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Tamlinari
12-30-2008, 09:51 PM
GL Nei Summons A Giant Honeying In Elderine
Why is this possible?
The CS told everyone that the GLs did not have the power to summon mobs and especially not bosses.
But he can and did.
Why does Outspark lie so much to everyone about everything?
I would just like for them to be honest.
soojin
12-30-2008, 10:06 PM
i always assumed GLs were sort of assistants to the GMs, like " surrogate babysitters " (lack of better term) for when GMs are typically absent, but with less privileges and authority ..
so i wasn't surprised when he summoned the giant honeyings in town. i thought that was one of a GL's few privileges.. o: don't some of them host some boss events in-game, as well ? i don't know, i haven't been really playing actively for a couple of months, but it doesn't seem like a huge deal to me. :|
King_Obito
12-30-2008, 10:07 PM
Honestly I'd have to agree with you. They say the CL/GL people get no special powers either yet I see them running around with different color hair. Even people who simply make a no so great fiesta dancing videos get to have privileges we don't. Not complaining really, just what I notice.
FaytLeonheartOmega
12-30-2008, 10:09 PM
outspark picks favorites o=
Tommy2k7_uk
12-30-2008, 10:14 PM
mm someone in my guild chat said something about a GL n GM but i got dc and clicked the button n it went away i wonder what they said mm
Haseo64
12-30-2008, 10:15 PM
Well Nei was talking about the fact that he help create the program or something like that so thats why he might be able to.. idk lawl
seriously_
12-30-2008, 10:18 PM
lmao Outspark is full of surprises. =8(
Fre_ak
12-30-2008, 10:20 PM
not sure but i remember GM said that GL wasnt suppose to summon monsters...so GL can summon but they are just not allowed to....i guess GL broke a rule O.o
King_Obito
12-30-2008, 10:21 PM
not sure but i remember GM said that CL wasnt suppose to summon monsters...so CL can summon but they are just not allowed to....i guess CL broke a rule O.o
Lmao if you mean what I said, I didn't mean for CLs summoning monsters xD. I don't think they ever have but it wouldn't surprise me xD.
Fre_ak
12-30-2008, 10:31 PM
lmao ouppsss rika, when i said CL i meant GL...typo ^^"
Selkice
12-30-2008, 10:38 PM
I want their armor and level lol...
allyyCORE
12-31-2008, 12:37 AM
Honestly I'd have to agree with you. They say the CL/GL people get no special powers either yet I see them running around with different color hair. Even people who simply make a no so great fiesta dancing videos get to have privileges we don't. Not complaining really, just what I notice.
And I agree with you.
Although having different colored hair hardly counts as a special power,
It is like Leon put it, picking a favorite. I think Outspark owes us a response.
FaytLeonheartOmega
12-31-2008, 12:43 AM
And I agree with you.
Although having different colored hair hardly counts as a special power,
It is like Leon put it, picking a favorite. I think Outspark owes us a response.
lol the only thing outspark will respond with is more bugs for us to complain about its what keeps us busy <.< we always have something else to complain about and always end up forgetting what we originally were doing Dx
allyyCORE
12-31-2008, 12:50 AM
lol the only thing outspark will respond with is more bugs for us to complain about its what keeps us busy <.< we always have something else to complain about and always end up forgetting what we originally were doing Dx
Agreed; I'm still waiting to see the fighter animations fixed from the last big patch. Oh, you thought I forgot about that, didn't you GM's?
legendking3
12-31-2008, 01:39 AM
oh that was fun XD he had to rev everyone cuz no one could stone or use any item... he had an awsome hammer too o.0 too bad i got disconnected in the middle >.> still ya i've seen him summon them, heck i was killing an MD he summoned when i got disconnected.
legendking3
12-31-2008, 02:34 AM
oh btw if someone seeing him, tell him i was right, we are going into early maintance XD
solarwings
12-31-2008, 02:36 AM
lol the only thing outspark will respond with is more bugs for us to complain about its what keeps us busy <.< we always have something else to complain about and always end up forgetting what we originally were doing Dx
True dat. '
Sam_Tyler
12-31-2008, 05:38 AM
I am not sure why some people go of their way to continue to bring up negative things every time. First was the slam about the GL program itself, then the slams against GLs they've never even met, making up things about them. And now we're apparently finding yet more things to go off on them about.
