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FaytLeonheartOmega
12-31-2008, 04:29 PM
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Celebrate the new year with a Helga raid o= anyone up for it :3!~

*~!Helga_Raiders!~*

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/helga4.jpg

~!Pm to Join!~

~!HellGate King Helga Raid Registration - Sign up Now!~
(http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137350)

~!Hellgate King Helga Raid [01.02/03.09]!~

~!Raid [01.01.09] - Failed - Information Gained!~

~!Raid [01.02.09] - Test Run - Failed!~

http://video.xfire.com/5d67e-4.jpg (http://www.xfire.com/video/5d67e/)

~.~ Ignore all the death's to busy trying to capture instead of living <3!~ Thanks Eririn for all the Rez's ^ . ^


Official Raid Date Confirmed [01.03.09] @ 4 ~ 8 PM Outspark Time.

.... no words .... just... no words...



Interesting Things Found while solo'ing and during raid:


Clerics don't heal when kited
Stifle/fear/manaburn has no effect on cleric mobs - Stifle Still Not Confirmed..
Hell Guardians have immense speed / cleric based mobs cannot be kited (regens)
Mob respawn rate : 2:30 mins
Average Kallap Warrior damage with 1.5k+ Defense = 2.5k dmg
Average Kallap Mage Dmg with 1.5k M.def = 2k ~ 2.5k Dmg
Hell Guardian Archer Poison Cannot be cured
Hell Guardian Clerics x2 cannot be defeated together must be separated
At Least 1.25k Aim + is necessary to not miss in Helga's tomb (Tested on mobs only)
Hell Guardian Clerics use cure every 5 ~ 7 seconds
Hell Guardian Cleric + Kallap Cleric Cure every 3 ~ 5 seconds
Cleric Mobs heal any nearby mobs that are low on HP before they heal themselves
Helga tanker needs more than 3.5k def to survive...
Hell Guardian Mages deal 3k ~ 3.5k dmg with 1.5k m.def
Hell Guardian Archers deal 2k ~ 3k dmg with 2k+ defense
Helga uses abnormality status Fear, Poison , and Stun.
Only Hell Guardian Warriors and Clerics can be 'Stucked'
Helga has 6 Body Guards 3 Hell Guardian Archers and 3 Hell Guardian Mages.
There are 8 Total Hell Guardians for each class total of 32..Hells...


*Poll added: Should we make a guild to help organize everyone into a single section to avoid confusion and the spam usage of /S and normal chat?

*~!Raid Ideas!~* - Eldryst & Teva

1) Have a mass swarm of players present so that helga will not kill everyone...although i don't think that helga's aoe will make it easier

2) The creation of 2 different aoe parties: one to pull helga, and the other to attempt to maintain agro. *Note* the ones that pull helga are expected to die so as to prevent excess mobs from agroing the rest. The problem is the organization, and getting people to listen.

3) Create a bait trail for Helga to follow into the passageway,around the area where it turns into a triangle, and station the main tank group at the end, along with sub tanks on the other sides. If pulled off it will grantee the Helga to be mob free and the only focus would be maintaining agro and dealing damage. But similar to the above to... there needs to be a good amount of ppl and organization

*~!Tactics!~*

~!Eliminating Hell Guardians!~

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Me and Eldryst did something to avoid the rushness of Hell Guardians if you hadn't noticed our first ~ w/e attempt we're on failed due to the mess of Hell Guardian mobs they move extremely fast pretty much rush and wipe out the entire field so me and Eldryst spent an hour gathering all the fighters and clerics and stuffing them into what we call the 'Emo Corner' :3!~ Raid worked out much better with all of these out of our way

I have no idea how Eldryst did it ask him for those details...



~!Acquiring the Hellgate!~

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/Helga1.jpg



This might just be your best friend!~ This little ore is key to getting Helga. No, of course not, you don't mine it, but feel free to if you want to go into a world of hurt this little ore is key to getting Helga to come out of its shadows along with its mess of Guardians.



*~!Eliminating the 6!~*

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These are the only mobs we have to worry about all the Hell Guardians are removed these will be the main mobs that will be lurking around we're going to remove these and reach the Gold Ore.

*Note there's actually 7 if you count the fighter (;

*~!Navigation!~*

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Blue: There are 5 Key points which can be greatly used of benifit (6 if you include the main one)

Red: There are 2 war zones this are which you will encounter mobs.

Green: These are Restore zones since the Hell Guardians have been moved back they can still heal the Kallaps that we are killing withing that region avoid pulling Kallaps there and avoid pulling Helga near that region as well for it will be healed.

