View Full Version : Q&A For Priests By Me
healingphenom
01-02-2009, 09:39 PM
Hey everyone. I'm HealingPhenom. If you played the first attempt at Windslayer you would probably know me, if not, I was the 2nd ranked player (a Bishop) in that version. I feel that I know the game very well so I hope my opinions/advice will help the beginners.
The title pretty much explains what will be going on here. If anyone has any questions regarding priests or bishops (although I can somewhat help with Dark Priest questions as well) I will be answering them to the best of my ability and giving my two cents also.
~HealingPhenom
septembers
01-02-2009, 09:44 PM
Actually you were the top ranked person you lost like 3 spots from hackers.
Youll always be the top in GNG in my books.
Lol im glad your back. .
A question would be...when do priest gets their aoe skil?
Funkeymunkey
01-03-2009, 10:51 AM
Skill name| Type |Level | Description
Heal | Attack | 10 | Heals other characters.
Remote Heal | Attack | 10 | Heals other characters.
I got a question! :) What's the difference between Heal and Remote Heal?
septembers
01-03-2009, 11:23 AM
Ones to heal other charaters and ones to heal you.
Sintei
01-03-2009, 11:34 AM
Moooooooooooooooo!
healingphenom
01-03-2009, 02:24 PM
@ September
Thanks, but I still see myself as 2nd ranked, because dvp did was a close friend of mine and he was ahead of me. However, that Toughguy was 100% a hacker.
Priests' first AoE skills is technically Holy strike, the first skill you get =P. That attack does hit multiple targets, but other than that, the next AoE skill is at level 49, Holy Lightning.
@FunkeyMunkey
Heal and Remote Heal are pretty much the same. They both heal other players that are in front of you. The only minor difference is that Remote Heal travels a bit further on the horizontal plain while Heal stops a bit sooner. These 2 healing skills allows Priests to quickly heal players by alternating Heal and Remote Heal.
@ September (again)
You were thinking of Self-Heal, which is the skill that heals yourself.
septembers
01-03-2009, 02:26 PM
Aight thanks phenom.
There was toughguy and Borris something..they both hacked.
Either way your still a role model to me and george o.o.
sedgezilla
01-03-2009, 02:29 PM
Heya can you tell me what the role of a dark priest is in group PvP/PvE?
healingphenom
01-03-2009, 02:35 PM
@ sedgezilla
Well the Dark Priests has many skill that do DoT (Damage over Time), so in my opinion they would be more of the ranged attacking class. They have a poison skill, a HP leeching skill and a few more that I cannot recall at the moment =[. However if the team is in desperate need, the Dark Priest can use the 2 healing skills to help out the party.
sedgezilla
01-03-2009, 02:37 PM
Okay sweet, thanks.
Cos does the bishop actually get improved healing skills? Or do they keep the first job healing skills, and just use those ones? If they keep the first job ones, surely you could make a pretty sweet healer/damage dealer by going Priest->Dark Priest, i can imagine it would be great for soloing
healingphenom
01-03-2009, 03:19 PM
@ sedgezilla
The Bishop gets party buff skills (Defence-UP, HP-UP) and healing skills (Self-Heal, Revive) while the Dark Priest gets more attack skills (DoT, HP leeching, movement confusing, forgot the rest). There is a pretty big difference in the 2 jobs after priest. Bishop is more for support while Dark Priest is more for attacking.
fyi - those are not the names of the skills, just what they do.
sedgezilla
01-03-2009, 04:44 PM
Yeah thanks I actually looked at the skills for bishops and dark priests. The only improved healing skill that bishops get is a party heal skill. Sure, that's incredibly useful. But what I was trying to say is that a Dark Priest with self-heal and mana shield(from his priest job) will be awesome at solo-ing(Well you tell me, are they?). They have damage skills, heal skills, offensive confusion type skills and a skill that returns damage.
The skill that returns damage can be coupled with heal skills and the mana shield thingy seems like it could work out well. mm im getting all excited and jumpy about this now. it's like ive had an epiphany or something
healingphenom
01-03-2009, 05:55 PM
@ sedgezilla
DPs do not get self-heal, only bishops. However DP is still a very good solo class.
