Defenders of Abyss - PKK'ers check in here.

[borednl]

Edit: This page can be used as an easy reference by using the following link: http://tinyurl.com/BijouPKK

There is now an obvious threat of PK'ers in abyss who kill people 10 levels below them just for fun. PK'ers have had it easy in abyss because many people can't seek the help they need. They have had nowhere to turn to.

And so.. I'm creating this thread.

For you PKK'ers out there who are willing to join forces and help, list your IGN, class, level, and specialty here so that you can be called upon when PK'ers run amok in the various abysses.

Tell your friends, guild members, academy members, or whomever about this thread so PK'ers will have a run for their money. :)

To sign up use the format of the following example (this is for 2 characters, list them separately so the list can be sorted by level):


IGN(s): BoredNL / Bringer_of_Death
Class: Mage
Level: 75
Specialty: PVP/AOE mank (1.3k DEF w/cleric) + Full Intellect Blues, Can keep someone feared for 17.5 seconds
Note: I vendor often, so if I don't respond, sorry but I'm not there. :)

IGN: Bringer_of_Death / BoredNL
Class: Fighter
Level: 48
Specialty: STR/END Tank (1.1k DEF w/cleric - I can survive attacks from 6x fighters indefinitely)

I will maintain a list here as the 1st reply to the thread.

To make it clear what a PK'er, PKK'er, and PVP'ers are, I will define them here. I will also issue a suggested protocol for PKK'ers to follow here.

PK'er: A character who goes to abyss just to kill other players. Usually they use words like "nub" a lot, are fighters wielding axes, and only attack people in abyss that is 10 levels below them.
Note: Some of these people are not mean-spirited and will not spawn kill endlessly, but some will. Either way, if they attack you unprovoked, kill you in abyss and you want them dead, then this thread is for you.

PKK'er: A character who will go to abyss sometimes just to kill PK'ers. Sometimes they will sit in abyss guarding the entrance. The moment they see a PK'er attack someone randomly, they attack the PK'er. We also make ourselves available to other players who need help. A PKK'er might not be a PKK for noble reasons. Maybe they are just looking for a challenge and they see PK'ers as a challenge. Most PKK'ers however, like myself, do it to help other players.

PVP'er: A person who battles in the Battle Zones often and sometimes challenges others to 1v1 duels in abyss. This person doesn't have to be a PK or PKK'er. They don't fight unless the other person or party has agreed to the fight.

Protocol: Don't let yourself be duped. When called on to help, make sure you are actually killing a PK'er before doing so, otherwise you are actually being a PK'er. It is up to you who you decide to help though. PKK'ing is not about helping level 4x people grind in level 6x abyss, it's about righting wrongs. If you feel that a level 4x has no place in level 6x abyss, then don't help one who has been PK'ed there. It's up to you how and who you want to help.

Note: I am from Apoline and cannot help on your server, but because of the success I've had there I decided to create threads here and on Epith. Here are links to the other server PKK threads: Apoline (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581) Epith (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135227) Teva (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133489)

[borednl]

Defenders of Abyss (5 characters):


IGN(s): soulraikion / HanaiChirin
Lvl: 68
Class: Paladin
Speciality: Hardwearing, hardly gives up, friendly, respects those around me and listens before thinking whether the justice needs to be dealt out. Doesn't really care if they're high levels they're gonna go down and meet their match one day ;) Oh & i absolutely {almost all} pwn lvl 1-74 mages :P

IGN(s): Felliere
Class: Paladin
Level: 67
Specialty: Full-support, tactical healer, but poor attack skills. Will win by either outlasting the opponent or with pure luck, lol.
Note: Prefers to be partied with either a Mage/Fighter for PvP (so if you want a definite win, have a similar-leveled partner chosen from the list). Focus is on healing and keeping the party alive. Will avenge those being harassed, not one or two-time kills.

IGN(s): Niervash
Class: Fighter
Level: 64
Specialty: pvp kq champion 10times in a row - Can handle 50 and 40 abyss

IGN(s): HanaiChirin / soulraikion
Level: 47
Class: Fighter
Speciality: Hardwearing, hardly gives up, friendly, respects those around me and listens before thinking whether the justice needs to be dealt out. Doesn't really care if they're high levels they're gonna go down and meet their match one day ;)

IGN(s): Tian_Long
Class: Fighter
Level: 36
Specialty: PVP/PVE tanking DD - high defense from armor and a +9 axe for good attack, most helpful in 10-36 abyss, though can take on lower level 4X mages and archers of the 10-46 abyss
Note: When on this character, I will be in the 20 or 30 abyss or wandering Elderine. Also, I don't avenge people that are killed once or twice in the abyss areas (it is a pvp zone, being atacked by a player is an inherent risk of the area), if someone of a much higher level is constantly seeking you out, spawn killing lower level players as they enter, or forming large parties to attack lone players, I will step in to help

[Orchids_Mantis]

I hope I'm doing this right


IGN: Tian_Long
Class: Fighter
Level: 36
Specialty: Tanking DD- high DEF armor and +9 axe. Can take on low 4x mages and archers.
Note: I don't avenge people who are killed once or twice in the abyss areas (being atacked is an inherent risk of the area). I will kill higher lvl spawn killers and teamers though.


Note: When on this character, I will be in the 20 or 30 abyss or wandering Elderine.

[feebz2]

ummm...this may work for every abyss but the 7x and the 8x, but I like the effort.

[jinbo]

Ign-Niervash
lvl-54
about me-pvp kq champion 10times in a row
cn handle 50 and 40 abbys

[luckywalker07]

Not sure how successful this will be, but good luck

[donkster]

absolute fail, if someone doesn't want to be pked, don't go to a place where you can be pked or learn to pk yourself. I'm tired of seeing threads about people complaining about abyss, don't go in. only the people who constantly fail at something are always the one trying to change it or nerf it. I'm guessing when these people fail irl they complain and want everyone to make it easier for them. Grow the hell up seriously.


Its been said over and over again

If you do not like the abyss, do not go the hell in there.

[borednl]

I hope I'm doing this right


IGN: Tian_Long
Class: Fighter
Level: 36
Specialty: PVP/PVE tanking DD - high defense from armor and a +9 axe for good attack, most helpful in 10-36 abyss, though can take on lower level 4X mages and archers of the 10-46 abyss

Note: When on this character, I will be in the 20 or 30 abyss or wandering Elderine.

Also, I don't avenge people that are killed once or twice in the abyss areas (it is a pvp zone, being atacked by a player is an inherent risk of the area), if someone of a much higher level is constantly seeking you out, spawn killing lower level players as they enter, or forming large parties to attack lone players, I will step in to help

Yea, that's fine. Maybe a little wordy, but it'll do. Welcome. :)


ummm...this may work for every abyss but the 7x and the 8x, but I like the effort.

It works especially well for those abyss's, since higher level people tend to be the most active on the forums.


Ign-Niervash
lvl-54
about me-pvp kq champion 10times in a row
cn handle 50 and 40 abbys

Added. I'm guessing you're 64, since your signature says you're 6x, and lvl54 characters can't join PVP KQ's. Congrats on winning the PVP KQ several times in a row. :)

[Twenty-Nine_Rooks]

absolute fail, if someone doesn't want to be pked, don't go to a place where you can be pked or learn to pk yourself. I'm tired of seeing threads about people complaining about abyss, don't go in. only the people who constantly fail at something are always the one trying to change it or nerf it. I'm guessing when these people fail irl they complain and want everyone to make it easier for them. Grow the hell up seriously.


Its been said over and over again

If you do not like the abyss, do not go the hell in there.

Donk, I understand your feelings about the abyss.

However, considering that it is the most efficient place to level for many players, as well as the only place to acquire rare items like production skills, I feel that the abyss has become much more than a PvP zone. The FBZs are really the place for PKing, and since you now lose exp when killed in the abyss by another player in the abyss.

