Is it just me?

[Clovlen]

Okay I look through here and I see alot of people complaining about healers not healing them. All right how about this? I've run into a lot of folks that don't protect the cleric how are you supposed to keep someone alive when they drag you into a mob of lizard men or something else that desperately wants to kill you and are doing a damn good job of it, and my tanker is 5 miles in the other direction. Screw you you're dead. How hard is that to understand? Keep em off me and I'll keep you alive. SIMPLE! Anyone I party with I tell them this but it doesn't CLICK and they get pissed off when I let them die to save myself. Sorry not losing 62 exp for anybody if I don't have to. If that makes me a bad healer then whatever I'm a bad healer don't party with me.

[Visious]

Yeah they choose not to be clerics so they have to live with buying hp stones / pots. It's our advantage and we choose how to use it.

[SpiritS]

Cleric sure get bad rep tis day,haha.I see alot cleric(i dun wan say who) during KQ they dun wan heal and just see there becoz there are too many cleric,they think the other cleric will heal but end up i the onli there who heal and ress(onli me can ress) so i veri mad and did 1 bad thing which ask the tanker lead the boss to kill those cleric and i dun wan ress them.For me,most ppl chose cleric to be their teammate just because to get the buff and also keep their Hp pot/HP stone.Luckily,i nv meet these kind of ppl,my teammate always be a good tanker protect me.
So if they dun wan protect u then dun heal him/her by saying sry lag.No need sacrifice for these moron.(I dunoe if they got give u loot or not,most they dun.)
or just leave them alone.

[Kholai]

Some people seem to forget that a cleric has cooldown times (and a survival instinct). If you've got to heal yourself, then you're not going to be healing them.
A lot of this actually seems to come from the fighters. There are a lot of great tankers out there I'm sure, but there's a horde of fighters who I swear I've never seen perform a single taunt move, and just love to run around attacking every monster they see. Unfortunately it's frequently the very same people who don't know how to do their own jobs that accuse the clerics of failing theirs. Try not to take it out on the regular folks, it's these ones that give the others a bad name.

Of course, for the ones that are that bad, remember you'll probably survive better without them than they will without you, and go find somebody else to party with. You'll get fewer grey hairs that way.

[Gavener]

Well, i carry Mass hp and sp potions make sure my Stones are full and, im not rich highest lvl is 13 cleric, i made a Fighter, guess what Scroll and potion making is everyones friend. i heal randoms for fun, but i started my cleric with the solo idea in mind

[yanokito]

ei.. im a level 45 cleric....and i do a pretty good job as a cleric too....
just keep in mind that not all clerics are like that...

i have a hard time dealing with a party who only have me as a cleric, gives me a hard time when everyones hp go down at the same time..-_- cause it i cant party heal yet and there is cooldown.. i cant really complain about it cause its my job to keep them alive...

its not the cleric whos at fault if the tanker cant handle so much mob..
and dont depend on clerics too much cause lag can happen to any player or to miss click another member...
so time to time use hp stones or pots... its purposely there to be used if anything could happen....-_-

IGN: Kemuri
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[lusia235]

It's annoying but thats how it is. The game is somewhat filled with ignorant people who think they have the right to be healed. But, clerics healing others is a privilage and shouldn't be taken to such extreme. I just wish others would realize that clerics are played by humans and that we, as humans, mess up sometimes. It would be alot smarter if tankers would just take their own potions/stones incase the cleric lags or something.

[Semaj]

wait till you guys hit lv30 and start losing like 500xp every time your killed. i do a great job as a cleric, im constantly being told that. but like its been stated before, when the mob is just to big (to high of a level), things can get hairy, even with a good cleric people die. and ya, we make mistakes, its human nature.

from what ive *seen* while in the lower level areas, there is a large number of new players that dont know how to play, or play only for themselves and dont care about anyone else. ive ran into these people while playing my fighter who is only lv10, and its frustrating to be in a party with them. or when a cleric is just sitting there and you nicely ask for a heal and they ignore you or walk away. I mostly solo with my lower lv chars now, or only party with the alt. chars from the guild im in, because i know they are all good people.

[academics03]

Sorry not losing 62 exp for anybody if I don't have to. If that makes me a bad healer then whatever I'm a bad healer don't party with me.

If the Cleric dies, then no one can revive them. Seems like keeping the person who can save you an unnecessary trip would be first priority.
Since I made a Cleric I've noticed that people (not everyone of course) will bug you to party with them to save money on potions and to get a free buff (I had one mage bug me yesterday about partying with him just because it would give HIM a buff).