EDIT - Sorry, I was thinking about Group Heal, which only bishops have. DPs do have Self-Heal.
sedgezilla
01-03-2009, 07:55 PM
Thanks :) I've changed my mind I'm definitely going dark priest now, thanks for your help
Danuve
01-05-2009, 10:53 AM
I would like to know what type of stat build to use for Both Bishop and Dark Priest.
n.n
dyan1
01-05-2009, 09:30 PM
Strategy wiki says that DPs get a skill called Mutation at 49:
Mutation|Attack|49|Transform an enemy into a pupu.
Do you know how this works? (ie. does is affect victim's def, does it work in pvp, can it fail)
sedgezilla
01-05-2009, 10:28 PM
yea it works in pvp and its an aoe type thing so like it affects all those in an area around you. not sure about def and stuff, and my 99% positive guess is it cant fail
philipko
01-09-2009, 07:07 AM
i heard bishops are kinda weak in this game and that i should go paladin if i want to do support. is this true? =/
healingphenom
01-09-2009, 01:26 PM
@ philipko
There are actually a few diferences in how both the bishop and paladin support.
Paladins have ATK, DEF, party Heal, and a few other buffs that I don't remember off the top. Also they are melee while bishops are ranged.
Bishops have DEF, HP^, 3 party Heal skills, Revive. More for keeping a party (pvp team) alive.
Overall, the paladin's buffs are for combat while the bishops buffs are for defense and keeping the group alive.
manic33
01-09-2009, 01:58 PM
@ September
Thanks, but I still see myself as 2nd ranked, because dvp did was a close friend of mine and he was ahead of me. However, that Toughguy was 100% a hacker.
Priests' first AoE skills is technically Holy strike, the first skill you get =P. That attack does hit multiple targets, but other than that, the next AoE skill is at level 49, Holy Lightning.
Actually Group Heal would be the first AoE. =P
I think you get that at 30. Can't remember.
healingphenom
01-09-2009, 11:58 PM
@ manic33
actually, group heal is not an AoE attack. It isn't even an AoE Buff. The skills heals everyone (team/party) regardless of where they are on the same map. So group heal isn't classified as AoE since it isn't an area. Also I'd like to correct myself and say holy strike is more along the lines of a piercing attack, not an AoE.
vye21
01-10-2009, 09:36 AM
@ manic33
Also I'd like to correct myself and say holy strike is more along the lines of a piercing attack, not an AoE.
was just gonna ask about that because my holy strike hadn't been aoe-ing so far ;p
anyways, can you explain the pierce attack bit ? do the monsters have to be close to each other, or does it pierce after a certain skill level ?
also, semi-unrelated but whenever i use holy strike, i see the damage (double digits) and then it looks as if there's a second green number damage (single digit) but unfortunately it is always covered by the higher damage so i can't see it properly. am i just imagining things or does holy strike hit the same mob multiple times ?
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and for a completely different question:
i'm completely satisfied with my priest as it is right now, my full int build does a lot of damage to monsters and i'm not really feeling the hp deficiency much. my question is - is there any way to make those first 10 levels go faster when you do single digit damage on everything and it can take up to 20 hits to kill a single monster?
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and another question (sorry)
are priests considered "cheap" if they run away and heal themselves in arena ? i do it all the time, partly due to the fact that my full int build means i have a smaller hp pool than everyone else and also because ... well ... i'm a healer! if i didn't heal then i would just be a watered down mage -.-"
manic33
01-10-2009, 02:06 PM
@ manic33
actually, group heal is not an AoE attack. It isn't even an AoE Buff. The skills heals everyone (team/party) regardless of where they are on the same map. So group heal isn't classified as AoE since it isn't an area. Also I'd like to correct myself and say holy strike is more along the lines of a piercing attack, not an AoE.
Wow! Group Heal is even better then I thought! xD I can't wait to get it! I just hope the cool down isn't horrible...