Ultimately, this is outspark's problem, because they themselves turned to abyss into a horrible mish-mash of things -grinding area, PvP, rare drop area- but regardless, I think that people should be more considerate of others in the abyss, as everyone goes into the abyss with different intentions: Some want PvP, others items and exp. I think allowing others to grind there without fear of being killed would help the community.

[borednl]

absolute fail, if someone doesn't want to be pked, don't go to a place where you can be pked or learn to pk yourself. I'm tired of seeing threads about people complaining about abyss, don't go in. only the people who constantly fail at something are always the one trying to change it or nerf it. I'm guessing when these people fail irl they complain and want everyone to make it easier for them. Grow the hell up seriously.


Its been said over and over again

If you do not like the abyss, do not go the hell in there.

This was posted in the Teva version (http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=133489&page=5) of this thread when someone like you started replying:


Trav13so consider this your warning. And to anyone else who wants to try to de-rail this thread with posts that are off-topic.

Purposely trying to derail a thread with off-topic posts and banter that could easily be taken to PM is not allowed. ....

Please refrain from such behavior in the future and try to stay on topic. If you can't, then leave this thread be.

Thank you.

This thread is for people to sign up to PKK, not complain about people who complain about abyss. This is not a complaint thread. Please keep your replies on topic and refrain from cussing, there are children who frequent these forums.

[DF001]

absolute fail, if someone doesn't want to be pked, don't go to a place where you can be pked or learn to pk yourself. I'm tired of seeing threads about people complaining about abyss, don't go in. only the people who constantly fail at something are always the one trying to change it or nerf it. I'm guessing when these people fail irl they complain and want everyone to make it easier for them. Grow the hell up seriously.


Its been said over and over again

If you do not like the abyss, do not go the hell in there.

Donkey I love you <3

[spart5]

absolute fail, if someone doesn't want to be pked, don't go to a place where you can be pked or learn to pk yourself. I'm tired of seeing threads about people complaining about abyss, don't go in. only the people who constantly fail at something are always the one trying to change it or nerf it. I'm guessing when these people fail irl they complain and want everyone to make it easier for them. Grow the hell up seriously.


Its been said over and over again

If you do not like the abyss, do not go the hell in there.

No, this saying is not helping at all, us as humans always tend to think of the better things as to the rewards of the abyss. As this clouds our minds in a tricking illusion of thoughts we want to know that the good things will happen rther than the bad and so we start to believe in it. So thinking you would get the rewards rather than being killed.

You for instants has to grow up because as something is being born that just might end the complaints(the Bijou ones atleast) you still become irratable why? because you don't want change?because you don't want people to be happy? what? nd you also become negetive towards this act of kindness. If Outspark won't listen then we will have to do it for ourselves and stick together as a community to help those who try to level. So if they allow pk and keep telling us the rewards match up with the risks(which they completely don't) then why not allow others to or an entire group or organisation to do the opposite and stand up.

They are not trying to change it as if they were going to hack into Fiesta and in someway change the abyss to a non pk zone or anything. But rather change the enviroment in a sense.

This is the first time(I think) that anyone has done this before and the results could lead to salvation so could you hold down you negetive insults toward this? Because if you had an idea that you loved so much and just hear that other people say it is a FAIL it will never work and bla bla bla would you feel so good?

By the way, this isen't a complaining thread, its a thread of action.

[Ciocolajs]

Donkey I love you <3

sounds so wroooooong...

[Orchids_Mantis]

Yea, that's fine. Maybe a little wordy, but it'll do. Welcome. :)


It's wordy because I get a lot of people asking me to take revenge for them being killed twice by a stronger player that is wandering the abyss. I'm not going to stop people from attacking other players -that is part of the abyss' challenge, I'm just trying to lower the harassment and make the PKers fight someone stronger than just the low levels that go in there.

[donkster]

Donk, I understand your feelings about the abyss.

However, considering that it is the most efficient place to level for many players, as well as the only place to acquire rare items like production skills, I feel that the abyss has become much more than a PvP zone. The FBZs are really the place for PKing, and since you now lose exp when killed in the abyss by another player in the abyss.

Ultimately, this is outspark's problem, because they themselves turned to abyss into a horrible mish-mash of things -grinding area, PvP, rare drop area- but regardless, I think that people should be more considerate of others in the abyss, as everyone goes into the abyss with different intentions: Some want PvP, others items and exp. I think allowing others to grind there without fear of being killed would help the community.


Why do you think such rewards are in the abyss? Um your suppose to compete for them. Survival of the fittest. Stop acting like just because there are good rewards that every person is entitles to them. You either go the abyss, survive, and reap the rewards, OR, you go in there, die, leave, come back when your better.

And explain how this would help the community? The abyss would be over crowded since no one is dieing. Eventually that bubble will pop and you will be right back where you started.


No, this saying is not helping at all, us as humans always tend to think of the better things as to the rewards of the abyss. As this clouds our minds in a tricking illusion of thoughts we want to know that the good things will happen rther than the bad and so we start to believe in it. So thinking you would get the rewards rather than being killed.

You for instants has to grow up because as something is being born that just might end the complaints(the Bijou ones atleast) you still become irratable why? because you don't want change?because you don't want people to be happy? what? nd you also become negetive towards this act of kindness. If Outspark won't listen then we will have to do it for ourselves and stick together as a community to help those who try to level. So if they allow pk and keep telling us the rewards match up with the risks(which they completely don't) then why not allow others to or an entire group or organisation to do the opposite and stand up.

They are not trying to change it as if they were going to hack into Fiesta and in someway change the abyss to a non pk zone or anything. But rather change the enviroment in a sense.

This is the first time(I think) that anyone has done this before and the results could lead to salvation so could you hold down you negetive insults toward this? Because if you had an idea that you loved so much and just hear that other people say it is a FAIL it will never work and bla bla bla would you feel so good?

By the way, this isen't a complaining thread, its a thread of action.

Ok, if your going to insult people, make sure you know what your talking about and learn the language your insulting in.

Now, this is not the first time a post like this has been made, Zegaii tried this little stunt and it failed. And just by making these types of thread the people who want these are in their own way complaining about them or their friends dieing in abyss.

Me posting things like this arent meant to be negative, its just that when people try this type of stunt they don't think of the ripples that it'll cause. They then themselves become hypocritical afterward. And outspark loves the players fighting in pvp, they make more money through this pvp system then most other things in game. Its not going to change so grow up and deal with it.

[borednl]

It's wordy because I get a lot of people asking me to take revenge for them being killed twice by a stronger player that is wandering the abyss. I'm not going to stop people from attacking other players -that is part of the abyss' challenge, I'm just trying to lower the harassment and make the PKers fight someone stronger than just the low levels that go in there.

I understand, I feel the same way. :)

To show you what I mean about wordy, I'll make an example here.

Wordy:
IGN(s): Tian_Long
Class: Fighter
Level: 36
Specialty: PVP/PVE tanking DD - high defense from armor and a +9 axe for good attack, most helpful in 10-36 abyss, though can take on lower level 4X mages and archers of the 10-46 abyss
Note: When on this character, I will be in the 20 or 30 abyss or wandering Elderine. Also, I don't avenge people that are killed once or twice in the abyss areas (it is a pvp zone, being atacked by a player is an inherent risk of the area), if someone of a much higher level is constantly seeking you out, spawn killing lower level players as they enter, or forming large parties to attack lone players, I will step in to help

Less Wordy:
IGN(s): Tian_Long
Class: Fighter
Level: 36
Specialty: Tanking DD- high DEF armor and +9 axe. Can take on 4x mages and archers.
Note: I don't avenge people who are killed once or twice in the abyss areas (being atacked is an inherent risk of the area). I will kill higher lvl spawn killers and teamers though.

[borednl]

Stfu John and start trolling

If you try to derail this thread how you tried in Apoline, not only will you fail, but I will report you this time.

