pvp classes

[raychen]

what classes do you guys think will be good and bad for pvp, one on one and group pvp?

[septembers]

Well,

Paladin, Summoner and Bishop are support classes.


Really all classes are balanced but when your a warrior its kinda hard.

[fangdango]

For one on one, its usually not surprising that a rogue(assassin/trapper) would excel against all the other classes except for themselves.

For group, it depends how well your teammates are cooperating but I would have to say that an excellent archer can control the flow of the entire battle if she/he knows what they're doing by providing support.

Honestly, I would have to agree that warriors certainly can't do well due to skills and movement. They can take some hits but it doesn't matter as warriors don't have much of a HP pool. Monks only have around ~100 less HP than them. (In Standard Mode, of course

Then again, there is no bad class in Player vs. Player.

[icegoten]

For 1 vs 1 I would say a rouge would be the best class.

In a group it depends what class everyone is. Say if you have archers your going to want warriors taking the front line to keep the enemy at bay and your going to want support for your warriors with Mages or something.

[sedgezilla]

Nah way Dark Priests are fairly amazing at one on one pvp. As for group pvp, tis all about co-operation but i think archers do have the biggest(maybe not the biggest, but the most positive)impact.

[raychen]

For 1 vs 1 I would say a rouge would be the best class.

In a group it depends what class everyone is. Say if you have archers your going to want warriors taking the front line to keep the enemy at bay and your going to want support for your warriors with Mages or something.

i think its funny that ppl talk as if theres only one way to get to the other side, but actually there is not really a front line because the group pvp maps are pretty big and sometimes people can get to the otherside and youll find yourself getting attacked from behind in a big brawl

[septembers]

Rogues go well during 3vs3s..

not like 8vs8

[icegoten]

i think its funny that ppl talk as if theres only one way to get to the other side, but actually there is not really a front line because the group pvp maps are pretty big and sometimes people can get to the otherside and youll find yourself getting attacked from behind in a big brawl

Well if your an archer and you stand against a wall or something they can't come from behind you so they have to come from the front. Remember this is a 2D game. Also it would be the warriors job to make sure the enemy doesn't get past THE FRONT LINE!

[raychen]

Well if your an archer and you stand against a wall or something they can't come from behind you so they have to come from the front. Remember this is a 2D game. Also it would be the warriors job to make sure the enemy doesn't get past THE FRONT LINE!

no one stands against a wall on the sides of the map unless the other team has forced their way that far over. i played the gng version, so i know at least that people are actively engaged all over the map and not hiding on the sides, or at least the good players aren't

[icegoten]

no one stands against a wall on the sides of the map unless the other team has forced their way that far over. i played the gng version, so i know at least that people are actively engaged all over the map and not hiding on the sides, or at least the good players aren't

You don't have to run to the middle of the map to be in any fights. Fights happen anywhere on the map and if your team had a plan it could be to let the enemy come to them and once they are there hit them with full force!

[TheInsaneDevil]

Well to be honest with you guys I think all the classes will excel in pvp. Their skills don't have to be the best, or have the highest hp, or even hit the hardest. All it depends on is your equip(Partly) and how you play your class. I think as long as you know how to properly use your character to it's full potential and with the right timing any class can beat another. That doesn't mean some classes won't have a harder time at this, it just mans you have to know how to use your skills and Armour/Weapons to their fullest potential.

When it comes to equip as long as the person does everything they can to get the best equip and the strongest that would give a larger advantage over the other. Say there was a fight between to characters that are the same lvl, one has basic gear that's not the best and the other has the best equip you can get for there lvl. Obviously the one with the better equip has a greater chance to beat the other.

Then when you factor in skills with the equip, if you use all the skills you can in chains of them you could easily over power another player in pvp. Say you have a few weak skills and a few strong skills. If all the strong skills do is hit for damage and the weaker ones hit less but have added effects and you are one who decides to only use the strong skills in a fight...frankly your screwing yourself over and making your life harder then it has to be. I've sen many do this in other games and there only hurting themselves. This is what I'm talking about using chains of skills. Say one of your skills, one of the stronger one, increases your damage by of say 150 damage and you typically hit 100 each hit, that's 250 damage for that one hit but the draw back is he skill has a cool down of 7 seconds. Now say you had a weaker skill that only adds 20 damage but adds poison damage for 15 seconds and every second does 5 damage. Well you would hit 120 damage, much less then the first hit, and the poison would hit for 75 extra damage after the 15 seconds. That totals to 195 damage for that hit overall, almost twice your original damage. That is all just made up figures though, I can give better examples when I have the actual skills XD. This is what I mean by using skills in combo, use those weak skills in between your stronger hits and you can easily take another down.

