View Full Version : Paladin/Berzerker
sedgezilla
01-02-2009, 02:53 PM
Hey, just wondering what second class most people are going, after warrior. I like to go the lesser played ones.
I'm looking for a class which is highly demanded in parties, so I was thinking Paladin if not too many people are going Paladin. Does anyone have more info about Paladins? Like, do they require any int? If so, what's it for?
clericalpwner
01-02-2009, 05:58 PM
I Think Definitly 'Zerker, cuz, idk bout u, but im more of the one to say, Lemme get in there and Tear some hide up!
night0mare14
01-02-2009, 07:45 PM
i might go paladin. They provide atk + def buffs for the party :o
Kuydo
01-02-2009, 08:38 PM
Berserker here, if I happen to get that far. I'm not a fan of playing a healing/buffing role in parties.
septembers
01-02-2009, 08:47 PM
Check my guide on paladins.
Beserkers are damage dealers
While Paladins are supporters.
sedgezilla
01-02-2009, 09:04 PM
Umm thanks I guess but you didn't really help at all. Your guide says to add dex. Why add dex? I'm sure 2str2spr would be more effective than 2str1dex1spr
fangdango
01-02-2009, 11:33 PM
I'm aiming for paladin this time.
Not interested in berserker anymore as I already tried and seen their skills. Their skills are quite slow to deploy(not all of them but the most of them were) and honestly too weak to me in terms of damage of effectiveness during battles at the Arena (Player vs. Player). Hitting more than one target or going in berserk mode is good and all but it leaves the berserker vulnerable out in the open as warriors are not fast with the sword(Other classes has the advantage when swinging in mid air as they were faster). Everybody knew how the skills were operated as berserkers were constantly using them, making it predictable and easy to remember in PvP.
Of course this is just my opinion and experiences as a berserker in Global Windslayer. Please don't take this post too seriously as for not becoming a berserker as I had a DIFFICULT time fighting others in PvP during the previous Windslayer.
~Fang was here!
bigc650
01-03-2009, 01:51 AM
i think am going to be paladin since fandango said some badd things about zerker lol
well i been a big fan of paladin so ama be one also.
FiredaggerX
01-03-2009, 08:14 AM
I'm not interested in healing and buffing
I'm more interested in the stubborn fight that i might even know i can't win i just want to take the opponent as much as i can >.>......i know weird, right? ^^;
keiiii
01-03-2009, 08:47 AM
I think I'ma go for the powerrrr so zerker for me. >>;
Georgie
01-03-2009, 08:49 AM
As much as Berzerkers can be called "weak" attackers, their HP is just crazy high, it takes a gang of teammates just to kill them, most of the time.
sedgezilla
01-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Is that the same for paladins? I thought paladins were the more tank-like class :S
Hessel
01-04-2009, 07:42 AM
Im going Berz 'cause it looks cool, and ive been Pally (Cleric) On Fiesta, so..
swinty
01-04-2009, 09:01 AM
I'm going to be a paladin since i like support but i dont want to be paper like i imagine priests would be if i was going to be squishy i would create a mage so i can blow everything up with AoEs :D
whiteninjam
01-05-2009, 09:55 AM
ima go for the zerker i always did like good melee attackers.
yugiman1
01-05-2009, 01:02 PM
Palidin beacuase they can heal and fight (close to cleric from Fiesta)they also have good stats and stuff there like tankers sorta and Berzerker there like the damage dealers that use 2hs and axes and i dont wanna go melle all the time and im a tanker and i like healing and being nice :)
sedgezilla
01-05-2009, 02:54 PM
wow loads more zerkers than paladins eh
matka_pluku
01-05-2009, 05:45 PM
idk if i want a bezerker or go with a monk and a fighter
corbra
01-05-2009, 06:18 PM
im going for ber. i like killing not healing even tho healing can come in handy its a little hard to chose -.-"
sedgezilla
01-05-2009, 06:22 PM
Paladin can only provide buffs they don't heal or if they do have a heal it's only a self-heal
blackguy729
01-06-2009, 04:20 PM
im think that paladen would pe a priest upgrade not worrior but anyway i want bazerker
nolifer
01-11-2009, 10:09 AM
ZERKERS!