This is not a flame thread.

[spart5]

Ok, if your going to insult people, make sure you know what your talking about and learn the language your insulting in.

Now, this is not the first time a post like this has been made, Zegaii tried this little stunt and it failed. And just by making these types of thread the people who want these are in their own way complaining about them or their friends dieing in abyss.

Me posting things like this arent meant to be negative, its just that when people try this type of stunt they don't think of the ripples that it'll cause. They then themselves become hypocritical afterward. And outspark loves the players fighting in pvp, they make more money through this pvp system then most other things in game. Its not going to change so grow up and deal with it.

Hmm, yes, indeed you would have to think it through completely. I geuss(I can't believe i'm saying this..) that one such as un-organised and not thought through properly will not succeed or be as successful as it was thought it should be.

I geuss they'll do anything for money, but thing is is the ideas come from Korea and only having one server they must have very little in the abyss so no complaints really. I wouldn't neccassariy say its Outsparks fault but more so on the circumstances of Korea, they think what is more neccassary for them because all we want is to play the game so its reasonable for them to think about their own version instead of all versions as a whole.

Thing is is that the Gms are always saying that the rewards are good enough and match up with the risks but they actualy don't, as to why i'm thinking that their still even using that saying. The risks completely outweigh the rewards,

[DF001]

If you try to derail this thread how you tried in Apoline, not only will you fail, but I will report you this time.

This is not a flame thread.

How not, if this thread is singling out a group. :3

[Ciocolajs]

abyss is hardcore <3! only meant for hardcoreness! x lawl x omgx<3

[Veloce_01]

XD OT: eld ure siggy still scares me

[Dthugtherealist]

Ok its a competition for mats and stuff yes but better to compete with people in your lvl range not people up to maybe 20 lvls higher? With BK's/Blue weps. Whats the point of going into 70 abyss and killing people that are supposed to be there and your lvl 86.... to me its absurd and an occurring trend hi lvls with nothing better to do instead of making more money or lvling they go and kill people that are supposed to be there makes no sense. Mostly I see people that go into their and kill are an absurdly high lvl and they go in with cookies extenders and SC pots the real problem in abyss is in Bijou were hi lvls seem to feel proud killing low lvls like 20 lvls under em then their like ZOMG I got my 3000th kill point from this :O whats the point if their all from killing people up to 20 lvls under you? Maybe Zegaii failed cuz he didn't get support or maybe the forums are packed with people who are hi lvled people and don't care. What do you mean by stronger? I don't think a lvl 60 fully +9ed with Godly gears with a boss wep or lvl 50 blue could take on a fighter lvl 86 with BK axe+9 come on now you'd say different if you were faced by those problems but I guess u'll never face those problems cuz you can hand out threats and have them carried out if you can't do it your self. No worries right? Come on man make a nub don't use SC or +9's and don't get your guild mates to help you see how you feel being harassed in abyss when your simply their trying to make some money and lvl. Then you'll see the view point of most of the community.

[Kealm]

Why do you think such rewards are in the abyss? Um your suppose to compete for them. Survival of the fittest. Stop acting like just because there are good rewards that every person is entitles to them. You either go the abyss, survive, and reap the rewards, OR, you go in there, die, leave, come back when your better.

And explain how this would help the community? The abyss would be over crowded since no one is dieing. Eventually that bubble will pop and you will be right back where you started.



Ok, if your going to insult people, make sure you know what your talking about and learn the language your insulting in.

Now, this is not the first time a post like this has been made, Zegaii tried this little stunt and it failed. And just by making these types of thread the people who want these are in their own way complaining about them or their friends dieing in abyss.

Me posting things like this arent meant to be negative, its just that when people try this type of stunt they don't think of the ripples that it'll cause. They then themselves become hypocritical afterward. And outspark loves the players fighting in pvp, they make more money through this pvp system then most other things in game. Its not going to change so grow up and deal with it.

First: Remove my name from your post, that's blacklisting buddy.

Second: It didn't fail, it continues to go on. Or do you guys ignore when you get pushed out of abyss and engaged from time to time?

Third: We all know you love this stuff, you're derailing the topic for your own little popularity stunt yet again, this is a sign up not a debate, now get out, or be pushed out by the cls, or get on topic.


XD OT: eld ure siggy still scares me

I know scares me too o.o, but we all love eldy and in a way it's just fitting for him.

[Flash_Bang_A_lot]

Yea we get pushed out from time to time, but the majority of the time it doesnt happen. If we get overwhelmingly outnumbered then we leave until you guys leave and start up again. It doesnt really change anything lol. No point in arguing about it because in the end, the more you send at the pkers they happier they are because thats just more points to rack up. The times you overran us is when its like 15 to 5, and I know for a fact you cant put those numbers up 24/7 so it wont ever change.

[rukian421]

IGN: soulraikion/HanaiChirin
Lvl: 68/47
Speciality: Hardwearing, hardly gives up, friendly, respects those around me and listens before thinking whether the justice needs to be dealt out. Doesn't really care if they're high levels they're gonna go down and meet their match one day ;) Oh & i absolutely {almost all} pwn lvl 1-74 mages :P

[itriedtoquit]

Emphasis added by me


Ok, if your going to insult people, make sure you know what your talking about and learn the language your insulting in.

You mean "you're," not "your."

If you're going to insult his grammar, make sure yours is proper.

[rukian421]

Rofl fail insults flying everywhere :o

[jinbo]

ZOMG, The language and grammar in here, is disgusting. Those insults are EPIC UBERFAIL

[itriedtoquit]

Haha sorry. I don't nitpick on grammar online, normally. It's not like I have a Doctorate in English or anything like that.

But donkey was picking on the other guy's English, while using faulty English of his own. Therefore, I felt it was appropriate to point it out. Gotta love the irony.

[Valentyn]

TS I admire you, you've actually bothered to do it for the server with probably the most drama due to pvp, and it isnt even your server :)

[borednl]

IGN: soulraikion/HanaiChirin
Lvl: 68/47
Speciality: Hardwearing, hardly gives up, friendly, respects those around me and listens before thinking whether the justice needs to be dealt out. Doesn't really care if they're high levels they're gonna go down and meet their match one day ;) Oh & i absolutely {almost all} pwn lvl 1-74 mages :P

Added!

You seem like a good addition to the PKK cause. (You have your head about you!) :)

[Ciocolajs]

XD OT: eld ure siggy still scares me

Lol how? ANd btw How are you? :D

[Kealm]

Yea we get pushed out from time to time, but the majority of the time it doesnt happen. If we get overwhelmingly outnumbered then we leave until you guys leave and start up again. It doesnt really change anything lol. No point in arguing about it because in the end, the more you send at the pkers they happier they are because thats just more points to rack up. The times you overran us is when its like 15 to 5, and I know for a fact you cant put those numbers up 24/7 so it wont ever change.

I enjoy pvp it's why i do it :) I don't get enjoyment out of kp and killing people who don't want to fight back. Sometimes i'm the one pushed out, sometimes i'm the one pushing out, it changes all the time. I actually enjoy the servers pvp situation atm :)

And on a side note i've never seen a 15-5 match lol when i'm involved it's ussually pretty evenly matched, even down to number of people charmed or cookied.

[borednl]

I'll share a PKK'ing story of mine here, since it went over well in the Apoline PKK thread. :)

Last night while I was power leveling a guildie (lvl48 cleric) in 6x abyss, I had a fighter run up to to me and say "follow me." I told the guildie I was with to wait at the entrance. I had no idea what was going on, so I just followed the person, since I've seen him around before. Along the way he tells me that he wants me to come kill someone before his party tried and died. I followed and was going to ask "um? What's going on?"

But then I walk into a room and suddenly this 7x fighter devastates me, a 6x fighter follows suit and a 6x mage starts attacking too. I was by myself.

