and lv30 +8 green shield in my possession)

I also have a mage, but he's not suited at all for pvp. He's 4x atm, but maybe when he gets stifle and/or fear, he'll fare better. I'm only listing his name for contacting purposes:

IGN: Orona_Sensei

Note: All of the above characters are without any sparkcash to enhance their ability, and shall remain that way. It's a personal challenge of mine to cap all classes without cash shop assistance. Therefore, I won't be using any on them, even for the purpose of pkk'ing. However, I can (and likely will) create another account for the sole purpose of pkk'ing. For that account, I'd be willing to buy extenders, crit suits, etc., to help fight pkers. I'll post an update once I have my pkk account up and with at least one character ready for the abyss.

metalfyre
01-10-2009, 02:19 AM
GN: Metalfyre
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: I keell fast xD

I have other alts specifically for PKK-ing, especially in the 2x and 5x abyss where these things are much more rampant. I won't list them here, but if you can get me on my fighter I should be able to help ;)

Saruin
01-10-2009, 02:25 AM
GN: Metalfyre
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: I keell fast xD

I have other alts specifically for PKK-ing, especially in the 2x and 5x abyss where these things are much more rampant. I won't list them here, but if you can get me on my fighter I should be able to help ;)

LOL xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

numot
01-12-2009, 11:30 AM
such a dumb idea. you are outnumbered heavily. Btw, defeating violence with violence is inherently duplicite and prepostereous. seriously, lose the hero complexe and stop living failed dreams of being a spikey haired hero vicariously through fiesta. gawd.

Khaos_X
01-12-2009, 12:20 PM
Haven't been going around the forums lately and saw this thread, i got one thing to say, if people pk my guildies/friends in abyss, they know what they'll get in the end for ruining my guidlies'/friend's gaming experience. It may be fun to pk people, but its not fun for the victims that gets pk'ed =.=

moosecat
01-12-2009, 12:30 PM
such a dumb idea. you are outnumbered heavily. Btw, defeating violence with violence is inherently duplicite and prepostereous. seriously, lose the hero complexe and stop living failed dreams of being a spikey haired hero vicariously through fiesta. gawd.

I like the way this guy thinks!

But besides the point PvP in this game is like the special Olympics in every way shape and form.

lordhatred6665150
01-12-2009, 11:07 PM
IGN: LordHatred
Level: 81
Class: Fighter

IGN: LordVengeance
Level: 69
Class: Mage

I don't like PK.... I only have kill points through defending my pt in abyss or PvP kq. And yes, you can catch Hatred in action in FBZ1 sometimes. :D

YoshimaruOrona
01-13-2009, 02:44 AM
such a dumb idea. you are outnumbered heavily. Btw, defeating violence with violence is inherently duplicite and prepostereous. seriously, lose the hero complexe and stop living failed dreams of being a spikey haired hero vicariously through fiesta. gawd.

Well, lets see. In the past, I've tried defeating violence with words .... and a pk'er would kill me >.> (on my alts, usually)

Unless you have a better solution, don't knock this one.

Also, maybe I forgot how to count, but I think the number of people on Epith who hate and/or dislike PK'ing MORE than outnumbers the amout of pkers. You ever wonder why there's little to no pk'ing in the 70 abyss? Because the instant someone tries that nonsense, you'll have the big guilds like Leg, Azumi, SgFriends, and w/e else on em. (I know there's other large guilds, but its 4 am atm, and my brain is struggling. Sorry if I missed your guild x.x)

Last note, and I might be out of line here, but you're criticizing us saying we have a "hero" complex. Which wouldnt be a problem, except it's coming from the guy with the "dark lord" complex. Please dont make me have to go find posts from you to prove my point >.> (Note: If those were jokes, you should really consider tossing a "jk" or "jp" in a couple of those posts, just for the sake of clarity.)

borednl
01-13-2009, 10:51 AM
Well I suppose its only right that I join in this :). Sides i cant let everyone here have all the fun....

IGN(s): wesleyD / master of Endless_Fruy
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: Tank over 8k hp... can do damage with my +9 80 axe ^.... maxed out dev ph slice and dice working on WW ....last but not least i can use my army of taters to kill muahahaha

Added. :)

It's usually fun PKK'ing, but not always. It is always rewarding though. :)

I want in on the pkk'ing =p I remember the frustration of trying to level meh lowbies in abyss and being randomly gang banged or simply attacked by some random +9 axe fighter while I had a mob on me, and all for the 'fun' of one, two, or three individuals who seemed to enjoy interrupting me. If I can save another person from that frustration, my day is made.

IGN: Orona_Kun
Class: Cleric
Level: 89
Specialty: Complete support (lacking a much needed +9 shield though >.<) cleric. Basic heals for 2700 hp and rejuvenates for 4350 hp. If I can safely equip my blue boots (results in a loss of 15 def and 155 hp for me), I can rejuv for 5075 hp. Also good for t4 buffing any pkkers who need it in any of the non-8x abysses.

IGN: Orona_Neechan
Class: Archer
Level: 66 (Leveling him atm, so this number will be changing every day or so)
Specialty: None in particular. He's 25 spr, rest end, so he has an abnormally high hp for most archers (2.6k unbuffed atm). Good for dealing with fighters (provided I have cleric support, or I'll eventually be overpowered, even with buffs).

IGN: Orona
Class: Fighter
Level: 44
Specialty: Tank build. 2.1k hp and 402 def unbuffed with axe equipped. 2k hp and 491 def unbuffed with 1h/shield equipped. (1h/shield form has more potential; atm, I only have a lv30 +9 white 1h and lv30 +8 green shield in my possession)

I also have a mage, but he's not suited at all for pvp. He's 4x atm, but maybe when he gets stifle and/or fear, he'll fare better. I'm only listing his name for contacting purposes:

IGN: Orona_Sensei

Note: All of the above characters are without any sparkcash to enhance their ability, and shall remain that way. It's a personal challenge of mine to cap all classes without cash shop assistance. Therefore, I won't be using any on them, even for the purpose of pkk'ing. However, I can (and likely will) create another account for the sole purpose of pkk'ing. For that account, I'd be willing to buy extenders, crit suits, etc., to help fight pkers. I'll post an update once I have my pkk account up and with at least one character ready for the abyss.

Thank you for joining! :)

I don't use charms or crit suits or anything. I do use extenders on my mage though, but not for PKK'ing. It's simply because grinding in TR is too dangerous and/or slow without extenders. Gathering 3 monsters = fail for AOE'ing.

Also, feel free to sign up your 4x mage. Lower level characters are needed in this thread. If everyone waited till they were level 89, then the only abyss they could help in would be 8x.

I feel your pain with your mage though, a 4x mage (even one with godly gears on) is more of a punching bag than a force to be reckoned with in pvp. However, you don't have to solo PK'ers on the mage, you can just serve in a DD role to defend a lower level party. You can also bring in some friends too if you want, which makes for good times. :)

Usually when I go in, I will first attempt to end the PK'ing peacefully. If that doesn't work and I am attacked, then I will either stay and fight or leave abyss, coming back with more help. I can usually kill 2 pk'ers, but 3 is a bit excessive, so I'll come back with 3 other level 76 players to completely overwhelm them (in 6x abyss). They get the message and if they see me again, they won't try to triple team me again, but will instead run. I have a small collection of screenshots I took of PK'ers running from me out of abyss. lol

GN: Metalfyre
Class: Fighter
Level: 8x
Specialty: I keell fast xD

I have other alts specifically for PKK-ing, especially in the 2x and 5x abyss where these things are much more rampant. I won't list them here, but if you can get me on my fighter I should be able to help ;)

Welcome welcome. :) How come you won't list your 2x and 5x IGN's though? We really could use more listings for those level ranges. (You don't have to, but it would help, since someone isn't going to search for a level 8x fighter if having problems in those abyss's and so won't see your note, unless they remember it specifically from reading the whole list previously.)

such a dumb idea. you are outnumbered heavily. Btw, defeating violence with violence is inherently duplicite and prepostereous. seriously, lose the hero complexe and stop living failed dreams of being a spikey haired hero vicariously through fiesta. gawd.