Orange: This area we are NOT going to mess with or enter there is no reason to go that way and no reason to deal with more kallaps and more Hell Guardian Mages/Archers.

*~!Advance View!~*

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/helgamap1-1.jpg

Red: Warrior Kallaps
Blue: Cleric Kallaps
Yellow: Archer Kallaps (Green color used for yellow would be harmful to eyes.)
Boxes with X: Hell Guardians + Class
Blue Numbers: Key Points.
Orange Area: Do not go to any of those cord planes unless instructed to do otherwise.

*~!Mob Killing Priorities!~*


Since me and Eldryst have managed to remove all (If not most) of the Hell Guardian Warriors And Clerics there should be no problem dealing with the rest

There are only 4 based mobs Cleric/Warrior/Mage/And Archer
There are only 2 types of mobs Kallaps and Hell Guardians

Priority in Killing:

1) Cleric Kallap - Kill Always even if there are more mobs target this one first

2) Hell Guardian Mages / Archers - Take these out next we cannot handle a mess of Hell Guardians for they have Immense speed with that factor they'll rush and wipe us all out take out mages first then archers archers deal less dammage than mages.

3) Mage Kallap - Mages hurt the most in this place so remove this one next

4) Archer Kallap - These have poison no one can cure (Aside from GM) take these out and avoid poison

5) Warrior Kallap: These go next they're no biggie and no problem



*~!Hellgate King Helga Raid Strategy!~*



Before Hand - 2 or 1 raid party will be set up

1) Proceed to top war zone right above the gate [Red Zone]

2) Eliminate the 6 kallaps and any others that may present harm. Avoid entering the center or moving far to the right.

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/helga2-1.jpg


3) Proceed to Keypoint 2. And Eliminate Hell Guardian Archer he resides behind the water fall be cautious when approaching.[Blue Zone]

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/helga5.jpg

4) Main tanker will proceed to Gold Ore. [Blue Zone Above Keypoint 2]

5) All other members aside from Main tanker and Cleric shall retreat and move back to entrance. [Main Zone]

*5 a) Raiding party may assist in wiping out mobs that interact or attack the main tank.

6) Main Tanker shall drag Helga back to gate or Keypoint bellow gate. [Blue Zone]

*6 a) Main Tanker will tank Helga 2nd Raiding party enters Helga's Tomb. [Main Zone]

*6 b) All People that died from 1st Raiding party will warp back and or be rez'd and return to Helga's Tomb. [Main Zone]

7) Everyone attacks Helga and hope for the best.. [Blue Zone]

*~!Guild Raiders!~*

Guild name's & Masters as well as member counts (estimate of people that will be online on that day and be attending)

Follow this format:

Guild Name:
Master's Name:
Possible Online Member count:

(Discuss with members IG)

If we have more than one raiding party then we need to make a guild to tell everyone to move in if we just tell 1 person then we are killing time and by then everything has moved back. This is why i recommend everyone be in 1 guild to help communicate faster, efficient, and to help maintain order and less confusion.

All Masters of guilds will be assigned Adminship to add their guild mates

If you appose to this idea consider the thought of being a bit lost and out of the idea of the main raid.

*~!Rules and Regulations!~*


1) In order to be part of the raid you must be somewhere in the 7x+ Range of Level all others may come though please do not try to gain command or 'boss' others.

2) Any which way or from and method used to prevent the Successfulness of this raid either by Training or by war'ing to distract others or to even gain attention to ones self will not be permitted such acts will be handled by OS.

3) There is no 'We're doing it my way' we're doing this together there for we will all agree on what we are doing we will acknowledge and carry out what is being done anyone diversifying from it will be asked not to do it again continuing to do as one pleases using a forceful manner or tone will subject to having OS deal with that matter.

*Any other suggestions or corrections please notify.
* = Not Required / Note / Or used only if the option of 2nd raid party is formed.

All Information used off of this thread is © to Teva Server. Please give credit for our hard work and effort in this.

DemonBlitzKragor
12-31-2008, 04:38 PM
my leg would love to =D lmao

Roseanna
12-31-2008, 06:45 PM
I'd be up for it on my mage.

Celtic_Princess
12-31-2008, 06:49 PM
Good Luck hun!!!! <3333


I'd offer help, but as a lvl 74 cleric with 1.2k def...I die 1 hit in there o.o scary. Although I do have a 50% extender.

DF001
12-31-2008, 07:17 PM
Errr, you think you can prepare everything on a day? Good luck.

FaytLeonheartOmega
12-31-2008, 08:09 PM
Helga raid is in progreesssss (: we're close to success tho we lack people we removed all the Hell Guardians I.E The mobs that have T20 speed and own everyone their moved and out of the way this is going smooth we're just lacking the power we need I_C and Collision to join ><"

HeroicAce
12-31-2008, 08:26 PM
just post a time for the actual raid and ill join doesnt matter when. I'm assuming the one you are running right now is still practice.