I haven't seen Holy Strike ever hit more then one mob. Is there a certain way to do it?
healingphenom
01-10-2009, 08:47 PM
@ vye21
Question #1
Basically holy strike hits a monster, than burns the other monsters behind the first monster (for less damage). The monsters have to be pretty close to each other for the residual damage to take place.
Question #2
If you are going full int, the first 10 levels are quite slow, but once you hit priest you level really quick with holy strike. If you mob monsters on certain maps, leveling is really easy.
Question #3
People do cry about it, but what they don't realize is that we are priests, we will obviously heal ourselves if we take damage. Duh =P
@ manic33
The max amount of monsters holy strike can hit (first attack and the residual damage) is 6. Maybe 7 but I'm not 100% sure. if you have a mob of more than that number, some of the monsters will continue walking towards you even if you attacked the mob with holy strike.
b0riqua
01-12-2009, 02:57 PM
I wonder, do we (as priests) get XP for healing others?
because I havent seen any xp diff yet..
manic33
01-12-2009, 07:04 PM
No we don't get any exp for healing.
dyan1
01-12-2009, 09:50 PM
it seems that if you enter pvp as a non-novice class, all your skills (like heal and stuff) become higher level. is that supposed to happen?
and if yes to the above question, why isn't the range for holy strike getting any better for me compared to outside pvp? after all, increased effective range is a skill....
healingphenom
01-12-2009, 11:31 PM
@ dyan1
Yes your skills do become higher level. As well as your def and elemental def. All your stats become 55.
For that range issue, honestly, there is such a small difference in the range as the skills levels up, it's quite sad to be honest. Level 1 range increase is only like 10-20 pixels shorter than, lets say, level 6. It's pretty terrible.
vye21
01-13-2009, 11:33 AM
so should we bother with the increase range skill ? D;
healingphenom
01-13-2009, 12:46 PM
@ vye21
It doesn't hurt to get it, but if you are completely broke, save you money. Pretty much if you have the money, you might as well get the skill and level it up.
blood82
01-13-2009, 04:05 PM
what does strike of darkness do?? I tried shooting it at mobs and other characters and nothing.
muscled_beaver
01-14-2009, 06:26 AM
It's a poison skill (like X damages every Y seconds for Z seconds)
stinkyhut
01-14-2009, 06:55 AM
Can you revive in PvP?
And are bishops good in PvP other than healing?
healingphenom
01-14-2009, 08:00 AM
@stinkyhut
Yes priests can revive, and yes they are more than just healers. Honestly, they are more of attackers than healers. The ranged attacks pretty much make them mages, however they can heal themselves, which pisses off everyone else.
Sintei
01-14-2009, 09:51 AM
only because many noob priest like to run away if they are last player standing and try to run out the clock. which sux lol
blood82
01-14-2009, 12:04 PM
i've tried shooting strike of darkness at enemies and nothing. so i don't know if its working correctly or not.
dargongarath
01-16-2009, 02:07 PM
oh btw just so you know non of the AoE skills in CB were working thats probably why you couldn't hit more than one monster :D
at least that s what i heard and experienced, the only class i didn't make in pvp was a priest so i didn't get a chance to try holy stike on a mob XD
protomanv5
02-03-2009, 10:08 AM
what abillitys should i put my points on if i want to become a priest e.g. for a warrior it would be str and spr
Zenco
02-03-2009, 04:34 PM
he said it on the first page, all int is a good idea but will be hard for the first 10 lvs
Bjorli
02-03-2009, 04:46 PM
he said it on the first page, all int is a good idea but will be hard for the first 10 lvs
Really? I read the whole thread now and I dont think he/she mentioned any stat builds at all in this thread. :o
Zenco
02-03-2009, 04:49 PM
i think he said it or someone else did
Bjorli
02-03-2009, 05:02 PM
i think he said it or someone else did
Oh it doesnt matter, I know I have read somewhere too full INT is good, but also I remember somewhere someone had tried it and after 30 they needed to put some on SPR because of the lack of hp. I will go full INT first though and put in SPR as I see needed as I play :p
dyan1
02-08-2009, 04:26 PM
Can someone tell me what can cause a monster to spontaneously jump?
