View Full Version : production should be instant
thechaz
12-28-2008, 07:26 PM
is it me or does making mass amouts of items with any production skill take for ever and a day... why cant they be instant like most other mmo's ive just started on my scroll making after capping my decomping some time ago and making 700 scrolls at a time is really boaring for instance 700x3sec production time is 2100secs thats 35 mins of time wasted for 700 tier 1 scrolls that u are prolly going to drop or npc anyway. who else thinks it should be instant?
tsukyomidreamer
12-28-2008, 08:24 PM
I think you will find it is not instant so every one won't mass make them then sell them at the same time.
And yes i agree making alot of them at once is annoying but eh go make a coffee or watch a movie while your doing it that what i do >.<
sirviney
12-28-2008, 08:27 PM
Dude - Seriously, if you make this game have no barriers and make everything with no cool down, WHICH IS HAPPENING I WILL OUTRIGHT TELL YOU. Then this game will be crap, it believe me this game is heading down a dwindling spiral.
It all started with lvl 1-50 being obtainable within a week
Zh0ngGu0ZhiZa0
12-29-2008, 04:45 PM
indeed, let us take the challenge out of everything so that we can max everything out in the game in a couple of hours and quit the next day when there's nothing to do...
ahtai
12-29-2008, 08:26 PM
When else do you have time chatting with friend on what so ever subjects.
willemstyle
01-21-2009, 05:55 AM
Cooldown is OK. Alchemy takes time. That makes it even more special when you finally reach the skill.
A_geezy
01-21-2009, 10:40 AM
I never once made 700 scrolls to npc or give away all at once... it's funny to me to see people rushing to hit T3 scrolls thinking they will be able to make huge easy profits... it doesn't work that way bro, you have to spend time to get there. Imagine how stupid it would be if you could just spend 500s and instantly be producing T4 Scrolls? That doesn't even make sense in a rational world, but then again sense isn't so common anymore...
oyatoss
01-21-2009, 12:20 PM
Hmm! Lets make instant KQ's and quests soon too! cmon guys! O_O ...-.-
Hemmes
01-22-2009, 05:11 AM
Its to make sure rich players dont make thousands of scrolls a day ^_^ and get to T4 within a week.
I think its a good thing.
cwistmas
01-22-2009, 03:09 PM
Ok, lets get instant scrolls O and while your at it no cool times, kq's every milisecond!, no cast times, an arrow shot from a bow every 0.000000000000000001 second, run at light speed to get to places, get monsters to run at light speed, make characters blink at a gillion miles per hour, make the exp amount to level will become 1 for every level, and make lag a billion times more faster than usual! doesn't that sound just fantastic!!!
Thats about how real i gets folks lol.
mehe20
01-22-2009, 10:10 PM
Ok, lets get instant scrolls O and while your at it no cool times, kq's every milisecond!, no cast times, an arrow shot from a bow every 0.000000000000000001 second, run at light speed to get to places, get monsters to run at light speed, make characters blink at a gillion miles per hour, make the exp amount to level will become 1 for every level, and make lag a billion times more faster than usual! doesn't that sound just fantastic!!!
Thats about how real i gets folks lol.
Lol, yea it sounds so fantastic not to mension the massive lag caused just by blinking a gillion miles per hour alone.
A_geezy
01-23-2009, 02:33 AM
lol this thread = epic pwn... or fail idk which just yet... maybe both
Madcharo
01-23-2009, 07:20 AM
When you build somthing in real life, do you pick it up and it's automaticly built? The 3 second thing is you assembling the item. Unless you wanna prove that a magical scroll that does anything from raising your heath to curing curses can be made in under 3 seconds in real life, I believe they should stay as is. :P
palmfruits
01-23-2009, 09:48 AM
Sure it would be easier, but that wouldn't be much of a game. There are plenty of games that have production skills which require time.
mooooouse
01-24-2009, 06:32 AM
Hmm, it's a good and bad idea..
Would kinda ruin it in ways, but at the same time it would save a lot of time.
progrocker69
01-25-2009, 04:50 AM
This crafting system is an almost perfect ripoff of the one in World of Warcraft. I think it's rather simplistic and silly, but at least it works.
What I miss is the original way of doing crafting in EverQuest 2, which required having an alchemist make binders, tempers, dyes, inks, etc... which you yourself would then use to create the various pieces of the item you wanted to create. Once you had all the necessary sub-pieces you then created the final item. This required most tradeskill classes to be inter-dependent on each other, and there was a substantial risk of failure in the final process for the better items in the game. It also took as much as 10-15 minutes to put a Mastercrafted item together. Just ONE ITEM! It was a real accomplishment and gave the game a degree of realism which was just awesome - at least in the eyes of dedicated crafters.
Then, two things happened. First, a confluence of whiners and complainers who want an Easy button included with everything convinced the designers to eliminate the inter-dependence. It was now possible for any class to invest in sub-classes to make the other dyes, inks, binders, etc.... This was immediately followed by SOE hiring a tradeskill dev who didn't care jack about his job, the tradeskills, or the crafters and who basically ripped the whole system apart and let it stagnate for about two years. Everything item became possible to complete with a single combine, and failure was almost impossible unless you weren't watching the screen and/or were deliberately trying to miss important event countermeasures.
They now, once again, have a tradeskill dev over there who is doing awesome work and has patched things back together beautifully, and who regularly speaks to the community in the EQ2 forums. And that's good because I maintain that EQ2 is still one of the best MMOs out there, bar none.
Anyway, back to my point - as simple and easy as it is to whip up a batch of 200 scrolls or potions or stones in this game, you want to take away the fact that doing so actually requires a few minutes of standing still and twiddling? Like that's so terribly hard? Puh-leeeeeze!!
Zrnec
01-25-2009, 05:43 AM
Bad idea! Lol! That would be too easy!
safe_haven
01-25-2009, 02:09 PM
I don't really like the production scroll being long.But its one of those things in life that we cannot chang.There would be no challenge if you just make scroll instantly.Its kind of like a job,you have to take time and make something.I think you should have suggested to make the time be lower instead of no time at all.
mehe20
01-25-2009, 03:47 PM
Sereously if everyone is going to complain about everything, even about waiting for a potion to be made, then we should also complain about why I chose my name to be mehe or the colour of armour the npc gaurds are wearing o wait while we're at it lets complain about why the the earth is mostly blue!
Give it a break already.
twentytwo2
01-29-2009, 12:32 PM
lol this thread = epic pwn... or fail idk which just yet... maybe both
Epic PHA1L lol.
bl1ndf1r3
01-29-2009, 06:40 PM
lol ask if they make sc items for it that decrease the time to 0 ><
mehe20
01-31-2009, 03:50 PM
Probaly they will.