Why is everyone always complaining about fighters?

[Tahfujin]

Lawl, TITLE is actually one of the rare fighters that I actually like.

[QUOTE=Tahfujin;1654110]Question...

Are these fighters you fight using +9 axes? if so are you using +9 gear?

I hate to see that you are complaining about taking +9 damage without taking +9 defense.

-.-", just think about what you said for a while.
lol kk I just fixed that thanks for pointing it out *cough*

*snickers*
I finally get a debate.

Why is it that a character should have to go out and buy/make +9 gears just to stand up against ONE +9 weapon.

And even still. a cleric/mage/archer cant do you in nearly as swiftly as a fighter does. Even still, It shouldn't be necessary for any other class to have to spend tons of money just to stand a chance against another class of that same level; If so, then THAT class is most definately overpowered.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

well the reason of this is that the weapon there is ONLY one that makes it complete there is not room for more damage adding items .Where as your defense is made up of multiple pieces of gear there fore it isnt really a whole.But even just +9ing your top can give you 1 or two more hits up against a fighter.

[TITLE]

I'm liked? :O Yay! -spam NM- oops, I'm a fighter -.-

[themichael]

I'm liked? :O Yay! -spam NM- oops, I'm a fighter -.-

Lulz.
I like title becuz he's one of the few fighters that aren't so far-sighted that they're blind to the immense number of imbalances that stand right before their faces; yet they see the few, seemingly trasparent flaws in the far background.

I immediatly dont care much for any fighters that dont see the imbalnce instantly. (though i dont dislike either)
EXCEPT ANY GUILIES OR FRIENDS.
(just in case)

well the reason of this is that the weapon there is ONLY one that makes it complete there is not room for more damage adding items .Where as your defense is made up of multiple pieces of gear there fore it isnt really a whole.But even just +9ing your top can give you 1 or two more hits up against a fighter.

Lol so now instead of dying in 5 hits you get 7 before you hit the floor XD

Well the thing is...why do fighters get all that power?
No other class you're lvl is gonna be able take you out in under 8 seconds (except an archer on archer/mage battle maybe)
Y is it that Archer, nor clerics get the "+9power*" that fighters do.
Because they're overpowered is all, Right?

[BLUESTAR☼INC.

[Tahfujin]

Lulz.
I like title becuz he's one of the few fighters that aren't so far-sighted that they're blind to the immense number of imbalances that stand right before their faces; yet they see the few, seemingly trasparent flaws in the far background.

I immediatly dont care much for any fighters that dont see the imbalnce instantly. (though i dont dislike either)
EXCEPT ANY GUILIES OR FRIENDS.
(just in case)



Lol so now instead of dying in 5 hits you get 7 before you hit the floor XD

Well the thing is...why do fighters get all that power?
No other class you're lvl is gonna be able take you out in under 8 seconds (except an archer on archer/mage battle maybe)
Y is it that Archer, nor clerics get the "+9power*" that fighters do.
Because they're overpowered is all, Right?

[BLUESTAR☼INC.


lol well at this point if you are full +9 you are able to get off more chances at stoning lol this may mean you have to kite a bit as mage and se the fighter up,as an archer probably you are already doing this.

but if you are a mage you dont have that many kiting skills you dont wanna let all his or her skills cd.It comes down to luck dots are still jaw rippingly painful to the non extended fighter and mdef still cant be changed.so it kinda
evens out.
The reason you dont get the +9 power that fighters do is because you simply dont have the strongest weapon =/ axe is still the highest damaging item but with +9 gears it is possible to last alot longer against it.the whole stacking thing isnt even supposed to be there also so that is a glitch that i do say tips the hat in fighters favor.


But overall it becomes balanced dots ignore defense still,mdef still sucks for fighters now the change is that you can last longer and actually have a chance to do something.

[themichael]

lol well at this point if you are full +9 you are able to get off more chances at stoning lol this may mean you have to kite a bit as mage and se the fighter up,as an archer probably you are already doing this.

but if you are a mage you dont have that many kiting skills you dont wanna let all his or her skills cd.It comes down to luck dots are still jaw rippingly painful to the non extended fighter and mdef still cant be changed.so it kinda
evens out.
The reason you dont get the +9 power that fighters do is because you simply dont have the strongest weapon =/ axe is still the highest damaging item but with +9 gears it is possible to last alot longer against it.the whole stacking thing isnt even supposed to be there also so that is a glitch that i do say tips the hat in fighters favor.


But overall it becomes balanced dots ignore defense still,mdef still sucks for fighters now the change is that you can last longer and actually have a chance to do something.

Love the personification :D

Back on topic:
as for the DoT's...
MATH TIME!
from what I see most 6x fighters gave roughly 2.5k HP
and at 67(my archer's lvl have 3 DoT's)
and lvl 67 Archer DoT's do..

53*10+55*20+57*20(<--not sure)+300=2520
(Bleed)+(Mist)+(venom)+(damage on impact)=2520damage

and stones heal every 6secs(i think)
so...

53*6+55*6+57*5+300=1233
2500-1233=1267

thats 50% and stones heal 75%
*fighter stones*...back to full health Full health...
(note i didnt include using mist on the fighter repeatedly but stilll that doesnt make to much difference.)

Moving on..
The axe is yet another example of the fighters ridiculous strength.
Why should they get 1 more weapon than every other class?
Why not give every class the same benefits that the fighters have?
Because of the fighter's "versatility?"

Hmm...should a fighter be so versitile that they do more damage than both DD classes?
I think not. XD
AND have WAY more defense as wel?
Is that not overpowered?

[TITLE]

:P Fighters are only versatile because.. they got one hand for a sword, another for a shield, the back carrying the 2h, and the tail bone (axe). Which is why they roll head over heels if that tail is off guard (Dragon Ball reference, Fighters are like Sayians, thick skulled, only looks for a fight and a weak boned tail) :D.

It's not the dmg of the fighter is out putting that's the issue, it's the fact that they have instant case skills leading to the auto-attack to still be in effect. If animation can be cut and requires a cast then that issue is solved making fighters 40% weaker if not more than before. A whole skill spam could go for 3k dmg and the rest of the 1k+ dmg alone comes from that lousy auto-attack.