I'm guessing that you are a PK'er.

Using wrongly spelled big words won't make your argument correct. It just looks like you're trying to sound intelligent, despite your argument not being supported properly.

PKK'ers are not outnumbered. Far from it. Have you been to any PKK vs PK occurrences in abyss? Nobody wants to help a PK'er who suddenly has a mob of people massacring them. Even the person's friends will usually say "this is dumb.. I'm out of here.." after they learn they have come to aid their friend's pking..

Also, the sort of PK'ing that comes up on the radar is the harassing type. Most people will not seek out help if they were killed once and then left alone to go grind. The sort of harassing pk'er who keeps killing people over and over for no reason (other than their joy over another person's misery) must be overwhelmed and pushed out abyss.

As for having a "hero complex," I can only speak for myself here, but I see nothing wrong with wanting to help those who are at an unfair disadvantage. It's a matter of showing respect and dignity to others, not serving my ego. Even if someone is trying to be a hero, then I would respect that person for preferring honor over inaction.

If you feel so strongly about this, then I would suggest to you to start a "Let's talk to PK'ers, we can convince them to stop spam killing and harassing people!" thread. Really, go ahead. Feel free. ;)

IGN: LordHatred
Level: 81
Class: Fighter

IGN: LordVengeance
Level: 69
Class: Mage

I don't like PK.... I only have kill points through defending my pt in abyss or PvP kq. And yes, you can catch Hatred in action in FBZ1 sometimes. :D

Added and added! =D

Saruin
01-13-2009, 11:10 AM
Well, lets see. In the past, I've tried defeating violence with words .... and a pk'er would kill me >.> (on my alts, usually)

Unless you have a better solution, don't knock this one.

Also, maybe I forgot how to count, but I think the number of people on Epith who hate and/or dislike PK'ing MORE than outnumbers the amout of pkers. You ever wonder why there's little to no pk'ing in the 70 abyss? Because the instant someone tries that nonsense, you'll have the big guilds like Leg, Azumi, SgFriends, and w/e else on em. (I know there's other large guilds, but its 4 am atm, and my brain is struggling. Sorry if I missed your guild x.x)

Last note, and I might be out of line here, but you're criticizing us saying we have a "hero" complex. Which wouldnt be a problem, except it's coming from the guy with the "dark lord" complex. Please dont make me have to go find posts from you to prove my point >.> (Note: If those were jokes, you should really consider tossing a "jk" or "jp" in a couple of those posts, just for the sake of clarity.)

I love you. ♥

Also; Vicious is 65 now :x

YoshimaruOrona
01-13-2009, 11:13 PM
Lol ya serious? =x You're gonna pass meh Neechan at this rate xD

*rushes his 2x abyss PKKer's training in hopes to catch up*

But grats to ya nonetheless. <3333333333333333333333 ^^








(I want that smexy heart character you used... T.T)

spheris
01-14-2009, 10:16 AM
Edit: This page can be used as an easy reference by using the following link:: http://tinyurl.com/EpithPKK

There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to.

And so.. I'm creating this thread.

For you PKK'ers out there who are willing to join forces and help, list your IGN, class, level, and specialty here so that you can be called upon when PK'ers run amok in the various abysses.

Tell your friends, guild members, academy members, or whomever about this thread so PK'ers will have a run for their money. :)

To sign up use the format of the following example (this is for 2 characters, list them separately so the list can be sorted by level):



To make it clear what a PK'er, PKK'er, and PVP'ers are, I will define them here. I will also issue a suggested protocol for PKK'ers to follow here.

PK'er: A character who goes to abyss just to kill other players. Usually they use words like "nub" a lot, are fighters wielding axes, and only attack people in abyss that is 10 levels below them.
Note: Some of these people are not mean-spirited and will not spawn kill endlessly, but some will. Either way, if they attack you unprovoked, kill you in abyss and you want them dead, then this thread is for you.

PKK'er: A character who will go to abyss sometimes just to kill PK'ers. Sometimes they will sit in abyss guarding the entrance. The moment they see a PK'er attack someone randomly, they attack the PK'er. We also make ourselves available to other players who need help. A PKK'er might not be a PKK for noble reasons. Maybe they are just looking for a challenge and they see PK'ers as a challenge. Most PKK'ers however, like myself, do it to help other players.

PVP'er: A person who battles in the Battle Zones often and sometimes challenges others to 1v1 duels in abyss. This person doesn't have to be a PK or PKK'er. They don't fight unless the other person or party has agreed to the fight.

Protocol: Don't let yourself be duped. When called on to help, make sure you are actually killing a PK'er before doing so, otherwise you are actually being a PK'er. It is up to you who you decide to help though. PKK'ing is not about helping level 4x people grind in level 6x abyss, it's about righting wrongs. If you feel that a level 4x has no place in level 6x abyss, then don't help one who has been PK'ed there. It's up to you how and who you want to help.

Note: I am from Apoline and cannot help on your server, but because of the success I've had there I decided to create threads here and on Bijou. Here are links to the other server PKK threads: Apoline (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581) Bijou (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137016) Teva (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133489)




I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?

Before I continue I'm going to list a few facts[B]:

1: It's perfectly within everyones right to be a PK, or a PKK, or just one of the nameless masses.

2: Not all PKs' go after people 10 levels lower than themselves:the assumption that thats what they all do is just flat out incorrect.


Now as far as PKs are concerned, by all means please continue, PKing is, afterall, a part of the game. If you get killed by a PK then I suggest leveling up and paying them back yourself.


About PKKs, you have some strange misplaced sense of self righteousness, and believe yourself to somehow be better than those who PK freely,

or you're a PK looking for a so called valid reason to PK,
and heres why:

-PKing is PKing, regardless of wether its a "PK" doing the killing, or a "PKK"

-if we have PKs, and PKKs, then why not continue the trend and have PKKKs, and PKKKKs, and PKKKKKs, and PKKKKKKs? See what I'm saying?

The whole idea of differentiating between PK and PKK is rediculous.

-If you kill another player in the abyss you are a PK, whether you like it or not, that is the truth.


AND!!! its my personal opinion, that the people who use guilds as a means of revenge, to beat down a player who killed one of their members, to teach the player killers as a whole a lesson, Those people are the true villians in this game.

And I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that Epith does have a beat down guild, I won't say the name, but Most of the higher level players know which one it is. I will say, however, that the people who join it to mob kill so called PKs relentlessly ought to be ashamed of themselves.

One final note, to those who stated they would use thier guilds to make PKers pay, be very much aware that warring for revenge is against the guild war rules and can get you banned :D

YoshimaruOrona
01-15-2009, 12:51 AM
(This is simply my thoughts in response to your opinions, spheris. THIS IS, BY NO MEANS, AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE PKK'ERS LOOK RIGHTEOUS.)

If you'd like to call PKK'ing PK'ing with a 'self-righteous' mindset, then so be it.

I'll think of PKK'ing as "extremely selective PK'ing". And yes, I'm fine with acquiring kill points by killing off some PKers.

Honestly, though, you can't deny the fact that there are people who rampage in the abysses and kill the players within that can't defend themselves. Even if it is a part of the game, doesn't it bother you at all? Sure, not all PKers do this, but because of the ones that do, they given anybody who calls him or herself a PKer a bad rep. Its just stereotypes. As much it sucks, these exist on online games as well.

I, personally, dont think I would use my power to kill every PKer. I'd prolly let the one-time-killing-PKers go about their business. I've come to terms with the fact that some use PKing as an attempt to get away from grinding. As long as they dont abuse the level or strength difference between them and the ones who try leveling in abyss, I'm fine with it.

However, the ones that spawn kill and just run thru the abyss attacking every single player that appears helpless (usually while they're fighting mobs); those are the ones that need to be stopped, in my personal opinion, and in the opinions of other players. If you had a friend who was killed by one of these KP-happy PKers, I doubt you'd tell them "its how they choose to play the game", especially if you had a character who could go in the abyss where your friend was killed.