[Andromeda]

wait till you guys hit lv30 and start losing like 500xp every time your killed. i do a great job as a cleric, im constantly being told that. but like its been stated before, when the mob is just to big (to high of a level), things can get hairy, even with a good cleric people die. and ya, we make mistakes, its human nature.

from what ive *seen* while in the lower level areas, there is a large number of new players that dont know how to play, or play only for themselves and dont care about anyone else. ive ran into these people while playing my fighter who is only lv10, and its frustrating to be in a party with them. or when a cleric is just sitting there and you nicely ask for a heal and they ignore you or walk away. I mostly solo with my lower lv chars now, or only party with the alt. chars from the guild im in, because i know they are all good people.

Try Lv 51 you lose 10000+ exp

[aegrimonia]

lIf the Cleric dies, then no one can revive them. Seems like keeping the person who can save you an unnecessary trip would be first priority.
Since I made a Cleric I've noticed that people (not everyone of course) will bug you to party with them to save money on potions and to get a free buff (I had one mage bug me yesterday about partying with him just because it would give HIM a buff).

oh, people will ALWAYS want you to heal and buff them in a party.. but you'll have to argue till your face turns blue and threaten leaving before they will actually start sharing the loot.. and put it on sequential..

but that is short lived, because then they realize they can screw you by clicking the crappy stuff when it's not their turn to get it..

so clerics just get screwed in the end.. which is why i almost only ever solo unless i'm with people i know and trust to truly randomly distribute the loot (by hitting the collect loot button instead of selecting certain items off the ground)

see the deal is.. they need US.. we don't need them..

a party of all clerics could do everything in this game... a party of all anything else would get tromped in a heartbeat.

they need us.. remind them of that.

[dericcyk]

yeah we can do everything in the game albeit slower, as long as we can survive the hits, we'll live, slow and steady wins the race :P

[0Gravity]

? I've run into a lot of folks that don't protect the cleric how are you supposed to keep someone alive when they drag you into a mob of lizard men or something else that desperately wants to kill you and are doing a damn good job of it, and my tanker is 5 miles in the other direction.


I that point in time I tend to start yelling "NOT THE FACE OH GOD NOT THE FACE" while spamming health stones/pots at which point someone usually comes to get the aggro off me and I can continue to heal people.

[Cuddles101]

I that point in time I tend to start yelling "NOT THE FACE OH GOD NOT THE FACE" while spamming health stones/pots at which point someone usually comes to get the aggro off me and I can continue to heal people.

I usually party with a warrior who actually understands this. Whenever a mob starts attacking me from out of the blue, the first thing he yells is 'Protect the cleric'.

[wangfu85]

lets just say there are both imcompedent players on both sides, cleric that dont noe to heal and Fighters who dont noe how to tank and defend. Thats is why, i only afflilate myself with the ppl i noe who can DO what they are supposed to do.

Kq and normal mobs are two different things. I don't mind losing KQ but i do mind losing exp. If things get hot and your in a crappy party with ppl who dont noe who to play, use a town scroll to get out there.

[Semaj]

word, i usually only party with my guild mates anymore, and i usually only solo with my alts, unless a guilde's alt is on as well.

to many of the lower level chars just dont understand the party concept...
though i have to admit, the last few times in KQ with my fighter alt (king slime) ive been blessed with an awesome cleric in the party.

[Nerria]

Clerics can carry Health Stones and HP pots as well...

When I join a party, they are the only people who matter anymore. I keep focused on my goal: Heal them, buff them, cure them! If I pull aggro, I use stones and pots.

I think most clerics should also realize it is their job to keep your party alive. Every time someone argues me this they go: "No it isn't, we don't HAVE to heal!"

That's ridiculous.

You are a Cleric! If your party shouldn't be healed in your opinion, then you shouldn't be in a party in mine. Your job in a party is to keep everyone fighting fit. If that means you sacrifice some stones/pots - so be it.

I'd rather spend some silver on re-stones than have a tank whining at me the whole time anyways and telling me I suck anyways - so just do it.

Lastly, Clerics don't need ultra protection. If anything, the people who need protecting are Archers, Mages, and squishy Warriors. Clerics should be able to tank. They have great armor defense, great buffs, Stone skin, a shield, and usually high endurance. I'd go out of my way to get aggro off a squishy in a heartbeat because they can take 2 hits... where as I can take 6-7 with no heals.