My point is though that though some classes may get label 'Worse pvping class' if they get decent equip and know how to use their skills effectively they can beat any other class. This all may sound like rambling and non-sense and I'll probably get flammed for this XD But what can you do about it.

[lechery]

I think the worse pvp class is the best pvp class.

[TheInsaneDevil]

I think the worse pvp class is the best pvp class.
Lol...I think you just kinda put my huge post in a simple sentence XD But yes the worse class can be the best class :3

[lechery]

Lol, I guess so. I think your post hits it pretty accurately.

[TheInsaneDevil]

Omg, a person who I think read it all O.O I was thinking my post would look so long and intimidating no one would read it XD I tend to write a lot when I put up a post.

[raychen]

You don't have to run to the middle of the map to be in any fights. Fights happen anywhere on the map and if your team had a plan it could be to let the enemy come to them and once they are there hit them with full force!

if youd ever played this game then youd know that there is pretty much never any planning even in group pvp; though there are teams, its pretty much every man for himself anyway, but hopefully teamwork will be seen in the "new and improved" outspark WS

and TheInsaneDevil, i was pretty intimidated by your long post so i didnt bother reading it haha im pretty lazy

[TheInsaneDevil]

I knew it! I just knew some people wouldn't read it XD But it's fine, I get that a lot so it no longer bothers me. But to be honest it may help point out some good points to those that take the time to read it ^^

[raychen]

to be honest, i made this post just cus there was no posts in pvp section and i'm not really interested in my post, but i see other ppl who have this question a lot and hopefully it will help them

[TheInsaneDevil]

I know what you mean, but once the game gets going and 'good' and 'bad' pvp classes are established this is the kind of thread that will start flamming. But as for when those kind of classes aren't established it's quite a peaceful thread of just what people think would be goo or bad in pvp ^^

[lechery]

Long, intimidating post are erotic to me and I enjoy reading them because if I don't, who will? Definitely not YOURMOTHER!

[Georgie]

Long, intimidating post are erotic to me and I enjoy reading them because if I don't, who will? Definitely not YOURMOTHER!

That was really random. >_<

[lechery]

I'm sorry. I had some sugar yesterday. I'm normal now. Back on task, I THINK MAGE ARE NUMBER ONE PVP AND EVERYTHINGELSE.

[h-kld]

I'm sorry. I had some sugar yesterday. I'm normal now. Back on task, I THINK MAGE ARE NUMBER ONE PVP AND EVERYTHINGELSE.

umm wat about Snipers?

[sedgezilla]

Umm what about Dark Priests?

[Georgie]

Don't mind lechery, lollolol. We can settle this at every class has their advantages and disadvantages in PvP.

[tictoctoe]

Summoner isn't support class.

Summoner is a very good job for pvp becuz u can do a 4x combo.

[raychen]

Summoner isn't support class.

Summoner is a very good job for pvp becuz u can do a 4x combo.

summoner summones fairies to support itself, that doesnt count?

[septembers]

summoner summones fairies to support itself, that doesnt count?


I know he fails to understand that fairies raise element attacks.

and alot of skills are elemental damage.

[lechery]

Summoners, I'm sure, summons stuff that are summonable.

[raychen]

I know he fails to understand that fairies raise element attacks.

and alot of skills are elemental damage.

the fairies arent fighting for their own good are they? are they ai? do they fight to gain their own exp or benefits? no i think summoners will summon fairies so that the fairies can help them to fight and do elemental damage as you said, which would be supporting the summoner in a fight, right?

i fail to understand your point

or were you referring to tictoctoe failing to understand? :P

[juanx14]

the fairies arent fighting for their own good are they? are they ai? do they fight to gain their own exp or benefits? no i think summoners will summon fairies so that the fairies can help them to fight and do elemental damage as you said, which would be supporting the summoner in a fight, right?

i fail to understand your point

or were you referring to tictoctoe failing to understand? :P

no they dont.
when the summoners use any of em summoning skills it appears one *fairy*(they actually look like planets/constellations/meteors)behind em.
you can summon 4 fairies max to power up the mage skills (not sure if all the same element) and to use em like a attack you use the command skill to make fairies attack and the fairies will act like a normal skill

got it ?

[raychen]

no they dont.
when the summoners use any of em summoning skills it appears one *fairy*(they actually look like planets/constellations/meteors)behind em.
you can summon 4 fairies max to power up the mage skills (not sure if all the same element) and to use em like a attack you use the command skill to make fairies attack and the fairies will act like a normal skill

got it ?

so.. they support the summoner in fighting?

isnt that what i said?

[joradn102794]

raychen: ye,so the fairie basicly increase the summoner's elemental attacks

it would be fun seeing a beast master VS a summonoer :D
wolves and wild birds hitting fairies~