And they had better have huge, massive 2h swords!
septembers
01-11-2009, 11:02 AM
Lol Paladins are completly pointless, unless there in partys.
Nixxy
01-12-2009, 11:25 PM
I was thinking deff be a Paladin if i got a warrior to 30.
But now im pretty sure id go Berserker.
Why? because ive only partied once so far in the game, and i doubt i will much in the future from the looks of things. Also, the buffs in pvp will help everyone else get points, but not me really compared to the attacking skills of berserker.
genisis666
01-14-2009, 04:28 PM
im going zerker all the way i love using rage -_-
fojib270
01-24-2009, 08:57 PM
For me...
The main arguement for choosing a pally vs berzerker is that people who usually like to use their swords over spells would probably be better off with pally and those who like spells more then the sword would probably go with berzerker. You may disagree but thats how i see it.
ral13
01-24-2009, 10:18 PM
If you like using spells more than a sword, then paladin definately isn't for you since it's spells are only auras affecting your teamates(and one spell for invulnerability for 1 teamate target) and don't damage the enemy directly.
septembers
01-25-2009, 02:55 PM
Pallys are pointless really,
ral13
01-25-2009, 03:03 PM
I plan on making a pally lol. I think thattheir buffs could prove to be useful in pvp.
dargongarath
01-25-2009, 03:23 PM
sedgezilla: pally's do infact have a team heal ability, that heals the pally and his whole team/party.
and pally's aren't entirely useless even though i prefer the zerker, there wasn't any pally in the GnG version that got past level 30 i think. and i only saw the one pally, they get their heal skill at 33, so i don't know if it is any good :D
ral13
01-25-2009, 07:37 PM
I think that the paladin definately has its possibilities in pvp. Imagine paladin with it's physical buff aura, bishop's defense party buff or health party buff(unless they stack), and eight other players on your team who are all built for dealing major physical damage. Or the opposite with a paladins magical attack aura, bishop hp/def party buff, and rest all mages/priests.
If the auras increase damage significantly for their entire team in pvp, it seems to me like the only way a berserker could match it would be if they could make sure their aoe attacks hit quite a few of the ppl on the opposing team doing loads of damage.
I haven't played the game that far yet, so I'm just guessing from what info I've seen on wiki/forums. Either way I think I'm going to be a paladin.
btw, does anyone actually know how long the auras last, and if they stack(probobly don't)? And if the paladins aura didn't stack with bishops party buff that would be pretty dumb...
(I guess this is what you call thinking out loud?..)
Thasmudyan
01-25-2009, 08:00 PM
The paladin physical attack aura (the level 30 skill) raises party damage by 7% in STD PvP. In PvE at level 30 it's 5%, so it seems to go up by 1% every time the skill is upgraded.
I didn't get past level 30 in CB but I'm guessing the other auras (defense, elemental damage, move speed) offer similarly sized increases. Seeing as the damage aura stacks with the warrior's damage increase, and the two warrior self buffs stack, I see no reason not to believe you can have all the auras active at the same time.
The auras have short durations (21 sec, I think the duration goes up by 1-2 sec every skill upgrade) but you can just keep recasting them, and in STD PvP their mana cost isn't really an issue because you have 55 points in INT. You will run out of health (or win) before you run out of mana even if you keep all auras active constantly.
Whether paladins are any good or not will really come down to how good the healing aura (level 33 skill) is. I'm guessing it provides a regen type effect, but if the regen rate is similar to the resting regen rate it'll be pretty useless. If however you gain HP every few seconds, it'll be quite useful in PvP as your whole team will be constantly gaining health.
One nice thing is the auras affect your whole team with no regard to distance as long as they're on the same map with you. A high level paladin will be a great addition to any team in PvP, although since they're stuck using the Warrior class skills to actually fight they'll be pretty weak 1v1. Even in team PvP, with only 1 aura at level 30 I was pretty useless. They'll be okay in PvE, though, since they can still AOE with the warrior's Double Attack skill, and the healing and movement speed auras should hopefully help with that. (Berserkers are probably a lot better attacking in PvE and PvP, though, so keep that in mind when choosing your class, since in PvE you are probably soloing more often than not.)
blood82
01-25-2009, 11:26 PM
do the paladin buffs effect themselves too?? or just the party??