In the end I guess it's up to you and your style of play, but I believe this to hold true for all clerics serious about partying.

I don't find cleric a relaxed and laid back class like everyone else. Clerics have to be aware of everything and know their capabilities. Don't just heal - you are a secondary tank - and if you aren't... then we have a problem.

>.<

[Isila]

I know what you mean, and I HATE it when my party splits up especially... one guy takes off one direction, and the rest of the party goes another way, then it just becomes chaos and you're the one the blame falls on.

I really hate when we're fighting something either for a quest or in a KQ (such as Mara or Marlone) and someone aggros and leads Mara through the healers and back line people... she has AOE and kills those people wearing paper armor in one shot, then you have all these "Rez..." "rez me now~" "rez plese" like you don't see their corpses on the ground lol. It's really frustrating sometimes *sigh*

[Cuddles101]

Lastly, Clerics don't need ultra protection. If anything, the people who need protecting are Archers, Mages, and squishy Warriors. Clerics should be able to tank. They have great armor defense, great buffs, Stone skin, a shield, and usually high endurance. I'd go out of my way to get aggro off a squishy in a heartbeat because they can take 2 hits... where as I can take 6-7 with no heals.


That be true, but I tend to stay in the back (or in the middle if my team splits up for some reason) and clerics are not exempt from being aggroed by mobs.

I've had mobs spawn right next to me while I'm chain healing my tank. Or, I may be in the middle of casting revive (takes a few seconds to cast) and some monster decides I should be their next target. Sometimes I don't even look at my HP, I'm so concerned about my team mates' HP that I wouldn't notice until someone tells me to heal myself or my character drops down dead.

This is when my friend usually says to protect the cleric. True the mages and archers are alot softer on the outside than we are but we can revive them if we're alive. This is also why I like to party with at least two clerics. If one dies there's always a back up 'rev'.

[Semaj]

agreed, partying with 2 clerics is essential in higher level areas (ok, maby not essential, but it makes things a LOT easier). the best way to hadle a 2 cleric party (in my opinion) is to have one cleric (more battle oriented) help agro, buff, and rez as needed, the other cleric is more support/healing and will take the agro away from mage/archer. if the support cleric falls to far behind in healing, then the more agro cleric can step in and help support. also its possible for the clerics to take turns resting/healing, for almost non-stop grinding ;)

[Game_Hermit]

Okay I look through here and I see alot of people complaining about healers not healing them. All right how about this? I've run into a lot of folks that don't protect the cleric how are you supposed to keep someone alive when they drag you into a mob of lizard men or something else that desperately wants to kill you and are doing a damn good job of it, and my tanker is 5 miles in the other direction. Screw you you're dead. How hard is that to understand? Keep em off me and I'll keep you alive. SIMPLE! Anyone I party with I tell them this but it doesn't CLICK and they get pissed off when I let them die to save myself. Sorry not losing 62 exp for anybody if I don't have to. If that makes me a bad healer then whatever I'm a bad healer don't party with me.
Most MMORPG players have no idea how to play their class. This is why i hardly ever group with people outside my own guild. Most random pick up groups have the tank not holding agro, the damage dealers trying to tank and the healer not healing. I just save myself the trouble of dealing with them by grouping with 99% people i know.

Lastly, Clerics don't need ultra protection. If anything, the people who need protecting are Archers, Mages, and squishy Warriors.
Mages can be squishy all they want, but if i find a squishy warrior he'll be kicked from the group so hard he'll respawn in everquest. I heal and buff the group. I'm a cleric, it's what i do. He's a warrior. Taking a lot of damage is what he does. If he can't tank i'm not going to waste my SP healing him. If he can't do his job he shouldn't expect anyone else to do their job for him either. The point of a group is that everyone contributes their unique class strengths to make the whole group stronger. The mage is here to do damage, not the warrior. There's no justifiable reason for a warrior to be squishy, ever.

[Mutantz]

Mages can be squishy all they want, but if i find a squishy warrior he'll be kicked from the group so hard he'll respawn in everquest.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :p:p:p

but u have to admit, lots of tanks aren't tanks... and i swear some clerics can take more dmg than them... but that doesn't mean i am a tank. i'm a pure healer and i almost always get 1-shotted by kq's boss.

i feel that i do my job fine, but i realise not many people know that HEALING BRINGS AGGRO. no, its not the freaking distance i am away from the mob, its cause of the bloody fact nobody hits the extra mobs that comes up and the moment someone heals anyone taking dmg, they take instant aggression from mobs.