I am sick of them dodging holy strike.
kelvin5099
02-08-2009, 08:28 PM
I have 2 questions.. Can priest pure INT? And priest or mage which 1 is better? @@
johnbunny
02-10-2009, 10:29 AM
Can someone tell me what can cause a monster to spontaneously jump?
I am sick of them dodging holy strike.
It's hard to really give advice on this, but this is what i've been doing lately.
Upon approaching a monster that spawns or you come to, first pause one or two seconds to see how they're acting. If they're normal, cast away as usual. If they hop, time it to where they're about to hit the ground after the second hop or whichever hop you feel comfortable with to ensure the cast hits them lol.
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awholenewworld
02-14-2009, 08:30 AM
There's some question i want to ask;
1 How do i become bishop in Outspark windslayer now? Aren't Akamasu map not out yet?
2 Does Group heal , heal myself as well.
3 What are the essential skills to learn for priest going bishop? Are earth strike and the entangle earth skill essential to max or should i just max the holy strike skill instead.
Man, i got bored after i leveled to 23 since i can't do anymore quest.
healingphenom
02-17-2009, 03:43 PM
@ awholenewworld
#1 - Amasuka maps are out I do believe. So you can become a bishop.
#2 - It did heal yourself in the Old WS version, so I hope they haven't changed that as well. (Stupid fire attacks not hitting other monsters)
#3 - Earth strike is very helpful in combo-ing monsters, so you should stick with leveling up this skill. Thorn Bush is a pretty terrible skill in my opinion, it's not like the other stun skills where they are projectile like attacks/melee attacks. This skill just shoots thorns from the ground at a distance, which sucks because monsters are always moving and you have to be at the same distance everytime. In other words, don't get the skill if you don't like it.
girlygirljune
02-17-2009, 05:52 PM
Hmm ive asked this on my other thread... But what would happen if I changed Builds my current build is 3:1 int:spr and changed it to 4:0 int:spr
dogwings
05-06-2009, 03:28 AM
mind if u list out the entire priest/bishop/darkbishop skill here? cos im currently currently looking for a post that indicates the whole skill so i can get a clear picture of whats the skill's all about?
if it dosent trouble u to do so ;DD
thanks.
Eternal_Doom
05-06-2009, 04:58 AM
mind if u list out the entire priest/bishop/darkbishop skill here? cos im currently currently looking for a post that indicates the whole skill so i can get a clear picture of whats the skill's all about?
if it dosent trouble u to do so ;DD
Disclaimer: I cant remember all the skill's names. And they are not in order >_>
Priest:
Holy Strike
Heal (Heals another player. Can anyone confirm how much MP it takes if it hits multiple people?)
Remote Heal (Same as heal. But goes further and quicker.)
Self Heal (Heals yourself)
Mana Transfer (Transfers some of your MP to another player. Its been quite a help to me on many ocasions ^^)
Remote Mana Transfer (Same as Mana Transfer. But goes quicker and further)
Improved Mana Recovery (Increases natural MP recovery)
Increase Effective Range (Increases attack distance)
Magic Shield (Your MP takes damage. Not your HP)
Earth Strike (Throws a rock at enemies. Useful for combos)
Thornbush (Entangles enemies for a few seconds)
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Bishop:
Group Heal
Defence Buff (Cant remember name)
Breath of Vitality (HP+ Buff)
Breath of Life (Revive)
Holy Lightning (AoE)
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Dark Priest:
Strike of Darkness (DoT)
Vampire Strike (I think thats the right name. Not sure. Drains HP of an enemy and gives it to you.)
Wicked Protection (Name probobly wrong T_T Returns some damage to enemies when attacked)
Frenzy (Mixes up your targets commands. I have seen this work on a group of people)
Mutation (Turns targets into Sysios)
dogwings
05-07-2009, 11:34 PM
thanks alot ^^
Prongs1193
05-08-2009, 06:59 PM
is it worth it to spend soo much money on the heals? seriously they heal like....nothing >.>.... im still using the first heal tho... so im not really very experienced with my priest :S. but seriously... 20 hp...
so i it worth it ?