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shin_kazunari
01-12-2009, 05:40 AM
This is Shin_Kazunari again and i started to think upon this and i noticed that theres not alot of free mmorpgs with these 3 class's Samurai, ninja and Monk not only that but in alot of other rpg games that r anime based they have at least one of the 2-3 in there games such as Final fantasy with Aron, Saiban, sephoirth,Shadow, Tiffa, yufie and Zell and i think along with the other class's u already have with these 2 new ones Sos will be the number 1 MMORPG that everyone would like 2 play my thoughts upon these class's for incase u don't know how to set it up to put these class's in the game for like the class upgradeing system such as squire 2 knight would go something like this now i have not gone up to the warlord class yet so im not sure what level u need to be on for that because as of right now i play a level 41 squire and its my first character.

Ronin-Requirements level 16 Xen
Samurai-Requirements level 66 Ronin
Master Samurai-Requirements level 98 Samurai
Shogun-Requirements level ??? Master Samurai


Ninja-Requirements level 16 Xen
Expert Ninja-Requirements level 66 ninja
Ninja Master-Requirements level 98 Expert Ninja
Shinobi-Requirements level ??? Ninja Master

Brawler-Requirements level 16 xen
Monk-Requirements level 66 Brawler
Martial Artist-Requirements level 98 monk
Shaolin Preist-Requirements level ??? Martial Artist

as of skills i will be more than happy to list those as well at another time if this sounds good to you now i do know that u have samurai like skins that you can purchase at the sparkcash page but i think it would be better for players to be able to select these class's than get a short peroid of time in the samurai armour skin im not sure if u have already thought of this and either didn't want to realse it yet or just not enough information and it does mean that a whole new list of equipment as well because of the differnces in class's but really this is just a suggestion and if it hapeens than great if not then oh well lol
Thanks For your time
Shin_Kazunari

tazsbigtoy
01-12-2009, 07:25 AM
Well, this game is pretty straight forward and simple. There aren't a lot of complicated combinations for fighting and what not. We have 3 basic melee combat classes, the squire/knight/warrior, the neo/rogue/assassin, and the disciple/templar. You are suggesting adding 3 more.

The samurai uses armor and yields a sword like a knight, the ninja relies on stealth and deception like the rogue, and the monk is a sort of healer based fighter like the disciple/templar.

I'm not sure that this game could distinguish between these classes and the existing ones enough to be more than different looking renamed versions of the existing classes.

shin_kazunari
01-12-2009, 08:04 AM
well i see your point and even i have to say like yes these are very Simalar class's such as the knight and samurai and so fourth but the differences are a samurai is more of a quicker pace fighter where the knight is more brute streangth but a knight and samurai have both use a spear weapnary as well if u look at such games like samurai warriors for the samurai and Blazing storm for the knight like yes i know it makes things a lil more complacated as u have said and i do agree it would make things alil more harder to distinguish between the other class's but lets just look at it this way in final fantasy taactics the knight had armour breaking skills where the samurai used spirits of the sword for his skills basicly if there was a way to maybe make a samurai weaker by maybe say 3 points but make him quicker for instence maybe thats how it might be able to work or like give the samurai more mp than the knight but have the knight with more hp than the samurai or maybe have the samurai as a branch from the squire class like how they do it for disciple and cleric

shin_kazunari
01-12-2009, 08:46 AM
basicly what it is that im saying is u can make the samurai a class between a knight and a rouge the other 2 i must admit there 2 hard to distinguish between the other class's so yeah i can kinda see that maybe its not such a good idea but im going to do alil research on this to see if there is a way it can work out when i find out i will make another replay explaning on how it could work like really because knights and samurai's r my 2 favorite class's in rpg games i can come up with many ways to how they could co-exisit in this game much easier than the other 2

Trashknight
01-12-2009, 10:24 AM
For that research I suggest you look at what roles they could play; the ones available have defined ones along with weapon/skill/stat growth and distribution within standalone/party situations.

( I would pity Auron in this game; slow, inaccurate and can't dodge. Pure party material until lv 66 IMO. XD Sorry, SCC-challenge experience with him haunting me.)

Take heed the prestige classes are inversed from their roots. (Like more mp than hp for the Samurai, but what's the benefit of a big manapool? More costy like the Disciple as a reason? Or a wide range of party buffs?)

shin_kazunari
01-12-2009, 05:17 PM
well i have done alil bit of research and i have noticed a varity of things such as for starters Knight class's usaualy do have more hp than the samurai not only that but Samurai class's have more agility now i was looking for equal leveled characters between the knight and samurai but usally in rpg games the samurai character is a secondary character to the games story so its impossiable to relate the 2 as equal stats so squires in Sos have a pow + 1 accessory why not give the samurai a attack speed accessory of + 1 becasue they r quicker than the knight class just not as strong in damage basicly the way i see it working would be k take the knight and rouge class's and simply make there def the in between of the 2 like here's an example say the knights armour is +27 and the Rouge is +23 then simply make the Samurai +25 make as of the mp pool i don't think that a samurai would be a party buffer usally in the rpg's samurai are just another heavy hiter to basicly like the knight to take damage for the team and like the buffs for a samurai would be more from what my research has provided is accracy and streangth or counter like moves all they relly are is a slightly weaker tank that just moves faster than the knight like for instance this data is from a game called Ar tonelico Lyner is the knight and Ayatame is the samurai.

Lyner(Knight)
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Level 79
Hit Points: 7055
Attack: 2127
Defense: 2457
Agility: 732


Ayatane (Samurai)
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Level 76
Hit Points: 6369
Attack: 2093
Defense: 1679
Agility: 600

As u can see here with just a 3 level differance they r rather close but the samurai is just slightly weaker so its simple just make the samurai slightly weaker than the knight like the whole benefit of the samurai is basicly the same as a knight but he would just be faster and have differnet skills like thats really it.

tazsbigtoy
01-14-2009, 04:52 PM
Hmmm, I don't see that there would really be an advantage to playing the character then. He can't take or do the damage of the knight. He wouldn't be as fast or dodge as well as the rogue. He would be harder to level assuming you were using him as a tank. Not sure he would fit into the structure of the game. Now maybe if he could say either a sword or a bow and could switch between a tanker and a weaker scout character......

shin_kazunari
01-15-2009, 07:41 PM
yeah like samurai's used bow and arrows too like ok all the weapons that a samurai has ever used is sword,spear,pike and bow and arrow like we could just duplicate the knight class just change the skills around like where the knight uses fire swing make the samurai use ice or even lightning like because this is a fantasy game the sky's the limit like truthfully i would be happy even if like the knight was given katana like swords but like a verity of them so like say katana ,then like long katana uumm broad katana like relly the class is what im aming for but even if i could go to like the armoury and buy a varity of katana's that would be awsome caz like really think about it a knight with a broad katana that would be sooooooo cool to do but like i said i am more in it for the job class