But who the F' cares... seems to me everyone thinks clerics are just meant to heal and die and be forgotten about.... :mad:

[Ekairi]

all, you are all missing the most important point - imho.

the pots/stones cost money and why should i use my pots/stones when i have a cleric to heal me (i don't care if that cleric needs to use pots/stones and lose money). as long as i save my money i am fine.

that's what some fighters told me...

As a fighter that totally offended me.
Those Clerics are just as human as you and me.
Why should they have to sacrifice something for your gain?
Its just immoral to think that way...

[yamatanoorochi]

I have never encountered fighter jerks that have been mentioned on this thread. Sure, I see a LOT of idiots who don't taunt the mobs and a bunch of Leroy Jenkins, but I have never been harassed for 'not healing them/doing my job'. On the contrary, they usually show grattitude when I save them when they dive alone into a KQ mob.

Maybe I'm just lucky that I don't encounter jerks(yet). That or because I've only been playing this game for a week and is only lvl21 :p

[crystalorbie]

Hmm... I seem to be lucky enough not to really be yelled at for not doing my job so far, I just wish I could level faster so I can be useful in the Robo KQ.

And to whoever said that Clerics are secondary tanks, that is quite true.

During some of my runs in a King Slime KQ, the fighters had to go off and drag smaller enemies away from everyone, and somehow forgot about the King Slime.

What do I do? I go in and distract the thing. I died 2 out of the 3 times I did that, but it did help complete the KQs. I even lasted a long time for a level 7 Cleric at the time, mostly because all the other clerics focused on me over everyone else.

[SiphoneiMillei]

I don't mind joining a party of anyone that needs help with leveling or quests. But I tell them up front, that I have cooldown times and may or may not have a low quantity of sp/hp pots on me. I also STRESS to them that if they run off out of range from me, I ain't running after them, and they are on their own. If they ***** at me for dying...I just leave. I'm not wasting all my hard work on potions on people who think because they have a cleric, they don't have to REST!!! For sanity sake, hit the HOME key from time to time. ROFL!!!

At some point, I actually have to be the tank for a party. Usually when I am helping some lower level friends. The friggen things come after me for healing, so I just become the tank and heal myself. It's alot easier to heal thyself than to heal EVERYONE at the same time.

I became a cleric because I enjoy helping people. And, because I like the ability to heal myself when I get smacked. But when that help starts being abused, I just start ignoring people. I am still slightly surprised at how ignorant some of the non-clerics can be. I see alot of people whining about being revived and they don't say where they are. Then they have the nerve to complain that they weren't revived. And they've played the game how long now? I see it in FoM, more than Greed, but, I don't really spend all that much time in Greed anymore.

Then you get the idiots that die, whine for a rev and then get killed again. >.<

I don't think I have ever been yelled at for not doing my "job" but there's always a first time.

[Duskfire]

Let me inquiry one thing.

Do not expect me, as a cleric, to heal you simplybecause you said "Heal". I am not your slave, and I demand that you say "Heal please" or show SOME sign of respect. It is not my duty to heal you, nor is it my responsiblity to keep you alive, unless your in my party. In that case you're probably someone I approve of to be my friend.

Second...Do not assume that because I have the fortunate ability to heal myself instead of buy healing stones like you, that I should feel pitty for you. I work hard just like everyone else to attain power, and so do my friends. So for anyone to say "Well you dont have to buy heal stones" I wish I could slap you. Its frustrating, at the least, to not be able to do damage like your class (Mage, archer)

Third... Should you ever encounter a cleric thats in your party who does not heal, either of the following are possible: They're new, and dont know exxactly how to heal, They jerks and dont want to heal, or there not really to good at there job and just need some advice.

THIS... is the end-all-be-all. B-) Thank you.

And I agree with Siphonei completely!

[Luna_Moore]

Okay I look through here and I see alot of people complaining about healers not healing them. All right how about this? I've run into a lot of folks that don't protect the cleric how are you supposed to keep someone alive when they drag you into a mob of lizard men or something else that desperately wants to kill you and are doing a damn good job of it, and my tanker is 5 miles in the other direction. Screw you you're dead. How hard is that to understand? Keep em off me and I'll keep you alive. SIMPLE! Anyone I party with I tell them this but it doesn't CLICK and they get pissed off when I let them die to save myself. Sorry not losing 62 exp for anybody if I don't have to. If that makes me a bad healer then whatever I'm a bad healer don't party with me.