Psh, just give me a permanent evasion buff, that's all I ask from OS. :D

[themichael]

:P Fighters are only versatile because.. they got one hand for a sword, another for a shield, the back carrying the 2h, and the tail bone (axe). Which is why they roll head over heels if that tail is off guard (Dragon Ball reference, Fighters are like Sayians, thick skulled, only looks for a fight and a weak boned tail) :D.

It's not the dmg of the fighter is out putting that's the issue, it's the fact that they have instant case skills leading to the auto-attack to still be in effect. If animation can be cut and requires a cast then that issue is solved making fighters 40% weaker if not more than before. A whole skill spam could go for 3k dmg and the rest of the 1k+ dmg alone comes from that lousy auto-attack.

Psh, just give me a permanent evasion buff, that's all I ask from OS. :D

Hmm...
As much as I love to stack; I would quickly give it up without hesitation if it meant not always checking the tiles on the floor for cracks whenever I get caught by a fighter.

That and that its unfair to mages.(and clerics since they have 2 skills @.@)

I just think fighters should 1sec cast on every skill. and If they dont do that just make it so that its necessary for them to complete their animation.

I think that would give the game a little more balance; if not total.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[great_wolf]

i wouldn't be so depressed about fighting a fighter if i could take them with +9 armor and bow, but sadly i still can't >.< all i can do is run and spam my poisons like hell and this is against a fighter with no +9s and my same level Q.Q the only good thing is that they hit 1/7 times if they are the normal muscle heads, but that one hit sure hurts XD

[themichael]

i wouldn't be so depressed about fighting a fighter if i could take them with +9 armor and bow, but sadly i still can't >.< all i can do is run and spam my poisons like hell and this is against a fighter with no +9s and my same level Q.Q the only good thing is that they hit 1/7 times if they are the normal muscle heads, but that one hit sure hurts XD

Lol.
How do u have a 86% miss rate? XD
is this muscle head lvl 2 or are you just that good? :rolleyes:
/scarcasm

Edit:I was just kiddin with ya

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[great_wolf]

pure dex, dex armor, and t3 evasion scroll help a tiny bit =P oops might as well say my lvl, 69 archer

[Tahfujin]

Love the personification :D

Back on topic:
as for the DoT's...
MATH TIME!
from what I see most 6x fighters gave roughly 2.5k HP
and at 67(my archer's lvl have 3 DoT's)
and lvl 67 Archer DoT's do..

53*10+55*20+57*20(<--not sure)+300=2520
(Bleed)+(Mist)+(venom)+(damage on impact)=2520damage

and stones heal every 6secs(i think)
so...

53*6+55*6+57*5+300=1233
2500-1233=1267

thats 50% and stones heal 75%
*fighter stones*...back to full health Full health...
(note i didnt include using mist on the fighter repeatedly but stilll that doesnt make to much difference.)

Moving on..
The axe is yet another example of the fighters ridiculous strength.
Why should they get 1 more weapon than every other class?
Why not give every class the same benefits that the fighters have?
Because of the fighter's "versatility?"

Hmm...should a fighter be so versitile that they do more damage than both DD classes?
I think not. XD
AND have WAY more defense as wel?
Is that not overpowered?


lol fighters are versitile enough be a dd class though they are also the class most known as tank.someone else I am not sure who not browsing through the entire 123 pages of it,but the fighter class does branch into Gladiator which is dd and knight which is tank.But enough on that subject.

Now we all know that fighters have alot of hp and due to low cd on stones by the time you probably can get them to half hp they can heal back to full,but eventually the dots+the damage from the constant usage of mist is enough to beat the speed of the stones .there are many times when I have been beat by the dots to where I have had to change to 1hand and shield.


Typical 6x "DD" fighter vs an archer usually goes wrong where the archer comes to a dead end at FBZ1 .But lets say we were in a non dead end zone fbz2,roumen town,fbz3 whichever fits.

The fighter has low hp(2.5k-2.7k) and presumably defense comparing to that of a cleric . even every 6 seconds you can get off maybe 3 natures mist before the stone cd that there is 900dmg out of half the hp it heals which is 1250-1350.with dots (lets say each is 50 dmg each since I am not sure.) 3 of them is 150 dmg per second in the span of 6 seconds 900dmg .However dots like stun doesnt hit 100% of the time .but if the dots are persistant it highly reasonable that if a archer isnt cornered he or she could take down a fighter with ease but luck is a factor.

[themichael]

lol fighters are versitile enough be a dd class though they are also the class most known as tank.someone else I am not sure who not browsing through the entire 123 pages of it,but the fighter class does branch into Gladiator which is dd and knight which is tank.But enough on that subject.

Now we all know that fighters have alot of hp and due to low cd on stones by the time you probably can get them to half hp they can heal back to full,but eventually the dots+the damage from the constant usage of mist is enough to beat the speed of the stones .there are many times when I have been beat by the dots to where I have had to change to 1hand and shield.


Typical 6x "DD" fighter vs an archer usually goes wrong where the archer comes to a dead end at FBZ1 .But lets say we were in a non dead end zone fbz2,roumen town,fbz3 whichever fits.

The fighter has low hp(2.5k-2.7k) and presumably defense comparing to that of a cleric . even every 6 seconds you can get off maybe 3 natures mist before the stone cd that there is 900dmg out of half the hp it heals which is 1250-1350.with dots (lets say each is 50 dmg each since I am not sure.) 3 of them is 150 dmg per second in the span of 6 seconds 900dmg .However dots like stun doesnt hit 100% of the time .but if the dots are persistant it highly reasonable that if a archer isnt cornered he or she could take down a fighter with ease but luck is a factor.

I would say that its definately true but...
When Ons On Soft planned the American version of Fiesta, they feared that we would be to powerful like we were in the Chinese version, so along with losing many of our skills; they also "accidently" added the "stumble effect" to moving attackers .

So that means when ever you cast a skill while moving your character briefly slows down, and if the pursuitor is moving at the same speed as you...
a good 1-2 meters is lost so all characters are eventually caught, unless a speed scroll is in play.

EDIT: Dont get me wrong; I still kill about 2/3 fighters by kiting every time i go to the pvp kq, but its only if i can tell they're foloowing me.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Tahfujin]

I would say that its definately true but...
When Ons On Soft planned the American version of Fiesta, they feared that we would be to powerful like we were in the Chinese version, so along with losing many of our skills; they also "accidently" added the "stumble effect" to moving attackers .