I do agree with you on the guilding for revenge point. I cant see PKing as a reason to pull an entire guild into it (unless there's a guild of PKers ... then it gets tricky). A party of 3, 4, or 5, should be enough to take care of any annoyances in abyss.

And for the record, not all PKKs think the same. In the same sense that not all PKers act the same, it also applies to PKKers.

spheris
01-15-2009, 11:18 AM
(This is simply my thoughts in response to your opinions, spheris. THIS IS, BY NO MEANS, AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE PKK'ERS LOOK RIGHTEOUS.)

If you'd like to call PKK'ing PK'ing with a 'self-righteous' mindset, then so be it.

I'll think of PKK'ing as "extremely selective PK'ing". And yes, I'm fine with acquiring kill points by killing off some PKers.

Honestly, though, you can't deny the fact that there are people who rampage in the abysses and kill the players within that can't defend themselves. Even if it is a part of the game, doesn't it bother you at all? Sure, not all PKers do this, but because of the ones that do, they given anybody who calls him or herself a PKer a bad rep. Its just stereotypes. As much it sucks, these exist on online games as well.

I, personally, dont think I would use my power to kill every PKer. I'd prolly let the one-time-killing-PKers go about their business. I've come to terms with the fact that some use PKing as an attempt to get away from grinding. As long as they dont abuse the level or strength difference between them and the ones who try leveling in abyss, I'm fine with it.

However, the ones that spawn kill and just run thru the abyss attacking every single player that appears helpless (usually while they're fighting mobs); those are the ones that need to be stopped, in my personal opinion, and in the opinions of other players. If you had a friend who was killed by one of these KP-happy PKers, I doubt you'd tell them "its how they choose to play the game", especially if you had a character who could go in the abyss where your friend was killed.

I do agree with you on the guilding for revenge point. I cant see PKing as a reason to pull an entire guild into it (unless there's a guild of PKers ... then it gets tricky). A party of 3, 4, or 5, should be enough to take care of any annoyances in abyss.

And for the record, not all PKKs think the same. In the same sense that not all PKers act the same, it also applies to PKKers.

Yes there are people running about PKing endlessly and mercilessly, and those same peoplefind out exactly why attempting to PK everyone they see is a bad idea when they try and fight me :3


For the most part though I avoid the abyss like the plague, I prefered grinding in land of trials, trumpy remains, burning rock, and more receltly guardians holy shrine.


About the spawn killing PKs, I would say that extends beyond the realm of "its part of the game" and into the just being a jerk category. On that same note I'd say that the worst of the spawn killing PKs are the high level guild masters who take advantage of the academy warp system to enter the low level abyss' to pluck off every unsuspecting person upon entry.

And about the guild thing, just so everyone knows, it does happen, and heres an example (without names :P ) :

Person A kills persons B and C every time persons B and C try to kill person As' party members.

Take note that this happens in one of the deeper rooms in the abyss far away from the respawn point.

Persons B and C lie to a friend of theirs who is lv 89, this lv89 player forms a temporary beat down guild and wars person As' guild.

Person A is only in their 70s, and this newly formed beat down guild is all 8X.

Person A is also the strongest member of their guild.

Its my opinion that Person A was perfectly within their right to defend their party members and that the lv 89 player was completely out of line, wether they thought they were helping their friend or not.

AhLook
01-15-2009, 02:21 PM
i juz remembered i can only enter 8x abyss.. but if help is needed.. with a pker pking with cleric.. i'll just war the clerics guild.. lol.. quite effective imo ^^

deathsythe3
01-16-2009, 08:08 PM
srry i messed up on this one

deathsythe3
01-16-2009, 08:15 PM
hey borednl add me to the list

IGN:destroyer33/gaara2258
Level:63
Class:warrior
Specialty:i got 5k hp with scrolls and can kill people 10 lvl s higher thn me
Note:any PK'er who PK's on my mage will die a harsh death with no mercy

Saruin
01-19-2009, 10:41 AM
I think [HiPoweredGangsters] are a "pk" guild.
All they do is stand around spawn area PKing in the abyss.

Momishin
01-19-2009, 10:57 AM
IGN: TheSandman
Class: Clever Fighter
Level: 47
Specialty: Damage. I am a Damage Dealer, although my health sucks(shhh).
Note: I PKK people who act like nubs and spam kill characters in abyss. I also like to kill PKer's that use scrolls. I hate people who hide behind scrolls. Especially lower levels that hide behind tier3's. Please, if your going to fight someone make it fair and use your true power not some stupid scrolls that buff you up. Real buffs don't count =/

destiny1027
01-19-2009, 11:40 AM
IGN: Distyn
Class: Fighter
Level: 56 (Can go into 40)
Specialty: Hit em hard, hit em fast.
Note: Who ya gonna call?

borednl
01-21-2009, 02:39 AM
I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?

Before I continue I'm going to list a few facts[B]:

1: It's perfectly within everyones right to be a PK, or a PKK, or just one of the nameless masses.

2: Not all PKs' go after people 10 levels lower than themselves:the assumption that thats what they all do is just flat out incorrect.


Now as far as PKs are concerned, by all means please continue, PKing is, afterall, a part of the game. If you get killed by a PK then I suggest leveling up and paying them back yourself.


About PKKs, you have some strange misplaced sense of self righteousness, and believe yourself to somehow be better than those who PK freely,

or you're a PK looking for a so called valid reason to PK,
and heres why:

-PKing is PKing, regardless of wether its a "PK" doing the killing, or a "PKK"

-if we have PKs, and PKKs, then why not continue the trend and have PKKKs, and PKKKKs, and PKKKKKs, and PKKKKKKs? See what I'm saying?

The whole idea of differentiating between PK and PKK is rediculous.

-If you kill another player in the abyss you are a PK, whether you like it or not, that is the truth.


AND!!! its my personal opinion, that the people who use guilds as a means of revenge, to beat down a player who killed one of their members, to teach the player killers as a whole a lesson, Those people are the true villians in this game.

And I can say without a shadow of a doubt, that Epith does have a beat down guild, I won't say the name, but Most of the higher level players know which one it is. I will say, however, that the people who join it to mob kill so called PKs relentlessly ought to be ashamed of themselves.

One final note, to those who stated they would use thier guilds to make PKers pay, be very much aware that warring for revenge is against the guild war rules and can get you banned :D

Hokay, I read your reply and first you will need to get out your dictionary and english book.

Look up these key words: Offensive, Fact, Usually, Note


"Offensive" explained:
Ok, first you say, " I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?" The word offensive means "provoking anger." By calling what I took the time to write out "nonsense," you are doing something that is called an "insult." And "insult" is meant to provoke anger, or be "offensive." So to be correct, you should say, "Intending to to be offensive, what is this nonsense?"

"Usually" explained:
The word "usually," doesn't mean "all." To argue against what I said as though I used the word "all," is rather pointless. (it's called a "straw man fallacy" and is a weak, unfair way to make an argument) When I say that PK'ers will usually go into the abyss 10 levels below their own level, it doesn't mean all PK'ers do this.

Would you say that most PK'ers go out of their way not to enter lower level abysses or do they prefer to be in them? If you want to argue this point, go ahead but I'm sure nobody would agree with you.

"Fact" Explained:
The word fact is synonymous with the word truth, which is best described (briefly) as "an objective understanding of reality."

"1: It's perfectly within everyones right to be a PK, or a PKK, or just one of the nameless masses."

This is a "value judgement," which relies on subjective interpretation and so is not a "fact." Also, although I would agree with your point here, I don't see how it adds to your argument. In fact later on you contradict yourself by stating that someone should deal with a PK'er themselves rather than seek any outside help.

"2: Not all PKs' go after people 10 levels lower than themselves:the assumption that thats what they all do is just flat out incorrect."

Again, I never said "all PK'ers." You said that I said that, but I didn't.

The rest of what you said was a big old jumble of words. Let me clarify a few things for you here.