OMG! I know your pain! People seem to keep forgetting that if I'm healing them, I can't heal myself! If I heal myself, I can't heal them! I am a Cleric, NOT a miracle worker!!!

[Tylur]

The funniest thing I've ever heard.

"Heal me or I'll report you." In a Mara KQ.

I was sitting there doing absolutely nothing because somebody called me a *****, is what it appeared. They got past the censors though.

PS, I'm not lazy. I just don't heal/ressurect people that call me something I don't want to hear. I'm not their slave.

[Luna_Moore]

Also... I've never been yelled at. I have had a really stupid tank who ran out of my range... Could you remember I have a range limit? Stay put, please. And I've been harrassed a lot by random guys but that's cause I'm female and tend to go solo. *sigh*

I've lost 2/2 KQs thanks to no one making sure I don't get killed and a stupid tank that kept running away. *rolls eyes* I really want to win one by now. :(

I didn't just become a cleric to heal other people and I definately didn't do so because I wanted jerks treating me like dirt because I "didn't do my job", I became a cleric cause I love being able to self heal and can be beyond patient when it comes to leveling up. Plus being a Mage gives me a headache. lol. I respect you mages, seriously. If you're a mage and ever run across LunaDust, you can ask for a quick heal. Just do so politely. ;)

[Viral]

FACE IT FELLOW CLERICS, all we are to most ppl are bandades. I can honestly say that only three ppl on my celebrity friends list can actually be considered friends. And i always get whispered about "do u wan pt at ZK?" "do u wan pt at cp?" "can u heal our tank"(whispered by a cleric stronger than me) IT GETS ON MY NERVES.

lvl 36 cleric

[SpiritS]

Agree,most people just want to add a cleric in friend list because it is like getting some sort of insurance.
I got getting some weird whisper like hey can you revive me please I was at......(some place which is very far)If i nearby i would go and revive them.After getting revive they just run away.
Or something like can you help me to do quest...
I got meet the situation that you say viral,1 lv30 cleric just sit at there didnt want to heal their tank and ask me to heal for h** saying that is lazy to heal.:)

[charmle]

Okay I look through here and I see alot of people complaining about healers not healing them. All right how about this? I've run into a lot of folks that don't protect the cleric how are you supposed to keep someone alive when they drag you into a mob of lizard men or something else that desperately wants to kill you and are doing a damn good job of it, and my tanker is 5 miles in the other direction. Screw you you're dead. How hard is that to understand? Keep em off me and I'll keep you alive. SIMPLE! Anyone I party with I tell them this but it doesn't CLICK and they get pissed off when I let them die to save myself. Sorry not losing 62 exp for anybody if I don't have to. If that makes me a bad healer then whatever I'm a bad healer don't party with me.only i lose 696 exp!

[thechaz]

very true mate i get the same thing with my mates saying that i cant heal fast enough but its there fault because they drag me into high lv monsters that are higher than me then i die then they both die and i get the blame

[Kalipso]

Lately I was in situation, that I was taken to party with a fighter, I healed him, protect, fight at the same time by my own and then he just disband party. I decidet to go on then, 'cos why should i heal someone if i need it myself and it doesn't give me even a point of exp? And he followed me and start his demands of healing him all the time. That's really annoying. It's not like I don't like healing people. If I see someone in need I heal him. But if i'm fighting then it's my life that's important to me.
And one more thing. If I heal any of you people and die becouse of these please just say 'Thanks'. It's really polite you know?

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[Game_Hermit]

I have never encountered fighter jerks that have been mentioned on this thread. Sure, I see a LOT of idiots who don't taunt the mobs and a bunch of Leroy Jenkins, but I have never been harassed for 'not healing them/doing my job'. On the contrary, they usually show grattitude when I save them when they dive alone into a KQ mob.

Maybe I'm just lucky that I don't encounter jerks(yet). That or because I've only been playing this game for a week and is only lvl21 :p
Just wait, you will. I've played healers in several other games and trust me, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that's happened to me. Not just on healers, but on most classes. I once had a guy curse me out on anarchy online because my fixer refused to grid half way around the world just to buff his alt's NCU. I've been yelled at on asheron's call 2 because i didn't stop healing my group and let them die just to give some random guy a vitae heal 10 seconds sooner. I was once kicked out of a group on WoW for not healing, on my warlock! ***?! Do you not see my gigantic glowing summon floating next to me?! Do i look like a bloody priest to you?! Anyways, sorry for the tangent. Trust me though, when you get to higher levels where grouping becomes more important you will come across these idiots once in a while. Thankfully i'm still low enough to solo well. :rolleyes:

Anyone else get the occasional person who just spams you with group invites and won't stop no matter how many times you tell them to f*** off?

