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DF001
01-14-2009, 02:28 PM
The abyss

What is abyss?

Abyss is a dungeon where you can get good drops like stone materials and green armors while getting more exp than the usual. However, to balance the abyss, it is a PvP map, so you can fight for mobs, rooms and exp, and fight another players.

Where is that so called, abyss?

To get in the abyss, you need to go Elderine (10-66) or Uruga (10-89), since I'll only talk about the 10-36 abyss, I will just identify that ones location. Okay first, after getting in Elderine, talk to the Guard under Item Merchant Nina's shop.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide1.jpg

After that, talk to the first guard of the right.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide2.jpg

Before entering abyss, you will see that window to confirm if you want to get in or not, and IF you press yes, you agree that you can PK and that you CAN be PK'd. You also agree that you won't create a thread on the forums complaining about getting killed. >.<

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide8.jpg

*Presses Yes*

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide10.jpg

Okay so now, you are in abyss right? I wouldn't recommending going here before you are level 20, because of the threats in the abyss that should be feared

Phino of abyss

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide4.jpg

Phinos don't hit much, they will do 1's on pure END fighters with a +9 shield and when they are demoralized. They are the mobs that give the most exp in abyss though. They mostly drop scroll and stone mats.

Phinoflies of abyss

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide5.jpg

They, like the phinos, do low damage, but even lower. I tested and they do damage, not magic damage, even though they are the only ranged monsters in this abyss. They also have lower def and hp, so to balance, they give lower exp. They drop mostly potion mats and learning scrolls including the rare t2 scrolls.

Best room

The room with the best experience and most mobs is the one around F8. (check the image under)

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide13.jpg

Here you can also see the abyss rooms, (lightest = less exp, darkest = more exp)

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide9.jpg

From lightest to darkest:

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide7.jpg

Risks of being in abyss:

- You lose EXP when you get killed by a player
- You lose EXP when you get killed by mob, like on the other maps
- You lose scrolls when you die if you had any
- You will be warped to the Red Zone when you die

Where do I exactly get warped?

You get warped near the battle field guard when you die like on the picture.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide11.jpg

Is there anything that prevents me from getting killed over and over?

Yes, there is the idle state. Whenever you die and you move, there is a ''buff'' that prevents you from attacking and get attacked, it only lasts for 10 seconds, and it starts counting when you press move and are warped to the spawn point.

The idle state looks like this:

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide12.jpg

Now I will review the advantages and disadvantages of being in the abyss:

Advantages:

- Awesome EXP, you level alot faster than grinding with normal mobs
- Awesome drops, ever since the 10/28 patch, every abysses except the 10-36 abyss have drop rate cut in half, and you can get things like, the rare T2 Production Scrolls
- You can get Kill Points by killing other players and maybe get in the leaderboards

Disadvantages

- You can get killed, and if you get spawn killed, the grinding that took you ages will be wasted


Now..in abyss, you are either a PKer/PvPer or a PvEr.

PK:

Advantages:

- You can get Kill Points, etc, and maybe get in the leaderboards..
- You can make friends with another PKers, and compare your strenghts with them
- Most PKers are strong, else they would just dump that live for PvE
- You will be able to know how to fight back in guild wars and in FBZs, and maybe even in abyss
- Some PKers have ''alliances'', it's the, ''I won't kill you if you don't kill me''

Disadvantages..

- You can get a bad reputation for killing players in abyss, because some consider it harassment
- Someone can be in a big guild and get them all to hate you and kill you whenever they see or even maybe war you
- You will get cussed at alot. I myself got 100 report screenshots on a day of PKing, before the KPs, leaderboards and exp loss after dying by a player.
- You will never level
- A Pker will always die, at least once, so you will lose exp. When I was level 36 at 99%, on my last PKing day, I lost 39% and took 1+ hour to get it back >.<
- You are wasting money. I wasted like 500s on PKing because of the stones and I regret it. I also wasted almost 500 T1 HP pots. A PvEr would only make profit because, yes they are wasting stones, but they make it up with the mats they get from the mobs.
- You will have no time to join KQs and you will never get your quests done

PvE

Advantages:

- You will get awesome exp and level fast
- You will get drops and gradually become richer than before
- You will keep your reputation
- You will get yourself guild buffs and guild rewards everytime you level if you are in an academy
- You can make friends in abyss by grinding with them and partying them, I made most of my friends while grinding

Disadvantages:

- You won't be as much experienced in guild wars, FBZs, and it may be hard for you to know how to fight back
- If you only grind in abyss, you won't be able to complete your quests and join the Kingdom quests
- You will have no alliances with the PKers unless you know them and they are your friends/guildies, etc

Well, I did have fun PKing, but being stuck at the same level and watching your friends getting to really high levels saddens me :/

I was 36 a month and a week ago, now I am the reverse.