I survived the first stun and started heading in the opposite direction. I asked why they were attacking me. They told me "You're a PKK'er" while chasing me. They kept triple teaming me, and got a good 6 or 7 stuns and 2 fears in before I was able to break away and throw a speed scroll on. They said, "what are you going to do, kill us? haha" as they chased after me. I said "yes, but not alone of course."

I go to FP and whisper a cleric I knew, who came immediately to help. I remove the low level guildie from the party and return to 6x abyss with the cleric to 2v3 them.

I intended to put them to shame.

So we return to where they were. I ran into the middle of their party, nova'ed and infernoed, killing a cleric they had randomly partied (who had no idea what was going on. I power leveled her after everything to make back the EXP she lost and then some). I killed one of the 6x fighters. The 7x fighter took off running, using T3 hp and hp regen pots (a scared PK'er I guess). I chased him for a bit, but then turned around and returned to kill the mage. The mage was nowhere to be found (my guess is he ran for the hills).

Then they came back with another 6x axe fighter. The cleric in their party didn't want any part of what was going on. She just sat at the entrance after spawning. The mage had just disappeared by this point. So it was 3 axe fighters vs a mage and a cleric. We start battling. I fear two fighters, then start laying into one of the fighters (who pots). Around the time both fighters come out of fear and one of the fighters lands a successful stun on me, I notice that my cleric is not healing. After 40 seconds of battle, they kill us. My cleric informs me in party chat that he was skill bugged and could not heal. Drat, gotta love those fiesta bugs..

The fighters whisper me with "ha ha, what are you going to do now?" I reply, "Kill you of course, my cleric was skill bugged and could not heal. I'm coming for you now." A 6x mage I knew randomly showed up, so I party him. We return. They see my cleric heal me and you know what they did? All 3 axe fighters took off running, potting the whole way back to the entrance. As they ran like little rats, they shouted "you're charmed! you suck!" and other insults at me. (I've never charmed)

I caught a screenshot as the last one left. Check it out:


http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z237/BoredNL/fiestapkk/12-24-20086xmage6xfighterand7xfight.jpg
(I photoshopped out the names)


This is just one example of the PK'ers I've fought in abyss and how they fight. They have no dignity and fight without honor. I have yet to come across one PK'er that would actually stay to fight a fair fight. Whenever they meet a challenge, they wimp out and run. When they team up on someone, they act like they are somehow superior.

So for those of you who think PKK'ers are the same as PK'ers, you are completely and utterly wrong.

If you are a PKK'er, keep fighting the good fight. Happy holidays. :)

[donkster]

First: Remove my name from your post, that's blacklisting buddy.

Second: It didn't fail, it continues to go on. Or do you guys ignore when you get pushed out of abyss and engaged from time to time?

Third: We all know you love this stuff, you're derailing the topic for your own little popularity stunt yet again, this is a sign up not a debate, now get out, or be pushed out by the cls, or get on topic.



I know scares me too o.o, but we all love eldy and in a way it's just fitting for him.

LOLLLLLL, If you guys are trying to ban together to kill pkers, who are good at pking, shouldn't you yourself be better? I'm mean c'mon now you guys got owned in a capped fight. Kinda pointless to make an Anti-Pking group who are bad at pking. Throwing bodies at people doesn't work. And I've only heard of you engaging ANK once, and you guys got owned. If its your group, shouldn't you be at the front?

And mentioning your name the way I did isn't black listing. I only mentioned that you already made a thread just like it. Don't try to make something out of nothing buddy.


Yea we get pushed out from time to time, but the majority of the time it doesnt happen. If we get overwhelmingly outnumbered then we leave until you guys leave and start up again. It doesnt really change anything lol. No point in arguing about it because in the end, the more you send at the pkers they happier they are because thats just more points to rack up. The times you overran us is when its like 15 to 5, and I know for a fact you cant put those numbers up 24/7 so it wont ever change.

Lol I've only seen ank pushed out when like 3-5 guilds have to band together to kill off like 6 people.


Emphasis added by me


You mean "you're," not "your."

If you're going to insult his grammar, make sure yours is proper.

Ya I admit i made that mistake, everyone does from time to time. What i was talking about was how he sounded like he was drunk talking.

[Kealm]

LOLLLLLL, If you guys are trying to ban together to kill pkers, who are good at pking, shouldn't you yourself be better? I'm mean c'mon now you guys got owned in a capped fight. Kinda pointless to make an Anti-Pking group who are bad at pking. Throwing bodies at people doesn't work. And I've only heard of you engaging ANK once, and you guys got owned. If its your group, shouldn't you be at the front?

And mentioning your name the way I did isn't black listing. I only mentioned that you already made a thread just like it. Don't try to make something out of nothing buddy.



Lol I've only seen ank pushed out when like 3-5 guilds have to band together to kill off like 6 people.



Ya I admit i made that mistake, everyone does from time to time. What i was talking about was how he sounded like he was drunk talking.

The fight you refer to was 4 lower to mid 7x and a single lower 8x archer... hardly admirable when you had numeric seniority and we still held a fight. And to top it off it wasn't a pkking fight, i litterally was talking to someone on your side and set it up. That was intended to be a friendly affair but of course you don't know how to not run your mouth so i'll forgive you for being blind. And yes i've seen you guys pushed out of abyss quite a few times, just as i have been myself in response. You only seem to appear when things are on your own benefit anyways so idk why i bother.

This past week alone i've had 6 different scraps with Ank or should i say 'Blitzkrieg'. 3 wins 3 losses. About the way the pvp arena has been as a whole lately in abyss. I don't talk trash after or during a fight, so why would you hear about it? What are people going to say 'yeah that Zegaii guy he complimented me on my crit suite'? lol at that kind of thought. Pking and anti pking is divided by a thin line. And it's more one guild vs another in there in the many different fights that break out. Though the cause is that which this topic referrs to.

Open your eyes a little. You aren't the biggest baddest guy in town, and niether am I. We're horribly off topic so we can just drop it at that.

[donkster]

The fight you refer to was 4 lower to mid 7x and a single lower 8x archer... hardly admirable when you had numeric seniority and we still held a fight. And to top it off it wasn't a pkking fight, i litterally was talking to someone on your side and set it up. That was intended to be a friendly affair but of course you don't know how to not run your mouth so i'll forgive you for being blind. And yes i've seen you guys pushed out of abyss quite a few times, just as i have been myself in response. You only seem to appear when things are on your own benefit anyways so idk why i bother.

This past week alone i've had 6 different scraps with Ank or should i say 'Blitzkrieg'. 3 wins 3 losses. About the way the pvp arena has been as a whole lately in abyss. I don't talk trash after or during a fight, so why would you hear about it? What are people going to say 'yeah that Zegaii guy he complimented me on my crit suite'? lol at that kind of thought. Pking and anti pking is divided by a thin line. And it's more one guild vs another in there in the many different fights that break out. Though the cause is that which this topic referrs to.

Open your eyes a little. You aren't the biggest baddest guy in town, and niether am I. We're horribly off topic so we can just drop it at that.

Actually the only things I saw, and i was there the entire time, was you guys getting beat and leaving, and then your members sitting there spawn killing me every time when you found out i was using whites. Very admirable.

[shihouinkyouhei]

I dun get why u have to complain about being PKed once or twice when you know the consequences of staying in a place where Rye and AnK will come for you. Know your place and go to a dungeon to train. Maybe when you are actually around that level, you can actually be a competitor or at least be enough of a challenge that you won't be worth the effort killing...

[kinsin]

when i was in ryekarayn.... i was ***pwnage pkker lawlzzzzzzzzz then i got over it, lvld and peaced out

[borednl]

Btw, Epith is kicking butt. 12 characters signed up there already. Apoline has 42 (but the thread has been around there a bit longer).