So that means when ever you cast a skill while moving your character briefly slows down, and if the pursuitor is moving at the same speed as you...
a good 1-2 meters is lost so all characters are eventually caught, unless a speed scroll is in play.

EDIT: Dont get me wrong; I still kill about 2/3 fighters by kiting every time i go to the pvp kq, but its only if i can tell they're foloowing me.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Lol XD killing fighters just take a bit of patience time and luck. And the stumble effect does suck.it isnt that fighters are overpowered just a few things wrong that makes it look that way. XD I will be keeping my eye on this little thread just incase XD

[themichael]

Lol XD killing fighters just take a bit of patience time and luck. And the stumble effect does suck.it isnt that fighters are overpowered just a few things wrong that makes it look that way. XD I will be keeping my eye on this little thread just incase XD

Lol.
As long as fighter have the most DeF and do the most DMG; I'm never gonna say they're not overpowered.
And also until they take more than 8 hits to kill some1.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[whatever1234567]

Hmm all these people talk about the stumble effect i will admit my archer is only lvl 52 but honestly i have never experienced this *stumble*effect. Is it possible the act of casting a skill cause's a message to be sent to OS headquarters then back and that cause a slight lag but faster computers can escape this? Just a random question/theory

[themichael]

Well it doesnt always happen.
I say it happens every 1 of 3 intant casts with me.

But I Use W, A. S, D to move so that may have something t do with it.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[great_wolf]

Hmm all these people talk about the stumble effect i will admit my archer is only lvl 52 but honestly i have never experienced this *stumble*effect. Is it possible the act of casting a skill cause's a message to be sent to OS headquarters then back and that cause a slight lag but faster computers can escape this? Just a random question/theory

that is a possibility, i usually can outrun most fighters and they have to cut me off to get to me to stun me >.< dang that attack is annoying because by the time i stop i have 3-4 fighters on me, one i can survive, two i still have a little hope, then three+ i just prepare myself for death. 900 evasion ftw when scrolled XD (lvl 69 archer)

[MartianMage]

5 pages since my last post and I see another fighter in this thread who thinks he knows class balance.

I'll quote myself:

I'm getting tired of all the fighters trying to come up with all sorts of BS scenarios. I just can't help but notice that you fighters seem to love dodging the main issue here. If the game is truly balanced as you fighters claim it to be then why is it that you are outdamaging the damage dealer classes. Just try to justify that before you start feeding us more BS.

A tanker class outdamaging the damage dealer classes is outright stupidity. I find it funny that most fighters think that as long as there's a chance, no matter how small that chance is, of an archer or a mage killing a fighter the game is already balanced. Seriously use your head a little bit and ask yourself this:

Why are we, the tanker class, outdamaging the damage dealer classes?

Hmmm... I wonder why... is it because fighters are overpowered? =/

[themichael]

To be honest, I just think most fighters want to protect their OVERWHELMING power and DEF.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[TITLE]

5 pages since my last post and I see another fighter in this thread who thinks he knows class balance.

I'll quote myself:

A tanker class outdamaging the damage dealer classes is outright stupidity. I find it funny that most fighters think that as long as there's a chance, no matter how small that chance is, of an archer or a mage killing a fighter the game is already balanced. Seriously use your head a little bit and ask yourself this:

Why are we, the tanker class, outdamaging the damage dealer classes?

Hmmm... I wonder why... is it because fighters are overpowered? =/

To be honest, I just think most fighters want to protect their OVERWHELMING power and DEF.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Not I..

Permanent evasion buffs for every archer! And this fighter here =D

[darthnish]

Not I..

Permanent evasion buffs for every archer! And this fighter here =D

lol title xD, how it going for you?

[themichael]

Not I..

Permanent evasion buffs for every archer! And this fighter here =D

If i ever missed a fighter my lvl with no buffs on twice in a row I would immediatly type "MIKE YOU PHAILURE!" while running right at that fighter to kill me, close fiesta, get on the forums, and claim to be a phail archer. I'd even put it on my siggy XD

Then I'd lay on my bed and cry my eyes out.
Hoping that all would be well tomorrow
[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[wannabeguyo]

I think TITLE and michael have a point. If fighters had cast times (Like everyone else!), that might actually create balance.

Dodge buff, Crit buff, and Entangle Por Favor.

[themichael]

Even if the cast time was only 1-2 seconds, that would completely diminish a fighters power to about 50% I think.

And plus I HATE going against smart fighters that dont risk missing Deva ans instead run right beside me spamming al their instant casts. But those are the ones that have passed the face rolling stage. XD

EDIT: maybe is shouldn't give not so bright fighters ides like that @.@
I may EDIT this post later and remove that.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[TITLE]

lol title xD, how it going for you?

It's going well. :P I still pester at my weak 1k EVA but I'll get there >:D

If i ever missed a fighter my lvl with no buffs on twice in a row I would immediatly type "MIKE YOU PHAILURE!" while running right at that fighter to kill me, close fiesta, get on the forums, and claim to be a phail archer. I'd even put it on my siggy XD

Then I'd lay on my bed and cry my eyes out.
Hoping that all would be well tomorrow
[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

:P Be prepared to meet me >=D

Oh wait.. I'm not even sure if you're on Teva D=

EDIT*
-Looks at siggy- ROFL! My bad XO

Even if the cast time was only 1-2 seconds, that would completely diminish a fighters power to about 50% I think.

And plus I HATE going against smart fighters that dont risk missing Deva ans instead run right beside me spamming al their instant casts. But those are the ones that have passed the face rolling stage. XD

EDIT: maybe is shouldn't give not so bright fighters ides like that @.@
I may EDIT this post later and remove that.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Lol, it don't matter if you edit it or not. Only fighters that come on here are the ones you don't faceroll O.O I kid, I kid! :D I don't faceroll I kiss every key skill for good luck and farewell to the ones that falls by it >=D

[whatever1234567]

Even if the cast time was only 1-2 seconds, that would completely diminish a fighters power to about 50% I think.