Bad thing is that, sometimes I still get hate whispers, but I also get congratulation whispers..


Okay so, earlier I mentioned the red zone, and by red zone I meant this.

From red to yellow, most dangerous area to less dangerous area.

http://i331.photobucket.com/albums/l446/okie_013/abyssguide6.jpg

The red zone is where the most PKing occurs, because some people farm kill points at the entrance...
The orange zone still has a bit of PKing, because it is near the red zone.
The yellow zone doesn't have as much as PKers as the other zone, maybe because it is a bit further.

How many EXP do I lost when I die?

Well, I thought of writting down how many exp you lose each level, so far I got only level 33 xD, hope any of you can tell me how many exp do you lose and at which level, also how many % is that exp.

Update: You don't lose exp under level 20.

Level 20
Level 21 - 340 EXP - 2,98% average
Level 22
Level 23
Level 24
Level 25
Level 26
Level 27 - 600 EXP - 1,90% average
Level 28 - 670 EXP - 1,72% average
Level 29
Level 30
Level 31
Level 32
Level 33 - 1030 EXP - 1,27% average
Level 34
Level 35
Level 36


Recommended items before going in abyss:

PvE:

Items you really need:

- T1 Aim scroll : Fighters, mages and clerics miss alot, especially axe fighters. Axe fighters would need t2 aim so they don't miss T.T

Not so needed but it doesn't hurt bringing:

- T1 Vit scroll
- T1 Def scrol
- T1 Eva scroll if you are an archer, then the PKers will miss more often
- T1 Speed scroll if you are an archer or a mage, so you can kite the PKers, until they eventually leave you alone
- An endure buff always helps.

PK:

Items you really need:

- T1 Vit, T1 Def scrolls and MAYBE T1 Eva scrolls for survival
- T1 Speed to get people that kite/run, etc

Not so needed but it doesn't hurt bringing:

- A buff
- T1 Aim scroll

What is not allowed in abyss?

Well, besides spamming gold sites (even though I never saw a bot there), KSing and Swearing in abyss is NOT allowed. There is no such thing as harassment in abyss, unless they are annoying you on normal chat, whisper, etc. So, even if you get killed 100 times, on shop or shroom and while a mob is attacking you, you can not report who PK'd you.

What can I do to stop getting spawn killed?

You can either:

- Ask the PKer nicely to let you go
- If he won't let you go, then you should leave abyss and contact a PKKer.

NOTE:If you swear or harass who killed you, you not only can get banned for swearing, but you will also make the PKers want to kill you more and more, and the PKKers won't help you on that case.

Where can I find a PKKer?

Well, borednl had the brilliant idea of creating a thread to gather people that can help players that get killed over and over.

Apoline: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=129581
Bijou:http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137016
Epith: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135227
Teva: http://www.outspark.com/forums/showthread.php?t=134874

And ummm...ignore my comments on the threads >.>

Special thanks to:

Zerone - for telling me how many exp he loses when he dies and how many exp is 100%
Lyrae - ''
HeavensStorm - ''
Shadowic2 - for telling me where I should post the guide4

Also thanks to whoever posted and gave suggestions, etc.

Shaden
01-14-2009, 02:46 PM
- A Pker will always die, at least once, so you will lose exp. When I was level 36 at 99%, on my last PKing day, I lost 39% and took 1+ hour to get it back >.<

Meh, Slave maybe died less than 5 times in actual PK'ing fests over several months of PvP.

- You are wasting money. I wasted like 500s on PKing because of the stones and I regret it. I also wasted almost 500 T1 HP pots. A PvEr would only make profit because, yes they are wasting stones, but they make it up with the mats they get from the mobs.