FaytLeonheartOmega
12-31-2008, 09:47 PM
ah yes but we're failing quit bad due to the lack of people xD we've managed to drop helga down to 95% hp its a start but we'll get there

HeroicAce
12-31-2008, 09:58 PM
well for the next one you can add one more mage to the group. im not much for staying alive, but i can blast stuff pretty well:D
just let me know the time and ill come for it how ever many times you go.

King_Obito
12-31-2008, 11:19 PM
I might attend the next ;).

devin_nicolai
01-01-2009, 12:11 AM
*steals info* o: ><

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 12:23 AM
Also u forgot to add the place to pull helga (stand by the little random or near the left side of the big room)

And today we learned that the problem is not pulling helga its keeping agro ;o. Everytime i kick/mock it it fears me =.= resulting in helga going on a rampage on my pty, then everyone else...then coming back to kill my lonesome self.

Some ideas were suggested:
1) Have a masss swarm of players present so that helga will not kill everyone...although i don't think that helga's aoe will make it easier
2) The creation of 2 different aoe parties: one to pull helga, and the other to attempt to maintain agro. *Note* the ones that pull helga are expected to die so as to prevent excess mobs from agroing the rest. The problem is the organization, and getting people to listen.
3) Create a bait trail for Helga to follow into the passageway,around the area where it turns into a triangle, and station the main tank group at the end, along with sub tanks on the other sides. If pulled off it will gurantee the helga to be mob free and the only focus would be maintaining agro and dealing damgage. But similar to the above to... there needs to be a good amount of ppl and organization

Overall, charms and extenders are ur friends and don't be shy on the scrolls and pots. o.o i would also like to test some of the ideas if i can get people to participate.

Hakai_Miko
01-01-2009, 01:00 AM
I do think is better to make a guild for the raid.
^-^

Blackremnant
01-01-2009, 01:09 AM
If you have any use for a lvl 73fighter, count me in :D

Celtic_Princess
01-01-2009, 01:10 AM
Nvm, count me in:

Name: Matts_Girl
Lvl: 74 (I really am gonna try for 75 before the raid, even if it means sacrificing all my quests)
Class: Paladin
Stats: (using cs items and t3 scrolls) HP:6.2-4k (Depending on buff)
Def:2k
Mdef:1k
Use me where ya need me hun.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 01:20 AM
need a guild name if i plan on making one x_o

mmm tomorrow is going to be a mess of organization and discussion x_x

redjumpsuitapparatus
01-01-2009, 01:37 AM
Suggested GuildName: EpicFail D:

Roseanna
01-01-2009, 01:59 AM
Suggested guild name: EatFranksBabies

xD But on a serious note, something with the word Teva. TevaDomination? lol I dunno.

This might just be your best friend!~ This little ore is key to getting Helga. No, of course not, you don't mine it, but feel free to if you want to go into a world of hurt this little ore is key to getting Helga to come out of its shadows along with its mess of Guardians.
Tooooo funny... we were on Vendetta vent, and Koju was like "oooh gold ore." He runs for it and Curls is like, "dude no you're gonna get owned... OH [insert foul language here] HELGAAAAAAAAA!!!!" Koju runs off, tanking Helga pretty impressively til he gets ganged by Helga and a few other mobs. We end up back in FoS and he's just like "...all I wanted was the ore."

LMAO.

Funnier part is, that was at around 11:58pm my time and my mom called to say happy new year's. I couldn't turn off my speakers, pick up my phone, and pay attention to fiesta at the same time so I just answered it with everyone on Vent screaming like a bunch of lunatics. Mom was like "oh you're celebrating new year's with your online friends, I'll let you be then." LOL I didn't even bother trying to explain.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 02:10 AM
Suggested guild name: EatFranksBabies

xD But on a serious note, something with the word Teva. TevaDomination? lol I dunno.


Tooooo funny... we were on Vendetta vent, and Koju was like "oooh gold ore." He runs for it and Curls is like, "dude no you're gonna get owned... OH [insert foul language here] HELGAAAAAAAAA!!!!" Koju runs off, tanking Helga pretty impressively til he gets ganged by Helga and a few other mobs. We end up back in FoS and he's just like "...all I wanted was the ore."

LMAO.

Funnier part is, that was at l ike 11:58pm my time and my mom called to say happy new year's. I couldn't turn off my speakers, pick up my phone, and pay attention to fiesta at the same time so I just answered it with everyone on Vent screaming like a bunch of lunatics. Mom was like "oh you're celebrating new year's with your online friends, I'll let you be then." LOL I didn't even bother trying to explain.