And plus I HATE going against smart fighters that dont risk missing Deva ans instead run right beside me spamming al their instant casts. But those are the ones that have passed the face rolling stage. XD

EDIT: maybe is shouldn't give not so bright fighters ides like that @.@
I may EDIT this post later and remove that.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

Nah i always immobolize you then deva if it doesn't stick i wait till immo is back up :D

[themichael]

It's going well. :P I still pester at my weak 1k EVA but I'll get there >:D

Lol, it don't matter if you edit it or not. Only fighters that come on here are the ones you don't faceroll O.O I kid, I kid! :D I don't faceroll I kiss every key skill for good luck and farewell to the ones that falls by it >=D
1k EVA on a fighter somehow seems to scare me more than 2k DEF @.@

Also:
Lol, it seems like you take evey negative comment and turn it into a joke every class can laugh at.
*Tips meh hat to that hella-funny-idol we all call TITLE.*

Nah i always immobolize you then deva if it doesn't stick i wait till immo is back up :D

I notice that most fighters try that.
But I also notice most fighters forget they were on auto-attack so they just kinda stand there for a couple seconds then continue the chase and by that time im far enough away to where I run until that debuff has worn out XD

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[great_wolf]

Not I..

Permanent evasion buffs for every archer! And this fighter here =D

Amen to that

[demon_h24]

< rant>
Let's sum up fighters, and then let's see if you aren't overpowered
Highest Defense
Highest HP
Highest Damage
Longest Stun
Quickest "stunning cooldown" (fear is 2 mins o.O)
Most HP/SP Stones (wth is up with archers/mages stones?)
Most Debuffs
No Cast times minus self buffs

Really do I have to explain each one of these? That is ridiculous. Archers get no defensive skills (fighters = stun and shield block buff, clerics = invince and all the other skills they have, mages = fear/stifle/chain fear or stifle/mana burn/slow) and woohoo we can kite but we do PHYSICAL damage and it doesn't phase a fighter's hp.

Mages are the only ones with a fighting chance because they have fear and deal magic damage. Even all the damage that mages are doing, fighters still have deal more damage to a mage than vice versa, not to mention that fighter can stun the mage longer with one stun than a mage can chain fear him...... -.-

Try and tell me that the long range is a deficiency of your class? Yeah like I run faster than any fighter, If i turn a corner. boom devastate and it's over and a mages fear is a 2 min cooldown, clerics are only ones that stand a chance and even then, they'll take 6years to take down the fighters stones, unless fighter stuns them for full 8 secs then restones in fbz.

Ugh I am tired of fighters not admitting they are overpowered and bragging of how they woop me in pvp. Of course you did, my class is broken! AND TAKE AWAY BK AIM I MEAN WTH I'M AN ARCHER WITH 909 EVA NATURAL AND I DON'T EVER DODGE A FIGHTER'S BK AXE WTH?!

</ rant>



lmao i agree with laz im a fighter and its true they over power fighters and even with my lvl 70 regular axe ( my non blue one ) i didnt miss a single deva on laz

[Stingerdan]

Waaaaaaahhh~! All I hear U.U *puts on earmuffs* There =D A full STR Fighter could pwn me ^^ Not to mention all my other chars.I'm not crying, whole bunch of whiners here xD

[alicina]

We're complaining about fighters because they're awsome. ^.^
*Cough* Awsomley overpowered *Cough* Lol. But seriously, they are overpowered.
Why is it that humans have more defence then elves? *Pokes meh mage self* O.o *Squishy sound when poking myself* Oohhh *-* *Squeak, squeak* ... *Pokes fighters*
RAWR!!!!
(). . . .()
( סּ )( סּ )
Ω
└┴┘
Eek :eek: *Hides behind a cleric* Save me!!! ;-;

Okay, anyways, I am actually scared of fighters. Lol, they come up to me and kill me because I'm an easy target. >.< But that's in PvP. While I'm out grinding some fighters will party me and they usually have a cleric so alls go well. ^.^

[Tahfujin]

5 pages since my last post and I see another fighter in this thread who thinks he knows class balance.

I'll quote myself:



A tanker class outdamaging the damage dealer classes is outright stupidity. I find it funny that most fighters think that as long as there's a chance, no matter how small that chance is, of an archer or a mage killing a fighter the game is already balanced. Seriously use your head a little bit and ask yourself this:

Why are we, the tanker class, outdamaging the damage dealer classes?

Hmmm... I wonder why... is it because fighters are overpowered? =/


>.> fighters are not just a tanker class they are also a DD class...GLADIATOR branch says it all -_-

[TITLE]

>.> fighters are not just a tanker class they are also a DD class...GLADIATOR branch says it all -_-

Hmmm, Gladiators fail in AoE DD, that's all there is to say. Yes Gladiators do look nice, my siggy shows it all.

[mehe25]

>.> fighters are not just a tanker class they are also a DD class...GLADIATOR branch says it all -_-

Who said Gladiators are DD's? -_-"

Just by their appearance? Everything about the 120 class change is purely based of assumption so please, drop it.

[wannabeguyo]

Lawl, but it's kind of obvious. They have no shirt and a giant axe. Compared to the knight that's fully clothed with a 1h and a shield.

[Stingerdan]

Lawl, but it's kind of obvious. They have no shirt and a giant axe. Compared to the knight that's fully clothed with a 1h and a shield.

xD I lol'ed

[themichael]

Gladiators are gonna be the only class that stands a decent chance against the archer classes Im sure.
Gladiators will probably be the PvP heads while Knights will be the actual tanking class.

ALSO: Now, at this 120 Cap raise, Fighters have the right to come close to DD's IMO.
Not early lvl.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[darthnish]

i wonder who has more dex: a sharpshooter or a ranger :o

[themichael]

i wonder who has more dex: a sharpshooter or a ranger :o

From what I've been told the Ranger gets the massive increase in EVA and are more AoE based.
SharpShooters Get a massive crit increase And very high damage. More single-target based.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[wannabeguyo]

If the increase in Eva is HUGE, then I'll have awesome evasion. 10/10 missed ftw! Gotta hit the hay night guys.

[TITLE]

i wonder who has more dex: a sharpshooter or a ranger :o

None.
The fighter right here though.. :rolleyes:

[wannabeguyo]

Lol TITLE. You are just an archer stuck in a fighter's body.

[TITLE]

Lol TITLE. You are just an archer stuck in a fighter's body.

Yeah!
Omg I can see it now! ~inhales~ I can just imagine myself carrying crossbow with blades of an axe shooting at 2secs per shot with 300~500 more dmg than a regular crossbow! I would be able to do a Immobilize AoE with one swing of the crossbow, NM my way through impossible hoards of mobs, break bones (yes bones, no wait, faces!) with the butt of my weapon, weaken my enemy's defense with spits of mock, entangle their feet with a demoralizing hit, cast critical buffs and, and!.... -takes a deep breath- Permanent DEX buff for life. :cool:

I digress, I am an Farighcher.