Slave got t2 scroll drops whenever he went and PK'd everyone in the back room; made over 10g selling those things. So, I did make a profit. Although I spent a lot on new gear. xD

Although on Apo, they dropped in prices - used to be 2g+ easy.

- You will never level

Sorta the idea of PK'ing in there; I'm sure some people don't mind. Make a main for levels. :p

Items Needed of rPK'ing
You really only *need* a speed scroll; even that is optional since you can cleverly guide yourself into kiters most of the time.

The bottom right room, past the big one, has several mobs which also give max xp - but no big deal.

Anywho, good guide for newbies trying to find/learn about the Abyss system. :p



You also agree that you won't create a thread on the forums complaining about getting killed. >.<

I wish!

UzumakiW
01-14-2009, 02:51 PM
Nice guide, Zap, though, I've always just advised to stay out of the 20 abyss XD.

DF001
01-14-2009, 03:05 PM
I'll be adding some other things later..

Shaden, I meant more like, recommended items

FatalLace
01-14-2009, 04:55 PM
nicely done care! here i was expecting to see in big red letters:

RUN LIKE HELL!!!!

Applepod
01-14-2009, 10:52 PM
This guide is very helpful and informative. Thank you very much.

DF001
01-15-2009, 01:36 AM
Meh, Slave maybe died less than 5 times in actual PK'ing fests over several months of PvP.


>.> Shaden, that is because your gears were godly.

Nice guide, Zap, though, I've always just advised to stay out of the 20 abyss XD.

Thanks, Ako

nicely done care! here i was expecting to see in big red letters:

RUN LIKE HELL!!!!

lol I was thinking on that

This guide is very helpful and informative. Thank you very much.

Thanks and you're welcome.

I'll be adding the ''rules of abyss'' and maybe links to the PKK threads.

^ Added/updated

Zrnec
01-15-2009, 02:59 AM
Lol usually there is always fight for the biggest room. Example: You grind with pt, someone comes and kills you. You come back kill him. Its about the suprise attack.

mooooouse
01-15-2009, 04:12 AM
Protip: Go to 20 abyss at irregular times and it's empty OR Get full T2 scrolls and cookie charms on a mage and eat everyone ;o

DF001
01-15-2009, 05:37 AM
Lol usually there is always fight for the biggest room. Example: You grind with pt, someone comes and kills you. You come back kill him. Its about the suprise attack.

Yup, they fight for exp and drops.

Protip: Go to 20 abyss at irregular times and it's empty OR Get full T2 scrolls and cookie charms on a mage and eat everyone ;o

What if you aren't a mage? And what do you mean by irregular times?

YoshimaruOrona
01-15-2009, 06:09 AM
Awesome guide for those unfamiliar with abyss and its mysterious ways. Also very insightful from both sides of the abyss: PvP versus PvE.

I think I can help a bit with moooouse's post. By irregular times, (s)he was referring to going in abyss while most students are in school or when most players in the United States would be sleeping. For example, I live on the East Coast in the U.S., and usually, after about 3am my time (midnight/00:00 Pacific Standard Time), 20 abyss is empty, or at the very least, empty of PvPers.

I'd +rep if the system were still in place, but then again, you had loads of rep, didnt you? xD



EDIT: You might wanna also toss in a little note about how cussing at PKers after they kill you only makes them want to kill you more, and even helps them to remember your name for the next time they see you in a PvP area.

DF001
01-15-2009, 11:42 AM
Awesome guide for those unfamiliar with abyss and its mysterious ways. Also very insightful from both sides of the abyss: PvP versus PvE.

I think I can help a bit with moooouse's post. By irregular times, (s)he was referring to going in abyss while most students are in school or when most players in the United States would be sleeping. For example, I live on the East Coast in the U.S., and usually, after about 3am my time (midnight/00:00 Pacific Standard Time), 20 abyss is empty, or at the very least, empty of PvPers.

I'd +rep if the system were still in place, but then again, you had loads of rep, didnt you? xD



EDIT: You might wanna also toss in a little note about how cussing at PKers after they kill you only makes them want to kill you more, and even helps them to remember your name for the next time they see you in a PvP area.

1) However, it's hard to determinate those irregular times, because there can be many PKers that have different timezones

And okay, thanks, I'll add that, and I can confirm that for you. ;)

.yuuka.
01-16-2009, 06:52 PM
Nice guide! ^^


How many EXP do I lost when I die?