Thasmudyan
01-26-2009, 06:23 AM
They affect yourself as well. Some of them aren't worth the mana if you're just soloing, though.
septembers
01-26-2009, 08:27 AM
Paladins are really boring without a party, if you gonna mass party in a place, a pally would be a great addition,
ral13
01-30-2009, 10:07 AM
I'm using a monk as a main char for damage dealing, so a paladin sounds like it could be interesting as a secondary.
jokergaara
02-06-2009, 07:34 AM
warrior is how to add stat??
keratzoman
02-27-2009, 03:47 AM
Hmmm monk still is better at Damage dealing as far as I know.And the game has few tanks to choose.Guess what?Only efficient is paladin ._..
I am gonna make my warrior a paladin for sure.You know,everyone says they love Damage dealing ,but still,without buffs they dont turn out that well.
maka201
02-27-2009, 07:59 AM
I woulb be a berserker, because they are tanks and damage dealers. Paladins also do NOT have a direct healing ability, rather they can temporarily increase the natural healing rate by a small amount.
wootie16
03-05-2009, 02:04 AM
warrior is how to add stat??
Str and spri
I'm useing 3-1 but many people says that full str is best.
btw - im taking bezerker! i like the high damage!
soavifox
03-05-2009, 10:30 AM
I still don't get how holy protection works. does it function like the other paladin abilities?
Thasmudyan
03-05-2009, 11:16 AM
I still don't get how holy protection works. does it function like the other paladin abilities?
The way it's described is as a targeted ability, which would mean it's probably like the priest heal or mana transfer - you cast it ahead of you and if the beam hits an ally, they're invulnerable. If so, that'd make it not self-usable, which doesn't help the Paladin, but still a useful ability if you can get a teammate to hold still long enough to not waste it.
I doubt it's an aura, but if it is, it'll be insanely powerful in PvP (make your whole team invulnerable for 6 seconds? During which they can freely beat the crap out of the other team? You'd insta-win any and all spam fests.)
Anyone from GNG confirm this for sure? If not, I'll let everyone know once I hit 49 (assuming they actually release the second classes...)
Madcharo
03-05-2009, 11:28 AM
While it's tempting to exploit the team buffs in Death Match as a Paladin, I'd have to go with Berserker. I'm more of a solo player and a Paladin just wont make it playing solo through the game. ;)
dargongarath
03-05-2009, 06:14 PM
lol there was only one paladin that i was aware of in GnG and he just became one like a week before outspark took over, so he was only lvl 30. all the warriors became zerkers in the GnG version cause lvling was so much harder, and the zerker had an extra aoe skill and made life easier :D
bojacked
03-08-2009, 01:25 PM
i think ima go zerker cause even tho paladins can heal they cant heal enuff 2 make a difference
and also the zerkers AOE and weapon shackle make it the best choice
weapon shackle-prevents the enemy from using weapons(SWEET!!!!)
jemz12
03-11-2009, 02:08 PM
rage anger hattred berzerker is perfect for me slashing threw my eniemies non stop the blood thirst of killing..... lol dont take this like im a crazy killer
virtueman
03-11-2009, 11:58 PM
from what ive seen people have been fooled about the bezerker because they kill slow there made to mob and take them all out so they are more like a tank in my opinoin and if you want the most powerful melee class go for a counter
synstar
03-12-2009, 01:13 AM
nobody even mentions the elemental boost or the speed bonus auras.
HELLO!!! they keep the warrior skills too. your elemental aura boosts your elemental attacks. the speed aura will allow the paladins to keep on top of thier opponents. not to mention if you are teamed with a good pvp friend you can make them godly with the invaulnerability shield.
you guys are not looking close enough to the paladins full potential.
i'm going paladin FTW.
Warrior 33 - DeathStrike
stat build. 3:1 hit 30 then 4:1
gotta keep that spirit even with my level.
jemz12
03-14-2009, 09:45 PM
i know what palidin are and how to use them but paladin just doesnt sound good to me