[saint_attila]

I digress, I am an Farighcher.

This....is the silliest thing.......I have ever seen.

[TITLE]

This....is the silliest thing.......I have ever seen.

T_T My imagination gone to waste.. I guess this is why I'm still a fighter.. :rolleyes:

[keratzoman]

Hmmm If I understood last posts topic was pure dex fighter.....
Compared to every other build (besides pure int),it phails.But it is seriously helpful against other axe fighter or hammer cleric.Or when killing archers.Trust me,before Bellow Knight (level 60-79 pvp levels),it is EXTREMELY hard to hit an archer with a fighter without aim scroll.

[TITLE]

Hmmm If I understood last posts topic was pure dex fighter.....
Compared to every other build (besides pure int),it phails.But it is seriously helpful against other axe fighter or hammer cleric.Or when killing archers.Trust me,before Bellow Knight (level 60-79 pvp levels),it is EXTREMELY hard to hit an archer with a fighter without aim scroll.

Huh? Fails? Lmao. Hilarious, that was out of no where.

Nice way of contradicting yourself there. "Fails. But seriously helpful.." Lol :rolleyes:

[mehe25]

Huh? Fails? Lmao. Hilarious, that was out of no where.

Nice way of contradicting yourself there. "Fails. But seriously helpful.." Lol :rolleyes:

Perhaps he was addressing "fail" to the other aspects of the game other than PvP.And addressing 'helpful' to PvP.

[asdis]

Fighters are the strongest class and also the (it seems) the easiest class.
Fiesta classes don't seem to be very even, fighters are the best tankers (and good at soloing too), well the other three classes are (mostly except for tanking clerics) range units.

[GoldenWidow]

This debate always makes me laugh xD

You all DO realize both Mages, and Archers get a deabilitating, stun like move with the next cap raise;

Right? LMAO

At level 100, or 110 I believe, both Mages and Archers get a move that freezes their opponents in place, you know;

Like Devastate does.

Have a nice day.

[kwadjo12]

mages get a move like that at lvl 110, but the skill has a 2 minute cooldown.

[themichael]

Archers get several.
Immobolize-Holds the target in place and locks skills while outo-attack is still available. It has a longer duration than stun though.

Entrap-same as immobolize but its a trap thats set b4 hand.

Blindshot-I've heard that it whites the screen out but Im not sure if it alters movement or attack.

And Hide which makes you invisable though you reappear once you attack or are attacked.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Eternal_Doom]

YEa sorry dude we already got some of that update i think or at least the date on that page says December 2007

December 2007...The ultimate hell for mages...

We might have got some of that patch but December 2007 mages damage was reduced, not increases and nor has it been increases ever since...

[viarenson]

yea..its truly fair.....
a fighter would get 1 chance to stun every 2 mins while every other class can either kite or spam diff heals...keep the good ideas comin

Fighters can heal as well.

To be honest I say let the CDs stay the same and drop Fighters M.def more. Make it just as easy for them to die to another class as other have with their own bane. If they did tip the scale more in this direction it would even it out. No class would be better than any other.
*edit*
I only say to reduce the fighters M.def rather than increase the mages M.atk because a Mages M.atk would effect all classes and pretty much putting things to how the use to be. Everyone agenst mages. With Fighters having lower M.def everyone would have equal fear to each other. The only class thats different would be cleric because that hurts everyone wallet. lol. Besides it's not like a fighters atking and stuning wouldn't still pwn a mage.

Warrior classes from my exp. playing MMOs are not always the best. DoTs usualy own the battle field. Back when I played FanalFantasy11 for example, Monk owned the battle feild. They are DoT class. They were broken in the sense to where only the black mages stood a chance agenst them because they had the stun skill which was very short and gave them a chance to run away. Monk owned until they made Pupetmaster, which I hear is the new ruler. However they are pretty much a monk with extra talents.

[pablin000]

Fighters seem to be the class of choice for really sick and degenerate minded people who just love to harass lower levels.

They call themselves PKers as though that gives them some sort of credibility.
In actuality they are just immature and sadistic minded people who assert themselves on other through a alternate identity within a game.
The Fighter class is their weapon of choice for this second life kind of power trip that they seem to be on.
The Archer class seems to be a second choice with their ability to poison but not nearly as predominant as the Fighter class.

The Fighter class is really tough and loaded with devastating skills that kill fast and they are very easy for simple minded people with very primitive intellects to level.
It is very rare to ever see those complete idiots in the higher levels harassing other players with either Clerics or Mages.
It is almost always the Fighter class.

It's just my opinion but it is true.

Degenerate minded people will usually choose the Fighter class.
That is not to say that everyone who plays the Fighter class is bad.
There are some that are great and very nice and intelligent but thanks to all of the idiots that gravitate toward the class the assumption has become that Fighters are egotistical pinheads who like to hurt and harass other players.

dude, who the hell are you calling "simpleminded, degenerated idiot"? that is a great insult to all fighters man, you can run your mouth all u can because thats the best thing u can do, because you can cry and beg and plea all u want to, but i got news for you, that the way things are is going to stay, no matter what. so calm ur kittiing-running-poisoning a$$ down man, and stop whining.

btw im pablin000 lv 74 fighter @ apoline!!!

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

dude, who the hell are you calling "simpleminded, degenerated idiot"? that is a great insult to all fighters man, you can run your mouth all u can because thats the best thing u can do, because you can cry and beg and plea all u want to, but i got news for you, that the way things are is going to stay, no matter what. so calm ur kittiing-running-poisoning a$$ down man, and stop whining.

btw im pablin000 lv 74 fighter @ apoline!!!

Seriously hes right in some way. Really have you ever met a Mage, Archer, or Cleric that has ever killed you over and over? I think if you ponder that a min you can say no. The only people that have EVER given me problems where fighters.

Also think about this, who are the main PKing force in the game? Fighters. What class is the mass majority in the 20 abyss killing people over and over? Fighters.

The bullies tend to pick the fighter class to impose their wrath on other people cause its easy. Now I am NOT saying all fighters are bad, I've got some good fighter buddies but when it comes to killing the mean pick fighters.