Well, I thought of writting down how many exp you lose each level, so far I got only level 33 xD, hope any of you can tell me how many exp do you lose and at which level, also how many % is that exp.

Level 10
Level 11
Level 12
Level 13
Level 14
Level 15
Level 16
Level 17
Level 18
Level 19
Level 20
Level 21 - 340 EXP - 2,98% average
Level 22
Level 23
Level 24
Level 25
Level 26
Level 27 - 600 EXP - 1,90% average
Level 28
Level 29
Level 30
Level 31
Level 32
Level 33 - 1030 EXP - 1,27% average
Level 34
Level 35
Level 36



I didn't lose exp at level 18. o.o
Lost 670 exp at level 28.
Idk that's how many % tho x_x

Oh and we can't warp to KQ/scroll if we are inside the abyss, right?

DF001
01-17-2009, 03:06 AM
Nice guide! ^^



I didn't lose exp at level 18. o.o
Lost 670 exp at level 28.
Idk that's how many % tho x_x

Oh and we can't warp to KQ/scroll if we are inside the abyss, right?


Okay thanks, added.

And yea you can't.

DF001
01-18-2009, 10:28 AM
Bump bump.

I will get my mage to level 10 and check how many exp you lose at each level.

animeswimmerfan
01-18-2009, 04:50 PM
just pointing that ksing reporting would be pointless because they could just kill you then take the mob XD

and lol under 20 don't lose exp i believe ( from pks)
and i know there is less mob but the far bottom room was better for exp then the big one just there's like 10 phinos XD

mysweetescape
01-19-2009, 08:34 PM
Lol. xD

Very informed o.o Great for new people who don't understand the killing in 2x Abyss.

:x Is it just me, or did you say that swearing is aloud in the Abyss? @_@ Because that's against the ToS... I screenshot everyone who swears at someone for killing them. :x

DF001
01-20-2009, 01:12 AM
Lol. xD

Very informed o.o Great for new people who don't understand the killing in 2x Abyss.

:x Is it just me, or did you say that swearing is aloud in the Abyss? @_@ Because that's against the ToS... I screenshot everyone who swears at someone for killing them. :x

>.< Omg thanks, I am going to correct it now

DF001
01-21-2009, 01:41 AM
Damn, I leveled too much on my mage..level 13 now T.T

DF001
01-22-2009, 05:43 AM
Nice guide! ^^



I didn't lose exp at level 18. o.o
Lost 670 exp at level 28.
Idk that's how many % tho x_x

Oh and we can't warp to KQ/scroll if we are inside the abyss, right?


I checked and you don't lose exp under 15 too..so..maybe you only lose exp at 20+?

borednl
01-22-2009, 11:50 PM
The abyss

What is abyss?

Abyss is a dungeon where you can get good drops like stone materials and green armors while getting more exp than the usual. However, to balance the abyss, it is a PvP map, so you can fight for mobs, rooms and exp, and fight another players.

Where is that so called, abyss?



etc..etc..etc...

Wow, I'm really surprised by this guide here. Well done.

I did notice that you did a good job stating the PK case and you did so in a balanced way I think, however, I would like to see a part about how PKK'ers will join abyss simply to kill PK'ers too though. ;) (although I'm sure this isn't very common in 2x abyss, it is in the other abysses)

DF001
01-25-2009, 02:59 PM
Eh, should I post the PKK protocol?

lastlightofdawn
01-30-2009, 08:07 PM
Lol. Good guide for those people who don't know about the 2x Abyss. >.<

Just pointing out: Actually, Spawn Killing counts as a form of harassment. The Spawn Killer can get banned if the victim has the name, server, and a few screenshots as proof.

._. I got bored and e-mailed Outspark to see if it actually was harassment or not.

DF001
01-31-2009, 03:38 AM
Lol. Good guide for those people who don't know about the 2x Abyss. >.<

Just pointing out: Actually, Spawn Killing counts as a form of harassment. The Spawn Killer can get banned if the victim has the name, server, and a few screenshots as proof.

._. I got bored and e-mailed Outspark to see if it actually was harassment or not.

Uhh, not really.

They will tell you that if you don't want to get killed, then you should stay out of abyss.

lastlightofdawn
01-31-2009, 10:47 AM
Uhh, not really.