[Tanner_Longbottom]

Most of my Cleric friends heal me, like, when I lost just a bit of health... That'd be Goldey and Will_Raynard, contact them and tell them I posted stuff about them on here. XD I really do think Clerics need a bit more respect. I like them, I have a Cleric account (Not my main account, however.), and I think Clerics should enjoy playing as their class, and not listen to the ones that insult you while asking you to heal them. =)

[Cuddles101]

Just wait, you will. I've played healers in several other games and trust me, you wouldn't believe some of the stuff that's happened to me. Not just on healers, but on most classes. I once had a guy curse me out on anarchy online because my fixer refused to grid half way around the world just to buff his alt's NCU. I've been yelled at on asheron's call 2 because i didn't stop healing my group and let them die just to give some random guy a vitae heal 10 seconds sooner. I was once kicked out of a group on WoW for not healing, on my warlock! ***?! Do you not see my gigantic glowing summon floating next to me?! Do i look like a bloody priest to you?! Anyways, sorry for the tangent. Trust me though, when you get to higher levels where grouping becomes more important you will come across these idiots once in a while. Thankfully i'm still low enough to solo well. :rolleyes:

Anyone else get the occasional person who just spams you with group invites and won't stop no matter how many times you tell them to f*** off?

Really? I experience quite the opposite on other games. Whenever I've played a cleric / priest / white mage on other MMORPGs I've been given nothing but the utmost respect and reverence. People practically worship white mages in some games I've played. I remember a guy almost had a cardiac arrest because I buffed him for free when it was the norm to charge clerics for that particular advantage. I was in shock too because I couldn't believe my fellow clerics were charging to bestow blessings (which were our gifts) upon fellow adventurers.

I say the other classes in this game are pretty darn lucky that clerics don't charge for revivals or the HP / SP buff because all they have to do is ask nicely and they'll get it. Sometimes, they don't even have to ask at all. I, myself, sometimes heal those that need it while I'm moving from one location to the next and whenever I see a dead body I necromance it. >:3

[SiphoneiMillei]

Oh...I have seen some Clerics charging to revive someone! And it effing pissed me off. So I just revived the guy right in front of him for free! The other cleric was like "I need money!" so I just told him to go sell the effing crap that he doesn't need for his production skills! OMG....

I don't charge for reviving, but some people do tend to give me things. Some give me SP pots, someone tried to give me herbs, and one guy even paid me 2s. Course, I ain't gonna pass up freebies, depending on what it is. And YES, I kept the 2s...you effing kidding me! ROFLMAO

Had to buy myself a new hammer, my +5 broke. =/

But if anyone else sees another Cleric trying to charge someone for a revive, revive in front of them for free. Because charging is practically insulting to the nature of a cleric, in my opinion.

Cause think of the other classes and their abilities. Tanks don't get paid for being the punching bag, archers don't get paid to be the puller, and mages don't get paid for blowing the things up. So, why should someone have to pay for being revived???

[Cuddles101]

Oh...I have seen some Clerics charging to revive someone! And it effing pissed me off. So I just revived the guy right in front of him for free! The other cleric was like "I need money!" so I just told him to go sell the effing crap that he doesn't need for his production skills! OMG....

I don't charge for reviving, but some people do tend to give me things. Some give me SP pots, someone tried to give me herbs, and one guy even paid me 2s. Course, I ain't gonna pass up freebies, depending on what it is. And YES, I kept the 2s...you effing kidding me! ROFLMAO

Had to buy myself a new hammer, my +5 broke. =/

But if anyone else sees another Cleric trying to charge someone for a revive, revive in front of them for free. Cause that's practically insulting, in my opinion.

Cause think of the other classes and their abilities. Tanks don't get paid for being the punching bag, archers don't get paid to be the puller, and mages don't get paid for blowing the things up. So, why should someone have to pay for being revived???

You are absolutely right. What would happen in Mara KQs if all fighters refused to tank unless everyone paid them a fixed sum of money? I'll tell you what...Anarchy! I was in a Mara KQ with no fighters once. Instant fail.

What some don't realize is that the game is perfectly balanced so each class needs one another. Each class compliments the other and each class depends on the other. They all cancel out their weaknesses and multiply their strengths.