Where's your sense of justice Bijou? Come on, let's see more support here! (and less arguing and derailing of the thread.) ;)

[Orchids_Mantis]

Not all PKers or PK parties are jerks that only fight when they can win.

I police the 36 abyss a lot with my DD and have come across a number of PKers and PK parties that enjoy a hard fight -even though they lose.

The week before I left there was a party (1 fighter, 2 mages and 1 cleric and an archer) in the abyss that was killing everyone they came across. I stepped in and killed the archer, who quickly respawned and began attacking me again, I chased down the mage, the fighter stunned me and the fighter and cleric began attacking me as well. I attacked, stunned and chain skilled the cleric to kill her, then killed the fighter, then the mage. They kept coming back over and over for about five minutes before they finally stopped and laughed about it.

We talked for a bit, they kept PKing other players as they passed by (then I would kill them after a bit), but all in all, they were okay people.


There are a lot of rude and cowardly PKers in Fiesta, but some of them are pretty cool (and as I said before, I don't kill a PKer for killing a person once or twice, I kill for spawn killing, harassing, or only attacking players they can 1-hit).

[Kealm]

Actually the only things I saw, and i was there the entire time, was you guys getting beat and leaving, and then your members sitting there spawn killing me every time when you found out i was using whites. Very admirable.

i know nothing about you useing whites or not or the spawn killing, i can't remember that far back. But i guess you weren't there for the 2 hours we had been fighting prior, and the hour after that it continued :P oh well your loss. You weren't there the entire time, you showed late and went in for one fight in which some of your guildies decided to jump in and turn the 5vs5 into a 5vs7 affair, which when you're fighting people 10 lvls lower then yourselves did you expect another result? haha. Trust me, i was in abyss for 4-5 hours that day enjoying pvp with the same guild tag, and you were there for hardly 30 minutes.

[Sharlyne]

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[kinsin]

Btw, Epith is kicking butt. 12 characters signed up there already. Apoline has 42 (but the thread has been around there a bit longer).

Where's your sense of justice Bijou? Come on, let's see more support here! (and less arguing and derailing of the thread.) ;)

I'm not trying to be rude but this server has enough wanna-be police.
Bijou has no Justice, Bijou does as they please.

It's pretty fail when people act like police in this game.
I used to act like a police dog... So I am guilty of contributing to it
I couldn't play for longer than 30min without someone whispering me saying:
"OMG ANK KILLED ME IN ABYSS"
*waits for the whisper*
"fine i'll go help you..."
i'd get there and theres already an even fight, or my old guildies and other people were out numbering ANK like 7-10 on 3-5 even 15 people would be there... and 2 ank spawning in....
no you cant call me a liar, b/c i was one of the people that would show up and kill them out. call that police?

It gets worse.... I would see guild chat...
"Flash is going into abyss"
"Flash is in abyss"
"Hey Fail just went into abyss"
"Anyone want to kill ANK?"
"Is MvW there?"
on vent...
"anyone want to help kill ANK? there in abyss bullying"
BEFORE THEY EVEN DID ANYTHING, and the people who whisper me, or in gchat, or in shout.... yes it was done in shout too... then the flames would start
and you guys act like your so much better... like stormy had that picture of a cub seeing a lion in a mirror... think about it
(not flaming you stormy, just using the pic as an example... it was a funny pic)


now seriously.... i would almost laugh
at first this was fine... but imagine this happening hourly... every day... and then the whispers from other guilds to add to it.

1 word. Hypocrite
I don't say any names, and I mention that i'm guilty of it too, but I got over it...

Flash and I had a trash talking war in whispers that led to me solo warring them.. and you know what... I had fun.. For once I tried the gorilla fighting they do.. and it was hilarious..
It's a game, get over it.. you die, if you can't fight back or if no one will help you, then peace out get, go farm, get better gear, go back and smash those peoples faces who killed you..

If you guys could hear "Freez3"... he laughs and has fun pvping, I'd mention a fight and if he was there he'd enjoy the fighting... he'd be laughing and gloating on vent getting a kick out of it.. thats how it should be

Flash,mvw,youtube etc are no different... they just want to fight, vent was hilarious.. they aren't emoing about it, they aren't pissed off, they laugh and make jokes and give strategies on vent, in game is just trash talk.
"they will hate me for making them sound normal but its true.. they just want pvp in a PVP ZONE!!!!"

Not saying these pkers are angels....
spawn killing, trash talking, emote spamming to gloat
but get over it... the majority of you do it too, i did it
i used to cuss at flash in whispers, call MvW fail,.. trash talk with him in whispers, in shout, whatever.. at least i ADMIT IT, stop sugar coating the truth, own up to what you do to, stop justifying it.. thats called being a hypocrite




Revenge is best served with a sit emote on someone's face. :p


I have said no names in particular that would care lol and I'm not targeting a specific group, im passing blame to everyone who does the same thing and acts like they dont... thats a good 100+ people

I won't post anymore, since I quit.. so your failure responses and quotes wont bother me... I already said I was guilty of it to, at least I owned up to it. but I attempted to go through the forums to see whats up but theirs so many crybaby threads its like a disease is going around.

But to sum it up since most of you like myself would never read this
im saying "get over it, stop acting like an angel, your just being hypocrites"

[DF001]

Way to go kinsin.

+imaginary rep

[donkster]

I'm not trying to be rude but this server has enough wanna-be police.
Bijou has no Justice, Bijou does as they please.

It's pretty fail when people act like police in this game.
I used to act like a police dog... So I am guilty of contributing to it
I couldn't play for longer than 30min without someone whispering me saying:
"OMG ANK KILLED ME IN ABYSS"
*waits for the whisper*
"fine i'll go help you..."
i'd get there and theres already an even fight, or my old guildies and other people were out numbering ANK like 7-10 on 3-5 even 15 people would be there... and 2 ank spawning in....
no you cant call me a liar, b/c i was one of the people that would show up and kill them out. call that police?

It gets worse.... I would see guild chat...
"Flash is going into abyss"
"Flash is in abyss"
"Hey Fail just went into abyss"
"Anyone want to kill ANK?"
"Is MvW there?"
on vent...
"anyone want to help kill ANK? there in abyss bullying"
BEFORE THEY EVEN DID ANYTHING, and the people who whisper me, or in gchat, or in shout.... yes it was done in shout too... then the flames would start
and you guys act like your so much better... like stormy had that picture of a cub seeing a lion in a mirror... think about it
(not flaming you stormy, just using the pic as an example... it was a funny pic)


now seriously.... i would almost laugh
at first this was fine... but imagine this happening hourly... every day... and then the whispers from other guilds to add to it.

1 word. Hypocrite
I don't say any names, and I mention that i'm guilty of it too, but I got over it...

Flash and I had a trash talking war in whispers that led to me solo warring them.. and you know what... I had fun.. For once I tried the gorilla fighting they do.. and it was hilarious..
It's a game, get over it.. you die, if you can't fight back or if no one will help you, then peace out get, go farm, get better gear, go back and smash those peoples faces who killed you..

If you guys could hear "Freez3"... he laughs and has fun pvping, I'd mention a fight and if he was there he'd enjoy the fighting... he'd be laughing and gloating on vent getting a kick out of it.. thats how it should be

Flash,mvw,youtube etc are no different... they just want to fight, vent was hilarious.. they aren't emoing about it, they aren't pissed off, they laugh and make jokes and give strategies on vent, in game is just trash talk.
"they will hate me for making them sound normal but its true.. they just want pvp in a PVP ZONE!!!!"

Not saying these pkers are angels....
spawn killing, trash talking, emote spamming to gloat
but get over it... the majority of you do it too, i did it
i used to cuss at flash in whispers, call MvW fail,.. trash talk with him in whispers, in shout, whatever.. at least i ADMIT IT, stop sugar coating the truth, own up to what you do to, stop justifying it.. thats called being a hypocrite




Revenge is best served with a sit emote on someone's face. :p


I have said no names in particular that would care lol and I'm not targeting a specific group, im passing blame to everyone who does the same thing and acts like they dont... thats a good 100+ people

I won't post anymore, since I quit.. so your failure responses and quotes wont bother me... I already said I was guilty of it to, at least I owned up to it. but I attempted to go through the forums to see whats up but theirs so many crybaby threads its like a disease is going around.