The acronym "PK" has many definitions. There is the broad and uncommonly used definition that would include any player that has ever attacked another player (whether in abyss or FBZ). This is a very rare usage of the acronym though and is not very useful. Why use this definition if it doesn't distinguish anyone in a meaningful way?

Then there is the commonly used (and useful) definition of PK'er, which is "someone who disrupts other players whom are attempting to grind or quest by killing them."

I further define what a PK is for the purpose of this thread, to limit the scope of what a PKK'er is able to label as a PK'er, since sometimes brawls in abyss will break out, but nobody involved is actually a PK or PKK'er.

The population of people we are killing needs to be focused in on only those people who are harassing and/or being unfair to other players in abyss. Understand? If you have a better definition you'd like me to use, then feel free to suggest something, but I'm not going to accept the uncommon and useless definition you provided.

Now let's move to the word "note."

"Note" explained:
You may have become confused with this word, because it has so many definitions. The definition of the word that applies to my usage is "an explanatory or critical comment." The "note" I left underneath the definition of PK'er is a "critical comment," which is necessary to explain that there are actually some PK'ers who are atypical. These "atypical" PK'ers are not disrespectful with how they PK. I then stated that those players would still face PKK'ers though.

Side Note: Revenge warring is against ex-GM Dakkon's warring guidelines. It is not against the ToS and so is not officially a punishable offense unless it constitutes harassment (which it doesn't, unless there is chain warring going on). I don't agree with warring as a solution between individuals in abyss. Talking, 1v1ing, or party vs party battles is the way to resolve issues there. To involve everyone in a person's guild for that one PK'ers actions is unfair to them, unless the guild itself is a "PK" guild or something.

(This is simply my thoughts in response to your opinions, spheris. THIS IS, BY NO MEANS, AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE PKK'ERS LOOK RIGHTEOUS.)

If you'd like to call PKK'ing PK'ing with a 'self-righteous' mindset, then so be it.

I'll think of PKK'ing as "extremely selective PK'ing". And yes, I'm fine with acquiring kill points by killing off some PKers.

Honestly, though, you can't deny the fact that there are people who rampage in the abysses and kill the players within that can't defend themselves. Even if it is a part of the game, doesn't it bother you at all? Sure, not all PKers do this, but because of the ones that do, they given anybody who calls him or herself a PKer a bad rep. Its just stereotypes. As much it sucks, these exist on online games as well.

I, personally, dont think I would use my power to kill every PKer. I'd prolly let the one-time-killing-PKers go about their business. I've come to terms with the fact that some use PKing as an attempt to get away from grinding. As long as they dont abuse the level or strength difference between them and the ones who try leveling in abyss, I'm fine with it.

However, the ones that spawn kill and just run thru the abyss attacking every single player that appears helpless (usually while they're fighting mobs); those are the ones that need to be stopped, in my personal opinion, and in the opinions of other players. If you had a friend who was killed by one of these KP-happy PKers, I doubt you'd tell them "its how they choose to play the game", especially if you had a character who could go in the abyss where your friend was killed.

I do agree with you on the guilding for revenge point. I cant see PKing as a reason to pull an entire guild into it (unless there's a guild of PKers ... then it gets tricky). A party of 3, 4, or 5, should be enough to take care of any annoyances in abyss.

And for the record, not all PKKs think the same. In the same sense that not all PKers act the same, it also applies to PKKers.

Spot on!

This part made me laugh out loud: "If you had a friend who was killed by one of these KP-happy PKers, I doubt you'd tell them "its how they choose to play the game""

hey borednl add me to the list

IGN:destroyer33/gaara2258
Level:63
Class:warrior
Specialty:i got 5k hp with scrolls and can kill people 10 lvl s higher thn me
Note:any PK'er who PK's on my mage will die a harsh death with no mercy

Yea! Protect that poor mage. I know how it is. lol

IGN: TheSandman
Class: Clever Fighter
Level: 47
Specialty: Damage. I am a Damage Dealer, although my health sucks(shhh).
Note: I PKK people who act like nubs and spam kill characters in abyss. I also like to kill PKer's that use scrolls. I hate people who hide behind scrolls. Especially lower levels that hide behind tier3's. Please, if your going to fight someone make it fair and use your true power not some stupid scrolls that buff you up. Real buffs don't count =/

Added! =)

IGN: Distyn
Class: Fighter
Level: 56 (Can go into 40)
Specialty: Hit em hard, hit em fast.
Note: Who ya gonna call?

Who ya gonna call? Ghost busters!

Err.. Distyn! =D

Ballantin
01-22-2009, 05:06 PM
I just want to update, im now lvl 72, with 33% crit and can reach 2300 mdamage, 4,5k hp.
So i cant join Abyss 50 anymore u_u

borednl
01-26-2009, 03:29 AM
I just want to update, im now lvl 72, with 33% crit and can reach 2300 mdamage, 4,5k hp.
So i cant join Abyss 50 anymore u_u

Updated. :)

If you'd like me to phrase it differently than the following, let me know.

IGN(s): Ailena
Class: Mage
Level: 72
Specialty: 33% crit, up to 2,300 m.dmg, +4.5k HP

spheris
01-26-2009, 06:34 PM
Hokay, I read your reply and first you will need to get out your dictionary and english book.

Look up these key words: Offensive, Fact, Usually, Note


"Offensive" explained:
Ok, first you say, " I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?" The word offensive means "provoking anger." By calling what I took the time to write out "nonsense," you are doing something that is called an
"insult." And "insult" is meant to provoke anger, or be "offensive." So to be correct, you should say, "Intending to to be offensive, what is this nonsense?"

"Usually" explained:
The word "usually," doesn't mean "all." To argue against what I said as though I used the word "all," is rather pointless. (it's called a "straw man fallacy" and is a weak, unfair way to make an argument) When I say that PK'ers will usually go into the abyss 10 levels below their own level, it doesn't mean all PK'ers do this.

Would you say that most PK'ers go out of their way not to enter lower level abysses or do they prefer to be in them? If you want to argue this point, go ahead but I'm sure nobody would agree with you.

"Fact" Explained:
The word fact is synonymous with the word truth, which is best described (briefly) as "an objective understanding of reality."

"1: It's perfectly within everyones right to be a PK, or a PKK, or just one of the nameless masses."

This is a "value judgement," which relies on subjective interpretation and so is not a "fact." Also, although I would agree with your point here, I don't see how it adds to your argument. In fact later on you contradict yourself by stating that someone should deal with a PK'er themselves rather than seek any outside help.

"2: Not all PKs' go after people 10 levels lower than themselves:the assumption that thats what they all do is just flat out incorrect."

Again, I never said "all PK'ers." You said that I said that, but I didn't.

The rest of what you said was a big old jumble of words. Let me clarify a few things for you here.

The acronym "PK" has many definitions. There is the broad and uncommonly used definition that would include any player that has ever attacked another player (whether in abyss or FBZ). This is a very rare usage of the acronym though and is not very useful. Why use this definition if it doesn't distinguish anyone in a meaningful way?

Then there is the commonly used (and useful) definition of PK'er, which is "someone who disrupts other players whom are attempting to grind or quest by killing them."

I further define what a PK is for the purpose of this thread, to limit the scope of what a PKK'er is able to label as a PK'er, since sometimes brawls in abyss will break out, but nobody involved is actually a PK or PKK'er.

The population of people we are killing needs to be focused in on only those people who are harassing and/or being unfair to other players in abyss. Understand? If you have a better definition you'd like me to use, then feel free to suggest something, but I'm not going to accept the uncommon and useless definition you provided.

Now let's move to the word "note."

"Note" explained:
You may have become confused with this word, because it has so many definitions. The definition of the word that applies to my usage is "an explanatory or critical comment." The "note" I left underneath the definition of PK'er is a "critical comment," which is necessary to explain that there are actually some PK'ers who are atypical. These "atypical" PK'ers are not disrespectful with how they PK. I then stated that those players would still face PKK'ers though.

