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blake-1092
01-05-2009, 12:50 PM
what would u be fighter or counter?

BloodLimit
01-05-2009, 01:37 PM
I'm aiming for Fighter, it seems to go by the offensive part while Counter is more defensive.

septembers
01-05-2009, 01:56 PM
Im sorry to say but Counters suck.

Georgie
01-05-2009, 02:35 PM
I'm going Fighter, mostly because of my strength focus now... and @sept, counters aren't that bad...

slam_jam
01-05-2009, 02:38 PM
I'm probably going to be a Counter.

septembers
01-05-2009, 03:30 PM
Eh earlier counter levels yes.

The dragon kick is great though.

matka_pluku
01-05-2009, 05:38 PM
yea im gona aim for a fighter to it does seem like counters r more defensive then offensive

juanx14
01-05-2009, 10:45 PM
fighters are like most of em skills are offensive and their stronger one i've seen its one attack that hits 6 times doing 42 dmg(pvp)the lv 30 one makes 32dmg 3 times(pvp)the lv 33 skill is a weird kick that pushes the enemy to a longer distance (is not that long)lv37skill is a buff that turns off the dumb delay when you got hit by a period of time not sure about their lv 49 one it says +47 wind attack

counters are not that defence defence defence that everyone is thinking about they just have 2 defencive skills lv 30 one and lv 37 the lv 33 skill is a kick with a dragon sticked up that normally makes 180(pvp)
the lv 41 skill its a kick like sticked up with a warrior wind strike makes 141 normally(pvp)and no it doesnt counter the arrows/magic bolts/shurikens/wind kicks but it goes through the skill *possibly you get to hit the enemy but not counter it*the lv 49 one i wish i get to watch it someday... but that frigging thing deals with a +149 water attack!then get ready for a fire kick or a dragon kick

i wish i helped :]

saphiro1
01-06-2009, 02:39 PM
fighters are like most of em skills are offensive and their stronger one i've seen its one attack that hits 6 times doing 42 dmg(pvp)the lv 30 one makes 32dmg 3 times(pvp)the lv 33 skill is a weird kick that pushes the enemy to a longer distance (is not that long)lv37skill is a buff that turns off the dumb delay when you got hit by a period of time not sure about their lv 49 one it says +47 wind attack

counters are not that defence defence defence that everyone is thinking about they just have 2 defencive skills lv 30 one and lv 37 the lv 33 skill is a kick with a dragon sticked up that normally makes 180(pvp)
the lv 41 skill its a kick like sticked up with a warrior wind strike makes 141 normally(pvp)and no it doesnt counter the arrows/magic bolts/shurikens/wind kicks but it goes through the skill *possibly you get to hit the enemy but not counter it*the lv 49 one i wish i get to watch it someday... but that frigging thing deals with a +149 water attack!then get ready for a fire kick or a dragon kick

i wish i helped :]

HOLA JUANITO! :D

You forgot to say something about lvl 49 skill of counters, target gets damaged 5 seconds after being hitted aaaaaand it FREEZES the target!!. So you can combo it with dragon kick, fire kick or others :)

Georgie
01-06-2009, 03:54 PM
HOLA JUANITO! :D

You forgot to say something about lvl 49 skill of counters, target gets damaged 5 seconds after being hitted aaaaaand it FREEZES the target!!. So you can combo it with dragon kick, fire kick or others :)

How do elemental bonuses stack well with these skills? With all of these elemental attack bonuses, I'm sure they'd help a little. Did you test that out?

escorian
01-07-2009, 05:12 AM
well plain and simple everyone has their preferences and everyone is entitled to their opinion and i just wanan say im going counter because im sick of games that get me killed cause i have no defense -.-;

zero579911
01-07-2009, 05:20 PM
juanx14 HEY! i seen u played on gamengame windslayer be4. And ur name was JuanMonk, same as ur signature thing. U may don't remember me but my name is zero57 on gamengame windslayer :D

juanx14
01-11-2009, 06:10 PM
HOLA JUANITO! :D

You forgot to say something about lvl 49 skill of counters, target gets damaged 5 seconds after being hitted aaaaaand it FREEZES the target!!. So you can combo it with dragon kick, fire kick or others :)

5 secs its the freezing time newb ~.~

How do elemental bonuses stack well with these skills? With all of these elemental attack bonuses, I'm sure they'd help a little. Did you test that out?

heres the thing ~
you are a mage rite? and you use that cheap ice to freeze the target enough time to cast a fire skill rite?

well that skill of counters do the same but doing like +500 dmg ;D then fire kick or dragon kick depending the situation (fire kick in teh land dragon kick in da air <_<)

juanx14 HEY! i seen u played on gamengame windslayer be4. And ur name was JuanMonk, same as ur signature thing. U may don't remember me but my name is zero57 on gamengame windslayer :D

I do remember you!
i can say you were a rouge lv 13-20something. am i right :P?

zero579911
01-12-2009, 03:48 PM
5 secs its the freezing time newb ~.~
I do remember you!
i can say you were a rouge lv 13-20something. am i right :P?