But to sum it up since most of you like myself would never read this
im saying "get over it, stop acting like an angel, your just being hypocrites"



I love you so much bro. Everything said in game/forums is always for kicks or pleasure for the members.

[shihouinkyouhei]

woot bump for kinneh :D

[Andrewnester]

This makes me feel bad cuz haha im like one of the bigger pkers in Bijou. But i only pk when people annoy me...
Sorry guys, im thinking about joining this and coming to the light side :D

[x0000x]

This makes me feel bad cuz haha im like one of the bigger pkers in Bijou. But i only pk when people annoy me...
Sorry guys, im thinking about joining this and coming to the light side :D

Nub.........^^

[Andrewnester]

Nub.........^^

stalker :P
Hey our guild needs to get those cool siggy thingies:o

[x0000x]

stalker :P
Hey our guild needs to get those cool siggy thingies:o

yea i would be cool!

[Andrewnester]

Nub.........^^

zomg i told u mine suck but ill make u one zoozozozozozoo

[x0000x]

zomg i told u mine suck but ill make u one zoozozozozozoo

yay thanks!

[Raesho]

Haha sorry. I don't nitpick on grammar online, normally. It's not like I have a Doctorate in English or anything like that.

But donkey was picking on the other guy's English, while using faulty English of his own. Therefore, I felt it was appropriate to point it out. Gotta love the irony.

* clap my hand and rolf myself* nice one babe.

[shihouinkyouhei]

can i just own people and make them shut up? or do they sit on the floor and curse at me for being an complete.... you know?
Well, sorry, but shutting up, smiling and killing u some more. have a nice day ^^

[DF001]

This makes me feel bad cuz haha im like one of the bigger pkers in Bijou. But i only pk when people annoy me...
Sorry guys, im thinking about joining this and coming to the light side :D

No, you join the daaaark side.

Ok guys, back on topic ~_~

[solferina]

Back on topic? lol
Hopefully I'm posting this correctly:

IGN(s): Felliere
Class: Paladin
Level: 67
Specialty: Full-support, tactical healer, but poor attack skills. Will win by either outlasting the opponent or with pure luck, lol.
Note: Prefers to be partied with either a Mage/Fighter for PvP (so if you want a definite win, have a similar-leveled partner chosen from the list). Focus is on healing and keeping the party alive. Will avenge those being harassed, not one or two-time kills.

[rukian421]

I'm not trying to be rude but this server has enough wanna-be police.
Bijou has no Justice, Bijou does as they please. Etc etc and the rest of the page long post

Wow Kinny, i just read through that, an amazing post im stunned xD

[borednl]

I'm not trying to be rude but this server has enough wanna-be police.
Bijou has no Justice, Bijou does as they please.

This isn't about policing. This is about fighting back. Police don't kill criminals, we do.

Some of us do it for honor, some do it for a challenge. I do it for both. Those who are without honor or who can't appreciate a true challenge are "fail." Now, whether a PKK'er does their duty well or not is up to the person. It sounds like you weren't a very good PKK'er. I'm sorry to hear of your failure, but you can't blame anyone else but yourself for that.


This makes me feel bad cuz haha im like one of the bigger pkers in Bijou. But i only pk when people annoy me...
Sorry guys, im thinking about joining this and coming to the light side :D

You like to kill people who are annoying? Although not all PK'ers are annoying, the vast majority of the ones I've dealt with are. When they start cussing and saying "ur charmed" and other such things, it's so nice to smack them down and chase them out of abyss. The difference though is that you're accomplishing something worthwhile by doing this as a PKK instead of as a PK. Come join us. :)


Back on topic? lol
Hopefully I'm posting this correctly:

IGN(s): Felliere
Class: Paladin
Level: 67
Specialty: Full-support, tactical healer, but poor attack skills. Will win by either outlasting the opponent or with pure luck, lol.
Note: Prefers to be partied with either a Mage/Fighter for PvP (so if you want a definite win, have a similar-leveled partner chosen from the list). Focus is on healing and keeping the party alive. Will avenge those being harassed, not one or two-time kills.

Added. Welcome. :)

[donkster]

This isn't about policing. This is about fighting back. Police don't kill criminals, we do.

Some of us do it for honor, some do it for a challenge. I do it for both. Those who are without honor or who can't appreciate a true challenge are "fail." Now, whether a PKK'er does their duty well or not is up to the person. It sounds like you weren't a very good PKK'er. I'm sorry to hear of your failure, but you can't blame anyone else but yourself for that.


You know whats "Fail" ?


Whats fail is how your looking for "Honor" on a VIDEO GAME.
And you expect Fiesta to be a challenging game?!?!?!? Dude you seriously need to grow up, learn the difference between reality and things that aren't.

Just by people venturing into this field of anti-pking, they become the pkers themselfs. There is no denying it, you guys are people who get owned in abyss and want to get together and start ganging up on people.

Who are you to say whats good and evil. There is no good and evil, there are only choices. The actual pkers made that choice to go in and kill and HAVE FUN. And you guys made the choice to get together and become the very thing you hate. Good luck, because judging by the people you've assembled here, you will fail. If people think they're good enough to go into a higher abyss, then they obviously think they are high enough to fight the people there. There's no backing to people who complain about this, don't go in if you don't like it.



Also like i said before, Bijou and Apoline are polar opposites. Take this baby crap back there.

[Morok]

ROFL LMAO ROFL LMAO ROFL

i got to say i used to be a PKer too when there was no exp loss and LVL change in abyss. I mean, who can PK their own LVLs w/o cookies or crit/DEF suits? i barely see any at all... and -cough- donkey the as... lol err... ehem should call himself a vendor killer... -cough- fail mage -cough- (got screenie of him doing it) and as for ANK like to team up on me, well that was epic failure... ever since that patch happened a whole army used to target me, ppl thought i was cookied >_< 11 on 1 i got no scrolls on or buff the abyss was so easy and AS said my cookie fail... LOL first of all cookies r for ANK... and -cough- my gears are gone >_>, i have no money thx to some fail friend of weezy that can't even LVL himself... but nooo... "its too hard" he should just do the same thing as weeezy and cookie and do the same BS like the rest of them weaklings that needs charm/extender/crit suits like the rest of them weaklings -.-, at least i got a weapon and i am doing fine with another weapon... W/o armor grinding in abyss not caring about failed PKers :)

and fome that used to PK... i do that SOLO w/o that failed patch... but ANK members do that in groups or cookies >_>... epic failure... manvswild is the biggest paper fighter i ever fought -.-

[borednl]

You know whats "Fail" ?


Whats fail is how your looking for "Honor" on a VIDEO GAME.
And you expect Fiesta to be a challenging game?!?!?!? Dude you seriously need to grow up, learn the difference between reality and things that aren't.

Just by people venturing into this field of anti-pking, they become the pkers themselfs. There is no denying it, you guys are people who get owned in abyss and want to get together and start ganging up on people.

Who are you to say whats good and evil. There is no good and evil, there are only choices. The actual pkers made that choice to go in and kill and HAVE FUN. And you guys made the choice to get together and become the very thing you hate. Good luck, because judging by the people you've assembled here, you will fail. If people think they're good enough to go into a higher abyss, then they obviously think they are high enough to fight the people there. There's no backing to people who complain about this, don't go in if you don't like it.



Also like i said before, Bijou and Apoline are polar opposites. Take this baby crap back there.