[kwadjo12]

Fighters tend to be the bossiest of the classes. They tell me heal and buff them when I'm trying my best. But they want to be "DD's" and the "leaders" of the party. And they call me a noob. I can't even get a simple thank you :( But not all fighters are like this. But a lot of them are :mad:

[saint_attila]

Seriously hes right in some way. Really have you ever met a Mage, Archer, or Cleric that has ever killed you over and over? I think if you ponder that a min you can say no. The only people that have EVER given me problems where fighters.

Also think about this, who are the main PKing force in the game? Fighters. What class is the mass majority in the 20 abyss killing people over and over? Fighters.

The bullies tend to pick the fighter class to impose their wrath on other people cause its easy. Now I am NOT saying all fighters are bad, I've got some good fighter buddies but when it comes to killing the mean pick fighters.

It is true that the majority of the PKers that hound on people are fighters. It is true that the majority of the people that post their 'conquests' on the forums are fighters. It is true that the majority of the ***holes in this game are fighters. It Is true that the majority of anybody that griefs anybody in this game is a fighter. It is also true that the majority of the fighters are DDs, which seems to make them stuck up ***hats. I've never seen an arrogant tanker before. It is also true that ALL DD fighters know everything about this game and have 9999999 alts that they have played to 89 and they know everything there is to know about everything in this game, so you better damn well listen to them, else you will end up being phail.

-.- In short, I dislike most fighters in general for these reasons. I know several fighters that aren't stuck up pain in the rear, and I am fine with them. I respect them because they aren't like every other fighter in this dang game.

Seriously, there are what......five true one hand sword and shield pure END or 25 spr rest end fighters on all the servers combined?

dude, who the hell are you calling "simpleminded, degenerated idiot"? that is a great insult to all fighters man, you can run your mouth all u can because thats the best thing u can do, because you can cry and beg and plea all u want to, but i got news for you, that the way things are is going to stay, no matter what. so calm ur kittiing-running-poisoning a$$ down man, and stop whining.

btw im pablin000 lv 74 fighter @ apoline!!!

And we are calling you a simpleminded degenerate idiot. Because that's what you have to be to get so angry over someone telling you what the majority of the players that play fighters are. Seriously, open your eyes and look around at the rest of the fighter population. I can name maybe four fighters that I don't think are 99.99% full of hot air pain in the rear end DD fighters that can only tank while stacking charms and T4 scrolls, and even then they need three clerics to keep them alive.

-.- Yeah, I flamed. Yeah, I don't like people that think that the truth about their class is a lie. And retaliate with all the flames you want. I know that many people who play Clerics aren't exactly rays of sunshine themselves, but hey, at least I know I can do my job.

/end rant, don't quote me on any of this.

[Nephron]

It is true that the majority of the PKers that hound on people are fighters. It is true that the majority of the people that post their 'conquests' on the forums are fighters. It is true that the majority of the ***holes in this game are fighters. It Is true that the majority of anybody that griefs anybody in this game is a fighter. It is also true that the majority of the fighters are DDs, which seems to make them stuck up ***hats. I've never seen an arrogant tanker before. It is also true that ALL DD fighters know everything about this game and have 9999999 alts that they have played to 89 and they know everything there is to know about everything in this game, so you better damn well listen to them, else you will end up being phail.

-.- In short, I dislike most fighters in general for these reasons. I know several fighters that aren't stuck up pain in the rear, and I am fine with them. I respect them because they aren't like every other fighter in this dang game.

Seriously, there are what......five true one hand sword and shield pure END or 25 spr rest end fighters on all the servers combined?



And we are calling you a simpleminded degenerate idiot. Because that's what you have to be to get so angry over someone telling you what the majority of the players that play fighters are. Seriously, open your eyes and look around at the rest of the fighter population. I can name maybe four fighters that I don't think are 99.99% full of hot air pain in the rear end DD fighters that can only tank while stacking charms and T4 scrolls, and even then they need three clerics to keep them alive.

-.- Yeah, I flamed. Yeah, I don't like people that think that the truth about their class is a lie. And retaliate with all the flames you want. I know that many people who play Clerics aren't exactly rays of sunshine themselves, but hey, at least I know I can do my job.

/end rant, don't quote me on any of this.


Well, I don't think there's much I can add to that. *applauds*

[saint_attila]

Well, I don't think there's much I can add to that. *applauds*

I said don't quote me!

*smacks with level 70 hammer*

[themichael]

Yea that was very...sadly....true...

BTW: did You hit him with the one MIke sold ya?

that would make meh happeh =3

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[pablin000]

Fighters tend to be the bossiest of the classes. They tell me heal and buff them when I'm trying my best. But they want to be "DD's" and the "leaders" of the party. And they call me a noob. I can't even get a simple thank you :( But not all fighters are like this. But a lot of them are :mad:

dude, what the damn hell are you talking about? fighters are not the bossiest class, if u have noticed fighters are the class that need the least amount of healing. btw what server are you on? that would also explain that ur fighters are a piece of crap. so calm ur complaining-critiziting-crying-a$$ down dude

[pablin000]

It is true that the majority of the PKers that hound on people are fighters. It is true that the majority of the people that post their 'conquests' on the forums are fighters. It is true that the majority of the ***holes in this game are fighters. It Is true that the majority of anybody that griefs anybody in this game is a fighter. It is also true that the majority of the fighters are DDs, which seems to make them stuck up ***hats. I've never seen an arrogant tanker before. It is also true that ALL DD fighters know everything about this game and have 9999999 alts that they have played to 89 and they know everything there is to know about everything in this game, so you better damn well listen to them, else you will end up being phail.

-.- In short, I dislike most fighters in general for these reasons. I know several fighters that aren't stuck up pain in the rear, and I am fine with them. I respect them because they aren't like every other fighter in this dang game.

Seriously, there are what......five true one hand sword and shield pure END or 25 spr rest end fighters on all the servers combined?



And we are calling you a simpleminded degenerate idiot. Because that's what you have to be to get so angry over someone telling you what the majority of the players that play fighters are. Seriously, open your eyes and look around at the rest of the fighter population. I can name maybe four fighters that I don't think are 99.99% full of hot air pain in the rear end DD fighters that can only tank while stacking charms and T4 scrolls, and even then they need three clerics to keep them alive.

-.- Yeah, I flamed. Yeah, I don't like people that think that the truth about their class is a lie. And retaliate with all the flames you want. I know that many people who play Clerics aren't exactly rays of sunshine themselves, but hey, at least I know I can do my job.