Umm u got the lvl right.... (lvl 14) but i was a monk o.O

juanx14
01-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Im sorry to say but Counters suck.

im soooo kicking your butt for dat ~when i get to counter <_<

Umm u got the lvl right.... (lvl 14) but i was a monk o.O

no way D: im sure you were a rouge it was XZero27X or something like that :<

infidelimmoral
01-14-2009, 05:15 AM
IM going Fighter definately:D:D:D

dargongarath
01-16-2009, 01:41 PM
counters (in my opinion) are only okay at 33, but if a fighter and a coutner of equal level fought that were under levle 49, i think the fighter would win hands down...
the counters fighting style is very chunky with cool downs after each skill but the fighter is just go go go wit no cool down inbetween his multi strike attacks :D

septembers
01-16-2009, 02:51 PM
Counters if you know how to use them are alot better then fighters..

There 49 skill HOLY ...... OWNED

ral13
01-16-2009, 03:13 PM
I have a question about the counter skill, is it a very quick skill that you could use at any moment like someone pressing A to block a weak attack at the last second, or is it slow like a strong attack like every other skill in this game seems to be?

Edit: I was having thoughts of becoming a counter if their counter skill isn't slow like a strong attack like fire kick etc.

adjshake
01-18-2009, 09:44 AM
as i love both classes im going to make one of each my first will be a fighter and when i reach level 49 with him i shall make a counter then i will compare the two types and decide what they are best in personally i think fighters are better at killing monsters where as counters are better in PVP allthow they both are good in PVP and outside i bealive fighter is 60% wild monster killing and 40% PVP where as counter is 60% PVP and 40% wild monster killing

hope i helped

juanx14
01-20-2009, 01:02 PM
it makes a random yellow egg/shield around you and if a melee class hits you they will take the dmg back(it doest poison if a rouge tries to poison you <_< and the dmg goes 100sumthing w/o concentration enchance and 142 with concetration enchance BUT is not that easy to make somebody touch it. you have to learn to use it ~

there were like 4 active counters on the gng ver and i was the only one that knew to use it well x_x

betatronkid
02-03-2009, 03:48 PM
The best Monk on the game was a Fighter by the name FangoDango, the best Counter was a player by the name Eduardo. Depends on skill and what type of player you are.

Juan is lying, the person who knew how to use it best was Eduardo.

I was a great Monk at one point, then I got proud and lost my skill...mainly cause I was getting lazy.

countered
02-03-2009, 04:07 PM
I've always played counter-based characters in fighting games or mmos. I was always a big fan of Aoi/Wolf/Akira for their counters in Vf5, and I'm hoping the rewards pay off for the counter monk in this game too.

azngothacked
03-20-2009, 12:07 PM
Blarg... I still can't decide what I want to be. Btw, would it be bad for a counter to go full str? So the lvl 30 counter skill makes a shield thingy surround you? Sounds cool^^ On how to use the lvl 30 move, if a warrior was about to use a strong attack could you just immediately use the meele counter move and block it? Or does the counter move take some time to pop up?

justindz
04-01-2009, 09:36 PM
You could do that. It's hard to time and for some reason it only works from the front (even though the shield surrounds you everywhere). The only advantage I can see over just dodging attacks and hitting with flame or dragon kick is that it aggravates people more and maybe takes less mp. People keep making fun of me for using it, but I'm trying to get the hang of the thing.

Main problem right now is there are barely any melees to use it against. Mostly mage/priest/archer and so even if you get to fight someone with this, you generally put up the shield and get nuked by 17 spells at once, rendering it a waste of time.

Someone should start a thread for tactics to deal with a moving wall of four casters/archers or a spam pit if you're a counter. You can't dragon kick down and everything else requires you to get close. Same goes for Shaolin, except for the invincibility advantage. Do you just find something else to do and let the rest of your team jump in and die?