Side Note: Revenge warring is against ex-GM Dakkon's warring guidelines. It is not against the ToS and so is not officially a punishable offense unless it constitutes harassment (which it doesn't, unless there is chain warring going on). I don't agree with warring as a solution between individuals in abyss. Talking, 1v1ing, or party vs party battles is the way to resolve issues there. To involve everyone in a person's guild for that one PK'ers actions is unfair to them, unless the guild itself is a "PK" guild or something.



Spot on!

This part made me laugh out loud: "If you had a friend who was killed by one of these KP-happy PKers, I doubt you'd tell them "its how they choose to play the game""



Yea! Protect that poor mage. I know how it is. lol



Added! =)



Who ya gonna call? Ghost busters!

Err.. Distyn! =D



First off your bombastic tone sorely tempts me to start an elitist PK guild of high level players and supply all its members with large amounts of sparkcash.


I won't of course because quite frankly I have better things to do with my time and money.

Besides, you're nitpicking, you're opting to throw out a few definitions in an attempt to make me look like a fool and you failed.

" I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?":

shall I explain this very simple statement for you? I think I will, only I'll break down the whole statement, and not just hand pick a word or two.

Basically, and I'll use small words, I meant that I knew ahead of time that some people would find my post offensive, BUT that was not the main purpose of my post, the main purpose of my post was merely to address the one I quoted.


Second, yes it is a FACT that anyone can opt to be a PK, a PKK, or neither.

FACT: I can opt to kill as many or as few players as I want in the abyss.
This is not something I actually do, but it is indisputable, that if I choose to make use of one of this games features, such as the abyss pvp, I CAN.

Just because you think something is wrong doesn't mean you can dispute it

Also I never contradicted myself, the FACT that people have the free will to be PK, PKK, or neither, IS NOT CONTRADICTED by my opinion that people should handle their own problems.

Really where did you learn to analyze?


Third, yes its true you never said all PKers, in fact all you said was "PKers",
heres the quote:
There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to."

See what I mean, you never specified how many you meant. You could have meant some, or most, or a few, or ALL.

A bit of advice, fix your own house before pointing out the flaws in your neighbors.

Now personally I think you have an overdeveloped sense of self righteousness , at least thats how you came off in the first post I quoted. In this one you were just flat out rude.

And to all of you who throw out guild names saying that they are PK guilds, SHUSSSS YOUR MOUTHS, unless a guild actually states that it is a PK guild you have no business throwing em out there.

If I missed anything-too bad-I have a life, and I don't care to frequent the forums.

and just FYI, if you had replied like a normal person, like YoshimaruOrona for example, I wouldn't have been so snipe.
With me people get back what they give, so to put it simply, if you're rude in a response to me( which you were, the excessive definitions were a clear attack on my intelligence), then I'll be rude to you-yes I'm aware that is juvenile, but it is a FACT, that I can be juvenile if I want.

zamorak265
01-26-2009, 06:58 PM
ign: _dark_tanker_

class: end pure tank

level:30 (at time check my siggy for current)

speciality: taking a massive beating (i don't stand pker's)

note: will not be in abyss for 10 lvls won't see much of me until later

:)

the_hurtfull
01-26-2009, 09:52 PM
Count me in


IGN(s): Painfull / Hurtfull / Dreadfull / AntiHurtfull
Class: Fighter
Level: 88 (refuse to cap)
Specialty: End build fighter (not pure anymore but will be again soon enough), maxes at 9.5k fully buffed with a cleric blue-set buff (9.1k usually) but without my wife in pt. No +9 boots or hat, but 2.6k with cleric in pt (2k without).
Note: I spend a lot fo time in the new dungeon (Dragon's Tomb) and in the forums working on my guide.

IGN(s): Hurtfull / Painfull / AntiHurtfull / Dreadfull
Class: Mage
Level: 62
Specialty: DD build (int/spr), super super squishy, but massive damage.
Note: My +9 wand is on loan atm.

AParadiseLost
01-30-2009, 10:19 PM
Any PKKers for abyss 2x?

YoshimaruOrona
01-30-2009, 10:40 PM
IGN(s): Motoko_Kusunagi
Level: 30(shhh)
Class: Fighter
Specialty: 1.7k hp with a T1 vit and buff...nuff said


There's one.

According to Buster's siggy, he supposedly has a PKKer designed for 2x abyss.

Here's (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1453784&postcount=16) the post with his char info. Maybe he'll help out.

My personal 2x abyss PKKer isn't ready yet. Lv 32 atm but no +9 equipment so he's nothing more than reinforced paper right now x_x

AParadiseLost
01-31-2009, 03:44 AM
There's one.

According to Buster's siggy, he supposedly has a PKKer designed for 2x abyss.

Here's (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1453784&postcount=16) the post with his char info. Maybe he'll help out.

My personal 2x abyss PKKer isn't ready yet. Lv 32 atm but no +9 equipment so he's nothing more than reinforced paper right now x_x

Im in Buster's academy D:, and I haven't gotten a response from him, it's no biggie, I'm done with 2x abyss now, was just curious if there was any PKK's for it in Epith. I've never seen one in there, and I was there very often. Unless PKK's and PK's are friendly in there O.O

spectershadow
02-02-2009, 11:58 AM
lvl 56 full +9 hybrid warrior :D

checking in as a pk'er

id love to take you all on ;D

mazeone
02-02-2009, 02:25 PM
IGN :MPCking
Level: 86
Class:Archer
Specialty: I can balance a twinkie on my nose..No qualms about killing a PK'er and hearing em scream...^^

borednl
02-03-2009, 02:33 AM
Count me in


IGN(s): Painfull / Hurtfull / Dreadfull / AntiHurtfull
Class: Fighter
Level: 88 (refuse to cap)
Specialty: End build fighter (not pure anymore but will be again soon enough), maxes at 9.5k fully buffed with a cleric blue-set buff (9.1k usually) but without my wife in pt. No +9 boots or hat, but 2.6k with cleric in pt (2k without).
Note: I spend a lot fo time in the new dungeon (Dragon's Tomb) and in the forums working on my guide.

IGN(s): Hurtfull / Painfull / AntiHurtfull / Dreadfull
Class: Mage
Level: 62
Specialty: DD build (int/spr), super super squishy, but massive damage.
Note: My +9 wand is on loan atm.


Added, welcome! =)

IGN :MPCking
Level: 86
Class:Archer
Specialty: I can balance a twinkie on my nose..No qualms about killing a PK'er and hearing em scream...^^

Ah, a twinkie balancer. I am more of the spoon variety of balancers. Welcome though. :)


Any PKKers for abyss 2x?

Unfortunately a lot of people aren't too well organized yet in their 20's, so they won't frequent the forums much to join threads such as this.

Also, since there are people who explicitly make lvl36 characters with full +9's on just for 20 abyss (oftentimes using charms as well, so they are the equivalent of a lvl46 fighter for damage and 56 fighter for defense). It would probably end in horrible death, even if they did organize. lol

I would definitely encourage our fellow PKK'ers to build level 36 characters for use in lvl20 abyss though. Right now I'm working on a pure STR archer with +9's (no charms, so his purpose isn't necessarily to kill lvl 36 fighter PK'ers, but to kite them everywhere. My archer lives to annoy. lol)

First off your bombastic tone sorely tempts me to start an elitist PK guild of high level players and supply all its members with large amounts of sparkcash.


I won't of course because quite frankly I have better things to do with my time and money.

Besides, you're nitpicking, you're opting to throw out a few definitions in an attempt to make me look like a fool and you failed.

" I don't intend to be offensive, but what kind of nonsense is this?":

shall I explain this very simple statement for you? I think I will, only I'll break down the whole statement, and not just hand pick a word or two.

Basically, and I'll use small words, I meant that I knew ahead of time that some people would find my post offensive, BUT that was not the main purpose of my post, the main purpose of my post was merely to address the one I quoted.


Second, yes it is a FACT that anyone can opt to be a PK, a PKK, or neither.

FACT: I can opt to kill as many or as few players as I want in the abyss.
This is not something I actually do, but it is indisputable, that if I choose to make use of one of this games features, such as the abyss pvp, I CAN.