They will tell you that if you don't want to get killed, then you should stay out of abyss.

I don't really care about being killed. As a PKer myself, I love PvP in Abyss. I really hate Spawn Killing though. >.> Any Spawn Killer that I see might not get banned, but will get reported. :x That's how much I hate it.

[Spawn Killing is definitely a form of harassment. You can submit your reports directly to us, but please make sure to include the name, server, and screenshots as evidence. Also, the evidence must be substantial for us to take any action. I hope this clarifies things for you.]

DF001
01-31-2009, 11:21 AM
I don't really care about being killed. As a PKer myself, I love PvP in Abyss. I really hate Spawn Killing though. >.> Any Spawn Killer that I see might not get banned, but will get reported. :x That's how much I hate it.

[Spawn Killing is definitely a form of harassment. You can submit your reports directly to us, but please make sure to include the name, server, and screenshots as evidence. Also, the evidence must be substantial for us to take any action. I hope this clarifies things for you.]

Lol, did outspark say that to you?

lostangelrequiem
01-31-2009, 11:29 AM
Nice guide Zap, but to be honest this shouldn't be necessary >>
Me and a friend of mine were leveling our nublets a while back, and I was appalled at the behaviour of the PKers, simply appalled. One chased me the entire way around abyss, trailing phinos the whole way. I kid ye not. If it's not a reportable offence, it should be ><
But thanks for the info on what the phino/flies drop =o I never took that much notice xDD

lastlightofdawn
01-31-2009, 11:56 AM
Lol, did outspark say that to you?

Yesh.... >.>

Oh, no, my mistake. I totally made it up. -rolls eyes-

neerk
01-31-2009, 01:23 PM
Nicely put together, especially the bit about "You also agree that you won't create a thread on the forums complaining about getting killed" yet they still do at least once a week.

DF001
01-31-2009, 04:32 PM
Yesh.... >.>

Oh, no, my mistake. I totally made it up. -rolls eyes-

Did you really have to edit your post to do such comment?

Nice guide Zap, but to be honest this shouldn't be necessary >>
Me and a friend of mine were leveling our nublets a while back, and I was appalled at the behaviour of the PKers, simply appalled. One chased me the entire way around abyss, trailing phinos the whole way. I kid ye not. If it's not a reportable offence, it should be ><
But thanks for the info on what the phino/flies drop =o I never took that much notice xDD

._. well..did you ask him to leave you?

Me neither, but I wanted to cover everything.

Nicely put together, especially the bit about "You also agree that you won't create a thread on the forums complaining about getting killed" yet they still do at least once a week.

We can only hope~

THr3eS01di3Rs
01-31-2009, 04:39 PM
Lol nice guide, this should help those newbies that come on the forums and complain about the 10-36 abyss alot lol.

lastlightofdawn
01-31-2009, 07:26 PM
Did you really have to edit your post to do such comment?

Meh. Guess not. -shrugs-

If it bothered you, sorry.

dark_anime
02-09-2009, 07:48 PM
I put myself on that list as a peace maker or pkk but now I'm playing windslayer ^-^
so no me for 3 months at least

DF001
02-15-2009, 02:22 PM
Update: I am finally going to get a char to level 20.

ferrarii
07-30-2009, 11:45 AM
would anymind telling me what kind of exp i would get if i was partying abyss at lvl43, how much exp per monster and approx how long to lvl (w/o getting pked continuously, hopefully ><)

drigr_x
07-30-2009, 05:01 PM
Necro >.>1234567890

ssj4six
05-09-2010, 12:53 PM
Lol. xD

Very informed o.o Great for new people who don't understand the killing in 2x Abyss.

:x Is it just me, or did you say that swearing is aloud in the Abyss? @_@ Because that's against the ToS... I screenshot everyone who swears at someone for killing them. :x

SNITCH -.- mind your business if someone curses it's for a good reason.

grummin
05-09-2010, 03:30 PM
Nice necro, dude...how deep did you have to dig to find this corpse?

Shadowic2
05-09-2010, 03:49 PM
SNITCH -.- mind your business if someone curses it's for a good reason.

Please do not Necro-Post. This thread has been inactive since 2009.

Also, there is no good reason to break the Terms of Service.

-Closed-