The hypocrite taking a debate about a game so seriously.. *groans*

As for "honor," I think that how a person interacts with other people, whether in a video game, in a grocery store, at school, or at work reflects their personality. If honor is important to someone, then their actions will be honorable no matter where they go. It's not a matter of taking the game itself so seriously, it's a matter of taking the interactions that someone has with others seriously. Honor is about how someone treats others, not about playing video games.

Your argument about PKK'ers equaling PK'ers is weak. The reason why is because I defined what a PK'er and what a PKK'er is here in this thread. PK'ers have "fun" killing people in abyss. PKK'ers kill those PK'ers. A PK'er prevents people who are well-intentioned from enjoying the game, while a PKK'er defends those people from assaults made by PK'ers.

If a person wants to have duels in abyss, that's fine. That's not what PK'ing is. PK'ing is where someone unexpectedly kills another player who is minding their own business. Most PKK'ers will not kill a PK'er who has only killed someone once though. The goal is to reduce harassment, which happens when someone spam/spawn kills people without provocation.

Your argument doesn't hold any water and was kind of disappointing. You're just scared that now when you go to ruin someone's day in Abyss, they will be able to fight back against you more effectively. Weak.

Edit: Also, your attempts to speak for your entire server.. Even weaker.. rofl

[FiveFingers]

ROFL LMAO ROFL LMAO ROFL

i got to say i used to be a PKer too when there was no exp loss and LVL change in abyss. I mean, who can PK their own LVLs w/o cookies or crit/DEF suits? i barely see any at all... and -cough- donkey the as... lol err... ehem should call himself a vendor killer... -cough- fail mage -cough- (got screenie of him doing it) and as for ANK like to team up on me, well that was epic failure... ever since that patch happened a whole army used to target me, ppl thought i was cookied >_< 11 on 1 i got no scrolls on or buff the abyss was so easy and AS said my cookie fail... LOL first of all cookies r for ANK... and -cough- my gears are gone >_>, i have no money thx to some fail friend of weezy that can't even LVL himself... but nooo... "its too hard" he should just do the same thing as weeezy and cookie and do the same BS like the rest of them weaklings that needs charm/extender/crit suits like the rest of them weaklings -.-, at least i got a weapon and i am doing fine with another weapon... W/o armor grinding in abyss not caring about failed PKers :)

and fome that used to PK... i do that SOLO w/o that failed patch... but ANK members do that in groups or cookies >_>... epic failure... manvswild is the biggest paper fighter i ever fought -.-

lol Morok, that made a nice lil report that =D!

You forgot to mention the time u got killed by a certain lvl 79 full end fighter with a lvl 20 axe +9 in lvl 70 abyss... (Before patch so u were deffinately 70+, was before the cap was raised)

yes it was 1on1, no i wasnt scrolled, no i wasnt cookied, yes I pk for fun, yes you fail.

v.day suit and extender doesn't change the fact that you got killed by me with a lvl 20 +9 axe xD!

[illusiondiffusion]

lol Morok, that made a nice lil report that =D!

You forgot to mention the time u got killed by a certain lvl 79 full end fighter with a lvl 20 axe +9 in lvl 70 abyss... (Before patch so u were deffinately 70+, was before the cap was raised)

yes it was 1on1, no i wasnt scrolled, no i wasnt cookied, yes I pk for fun, yes you fail.

v.day suit and extender doesn't change the fact that you got killed by me with a lvl 20 +9 axe xD!

and then morok will say

1. I wasn't wearing any armor
2. I was using npc armor so im 1337 cuz i t@nk wit armurs wit n0 statz

[Morok]

lol Morok, that made a nice lil report that =D!

You forgot to mention the time u got killed by a certain lvl 79 full end fighter with a lvl 20 axe +9 in lvl 70 abyss... (Before patch so u were deffinately 70+, was before the cap was raised)

yes it was 1on1, no i wasnt scrolled, no i wasnt cookied, yes I pk for fun, yes you fail.

v.day suit and extender doesn't change the fact that you got killed by me with a lvl 20 +9 axe xD!

lol... so many lies noob

1.
miss "best highest HP tank" ur a lieing fail :) since when is a LVL20 axe shaped so different? it looks like a blue axe and ehem... what was ur DMG? same as screenie of u showing off ur failed "Goldly" stats?

2.
u had extender on, obviously and -cough- you can't grind w/o PT or them SC ur a nooblet and when i wanted rematch for ur unexpected cowardly attack here is ur failed guildie donkster... fail mage and ur just a noob who can't stop switching classes coz u just suck with them... no lie. I regret the fact i helpped u LVL now :p...

3.
i don't like u, there :)... full END which means = low DMG. How about u fight me w/o my armor on and a LVL6x axe and see how "impressive" u are

[Morok]

and then morok will say

1. I wasn't wearing any armor
2. I was using npc armor so im 1337 cuz i t@nk wit armurs wit n0 statz

no need for me to say it... kitteh is epic fail and +9s make this game epic easy :P

[donkster]

ROFL LMAO ROFL LMAO ROFL

i got to say i used to be a PKer too when there was no exp loss and LVL change in abyss. I mean, who can PK their own LVLs w/o cookies or crit/DEF suits? i barely see any at all... and -cough- donkey the as... lol err... ehem should call himself a vendor killer... -cough- fail mage -cough- (got screenie of him doing it) and as for ANK like to team up on me, well that was epic failure... ever since that patch happened a whole army used to target me, ppl thought i was cookied >_< 11 on 1 i got no scrolls on or buff the abyss was so easy and AS said my cookie fail... LOL first of all cookies r for ANK... and -cough- my gears are gone >_>, i have no money thx to some fail friend of weezy that can't even LVL himself... but nooo... "its too hard" he should just do the same thing as weeezy and cookie and do the same BS like the rest of them weaklings that needs charm/extender/crit suits like the rest of them weaklings -.-, at least i got a weapon and i am doing fine with another weapon... W/o armor grinding in abyss not caring about failed PKers :)

and fome that used to PK... i do that SOLO w/o that failed patch... but ANK members do that in groups or cookies >_>... epic failure... manvswild is the biggest paper fighter i ever fought -.-

Morok, your the worst player on bijou. I've never cookied to beat you EVER. Neither has weezy. I've even fought you before I was capped and had +9's. I only got +9's a week or 2 before the cap. The person who +9'ed my gear knows who she is. And fyi, i had 2 sets of gear. One set Dedz has on his mage, and the 2nd, a certain person never returned. But like i told him and everyone else, i dont care anymore. But the funniest thing is, you ***** and moan about people using SC to play the game, check your siggy there. Im pretty sure thats a menian suit and im guessing you married as well. Who are you to call people cookied when they fight you. The only person who cookies when fighting you is you, and you always lose. I admit you only beat me once in fb3 because you cookied up and got me during that few second delay. Other then that I've always beat you 1v1 same for everyone in ank. And I can kill shops all i want, its a guide line not a rule. Btw heres my entire CS list. The only thing other then suits, mounts and houses are some remmies things and 30% 2 hour extenders when i used to grind with kitteh. Go ahead morok, find them cookies you say i use 24/7. Your dmg is horrible, how the hell do you hit 150-200 on pure int mages?




The hypocrite taking a debate about a game so seriously.. *groans*

As for "honor," I think that how a person interacts with other people, whether in a video game, in a grocery store, at school, or at work reflects their personality. If honor is important to someone, then their actions will be honorable no matter where they go. It's not a matter of taking the game itself so seriously, it's a matter of taking the interactions that someone has with others seriously. Honor is about how someone treats others, not about playing video games.

Your argument about PKK'ers equaling PK'ers is weak. The reason why is because I defined what a PK'er and what a PKK'er is here in this thread. PK'ers have "fun" killing people in abyss. PKK'ers kill those PK'ers. A PK'er prevents people who are well-intentioned from enjoying the game, while a PKK'er defends those people from assaults made by PK'ers.