Just because you think something is wrong doesn't mean you can dispute it

Also I never contradicted myself, the FACT that people have the free will to be PK, PKK, or neither, IS NOT CONTRADICTED by my opinion that people should handle their own problems.

Really where did you learn to analyze?


Third, yes its true you never said all PKers, in fact all you said was "PKers",
heres the quote:
There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to."

See what I mean, you never specified how many you meant. You could have meant some, or most, or a few, or ALL.

A bit of advice, fix your own house before pointing out the flaws in your neighbors.

Now personally I think you have an overdeveloped sense of self righteousness , at least thats how you came off in the first post I quoted. In this one you were just flat out rude.

And to all of you who throw out guild names saying that they are PK guilds, SHUSSSS YOUR MOUTHS, unless a guild actually states that it is a PK guild you have no business throwing em out there.

If I missed anything-too bad-I have a life, and I don't care to frequent the forums.

and just FYI, if you had replied like a normal person, like YoshimaruOrona for example, I wouldn't have been so snipe.
With me people get back what they give, so to put it simply, if you're rude in a response to me( which you were, the excessive definitions were a clear attack on my intelligence), then I'll be rude to you-yes I'm aware that is juvenile, but it is a FACT, that I can be juvenile if I want.

Do I hear something? There's some sort of buzzing noise.

No but really, after I read your first meaningless threat and then you started talking about using "small words," I decided to spare my brain the rest of your message.

metalfyre
02-03-2009, 02:36 AM
I have a PKKer for 2x abyss...

borednl
02-03-2009, 02:42 AM
I have a PKKer for 2x abyss...


I have other alts specifically for PKK-ing, especially in the 2x and 5x abyss where these things are much more rampant. I won't list them here, but if you can get me on my fighter I should be able to help ;)

Ah, I forgot about your note here. Are you sure you wouldn't like to list them here?

It's just that most people won't read through the entire listing to search for notes that might explain that the person has a PKK character for 2x abyss.

I could create another listing for you, using your main's IGN and list it as a lvl36 character, with a note "This IGN is my main, I am not listing my lvl20 abyss PKK IGN here" or something. What do you say?

elisagiven
02-03-2009, 06:10 AM
Any PKKers for abyss 2x?

pm me here I have a 67 archer so I have exp with archers and im building a now 21 archer w/ dex and spr ( kiting will be fun fun =) but i will give ya her name in pm only (let's sneak this one in on them)
BTW add XJenovaX 67 scout to the list of my char now pls you can find me on her most of the time but i can come to any of my others for help. you shuld have these.
BadBoy_Killa 83
_Peaches_ pure END tank
Critical_Magic 44 mage (squshy but be ok in 30)
and now mighty XJenovaX 67 Scout and Hubby Essein also 67 Scout (she loves to kite your running a** <3)

hiro9
02-03-2009, 06:30 AM
I have been a PKK'er and a PvP'er since i started the game I think its gerat that others are helping those in need and im not the only one. It is rude and mean for people to pk people if they can't defend themselves as well if you attack them for no reason; with the acception of that person being your friend. I go to lvl 20 abyss in serch of abyss pk'ers than i Pwn them with my mage because my mage is extremely powerful for his lvl i can kill all types with ease even those who are higher lvl than me which makes me a great PKK'er.

Type: Mage
Name: Carsow
Lvl: 33
Title: Celebrity.
stats:

STR: +0
END: +4
DEX: +2
INT: +32
SPR: +40

Crit rate: 35%
Kill Points: 255 (all of which came from killing pkers)

all armor green with godly +5 pet (perminent)
godly neclace of roumen
and godly earings and rings.

Saruin
02-03-2009, 09:45 AM
Update on Vicious
Lvl 70

Thanks.

manahar
02-05-2009, 03:13 AM
IGN: HonoR_Enchanter
Class: Mage
Level: 33 =.=
Specialty: lot of dmg and critical can kill fighter of my own lvl and a bit higer sometimes
note: spend time talking:p

gigibunny
02-05-2009, 09:53 AM
Though I may not be much help, my main can AOE pretty good...

here goes:

IGN(s): Gigee
Class: Scout Archer
Level: 65
Specialty: I am a DD ~ +25 SPR and the rest on STR, +9 lvl 60 Bow and etc.
Note: I am focusing on my main right now and ask my guildies, I drop anything to help out friends... I love helping people out so just let me know and if ya can't, that is fine too =D

spheris
02-05-2009, 11:02 AM
Added, welcome! =)



Ah, a twinkie balancer. I am more of the spoon variety of balancers. Welcome though. :)




Unfortunately a lot of people aren't too well organized yet in their 20's, so they won't frequent the forums much to join threads such as this.

Also, since there are people who explicitly make lvl36 characters with full +9's on just for 20 abyss (oftentimes using charms as well, so they are the equivalent of a lvl46 fighter for damage and 56 fighter for defense). It would probably end in horrible death, even if they did organize. lol

I would definitely encourage our fellow PKK'ers to build level 36 characters for use in lvl20 abyss though. Right now I'm working on a pure STR archer with +9's (no charms, so his purpose isn't necessarily to kill lvl 36 fighter PK'ers, but to kite them everywhere. My archer lives to annoy. lol)



Do I hear something? There's some sort of buzzing noise.

No but really, after I read your first meaningless threat and then you started talking about using "small words," I decided to spare my brain the rest of your message.

Truely amusing, your inability to come up with an adaquate response only proves you cant admit when you're wrong.

And make no mistake, the thing about the elitist pk guild was no idle threat, for that matter it wasn't a threat at all. It was merely a statement expressing what your obnoxious tone was tempting me to do.

Now I really must say under normal circumstances I wouldn't, but because of your attitude I think I will.

Two new guilds, one for average PKs, and one for elite PKs whos purpose is to hunt down and kill any and all PKKs they come across.

YoshimaruOrona
02-05-2009, 11:25 AM
Truely amusing, your inability to come up with an adaquate response only proves you cant admit when you're wrong.

And make no mistake, the thing about the elitist pk guild was no idle threat, for that matter it wasn't a threat at all. It was merely a statement expressing what your obnoxious tone was tempting me to do.

Now I really must say under normal circumstances I wouldn't, but because of your attitude I think I will.

Two new guilds, one for average PKs, and one for elite PKs whos purpose is to hunt down and kill any and all PKKs they come across.

So, just for my reference, your elite guild will more or less live to annoy those of us on this list? And by doing so ... it will prove a point to borednl?

If I get it wrong, my apologies. I'm trying to figure out what the point is considering somebody from another server frustrated you.

spheris
02-05-2009, 11:33 AM
So, just for my reference, your elite guild will more or less live to annoy those of us on this list? And by doing so ... it will prove a point to borednl?

If I get it wrong, my apologies. I'm trying to figure out what the point is considering somebody from another server frustrated you.

Well my hope is for this to spread to every server like the plague, be it by my hand or someone elses.

And the general idea of having both PK guilds, and PKK executioner guilds, is to not only make more work for the PKK, but to make it more difficult.

Really I wouldn't even be doing this if borednl had acted his age, as opposed to trying to make me look like an ignorant fool.

spectershadow
02-05-2009, 12:01 PM
hello

pk'er checking in, if you see me, fairly challenge me to a 1v1 to show that i will destroy you anywere anytime

=3

YoshimaruOrona
02-05-2009, 12:33 PM
Well my hope is for this to spread to every server like the plague, be it by my hand or someone elses.

And the general idea of having both PK guilds, and PKK executioner guilds, is to not only make more work for the PKK, but to make it more difficult.

Really I wouldn't even be doing this if borednl had acted his age, as opposed to trying to make me look like an ignorant fool.

I see.

In that case, I guess we just let the chips fall where they may. (or however the damn saying goes @.@)




hello

pk'er checking in, if you see me, fairly challenge me to a 1v1 to show that i will destroy you anywere anytime

=3

Isnt this the second time you checked in now? .-.