/end rant, don't quote me on any of this.

again this dude is an other a$$hole complaining about fighters, and dude learn proper english grammer PLZ, and while u may be able to do ur job, so can I, and even waay better than ur job, so stop dude, just drop it man. and ur not gona like me, cuz im going to be the biggest pain in in ur life, so much pain, that u can compare it to the pain and regret ur mother had while she was giving u birth, and stop talking IN GENERAL< THAT PISSES ME OFF,if u are going to talk smack about a fighter say his/her name, and stop generalizing!

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

again this dude is an other a$$hole complaining about fighters, and dude learn proper english grammer PLZ, and while u may be able to do ur job, so can I, and even waay better than ur job, so stop dude, just drop it man. and ur not gona like me, cuz im going to be the biggest pain in in ur life, so much pain, that u can compare it to the pain and regret ur mother had while she was giving u birth, and stop talking IN GENERAL< THAT PISSES ME OFF,if u are going to talk smack about a fightersay his/her name, and stop generalizing!

Erm I know this is off topic but...LOL he spelled GRAMMAR wrong. Also all the l33t talk your just contradicting yourself. You sir have no ground to stand on hes got a better point then you. When he says most fighters are jerks HES NOT SAYING THAT LIGHTLY. In reality every jerk you ever meet on Fiesta will be a fighter. You however just come back with no point just slinging insults wow your deffinetly making a convincing point.

Also your whole post was a run on sentence. =p

EDIT: Posting names is black listing which is against the rules, not saying you named anyone but asking him to would be telling him to break the rules.

[Nephron]

dude learn proper english grammer PLZ,

Hey, "dude"...learn it yourself first.

That aside, you've now completely validated every criticism that was just raised about fighters. Nice work.

[kwadjo12]

dude, what the damn hell are you talking about? fighters are not the bossiest class, if u have noticed fighters are the class that need the least amount of healing. btw what server are you on? that would also explain that ur fighters are a piece of crap. so calm ur complaining-critiziting-crying-a$$ down dude

Well, what server are you on because maybe on the servers beside epith are better.(sarcasm) Have you not at least seen one bossy fighter?:confused:
Maybe i just have bad luck because most of the fighters i've met aren't too friendly.

[totalynotlogan]

Fighters were always the most popular classes among MMORPGS......And for a good reason:Their built is better than any other classes. The stun is really annoying trust me. If they can't stun, a mage can easily overpower their hp and stone quickly. But stun stops that. Archers, they're luckier. They have 3poison spells that'll reduce fighters' hp down

i know this was a while ago so i will comment on it anyway...
1. archers have 3 poisens at lvl 40
2. poisen kitting slows us down...
3. fighters just deva because u can be a while away from them to use it
4. fighters are not the best class, they have big egos, but when every other class kills them they complain and say we charm. i personally think that either fighters shut their traps [most fighters are mean, some are nice tho] and admit that someone is better
5. archers have VERY low def, str, and magic stuff. we can barely hold any sones, were just built for AOE parties and not pvp. and piercing shot cancels out bleed and stuff wich is annoying, so worst build, worst skills, and worst stonce cappacity...aka HORRIBLE...yet fun ^_^

[pablin000]

Hey, "dude"...learn it yourself first.

That aside, you've now completely validated every criticism that was just raised about fighters. Nice work.

Erm I know this is off topic but...LOL he spelled GRAMMAR wrong. Also all the l33t talk your just contradicting yourself. You sir have no ground to stand on hes got a better point then you. When he says most fighters are jerks HES NOT SAYING THAT LIGHTLY. In reality every jerk you ever meet on Fiesta will be a fighter. You however just come back with no point just slinging insults wow your deffinetly making a convincing point.

Also your whole post was a run on sentence. =p

EDIT: Posting names is black listing which is against the rules, not saying you named anyone but asking him to would be telling him to break the rules.

[SIZE="6"]I'l be a gewd loosr here, ehem yeah, most fighters are full of hot air, but not me, although u might think so after this thread. and btw at that "SIR" thing im only a 14 year old boy with raging hormones, but i can give you a list of things i hate about other classes. and dont think im just closed minded, i have a lv 31 mage and a lv 20 archer, lv 20 cleric, and i like them all. meet me at the FBZ3 in uru and lets see if u still talk >:D

[mehe25]

again this dude is an other a$$hole complaining about fighters, and dude learn proper english grammer PLZ, and while u may be able to do ur job, so can I, and even waay better than ur job, so stop dude, just drop it man. and ur not gona like me, cuz im going to be the biggest pain in in ur life, so much pain, that u can compare it to the pain and regret ur mother had while she was giving u birth, and stop talking IN GENERAL< THAT PISSES ME OFF,if u are going to talk smack about a fighter say his/her name, and stop generalizing!

I think my lungs are dieing a bit inside from reading those two run on sentences XD--Had to take many breaths reading it LOL

Anyway, before you start asking somebody to learn proper grammar I'd like to advice you to learn how to put a period in the right spot.




[SIZE="6"]I'l be a gewd loosr here, ehem yeah, most fighters are full of hot air, but not me, although u might think so after this thread. and btw at that "SIR" thing im only a 14 year old boy with raging hormones, but i can give you a list of things i hate about other classes. and dont think im just closed minded, i have a lv 31 mage and a lv 20 archer, lv 20 cleric, and i like them all. meet me at the FBZ3 in uru and lets see if u still talk >:D

Yea? Well I'm a 13 year old boy!

And I can behave my self....right? right? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT???!!!! *Throws a table at pablin*

[Canboy]

[SIZE="6"]I'l be a gewd loosr here, ehem yeah, most fighters are full of hot air, but not me, although u might think so after this thread. and btw at that "SIR" thing im only a 14 year old boy with raging hormones, but i can give you a list of things i hate about other classes. and dont think im just closed minded, i have a lv 31 mage and a lv 20 archer, lv 20 cleric, and i like them all. meet me at the FBZ3 in uru and lets see if u still talk >:D


Oh no lvl 31 and below classes D: Sir can be used to class any male. And suck up your hormones. Im 15 and Ive never been like you >.>

I think my lungs are dieing a bit inside from reading those two run on sentences XD--Had to take many breaths reading it LOL

Anyway, before you start asking somebody to learn proper grammar I'd like to advice you to learn how to put a period in the right spot.