If a person wants to have duels in abyss, that's fine. That's not what PK'ing is. PK'ing is where someone unexpectedly kills another player who is minding their own business. Most PKK'ers will not kill a PK'er who has only killed someone once though. The goal is to reduce harassment, which happens when someone spam/spawn kills people without provocation.

Your argument doesn't hold any water and was kind of disappointing. You're just scared that now when you go to ruin someone's day in Abyss, they will be able to fight back against you more effectively. Weak.

Edit: Also, your attempts to speak for your entire server.. Even weaker.. rofl

Ya everone on this server knows i dont take anything seriously. Everything i say is only to get a rise out of people like you. Whos the one taking everything seriously when your the one argueing with a guy who doesnt give a care about what your saying. Quit 3 days after the cap, how can i take fiesta serious?






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[Orchids_Mantis]

You know whats "Fail" ?


Whats fail is how your looking for "Honor" on a VIDEO GAME.And you expect Fiesta to be a challenging game?!?!?!? Dude you seriously need to grow up, learn the difference between reality and things that aren't.

Just by people venturing into this field of anti-pking, they become the pkers themselfs. There is no denying it, you guys are people who get owned in abyss and want to get together and start ganging up on people.

Who are you to say whats good and evil. There is no good and evil, there are only choices. The actual pkers made that choice to go in and kill and HAVE FUN. And you guys made the choice to get together and become the very thing you hate. Good luck, because judging by the people you've assembled here, you will fail. If people think they're good enough to go into a higher abyss, then they obviously think they are high enough to fight the people there. There's no backing to people who complain about this, don't go in if you don't like it.



Also like i said before, Bijou and Apoline are polar opposites. Take this baby crap back there.

1) a person can show honor, respect and pride in anything they do, even games -just as one can show rudeness, bad temperment and bad personality

2) I don't get owned in the abyss, my DD has only been killed in the abyss but a handful of times in there, yet I am still here as a PKKer (fighting the strong is more fun than beating up the weak).

3) many people have fun and enjoyment by taking fun and enjoyment away from others, yet do not enjoy when someone does the same to them -in the real world we call these people "bullies". Fun is fine, but taking the amusement from others for your amusement is being a jerk.

Again, I am not against PVP, if you are in a pvp zone, expect to be killed -I do. I do not, however, condone spawn killing, harassing a single player, or forcing everyone else to leave the area because you have 15 friends with nothing better to do than boss lower levelplayers around (by all means, kill them, but give them a break every now and again, or fight your friends, who are more powerful).


edit: Morok, I was actually starting to have respect for you, as you had left the forums where you seemed to have nothign nice to say to stay in-game, where you can be reasonable...why do you come in here and start flaming again?

Perhaps you should stop -I know someone else that would like you to as well

[Morok]

ur epic fail to lose to a "fail fighter" coz i'm not supposed to kill u and since when do i buy cookies? if i did cookie i'd buy extender and full set, not just charm and... fighter < mage... fail mage... and as for u, ur the weakest mage ever, attacking me back while i was grinding coz u died by a fighter w/ low M.DEF. How fail is that? I barely even win against mages, and ur pathetic fail words are so fail. A-S- and another letter = donkey... coz ur an fail mage even Grarss is a better mage than u. Another thing... i owned lots of fighters, i like fighting them too but so many of them are easy, archers i love to kill them hahahah... I'm a fail against mages idc, but then again a whole bunch of fighters are. A fighter < a mage. And why is weezy's DEF so paper? no wonder he just now cookied and trying to pull mobs on me in dungeon while i was poisoned to 1HP i didn't use stone but he distracted me and i pulled mobs on him but he calls himself a beast when he's cookied... LOL if i had fail DMG then how come weezy's DEF is lower than even pure INT mage's? and manvswild HP got dropped by 5k by ME? explain plz :D

[Morok]

1) a person can show honor, respect and pride in anything they do, even games -just as one can show rudeness, bad temperment and bad personality

2) I don't get owned in the abyss, my DD has only been killed in the abyss but a handful of times in there, yet I am still here as a PKKer (fighting the strong is more fun than beating up the weak).

3) many people have fun and enjoyment by taking fun and enjoyment away from others, yet do not enjoy when someone does the same to them -in the real world we call these people "bullies". Fun is fine, but taking the amusement from others for your amusement is being a jerk.

Again, I am not against PVP, if you are in a pvp zone, expect to be killed -I do. I do not, however, condone spawn killing, harassing a single player, or forcing everyone else to leave the area because you have 15 friends with nothing better to do than boss lower levelplayers around (by all means, kill them, but give them a break every now and again, or fight your friends, who are more powerful).


edit: Morok, I was actually starting to have respect for you, as you had left the forums where you seemed to have nothign nice to say to stay in-game, where you can be reasonable...why do you come in here and start flaming again?

Perhaps you should stop -I know someone else that would like you to as well

ppl was talking garbadge behind my back... AGAIN... I am so tired of hearing garbadge... How can i say something nice back if jokers don't have respect, and say i quit game when i actually don't. U don't know what it feels like when ppl say garbdge behind ur back or even when ppl don't even know u, its frustrating.

[Celtic_Princess]

Morok,

They continue to hound you because you never fail to rise to the occasion. The talk, the rants, the endless taunts all serve to encourage them to continue to hound you. Don't let a few words get to you, brush it off and play the game how you like playing it. If you have an ongoing conflict with someone that doesn't seem to have a solution anywhere in sight, simply avoid encountering them in situations and areas that you know you will come across them in. The forums being one of them.

You know that if someone is actually harassing you, following your posts, and flaming all the time, you can report it. You have an option to take care of it. Don't let the little things bug you though, all it does is stress you and everyone else out :)

In regards to the topic: PKers have a right to play the game how they choose, as do PKKers. Whether or not you think this makes them PKers is irrelavent to them, they feel they are justified in their actions and as another user pointed out...they enjoy the PvP with those on their own level more than the PvP that involves killing lower levels. To be the best, you have to beat the best...the leaderboards pretty much put a target on your back.

To the Flamers: Everyone here has a right to voice their own opinion. However, rules are set in place that require you to do so in a (at least somewhat) civil manner. To the player who used epic amounts of rude/vulgar/distasteful language in his/her post, you do realize that you can be IP traced right? They can see that multiple accounts are accessing the page from the same IP. So making an alt account to rip on someone is a rather ill thought out plan.

[Morok]

Morok,

They continue to hound you because you never fail to rise to the occasion. The talk, the rants, the endless taunts all serve to encourage them to continue to hound you. Don't let a few words get to you, brush it off and play the game how you like playing it. If you have an ongoing conflict with someone that doesn't seem to have a solution anywhere in sight, simply avoid encountering them in situations and areas that you know you will come across them in. The forums being one of them.

You know that if someone is actually harassing you, following your posts, and flaming all the time, you can report it. You have an option to take care of it. Don't let the little things bug you though, all it does is stress you and everyone else out :)

In regards to the topic: PKers have a right to play the game how they choose, as do PKKers. Whether or not you think this makes them PKers is irrelavent to them, they feel they are justified in their actions and as another user pointed out...they enjoy the PvP with those on their own level more than the PvP that involves killing lower levels. To be the best, you have to beat the best...the leaderboards pretty much put a target on your back.

To the Flamers: Everyone here has a right to voice their own opinion. However, rules are set in place that require you to do so in a (at least somewhat) civil manner. To the player who used epic amounts of rude/vulgar/distasteful language in his/her post, you do realize that you can be IP traced right? They can see that multiple accounts are accessing the page from the same IP. So making an alt account to rip on someone is a rather ill thought out plan.



thx celtic, its better i follow ur advice :)

[Shadowic2]

Since it seems you guys can't keep personal disputes to yourselves, or use proper language that does not violate the Terms of Service and Forum Rules, I'm going to close this thread.

When engaging in a thread, please try to be a little more respectful.

Thanks.

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