I'd challenge you to 1v1, if it werent for my no-sc thing that I have going on with my lv40+ characters. No sc for me = auto-win for you ;o

spheris
02-05-2009, 02:15 PM
I see.

In that case, I guess we just let the chips fall where they may. (or however the damn saying goes @.@)






Isnt this the second time you checked in now? .-.

I'd challenge you to 1v1, if it werent for my no-sc thing that I have going on with my lv40+ characters. No sc for me = auto-win for you ;o


XD I know the phrase you're talkin about, but I'm not sure how it goes ._.

And like wow, congrats on 89 without sc XD

YoshimaruOrona
02-05-2009, 11:10 PM
XD I know the phrase you're talkin about, but I'm not sure how it goes ._.

And like wow, congrats on 89 without sc XD


-googles-
"Let the chips fall where they may"
I knew it lol >_o


And thankies =D

borednl
02-09-2009, 02:40 PM
Truely amusing, your inability to come up with an adaquate response only proves you cant admit when you're wrong.

And make no mistake, the thing about the elitist pk guild was no idle threat, for that matter it wasn't a threat at all. It was merely a statement expressing what your obnoxious tone was tempting me to do.

Now I really must say under normal circumstances I wouldn't, but because of your attitude I think I will.

Two new guilds, one for average PKs, and one for elite PKs whos purpose is to hunt down and kill any and all PKKs they come across.

There's this buzzing noise again.. Hmm.. Maybe I'll have to get out a can of raid or something..

For everyone else: I will be adding you and updating the list later. I have to go back to work again today.. argh.. Oh well. Remember to have fun, this is a game! :)

spheris
02-10-2009, 05:32 PM
There's this buzzing noise again.. Hmm.. Maybe I'll have to get out a can of raid or something..

For everyone else: I will be adding you and updating the list later. I have to go back to work again today.. argh.. Oh well. Remember to have fun, this is a game! :)

For 25 you're unbelievably juvenile...

borednl
02-10-2009, 11:35 PM
For 25 you're unbelievably juvenile...

Please, no insults! It hurts.. it hurts..

pm me here I have a 67 archer so I have exp with archers and im building a now 21 archer w/ dex and spr ( kiting will be fun fun =) but i will give ya her name in pm only (let's sneak this one in on them)
BTW add XJenovaX 67 scout to the list of my char now pls you can find me on her most of the time but i can come to any of my others for help. you shuld have these.
BadBoy_Killa 83
_Peaches_ pure END tank
Critical_Magic 44 mage (squshy but be ok in 30)
and now mighty XJenovaX 67 Scout and Hubby Essein also 67 Scout (she loves to kite your running a** <3)

Hmm, that was a little confusing to read, but I think I got it. lol. I added your archer, but would you like me to add a specialty or note to the listing?


I have been a PKK'er and a PvP'er since i started the game I think its gerat that others are helping those in need and im not the only one. It is rude and mean for people to pk people if they can't defend themselves as well if you attack them for no reason; with the acception of that person being your friend. I go to lvl 20 abyss in serch of abyss pk'ers than i Pwn them with my mage because my mage is extremely powerful for his lvl i can kill all types with ease even those who are higher lvl than me which makes me a great PKK'er.

Type: Mage
Name: Carsow
Lvl: 33
Title: Celebrity.
stats:

STR: +0
END: +4
DEX: +2
INT: +32
SPR: +40

Crit rate: 35%
Kill Points: 255 (all of which came from killing pkers)

all armor green with godly +5 pet (perminent)
godly neclace of roumen
and godly earings and rings.

Welcome welcome. :) NICE CRIT! =D

Update on Vicious
Lvl 70

Thanks.

Updated! =)

IGN: HonoR_Enchanter
Class: Mage
Level: 33 =.=
Specialty: lot of dmg and critical can kill fighter of my own lvl and a bit higer sometimes
note: spend time talking:p

Ah, nice to see a 3x mage spanking some fighter tail. :)

Though I may not be much help, my main can AOE pretty good...

here goes:

IGN(s): Gigee
Class: Scout Archer
Level: 65
Specialty: I am a DD ~ +25 SPR and the rest on STR, +9 lvl 60 Bow and etc.
Note: I am focusing on my main right now and ask my guildies, I drop anything to help out friends... I love helping people out so just let me know and if ya can't, that is fine too =D

Welcome to the fold, good sir. :)

So, just for my reference, your elite guild will more or less live to annoy those of us on this list? And by doing so ... it will prove a point to borednl?

If I get it wrong, my apologies. I'm trying to figure out what the point is considering somebody from another server frustrated you.

We're not dealing with a rocket scientist here. More like a horse fly that buzzes around and bites random people for no apparent reason. I find it easier just to wear insect repellent, then ignore the buzzing.

If I were you, I wouldn't really fear much from this guy. He will find that even if he gets a few so-called "elite" people to join his "PK guild," for each person in the guild, they will rack up 10's of enemies, becoming outnumbered very quickly. They will be warred constantly by larger, more powerful guilds. None of their members will be able to level. And before they know it, they become enemies with even themselves, because they will realize that they have only themselves and each other to blame.

I have yet to see any PK guild last longer than a week or two.

gigibunny
02-11-2009, 04:57 AM
Welcome to the fold, good sir. :)

Sir??

Now that is funny as I assure you, not only do I play a girl character, but I am a woman :) so thanks?? heheheh :o

allh0pelost
02-11-2009, 06:15 AM
bored, add meh to the list!

IGN(s): Uyoku
Level: 7x soon to be 8x
Class: Cleric
Specialty: I'm pretty much useless right now, just wait til i'm 85. xD Max power/cool on Heal, Max power on Rejuve, working on cooldown.

borednl
02-22-2009, 04:20 PM
Sir??

Now that is funny as I assure you, not only do I play a girl character, but I am a woman :) so thanks?? heheheh :o

Ooops! Hmm.. I don't want to call you "ma'am" either, so I will just say..

Welcome fair maiden. *bows and kisses your hand* My humble apologies. :)

bored, add meh to the list!

IGN(s): Uyoku
Level: 7x soon to be 8x
Class: Cleric
Specialty: I'm pretty much useless right now, just wait til i'm 85. xD Max power/cool on Heal, Max power on Rejuve, working on cooldown.

Added! :)

And.. no cleric is useless! Clerics rock! :P

socialkiller
02-23-2009, 06:42 PM
Pkk<--- also

borednl
03-11-2009, 02:38 AM
*yaawn* maintenance.. so long.

Hmm, I should be sleeping.

Wait a second.. Why am I writing this reply..

WHY AM I HERE!

Oh yea. More people, more people! Keep the ball rolling. :)

ryan52
03-29-2009, 01:37 PM
I'll join
IGN(s)
ryan52
level: 6X soon 7X
class: archer
Specialty: much hp and def

ryan52isback
level: 45
class: fighter
Specialty: able to take and deal dmg

justdiealready
level: 31
class: mage
Specialty: pure int with end gears

ryan_52
level: 31
class: cleric
specialty: spam healing

borednl
04-14-2009, 11:32 PM
It is time to reveal the Elite PKK Squad. Check it out! No PK'ers will stand a chance guys! http://tinyurl.com/ElitePKKers

Edit: I'm adding your characters now Ryan. :) Welcome welcome!

Saruin
04-14-2009, 11:55 PM
btw Vicious is 80 now P:

Also, I saw you in Apoline last time I went to visit Jonnoh ;D

YoshimaruOrona
04-15-2009, 12:29 AM
Lol this thread is well overdue for a much needed update by me.

IGN(s): Orona_Neechan / Orona_Kun / Orona / Orona_Sensei
Class: Archer
Level: 75 (Leveling him atm, so this number will be changing every day or so)
Specialty: None in particular. He's 25 spr, rest end, so he has an abnormally high hp for most archers (3033 HP unbuffed atm). Good for dealing with fighters (provided I have cleric support, or I'll eventually be overpowered, even with buffs).

And a new addition...