By the way, did that happen in Teva by any chance? I've never seen it happen in Apoline except when a mage needed reviving and he advertised he was willing to pay for a revival. I did it for free since I happened to be standing nearby.

I've never received freebies for reviving someone :( But I don't think I could pass them up either XD

[Duskfire]

But if anyone else sees another Cleric trying to charge someone for a revive, revive in front of them for free. Because charging is practically insulting to the nature of a cleric, in my opinion.

Cause think of the other classes and their abilities. Tanks don't get paid for being the punching bag, archers don't get paid to be the puller, and mages don't get paid for blowing the things up. So, why should someone have to pay for being revived???

I wish I had the virtual power to reach across and smack you v.v

But in all honesty, science limts me to what I can do over the internet.

However, your "Holy stance" on a cleric is very misleading. By your OPINION, and only your opinion, does a Cleric have to follow such holy actions. Other may agree with you, that "Clerics must abid by the ten commandments" But here me now... thats bull****.

I dont critsize you in having opposite beliefs, but for you to set a "Standard that all Clerics must follow" pisses ME off. Damned you and your getting pissed off cause some cleric is trying to make some cash off a raise. I think its very insulting that you believe everyone should follow your standards. Now that thats off my chest, yes it is much more kind of a Cleric to raise for free (I do believe in karma) but no, its not there obligation, duty, or responsiblity to act without reason. Maybe they are in a bind and recently have been in a bad streak with cash?

If I ever see a Cleric bribe a person for his/her raise, believe me I will not interrupt that person. I might, however, stand around should the person refuse to take that Clerics offer then raise for free (And I dont think I personally would bribe for my raises) but I wouldn't think about insulting that person or hagging them out for them using there gifts o bring in an extra buck.

[Iytjusa]

YO clerics have cooldown time so if u want heal FIND A LVL 15 CLERIC THAT WAS A DUMB NEWB THAT WAISTED ALL THERE POINTS ON SKILL COOL DOWN TIME!! srry for caps but god us clerics HAVE coold down time u know!! im tired of getting the HEAL PLEASE? I SAID HEAL ME!! what a newby Cleric! and etc im tired of cleric class bieng treated like crap! i have lvl 15 archer!! lvl 9 mage lvl 4cleric*and im already sick of it..* just in teva tho.. ALpoline im lvl 16cleric.-_______________________- and i wish u ppl would just accept the fact clerics HAVE COOL DOWN TIME!!! @_@:mad::mad:

[Nephthys]

I wish I had the virtual power to reach across and smack you v.v

But in all honesty, science limts me to what I can do over the internet.

However, your "Holy stance" on a cleric is very misleading. By your OPINION, and only your opinion, does a Cleric have to follow such holy actions. Other may agree with you, that "Clerics must abid by the ten commandments" But here me now... thats bull****.

I dont critsize you in having opposite beliefs, but for you to set a "Standard that all Clerics must follow" pisses ME off. Damned you and your getting pissed off cause some cleric is trying to make some cash off a raise. I think its very insulting that you believe everyone should follow your standards. Now that thats off my chest, yes it is much more kind of a Cleric to raise for free (I do believe in karma) but no, its not there obligation, duty, or responsiblity to act without reason. Maybe they are in a bind and recently have been in a bad streak with cash?

If I ever see a Cleric bribe a person for his/her raise, believe me I will not interrupt that person. I might, however, stand around should the person refuse to take that Clerics offer then raise for free (And I dont think I personally would bribe for my raises) but I wouldn't think about insulting that person or hagging them out for them using there gifts o bring in an extra buck.

I REALLY dont understand where you get off saying he's setting a "standard". It's called etiquette (however you spell it). I agree with him, clerics should not charge to revive. It's not anyone's fault but the cleric's if he's been in "a bad streak with cash". That's what I'd call a CUSTOMER. Thinking that your misfortune is always someone else's responsibility. Farm, just like everyone else, and sell what you don't need. Clerics are meant to help others, just like all the other classes are. Hell, I run around FoM just reviving people because I feel like it. It doesn't cost me anything. That's what the home key is for. Free SP.

Maybe I'd understand if revive was an extremely difficult skill to get, but it isn't. I love being a cleric because I love to help, not to leech off of other classes who aren't as fortunate.