HAHAHAHA LOL thats funneh (: i trust vendetta will be in full count for the raid D:< we need max number of people as we can get for this and Lordie x.x...

Roseanna
01-01-2009, 02:19 AM
HAHAHAHA LOL thats funneh (: i trust vendetta will be in full count for the raid D:< we need max number of people as we can get for this and Lordie x.x...
I'll drag em by their ears if I have to. :p And yes I missed having Lordie there.

My only concern about our ore trick and emo corner trick being in the post is that the other servers will steal our info. ;) I remember in scooby's thread when some guy tried to copy and paste his plan word for word into the Epith helga thread... but he failed and put it in scooby's thread instead.

Miazma
01-01-2009, 02:22 AM
Guild pride would stop me leaving Inner_Circle guild to join another guild for a run.

Roseanna
01-01-2009, 02:26 AM
Yeah I think it'd kind of stop me from leaving Vendetta too, but if it were needed for the better good of the raid I'd do it.

How many people can the outspark vent server hold?

WinterClown
01-01-2009, 02:46 AM
Nice job leon n eld 8D
Ill be there i guess :o

Snowbell187
01-01-2009, 02:59 AM
I wish I could help too but i'm way too low x.x
Good luck x)

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 03:17 AM
Guild pride would stop me leaving Inner_Circle guild to join another guild for a run.

lol make ur archer master <.<

but hey i just want an organized session so we can do this w/o all the messyness of 'Lets do it my way' then i really don't care if we're in the same guild or not xD if we can work together w/o it then we won't need to resort to making a guild it's just an idea btw xD we don't have to use it we can just deal with all the ignorance =x...

I'll drag em by their ears if I have to. :p And yes I missed having Lordie there.

My only concern about our ore trick and emo corner trick being in the post is that the other servers will steal our info. ;) I remember in scooby's thread when some guy tried to copy and paste his plan word for word into the Epith helga thread... but he failed and put it in scooby's thread instead.

o.o talk about stealing ideas but hey xD i'd like them to steal the 'Emo corner' Trick cuz only Eldryst knows how to do it no one else on any server ^ . ^ theres only 1 way to stick them and 1 way to get out xD and its not suiciding xD do that and you just trained everyone xDDDD

DF001
01-01-2009, 04:15 AM
You guys are going to a single guild for organization?

What if there's more than 100 people?

Oh well you will get less than 15, I'm sure.

moon-lord
01-01-2009, 04:44 AM
i want to joooooooin :DDD

<<< mage ^_^
<<< hope will do good lolz XD

pain-train
01-01-2009, 04:46 AM
awww man so theres a helga raid tomorrow? I can't cause im away on vacation for new years :/ I wish you guys good luck thou, GO TEVA!!

purpleronnie
01-01-2009, 06:44 AM
Count me in..ready for MC

Eririn

doberman90
01-01-2009, 06:48 AM
Good Luck guys

Celtic_Princess
01-01-2009, 07:56 AM
You guys are going to a single guild for organization?

What if there's more than 100 people?

Oh well you will get less than 15, I'm sure.

Oh DF hun, we got more than 15 in just our test run last night and that wasn't even announced. I know you're not a Tevian, so server pride gets in the way, but Teva has more great players than you think ;)

thedark17
01-01-2009, 08:03 AM
good luck guys, i would come if i was 80+ xDDD *so basically in 50 years*

P.S i heard something about Leon tanking helga lol? he shouted it somewhere ;):D:p:o:):cool:

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 10:20 AM
D< my emo corner everyone stay away

inferno10000
01-01-2009, 10:34 AM
1) a good name for a guild to raid helga is Helga_raiders or somthing like that.
2) to pull helga go next to or alittle pass the gold ore, if helga doesn't come run back and kill what does. 50/50 chance to pull again because of the fast respawn of all the things u already killed.
3) when running back stay close to the wall on the left side if you deside to run it back
4) its crazy in there....
http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/inferno10000/screenshot012.jpg

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/inferno10000/screenshot009.jpg

but rewards are awsome

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s71/inferno10000/helga_drop.jpg

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 10:35 AM
hmm leon a speedie thingy u'll need 1-2 backup teams, when helgatenoobie does his aoe and everyone in team1 dies team 2 takes over to tank him and kill him and so on o.O and not more tahn 50 ppl there, it will cause lag, which makes it even harder O.o
and the guildname= HellsGates? >D

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 10:37 AM
o.o i forgot to mention i blocked helga's hit many times...so tankers use a shield lol.

edit: im also gonna be playing around in HT today...who wants to die with me?