Yea? Well I'm a 13 year old boy!

And I can behave my self....right? right? RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT???!!!! *Throws a table at pablin*

Ahahah Table throw ftw

[A_geezy]

wow this thread is getting heated... and lol this doesn't even belong in the PvP section.

I said don't quote me!

*smacks with level 70 hammer*

*sniff sniff*

I smell a putty lil cleric...

*smacks with BK axe*

mwahaha I R F!gHt3R I 3aT y0uR squ!sHy BraIn$ bish ><

[TITLE]

>.>

Can this thread be washed away.. it's getting.. old.. Hmmm, yes, old.
Nothing left to complain.. Just that people are still posting! O.o (wait, that's me too.. lols)

On with the show!
Welcome to the "Why is everyone always knocking at fighter's door" thread of rancor. :rolleyes:

[themichael]

*ruins the washing away*

I'm not gonna complain or flame.

Just tell every one to stop complaining because its gettin annoying and not doing us any good.

~twirls fire extenguisher~
any1 else?

Back on topic:
Sure Most fighters are overpowered yet Most can be outsmarted with a bit of strategy.
Something that most fighters don't know much of.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[Arzeus]

-Nods- Fighters are overpowered.
But... In my opinion, they're no fun.
I'd rather be a squishy mage or an archer than an uber fighter. :3

However, I don't hate them. o; All classes have their ups and downs, and if we start complaining we won't get anywhere.

[mehe25]

-Nods- Fighters are overpowered.
But... In my opinion, they're no fun.
I'd rather be a squishy mage or an archer than an uber fighter. :3

However, I don't hate them. o; All classes have their ups and downs, and if we start complaining we won't get anywhere.

O complaining is long gone by now, its pretty much wars in this discussion XD

[TITLE]

NooooOOOOooooooo!!

Who bumped this thread?! >=O

I'sh shall eat thou who disrupts thy slumber! ... (something along that line :rolleyes:)

Fighter's are overpowered D: I just soloed my first GM a few days ago XD

I'll upload it another time this week.. or now..

[Arzeus]

NooooOOOOooooooo!!

Who bumped this thread?! >=O

I'sh shall eat thou who disrupts thy slumber! ... (something along that line :rolleyes:)

Fighter's are overpowered D: I just soloed my first GM a few days ago XD

I'll upload it another time this week.. or now..

-cough-
-Looks away in shame-
I was just bored. ;~;

[TITLE]

-cough-
-Looks away in shame-
I was just bored. ;~;

Bites Arzeus's leg off.. :3

[mehe25]

*Glues it back*

[fireyair]

*Stares*



Peace:cool:

[THr3eS01di3Rs]

-~Bump~-

Mwhahaha >=D

[TITLE]

*Glues it back*

-Bites mehe25's hand off- Rawr! No glue!

[akodi08]

they should make a day 1nce every weak that fighters r the WEAKEST class and all us other classes just own them flat out period

[Thebestever]

Fighters seem to be the class of choice for really sick and degenerate minded people who just love to harass lower levels.

They call themselves PKers as though that gives them some sort of credibility.
In actuality they are just immature and sadistic minded people who assert themselves on other through a alternate identity within a game.
The Fighter class is their weapon of choice for this second life kind of power trip that they seem to be on.
The Archer class seems to be a second choice with their ability to poison but not nearly as predominant as the Fighter class.

The Fighter class is really tough and loaded with devastating skills that kill fast and they are very easy for simple minded people with very primitive intellects to level.
It is very rare to ever see those complete idiots in the higher levels harassing other players with either Clerics or Mages.
It is almost always the Fighter class.

It's just my opinion but it is true.

Degenerate minded people will usually choose the Fighter class.
That is not to say that everyone who plays the Fighter class is bad.
There are some that are great and very nice and intelligent but thanks to all of the idiots that gravitate toward the class the assumption has become that Fighters are egotistical pinheads who like to hurt and harass other players.

While it is unfair that they are so strong, they aren't evil.

[themichael]

*Hiss*
1 month Necro.

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[solarwings]

Hiss? O.o -

[bloodykeena]

its simple, it seems that outta all the classes, clerics and fighters seem to hate each other more then others lol. why? because to a fighter, a cleric is a noob heal slave that must do what the fighter says. and the cleric feels that the fighter is a pig headed idiot and should show them some respect.

but then again, thats just been my experience as a cleric, i dont think to fondly of fighters for that reason. but i will admit not all fighters are rude.

mkeats - 3x High Cleric

[themichael]

*Hiss* Another Necro!

[BLUESTAR☼INC.]

[TITLE]

-Bites everyone's hands off-

Rawr!! No necro!!

And I join the rancor again! >=O

[bloodykeena]

noooo my hands !!! D:

[FallenMegaDeath]

Fighters were always the most popular classes among MMORPGS......And for a good reason:Their built is better than any other classes. The stun is really annoying trust me. If they can't stun, a mage can easily overpower their hp and stone quickly. But stun stops that. Archers, they're luckier. They have 3poison spells that'll reduce fighters' hp down

Would jus like to say not always is this the case i think theres more mages at the moment in fiesta then fighters because of mage all so popular nova and inferno.Just a thought xD

[FallenMegaDeath]

they should make a day 1nce every weak that fighters r the WEAKEST class and all us other classes just own them flat out period

That would be so not fair sure fighter have good moves but when u start to get in the 50s as a mage u will be able to pwn most fighter i mean unless there like super cookied ith extender and buffs and stuff so dont plan on seeing that just because fighter can pwn dosnt mean we should punish them i mean come on archers and mages get aoes so tis is like super easy to lvl clerics can pull big mobs they gotta give the fighters somthjing its not like they overpowered them just to kill u

[smrtcookehs]

umm, fighters are technically a support class, but they are also damage dealers. But, nobody complains when a fighter devas to protect you from certain doom, or anything of the like.....does anyone? If you give anyone power they can go either way. Give a mage a massive amount of sc, tell me they won't become corrupted. Goes with an archer or cleric as well. I've seen many powerful clerics in teva that can take down anyone.

[demon_h24]

Q.Q i feel so hated atm and im only an *** to other fighters lmao *gets a class change coupon if they ever make one*

[demon_h24]

a lvl 20 mage can do the dmg a 60 fighter hybrid does to me with a +9 axe if im using shield so i have a personal reason to kill 50- mages