I sometimes wonder if this is the only purpose in your lives, in-game, is to sit around slander the good attempts for the overall public for your own selfish reasons.
This thread issue apparently, to some, is a life altering experience that apparently effects their gameplay.
If you wish to place feedback you are welcome, however this continually negative attitude towards the GLs needs to cease as this is more of a hindrance to the players than anything. Allowing one's biased, ongoing derailment, and hindrance with these kinds of posts effects the overall harmony of the majority of players that we deal with each and every day. You're destroying their good times by attempting to slander all the work done towards helping and entertaining players. Yes, entertaining. I guess that's hard for some people to fathom.
I'm sorry if you aren't getting enough attention from Outspark, the GLs, or anyone else placed in charge of things but it really isn't as easy as you all think of it. We try to give the public attention as we can, but it's not easy juggling the dozen of whispers, questions, requests, and issues that get asked us on an hourly basis.
It saddens me to see one or two people ruin things for the majority of players and I wish they could see this and understand for once instead of sitting around and looking to nitpick the action or lack thereof that gets taken towards something. Be it Outspark, the GLs, or whatever.
Sam_Tyler
12-31-2008, 06:45 AM
We are volunteers. The concerns being voiced about favoritism are about the equivalence of complaining about a volunteer at some food festival being given a free lunch/dinner whereas the attendees had to pay for theirs.
As for Outspark "fixing" the issues in the game, they are not the ones who do it. OnsOnSoft does (that's the people license this game out to Outspark).
Unless OnsOnSoft issues Outspark the fix, it doesn't get addressed no matter how many times Outspark may bring it up. Sad but true. So please give more thought on the issue of blaming Outspark for something that they cannot control. :(
If there is a complaint about things not being fixed, please address it at the core of the problem/issue, which is not Outspark.
King_Obito
12-31-2008, 07:34 AM
Okay, I'm going to make a reply somewhat in order, also why didn't you just do this in one post?
Maybe we go out of our way because it annoys us? Also it's kind of hard for none of us to meet you considering you do kind of have a big job and we all know the GLs or any Outspark staff. Let alone do we make things up, I'm sorry when you guys summon mobs I must clearly be mistaken. :(.
GL Nei Summons A Giant Honeying In Elderine
Why is this possible?
The CS told everyone that the GLs did not have the power to summon mobs and especially not bosses.
But he can and did.
Why does Outspark lie so much to everyone about everything?
I would just like for them to be honest.
Does anywhere even in the first post which seemed the most angry, seem life altering to you? Because if it does I surely don't see it. I'm also sure we would give you feed back but considering I believe most of your mail boxes are full and you are always busy in game or outside.(not that I have a problem because I'd much rather talk to a GM or a CSR). I don't get what you mean about us ruining others time's. Actually only a good 55% (taking an educated guess) of the players ACTUALLY read the forums so I don't see how we are harming the awesome other players. Most the people that read the forums are complaining in the first place. Getting attention has nothing to do with the thread. I could, and I believe most people, could care less. Also I see atleast...1..3..5 people complaining here?
We are also volunteers in a sense I guess, and no need to deny, you definitely have your favorites considering I've seen almost all Outspark staff have them. For me I know OnSoft fixes issues and that's why I don't complain about them alot personally but that's not my concern.
Sam_Tyler
12-31-2008, 08:01 AM
You are not mistaken KingObito, there were mobs summoned. What I fail to understand however is how the OP's enjoyment of the game was effected over such a thing. This is not the first time the OP has written such negative things towards the GLs.