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 10:47 AM
i'll come with ya eld, just gonna help kev cap first ;D

Celtic_Princess
01-01-2009, 10:52 AM
o.o i forgot to mention i blocked helga's hit many times...so tankers use a shield lol.

edit: im also gonna be playing around in HT today...who wants to die with me?

I'm gonna work on hitting 75 so that I can use t4 scrolls and up my stats a little bit. I think I'm...13mil tnl haha, I'm in for a long, long grind tonight. GL though <333

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 11:51 AM
i need guild masters:

guild masters who plan on entering in this raid please let me know through here o= so i can sketch out how many people we have (an estimate)

i'll be updating a few items in the mean time :)

redjumpsuitapparatus
01-01-2009, 12:47 PM
that axe is scary :/

Xx_OP_Sanji_xX
01-01-2009, 01:33 PM
I'm in IGN: OP_SANJI

Celtic_Princess
01-01-2009, 01:36 PM
It might be a good idea once you have a semi-accurate list of participants to ressurect Scoobs party formation list so you can start organizing people :)

redjumpsuitapparatus
01-01-2009, 01:58 PM
SO u got most of the HellGuardians in the Emo corner rofl? THey aren't coming back righT? they stay there?

King_Obito
01-01-2009, 02:00 PM
They'll come back, when you attack the Kallops they come attack xD.

HeroicAce
01-01-2009, 02:03 PM
Im in IGN: CrystalDawn and im aiming to get to 75 as well so i can get some better aim. Also if you do make a guild for raiding let me know and ill join.

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 02:12 PM
SO u got most of the HellGuardians in the Emo corner rofl? THey aren't coming back righT? they stay there?

o.O well i can tell someone went there since they are farther from the corner now. However they should not do much harm unless someone runs in there.

King_Obito
01-01-2009, 02:13 PM
o.O well i can tell someone went there since they are farther from the corner now. However they should not do much harm unless someone runs in there.

Lol no, they just move.. just because you put a mob in a location it doesn't mean they are going to be like a dog and stay...

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 02:28 PM
Lol no, they just move.. just because you put a mob in a location it doesn't mean they are going to be like a dog and stay...

lol xD actually they stayed there for 6 hour period xD we did a 6h raid and they do stay there lol they haven't moved much xD they only move if someone uses demo or mock right near the back wall close to the enterance best not to stay there ._. once we ended the raid i stood there ._. and a cleric hell guardian charged and slashed me to the floor ._.;; left everyone else alone <_<"

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/fail.jpg

why me D:

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 02:35 PM
lols leon, when is the next raid gonna be?


Off topic: Just a lil reminder, sign up for the guild war tournament ppls ;D

nishant-rocks
01-01-2009, 02:44 PM
my mage has 1563 def with capped cleric and full pt idk how much ill have with charms though and i have 5k hp my fighter could help 2.2k def 4k hp (no extendors) and idk what my def is with charms or a pt with capped cleric

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 02:59 PM
btw we need tanks for the mage kallaps and guards o.O cause those things just rip through me.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-01-2009, 03:01 PM
lols leon, when is the next raid gonna be?


Off topic: Just a lil reminder, sign up for the guild war tournament ppls ;D

tommorrow or saturday depends on what ppl say ;x

Edit: Registration Open Please sign up (=

purpleronnie
01-01-2009, 03:49 PM
eldryst....get married so u'll be tougherr lmfaooo!!!! *offtopic kinda a little bit*

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 04:39 PM
eldyrst marry me, still off topic :D:D

OmniXeon
01-01-2009, 05:14 PM
x.X lol anyone else wanna marry me?

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 05:17 PM
why would they? >.> jk xD
man i hope we kill him Q.Q

purpleronnie
01-01-2009, 06:03 PM
dem hot eldrys lf wife <3

Roseanna
01-01-2009, 06:10 PM
I'll marry you Eld. :D Shh, don't tell Koju. ;)

purpleronnie
01-01-2009, 06:15 PM
he ish mineee >:D (dont tell curls lol)

*back to topic*

what time the raid again..is it around the same time yesterday

Xylvion
01-01-2009, 06:41 PM
blah leon get a time before 10pm for me will ya Q.Q
now when i post it's 2:40am just so ya know my time ;D

skater4lif37
01-01-2009, 08:47 PM
its meh sk8 yall know meh and love meh :3 (and hate meh)
ill be there but i doubt i can do anyhting there but is it cool if i can do some recruting ppl listen to meh :3

mredlodge
01-01-2009, 10:36 PM
Wow...alot of good info in that first post. I think with the right amount of informed players it could be done.

