View Full Version : A question to mullover...
catry
01-10-2009, 06:21 PM
Here's something for everyone to think about!
Suppose we have two people (A) and (B). Person A says something they think is friendly or at least borderline civil. However, Person B for whatever reason is insulted by that saying (classic misunderstanding!). An argument ensues in which person B just wants to be left alone, but neither side wishes to back down.
The question is:
Who do you think is "at fault" in this?
Is either side more "justified" than the other to be upset?
How would you handle it/think it should be handled?
Would you ask for help in either situation, be it a friend or a GM/CSR?
And most importantly:
How do you think these situations could be avoided?
tomcat47
01-10-2009, 06:42 PM
I would think Person B needs to understand that Person A didn't have any bad intentions by saying that something, and both should agree to stop arguing.
And uhm...could you give an example of said situation? Please? Not sure I fully understand. Sorry ._.
poochyenarulez
01-10-2009, 06:44 PM
I would think Person B needs to understand that Person A didn't have any bad intentions by saying that something, and both should agree to stop arguing.
And uhm...could you give an example of said situation? Please? Not sure I fully understand. Sorry ._.
yea, i would like an example too, not to sure if i understand
catry
01-10-2009, 06:52 PM
mmm okey example. I'll use PvP since that seems to be a breeding ground for these >.>
Person A goes up to someone and attacks and "play smacktalks" thinking it's someone else, and person B gets upset and they end up fighting and then verbally arguing. Neither side wants to admit fault since person A thinks "It's PvP, it happens" and person B just wants to be left alone but doesn't want to admit to being wrong.
Ok, not the best example x.X I'll come up with a better one when I'm done eating...
tomcat47
01-10-2009, 07:08 PM
lol. ill probably reply again if you come up with another example, but for now ill use that one.
Sooo...in my opinion...in this situation, it IS pvp. So person B can't be too mad, all they did was die in pvp. Get over it, and move on. Person A should apologize though, telling them they thought it was someone else. And uh, if person B wanted to be left alone, they would just ignore person A, and stop arguing. They cant want to be left alone that much, if they continue to argue.
And to avoid these situations...it just takes some common sense. If people didnt care about being right all the time, they wouldnt even occur. It's not going to kill you to admit you're wrong. You don't de-lvl to lvl 1, you dont lose all your friends...I honestly dont see whats wrong with saying, "ok, you're right, bye" or maybe you're the right one, but you're trying to argue with an extremely stubborn person. It's not hard to say "whatever; bye" problem solved. x_X
taintedl0ve
01-10-2009, 07:17 PM
Yes, this is PVP. If ersoon B would like to be left alone... erm... why are they in PVP?
Now, seeing as person A made a mistake, they are in the position that they need to be responsible and admit that they made this mistake. No one is more in the wrong here. But if someone doesn't want to be bothered, HELLO, don't go to PVP. And don't mess around with someone unless you're sure its someone you know, and they are going to understand that you are just kidding, and not at all serious.
phew :)
Axxen
01-10-2009, 08:27 PM
Hmm...quite the quandry you have..or is it? Now then, I think a good resolution to this is for Person A to simply apologize and explain the misunderstanding, then Person B should apologize for over-reacting. Then, if Person B still wishes to be left alone, then so be it, Person A should respect Person B's wishes. Now then, in my personal opinion, I think they both might be happier if they sat down, discussed what went wrong, and then ate a piece of glorious pie (cus u cant go wrong with pie...seriously ive tried it). Furthur more, I think many arguments could be solved so much easier, with a little patience, understanding..and pie......seriously...get me my pie.
MetallicaX
01-12-2009, 09:07 PM
Well, I'll take into consideration the Question mentioned Person A SAYING something, not doing something.
And all i have to say is,
Freedom of speech...
l3kart
01-13-2009, 12:16 PM
If B gets upset , Person A should apologize and say that he had no bad intentions,If person B wont undersstand,just leave him calm down.U will be friends again in like 5 mins.Otherwise...KILL him.;)
Grapefruithead
01-13-2009, 01:14 PM
I'd just have to say it's both their faults, for Person B blowing it all out of proportion, and Person A for saying it in the first place.
masterroku
01-13-2009, 03:05 PM
Simple...no one is at fault. You didnt say that A was INTENTIONALLY trying to hurt someone, so it's no ones fault. Just another case of misunderstanding that's all. And for this to be resolved, it is both A's and B's responsibility to let each other know how they feel about what they said to each other and clarify the situation in a civil like manner.
justin_2006
01-14-2009, 12:04 PM
well imo this situation can have SOOOO many outcomes and possibilities as to the cause of misunderstanding, the severity, and how it should possibly be handled...
but ill speak generally ;]
IN GENERAL (><) if pB gets upset as to what pA has said(or done) and IF pA was not intentionally acting to upset pB then i think pA should apologize and let pB kno that it was in no way intentional and probably say srry again lol, if pB consists and begins to argue or call pA names then pA needs to be the adult in this senario and say once again that he/she is srry for the misunderstanding and leave or ignore pB all together.... of course i could have a diff. opinion in diff. situations, it highly depends on what pA says and the circumstances for saying whatever he/she says....
basically i think theyre both at fault though, even if something is said unintentionally but has the slightest malice i think it shouldnt be said, especially over the internet where its only txt, no emotion, face/body gestures to help show that it was just a joke... and the person who gets overly upset and begins to bash the other person for saying whatever he/she says is at fault as well. if someone says something negative to u and causes u to get upset, u should report it if its severe or just ignore the person all together...