What people weren't told is that it was asked in shouts prior to the action if the people wanted such. It's not the fact of the summoning mobs, but the fact the OP has a very bad tendency to say things that are not completely truth or twist such in the general public that make it look like we're bad people. One or two people did not apparently like what the majority was happy and playful over. I find this odd, more so, that they have to come to the forums to soapbox it to the general public time and time again. Wasn't the first 3 or 4 times enough?
Unfortunately I know the original reason for this persons behavior, that's partially my fault. However I've moved on and improved the system since I started this program but this person refuses to let go of the past and goes so far as to continue to slander people they've never met on this ([GL]Fox).
THAT is what I have a serious problem with. This is not the first time, the second time, or even the third time I've had to cool the public down over flames made towards staff or GLs by this person.
When I make an address about the issues being on OnsOnSoft's side it is not aimed at you but the people who refuse to see this particular fact yet continue to cry/whine/rail on Outspark for not fixing fighter animations, or summoning or any of the other numerous issues. New bugs that pop up after patches? Those aren't Outsparks fault either, again, because they don't have any say in the patch. They make requests and recommendations but ultimately they can only work with what is given to them.
Education is hard for people who don't want to learn. All we can do is present the material, it's up to the players to learn it or ignore it.
Would me getting a [GM] title calm this matter or would everyone still continue to rail about my position as a [GL]? I ask because I'm getting tired of the people continually crying favoritism for something that has to do with background and education, not favoritism. If it was favoritism, you'd obviously see a lot more people being [GL]s. It is a title you earn, it's not just given.
You have to understand that SKiNG, Murdock, Steam, SnakeEyes, and even Dakkon had a hand in choosing me on this. With great powers come great responsibility and I'm sorry if people feel it is to much power for me but I feel I have earned my right in this. And I hate seeing people belittle what I worked hard to build for Outspark as a whole.
I'm sorry some folks will not see it this way and will continue to harbor hard feelings no matter what action is taken or strides to fix things. That ultimately falls on those individuals and not Outspark or the [GL]s.
King_Obito
12-31-2008, 08:10 AM
I did not realize the OP had made so many things such as these, next time I guess I'll look into it more clearly. Also I personally have no problems with GLs because they are generally very nice people and you guys are cool to hang out with and stuff.. but I dunno. Also what do you mean by "I ask because I'm getting tired of the people continually crying favoritism for something that has to do with background and education, not favoritism." Also sorry if my post seemed a bit harsh, wasn't intended to be but after I read it again it seemed that way xD..
Sam_Tyler
12-31-2008, 08:31 AM
I brought up the question because we get accused and hated from time to time about such matters.
As for the addressing part, I'm sorry but it was my fault for their original first issue. I admitted that back when it happened. It was addressed and handled. Lesson learned and I modified the program as it continued onward. However, I will not stand by and let someone with no clue about things to slander me time and again in the general public because they have personal issues with the [GL]s that they won't let go of.
I realize nothing I may say or do to this subject will ever change a persons mind once it's dead set against us. However I want to try and help the general public understand that this is not a favoritism position.
This position is not some game or some playtime. It has its relaxing moments but ultimately it has its responsibilities, its headaches (as you're seeing in this thread) and its overall ups and downs.
I can't tell if it's from jealousy, animosity, or just ignorance sometimes. I can't stop jealous people from making jealous posts and stirring up drama in attempts to make our lives difficult. I can't stop people who are dead set on making it their daily life story of trying to take us down by any means necessary. I can't stop ignorant people from being what they are.
All I can do is educate, respond, and inform the general public as it happens. One person, or many, at a time.
I am a human, I have feelings, and I not someone's personal verbal abuse toy because they aren't able to have and do what I have been entrusted with.
If a few people cannot handle that then I am sorry but I was entrusted with these powers and I refuse to let them belittle and slander what I worked hard to earn.
Shadowic2
12-31-2008, 08:41 AM
Alrighty, I'm going to close this.
If anyone has any issues with a GL, you can report/discuss that matter with a CSR by submitting a ticket. You can get to that in my signature.
Thank you.
-Closed-