When a time and day is decided on, I think a few people should post and keep reposting in party matching and shouting in both Uruga and Eldy referring interested people to this thread. If they see the map and where the mobs have been lured to, it will keep people from going near the wall in the little gathering room.

I think the strategy that was used in the last raid was great, just needed more people in the "key 2" area to quickly kill the mobs that follow Helga and then get the heck out of that room.

Anyways, I would decide on a strategy, edit the first post to include it, and advertise like crazy in /s and party matching telling people to read this thread. You're still going to have last minute people showing up, but the more people who are informed, the better.

Forming one guild would make this whole thing easier, but like a few people have said, they don't want to leave thier guild. In my case, i'm the only member of my guild and have nobody to hand it over to. I also think there will be several last minute people coming. So as long as someone in each party knows what's going on, they should cover any info that is not mentioned or explained good enough in general chat through party chat. If you do form a guild, maybe try to get at least one member in each party to relay any pertinent info discussed in /g chat to thier party.

The more people are informed the better chance to get this done. Also, beg all your cleric friends to come. I don't think level is so important as long as they can "rev". Maybe the lower level clerics can be used to revive only so they don't draw aggro through healing. There will be plenty of players drawing aggro so they should be fine.

lordkaizer
01-02-2009, 12:15 AM
i'll join to this raid my char's name is Sckarton

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 02:00 AM
*Raid Date Confirmed. Added to OP. 2nd Practice Session in Progress for debriefing and strategy construction session. Please attend.

Wow...alot of good info in that first post. I think with the right amount of informed players it could be done.

When a time and day is decided on, I think a few people should post and keep reposting in party matching and shouting in both Uruga and Eldy referring interested people to this thread. If they see the map and where the mobs have been lured to, it will keep people from going near the wall in the little gathering room.

I think the strategy that was used in the last raid was great, just needed more people in the "key 2" area to quickly kill the mobs that follow Helga and then get the heck out of that room.

Anyways, I would decide on a strategy, edit the first post to include it, and advertise like crazy in /s and party matching telling people to read this thread. You're still going to have last minute people showing up, but the more people who are informed, the better.

Forming one guild would make this whole thing easier, but like a few people have said, they don't want to leave thier guild. In my case, i'm the only member of my guild and have nobody to hand it over to. I also think there will be several last minute people coming. So as long as someone in each party knows what's going on, they should cover any info that is not mentioned or explained good enough in general chat through party chat. If you do form a guild, maybe try to get at least one member in each party to relay any pertinent info discussed in /g chat to thier party.

The more people are informed the better chance to get this done. Also, beg all your cleric friends to come. I don't think level is so important as long as they can "rev". Maybe the lower level clerics can be used to revive only so they don't draw aggro through healing. There will be plenty of players drawing aggro so they should be fine.

i agree to all of this but the low level clerics ><" low levels scare me they tend to get over exited and fairly quick too from their rash decisions they tend to run into the battle field and eventually train us and all our hard work plumits xD

*Adding Party Formation and Official Strategy Soon.

WinterClown
01-02-2009, 02:03 AM
Ill help 8D



..as usual 8D

allyyCORE
01-02-2009, 02:12 AM
wow Leon, I give you mad props for such an impressive skill of organization.
Tons of respect towards you.

I'd love to help you guys out, but I don't really know how my stats look,
And as a Lv.83 DD'er, I doubt I'd be of any help. I will talk to my guildies
To see if they're interested.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 02:20 AM
wow Leon, I give you mad props for such an impressive skill of organization.
Tons of respect towards you.

I'd love to help you guys out, but I don't really know how my stats look,
And as a Lv.83 DD'er, I doubt I'd be of any help. I will talk to my guildies
To see if they're interested.

haha thanks tho the main part is getting the main 2 ~ 3 parties formed which are the tanker and leader parties those are the ones who will be dealing with helga =x i'm trying to eliminate as much confusion as possible yet obtain the force and members we need but we'll see how it goes

trust me we're going to need DD's especially on archer/mage mobs those type of fighters can seriously hurt those :) everyone has their role and part in this and all the high level help we can get the better off we all are as a server (:

Practice session tommorrow/today [01.02.03] =x join in any time me and eld will still be gathering information on the mobs :)

allyyCORE
01-02-2009, 02:29 AM
If I can get up early, I can get my fighter to 84 (I'm 71%).
I'm also willing to leave my guild temporarily so that I can join in making this raid more organized.

I will send you a whisper later today.

mredlodge
01-02-2009, 03:04 AM
i agree to all of this but the low level clerics ><" low levels scare me they tend to get over exited and fairly quick too from their rash decisions they tend to run into the battle field and eventually train us and all our hard work plumits xD

Hehe...I wasn't thinking "stupid" low...LOL. I realize lvl 6x and low 7x are not low levels but this is what I was referring to. In Helga's Tomb, they are low levels.