IGN(s): Orona_Sensei / Orona_Kun / Orona_Neechan / Orona
Class: Mage
Level: 60
Specialty: None in particular. END build; therefore I have relatively weak damage. However, I do carry high INT gears with him to try and compensate for the loss when it's safe to equip them. I also have a stock of t2 concentration scrolls with me; I use them sparingly, but depending on the situation, I might use them for a little PKK'ing.

hcoolz
04-17-2009, 12:32 PM
This is soo pointless, the worst pkers are on top guilds and charmed as hell so goin to gang them is useless, just pk them if u can or just make a thread and blacklist them, but guts are required to do that and most players talk but dont act. BYe bye

AParadiseLost
04-17-2009, 06:06 PM
the worst pkers are on top guilds and charmed as hell and most players talk but dont act.

Very True.

oojosh-oo
04-19-2009, 01:28 AM
can i join? :o
Name: xKaKaShi_GuRuNgx
Class: Fighter
Level: 47
Specialty: me pure end with axe+9 allllll end armour i hit 3k+ hp with nuuu scrolls or cleric buffs but ofcours extender =.=" but i got about 1k+def when charmed XD
thats kinda it....

spheris
04-19-2009, 02:40 PM
This is soo pointless, the worst pkers are on top guilds and charmed as hell so goin to gang them is useless, just pk them if u can or just make a thread and blacklist them, but guts are required to do that and most players talk but dont act. BYe bye

Very True.


AND!!!! those same top guilds are the one with the majority of the helgaits..

*cough, know what that means? ;P *cough

josephm123456
04-26-2009, 06:40 PM
I'll give it a go :D

IGN(s): Katrina123456789
Class: Fighter
Level: 61
Specialty: Getting Teamed: Can Be Teamed By 2 Lvl 60 Fighters(i love being teamed :D)

philiplr
05-03-2009, 03:21 AM
I'm sorry, but BoredNL (the creator of this thread) was banned permanently from these forums without warning for posting a joke thread on April fools day and so he cannot update this thread any longer, unless his ban from the forums is removed.

He was banned from the forums because he posted a link to a youtube video that wasn't about Fiesta. (it wasn't offensive, sexual, or anything of that nature, it was just a goofy 80's music video.)

He did submit a ticket, as he felt it was rather unfair to be permanently banned from the forums. They didn't even remove the link from the forums. The customer service person simply told him that he was banned from the forums. (which he already knew, which was *sort of* the reason for submitting the ticket) He sent a reply to that asking for more clarification and for reconsideration of the ban, which was ignored. 4 days after receiving no reply, he sent another reply. 5 days later now, that email has remained ignored as well. 13 days after the ban, there is no further explanation from the Outspark customer service staff except that he was banned from the forums.

If you'd like to show some support, I created a thread here about it: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=197381

The CL's did respond to this post showing the forum rule, which states that links which don't point to content related to outspark will be removed. (However, they didn't show any part of the rules that would indicate a person could be permanently banned without warning for such a thing)

gog-o
05-03-2009, 02:15 PM
IGN(s):Pippin_Took
Class: Fighter
Level: 44 (to 46, then pause)
Speciality: Tank, 2.1k hp(edited, i wrote def instead xD) with no scorllz/buff, 560def with shield and 1h...
Note: Known in abyss 30, just whis if u need help..
Bonus: I can dance happy feet ^o^

powerlevelme
05-06-2009, 11:23 AM
PK'er or PKK'ers please do as my name says in 20 abyss..


IGN: PKME


Thanks

Luctia
05-06-2009, 02:33 PM
o.o" Lawl. I wish we had this on Teva.. I would have hopped on in two seconds..

Not saying I wouldn't now. D:

IGN(s): Epicia
Class: Archer
Level: 60 (I plan on leveling soon, I promise.) @.@
Speciality: I'm a DD. So I hit hard. :3 Harhar.
Note: I might not always be avaliable. D: So please don't spam me.

hcoolz
05-06-2009, 08:22 PM
lol philip if isn`t about cash outspark wont move a finger, my wife got hacked and i had to recover her account with lots of sc in it ( WON`T TELL HOW ) because CSR were 2 busy ONE WEEK doing...ehrmm nothing? just replying some nonsense that was not of any help, 1 ADVICE FOR CSR. Check IP of the REAL user on the days before the hack then track down the new ip of the hacker and... DO SOMETHING, it is not really hard lol, anyways i did all the job and got her acc back, btw i saw some ppl who posted a link and just got a warning or asked to edit, so who knows, now the solution they gave was `` post from other acc`` nice costumer service lol. Sometimes silence helps more than a reply...in outspark world xD.

ethercloud7
10-11-2009, 09:12 PM
IGN(s): Ethercloud3
Class: Fighter
Level: 46
Speciality: DD pure str build end/str gears, +9 ggk all t1-t3 scrolls/pots (what ever is necessary)
Note: I might not always be available, I'm usually on my mage if on Whisper Ethercloud2, but if you need help I usually camp my shop out side portal to cp, I'm bound to see if you leave me a whisper.

sasuke_uchiha94
10-11-2009, 10:44 PM
Necro ~.~
[10 chars]

boo18white
10-12-2009, 03:03 AM
lol Thundy, always the 1st to jump at necros.

DIE Threadddddddd -stabs-

asifwaqfi
10-12-2009, 03:57 AM
good idea, will i wish there is 1 on Epith, will that would satisfy my PvP desires ^^
except it will make u start using Teva at early lvls :P

sasuke_uchiha94
10-12-2009, 11:16 AM
lol Thundy, always the 1st to jump at necros.

DIE Threadddddddd -stabs-

Srry, My Radar went off so....xD

-Helps Stab- >D

aaya574
10-13-2009, 04:57 PM
IGN:OneToLove
Lvl:72
Reason:Those nubs annoy me... PK'ing lower lvl chars... IT PISSES ME OFF! D:<

weird_teen24
10-14-2009, 02:47 PM
well i might as well, i kinda pkk'd in my 20x days, and its some way to get kill points without it being a bad thing XD
IGN: __virgil__
Class: Fighter
Level: 48
Specialty: pure end, and i got some greens and an sc suit right now
note: i may be afk, or helping some dude with tower or something, so i may not be always available

zipiouch
10-14-2009, 02:47 PM
stop necroing e.e

soul_eater2
10-14-2009, 03:03 PM
PK'ing is an aspect of fiesta that some people enjoy doing. This thread really has no point because by becoming a pkker, you're basically becoming a pker yourself. Calling yourself a 'hero' and killing pkers in abyss is really no different than a pker killing a low lvls in abyss. It's one's own decision if they want to go to high level abysses and grind rather than gaining exp other ways.

Also, by creating pkkers your creating more pkers which contradicts the entire point of this thread...

joaocaveira
10-14-2009, 03:20 PM
Well if u hate pkers fight me >D and tony ;o (iGhost) bro in law =p pkers ftw!~

shevchenko.7
10-16-2009, 06:38 AM
buahahah

Name: shevchenko7
Class: Warrior
Level:70
Speciality: secret but i can say im full +9 tanker
and i don't lvl and lost my soul in the 6-7 x abyss noobs

jadedeepfire
10-16-2009, 11:12 AM
In before locking for necro

devin_nicolai
10-16-2009, 01:21 PM
But killing is fun.
Necro c8

Lupse
10-17-2009, 03:19 AM
In before the lock too =D *cough* necro

josephm123456
10-18-2009, 04:03 PM
i guess im a one of a kind pker :o i pk and pkk :O

IGN: Katrina123456789
Class: Fighter
Level: 71
Specialty: Wins almost all my fights in 6x and 7x abyss :D :P

angryrabbit
05-10-2010, 10:07 AM
uh i'm not that strong,buy i can try to help u :o
IGN: DamageRabbit
Class:mage
level: 73 atm,im lvling slowly ::p
speciality: running away :rolleyes:

gigibunny
05-10-2010, 12:04 PM
omg ._. please please pay attention to the dates ... if is from last year, it is safe to say that you would be necroing the thread if you posted on it...which you did...

:o thank you

Shadowic2
05-10-2010, 12:29 PM
Please do not Necro-Post.

-Closed-