[SiphoneiMillei]

Thanks Cuddles and Nephthys. And I never said every Cleric has to follow some "holy stance" in the game. I'm not exactly perfect myself. I ain't even religious. But that was the foundation of it. Why else is there a friggen cross on the female cleric's outfit??? ;)

And if someone is gonna keep asking to revive or heal, even after they were warned about the cooldown and that it takes TIME..then I let them die. They've already lost the exp points, the only thing we save them from is a walk back from town. Which, in some cases, only the first gate outta town! (Forest of Mist/Sea of Greed - Elderine, etc)

I didn't interrupt the guy trying to charge for revival, I told him it was just not right, and revived the guy for free in front of him.

What you do with your cleric is your business. But if someone WANTS to pay to be revived, that's one thing. But to charge anyone and everyone, that's absurd. Not everyone can afford to be revived. Especially if the charge is 1s or more. DUH! Not everyone is rich in this game.

And yes, this was in Teva. Forest of Mist to be exact, by the Elderine gate. (Where things spawn right there!)

I don't remember the guy's name off the top of my head anyways, only when I see him in game.

I don't think I am gonna be surprised if other classes that read this start thinking "Oh! Some Clerics are gonna charge to revive, I think I am gonna charge to act as tank!"

o.O

Bad enough we don't get respect when we ARE nice. Now we just look greedy.

[SiphoneiMillei]

YO clerics have cooldown time so if u want heal FIND A LVL 15 CLERIC THAT WAS A DUMB NEWB THAT WAISTED ALL THERE POINTS ON SKILL COOL DOWN TIME!! srry for caps but god us clerics HAVE coold down time u know!! im tired of getting the HEAL PLEASE? I SAID HEAL ME!! what a newby Cleric! and etc im tired of cleric class bieng treated like crap! i have lvl 15 archer!! lvl 9 mage lvl 4cleric*and im already sick of it..* just in teva tho.. ALpoline im lvl 16cleric.-_______________________- and i wish u ppl would just accept the fact clerics HAVE COOL DOWN TIME!!! @_@:mad::mad:

Actually, all classes have cool down times. Ours just matters the most in battle. At least by keeping the others alive longer. :rolleyes:

[johnkx]

YO clerics have cooldown time so if u want heal FIND A LVL 15 CLERIC THAT WAS A DUMB NEWB THAT WAISTED ALL THERE POINTS ON SKILL COOL DOWN TIME!! srry for caps but god us clerics HAVE coold down time u know!! im tired of getting the HEAL PLEASE? I SAID HEAL ME!! what a newby Cleric! and etc im tired of cleric class bieng treated like crap! i have lvl 15 archer!! lvl 9 mage lvl 4cleric*and im already sick of it..* just in teva tho.. ALpoline im lvl 16cleric.-_______________________- and i wish u ppl would just accept the fact clerics HAVE COOL DOWN TIME!!! @_@:mad::mad:


-.- i used my skill points on cooldown.. does that mean im a noob? No! it's freakin helpfull for clerics to heal fast.. .. 3 secs cooldown sucks! if i ever saw a Support cleric who didn't use their points on cooldown for heal.. he/she should delete his/her character..IMO.. lol

[Cuddles101]

That's another point I wanted to make. Clerics already have a bad rep in Fiesta, so why make things worse by coming across as greedy and self-righteous.

[dericcyk]

cuddles, if you look at it from the other side of the story, you'll see who's the greedy/demanding one, being self righteous isn't wrong in any way, people just have to accept it that they have to respect the person who's keeping them alive. One 'faked' slip of the finger on the heal button and you're dead, simple as that.

Will you heal people who treat you like dirt? Get taken advantage of? I've been to alot of good parties where the mages even pump their own pots when they see that there's alot of ppl in the party taking damage and the cleric can't heal fast enough. Instead of waiting to be killed and then cussing at the cleric.

[Andromeda]

As a cleric myself I would revive anyone that is dead providing I dont have to walk a long distance to revive them.

But when it comes to that stupid cleric buff I'll charge people 100c for the buff if they arent in my party and they want the buff badly. You get pestered non stop for this buff so when I'm not in a good mood I'll either charge them money or ignore them or pretend I'm afk

[cryragon]

Clerics do have a responsibility to heal/buff people that are in your party or KQ.

However, outside of those aforementioned range, charging a person for a certain service is perfectly fair, because you don't get anything in return for doing that. It's called a deal, which means just take it or leave it, simple isn't it?

There's no set of guidelines what to do with your cleric in-game. Why?
Because this is a role-playing game, you can be either a kind cleric or a bad-*** cleric.