Obviously, the 8x and strong 7x will be doing the healing but I would think the ones that can't take a hit would be valuable for reviving purposes as long as they know where to stand. I wouldn't turn down any 6x or higher cleric especially if they are willing to come and practice to see how it goes.

You should put in party matching when you are practicing too so anyone interested can come and give it a try. Shout it too.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 03:06 AM
If I can get up early, I can get my fighter to 84 (I'm 71%).
I'm also willing to leave my guild temporarily so that I can join in making this raid more organized.

I will send you a whisper later today.

ight tho i'd prolly going to be afk won't be back till later today going to sleep for a bit after 3 days of no sleep im dead tired xD

try going for lvl 85 in 1 day o= i've done it :) not to hard just a bit of effort if you can get a BK Axe then u'd have a weee bit more of dmg and if its +9 :) ur set for DD ;P Good luck and pre-gratz (: hope to see you at the raid :3!~

Hehe...I wasn't thinking "stupid" low...LOL. I realize lvl 6x and low 7x are not low levels but this is what I was referring to. In Helga's Tomb, they are low levels.

Obviously, the 8x and strong 7x will be doing the healing but I would think the ones that can't take a hit would be valuable for reviving purposes as long as they know where to stand. I wouldn't turn down any 6x or higher cleric especially if they are willing to come and practice to see how it goes.

You should put in party matching when you are practicing too so anyone interested can come and give it a try. Shout it too.

lol yes i do know all the most effective and all ways of communication trust me being a high level player and being famous has created a link between me and the teva server when ever i do something teva tends to know the instant its done and not a moment too soon o-o kinda scary if you think about it and yes i do under stand 6x or higher people are willing to help out i don't mind them as long as they don't go trying to 'boss' all of us around i've noticed that in the past raids people show up (5x ~ 6x) and try to take charge its not how it works and they even force their way into command by going ahead and not obeying the instructions we all give as i said i don't mind if lower levels come but the instant they start getting in the way and refuse to work together and comply this raid has all but failed internally not because of the mobs killing us but by the ignorance in people =\

HeroicAce
01-02-2009, 08:56 AM
well i was looking forward to it but the one time out of all of them i cant make turned out to be the time of the raid. good luck killing him. maybe there will be another sometime i can join. hope you get him this time.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 09:17 AM
still need a guild name..

Current raid today o= for practice / trail run (: 12pm ~ 8pm Outspark time stand by for details (:

Forum Registration Member count currently: 48 Members =\ getting there x_o

Airi2008
01-02-2009, 09:28 AM
i'm up for it :D

doddzy83
01-02-2009, 09:30 AM
why not Helga_Raiders, i think someone already said that :D

edit: ohh and u need a SS leon?

Vistar
01-02-2009, 09:31 AM
i'm up for it, Vycious here btw :)

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 10:08 AM
why not Helga_Raiders, i think someone already said that :D

edit: ohh and u need a SS leon?

ah no unless your signing up to be tanking or helping out with the main party o-o
cleric/fighter basically =Q

I'll be adding any helga raid video's from today raid =Q we can disscuss those and see if the ideas we have work =Q

Guild Helga_Raiders has been made PM me to join if you wish to join early (:

[01.02.09] Practice Raid now commencing proceed now if you wish to join up and have a view on what we're doing (:

legendarrow
01-02-2009, 07:00 PM
good luck to you leon & everyone else whos participating :D (i would, but im a noobie 46 fighter T_T)

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 07:12 PM
bumping thread o= video posted in main post (: just a sample on how we plan on doing this raid Q.Q basic outline seems easy to cary out and well carried out somewhat effective Q.Q...comment away =Q im free to other ideals ><" but for now this is how we plan on doing this raid..

*Note: I think Eldryst removed the Warrior Hell Guardian spawning in KeyPoint 2 =Q not sure ><" hope he did if not we'll take care of it before we start (=<

~!Good Luck Teva Server!~

pain-train
01-02-2009, 08:05 PM
I might be able to make the raid tomorrow, though i dunno if i will leave IC to join the helga guild

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 08:14 PM
^ ^ any last minute questions / concerns or ideas / suggestions or notes or any other contributions to this before this is all finalized post away (:

inferno10000
01-02-2009, 08:29 PM
why not Helga_Raiders, i think someone already said that :D

edit: ohh and u need a SS leon?

*cough* i said that ~___^

doddzy83
01-02-2009, 08:43 PM
:D

if the raid is 4pm~8pm OS time 2moro i will about 1~2hours late :(

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-02-2009, 09:40 PM
:D

if the raid is 4pm~8pm OS time 2moro i will about 1~2hours late :(

don't worry we'll wait for u (: we should all be pre-pared by then =o raid starts at 4 o= meaning by then people should be arriving at helga's door =Q and gearing up buying charms and pots in about an hour or so we should have everyone comming and everyone ready =Q so u should make it just on time (:

purpleronnie
01-03-2009, 02:14 AM
nice video leon <3
kinda funny thou double 3.5k wiped u out lol...and leon ish flying :P

we'll do it tomorrow

GO TEVAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

OmniXeon
01-03-2009, 02:33 AM
;o go plvl an alt for a couple hours worth of guild buff leon xD

edit: I'm gonna try to get on early so i can move hell guards again whoever wants to help can follow me to the emo corner.~

WinterClown
01-03-2009, 07:34 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN_QXJ3R1Fk&feature=related :O Why's there never that many ppl that wanna fight helga on Teva? ._.

da_blue_wiz1
01-03-2009, 08:29 AM
Love to xD

Celtic_Princess
01-03-2009, 08:36 AM
;o go plvl an alt for a couple hours worth of guild buff leon xD

edit: I'm gonna try to get on early so i can move hell guards again whoever wants to help can follow me to the emo corner.~

I have a level 20 archer that you're more than welcome to toss into your academy for guild buffs. She should be easy enough to level

Rachel96
01-03-2009, 09:05 AM
If you do need to toss any low level cleric in, I'll come. After all, you paid more than overpriced for my +9 lvl1 bow. And I'm not that low level...44 isn't bad (if only Ice would get a move on and level > >). Dx>:3

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-03-2009, 12:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN_QXJ3R1Fk&feature=related :O Why's there never that many ppl that wanna fight helga on Teva? ._.

o-o if we can get the same number as bijou did in that vid then o_o we'd pwn helga O_o cuz they're dealing wif the hell guardian clerics/warriors LOL!

Roseanna
01-03-2009, 08:40 PM
I have decided that Helga's Tomb brings out even more stupidity in people than they already have. It was a nice try today, on the part of most people at least. But yeah... my only last idea is that we could get 3-4 well organized, capped or nearly-capped parties in and treat it like a KQ, not too many people but not too few either. And we'd probably need back-ups on standby in case people oversleep, dc, etc. Ventrilo would have to be a requirement. We can't type in fast situations like this, we need to be able to talk the instant we see or think something. But even with that... I'm not sure we can do it til next cap raise.

FaytLeonheartOmega
01-03-2009, 09:07 PM
http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa221/xeno_ff/helga6.jpg

I have no words as to what happened today <.< not to proud of what did happen and not to proud of what everyone did aside from that this raid is terminated and over. That being said I'm requesting this thread be locked and closed along with the other thread.

-Close by OP Request-

Miazma
01-03-2009, 09:51 PM
Leon dont be disheartened. I dont know what happened but beleive me it is going to take a lot of trials and fails before Helga is finally beaten.

The one thing I will say about previous raids I have been is people need to learn that we are there as a *TEAM* and there is no *I* in team.

Be proud of what you did learn and dont let it get you down.

Andromeda
01-03-2009, 10:19 PM
Defeating Helga will definitely be possible in the Lv 99 cap raise. Although its possible now it just will never seem to be because there is ALWAYS 1 person from every raid that screws up the entire raid. This was my first Helga Raid I joined and I did see a certain cleric not only go up to the gate before anyone was ready and got herself killed later that same cleric went to the right side of the main room when Leon and Eld told her to come to the left side where everyone else was but she ended dragging unneeded mobs to the side the whole group were at and eventually got us all killed because we were dealing with those enemies while Helga was running havoc in the room slaughtering everyone.

Every Helga raid attempted since Helgas Tomb was opened I've always seen people complaining that there is always a certain person that screws up the entire raid and todays raid was no different.

The cap needs to be raised once more before we will see a successful raid because (All the people who listened which I thank you for are simply not strong enough to handle all the mobs at once)

Pretty much to sum it up we can't triumph over the idiot factor so one more cap raise will most likely remedy this and I can bet anything Helga will be defeated at the Lv 99 cap.

Bueawa
01-03-2009, 10:22 PM
I really think helga can be beaten, but srsly, 3 tries isn't enough to work as a team. People need more experience in Helga Dungeon. I saw the 2nd test video, it was pwnage:P. Maybe you should increase the requirements a bit. That might help:D

Shadowic2
01-03-2009, 10:39 PM
Closed as requested by the OP.