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Dragonfly77
01-18-2009, 03:59 PM
As I read the forums, most people seem to want to have the level caps returned to the abyss. When they were first changed to be every 20 levels instead of every 10 levels, the abyss was flooded with people ready to look for easy kill points, and the forums was flooded with complaints. And now that the abyss is opened to all levels dispate the generally negative feedback.

:confused:

There are advantage to having an open level abyss. It's easy to level up if you have a good party going in a high leveled area. Better exp, better drops, at the risk of running into a higher leveled player. But pvp and pve is how the abyss is. Pkers get their easy kill points..(I'm not supporting those who kill lower levels, but if you have to look at the population at a whole, they do make up a part of it. So their advantage in open level abyss is to get to kill lower levels for easy points.. >.>). You can also hang out with friends who are much higer leveled than you; something not possible in capped abysses.

So, my suggestion is to return the level caps back by 10, and open a seperate, open level abyss. Different level monsters could roam this abyss, with the easier ones being near the entrance and progressing harder the further you venture in.

The abyss is an 'enter at your own risk' zone, which makes it fun and interesting. I like how it's also pvp, and I hope they don't remove that function. =/

/discuss

animeswimmerfan
01-18-2009, 04:41 PM
Well i like the idea but ..... ( fine i won't say anything against OP and ONwhatever)
it would be fun i could wander my alt account into the 70+ monster zone lol

TITLE
01-18-2009, 08:19 PM
Most complains should be gone by the time they release Instant Dungeon. From what I've heard, partying there will transfer your party to a certain lvl range based off of the party (or I'm assuming, the highest lvl player). I'm having high hopes this Instant Dungeon clears up most of the mess dumped on Abysses already.

devin_nicolai
01-18-2009, 09:13 PM
Look a kitteh!

mysweetescape
01-19-2009, 09:33 PM
True, an open lvled abyss can give advantages.

But the disadvantages come with it.


Abyss killing has already been crazed because of the new lvl caps. If the Abyss turned more open than that, well...
@_@.

Asheer
01-21-2009, 12:09 PM
Kitteh Rulez :D.

oyatoss
01-21-2009, 01:29 PM
Kitteh is powahful :D

Dragonfly77
01-22-2009, 08:34 PM
Hmm..maybe I shouldn't have put that kitty in there..XD

Ideas on open level abyss????

A_geezy
01-22-2009, 11:41 PM
So you're asking Outspark to pay OS to make a new map(s) because you have observed some people complaining about the current system?

Here's the plain and simple problem: what you propose costs real money to produce, not only in the production of a new map or system of maps, but also in the sense that Outspark will lose revenues from the Cash Shop.

It's nice that you have come up with a creative workaround, but this sort of thing is largely unlikely to ever see even consideration for development from Outspark.

Asheer
01-23-2009, 04:20 AM
Dragonfly77 i am sorry if my post upset you but looking at the current level of "courtesy" showing in abysses by many "honorable" players such open level abyss will be turned at nothing more as another battlefield of hate.
Maybe one day when staff wake up and will regulate entire pvp then we might consider implementing open abyss.
Now this idea will do more harm as good.

Klothos
01-23-2009, 02:01 PM
My only complaint about open-level abyss is the oppurtunity it gives for shroom-sitting P-Levelers. Then, of course, people dont have to go to abyss to P-Level

storageforhero
01-23-2009, 06:37 PM
i don't care about lower levels going in abyss to grind there, i will just love it if ppl kill the PKers and make them lose exp.... and turn exp loss into KP loss, that way PKers will just forget about making kill points (much likely)

Dragonfly77
01-24-2009, 12:15 PM
i don't care about lower levels going in abyss to grind there, i will just love it if ppl kill the PKers and make them lose exp.... and turn exp loss into KP loss, that way PKers will just forget about making kill points (much likely)

I like that idea too. If you can gain reputation, you should also be able to lose it.

True, an open lvled abyss can give advantages.

But the disadvantages come with it.


Abyss killing has already been crazed because of the new lvl caps. If the Abyss turned more open than that, well...
@_@.

I think I should rephrase myself. Most of the abysses are pretty much already open-level, so they take away the fun and challenge of capped levels. With open level abyss, you can get the benefits of capped abysses and current abysses.

So you're asking Outspark to pay OS to make a new map(s) because you have observed some people complaining about the current system?

Here's the plain and simple problem: what you propose costs real money to produce, not only in the production of a new map or system of maps, but also in the sense that Outspark will lose revenues from the Cash Shop.

It's nice that you have come up with a creative workaround, but this sort of thing is largely unlikely to ever see even consideration for development from Outspark.

It doesn't have to be a whole new map, they can just borrow one of the more spacious abysses and stick a portal guard in there. The big issue is the placement of mobs, respawn rate, etc. But pretty much a copy-and-paste job.

Dragonfly77 i am sorry if my post upset you but looking at the current level of "courtesy" showing in abysses by many "honorable" players such open level abyss will be turned at nothing more as another battlefield of hate.
Maybe one day when staff wake up and will regulate entire pvp then we might consider implementing open abyss.
Now this idea will do more harm as good.

No offense taken. ^^ Constructive criticism is welcome in threads. But, as I said above, all the abysses are already pretty much open-level as it is.

StoveTopGnome
01-27-2009, 11:50 PM
open abyss would be jus fine but it would turn out like FBZ jus with mobs
<3 Duuu Ettttt <3

Saruin
01-28-2009, 02:10 AM
I think it's an excellent idea.
That way, a PKer will be able to come in, as well as any OTHER player.
The only reason a PKer most of the time will attack someone is because they don't expect them to fight back.

If abyss is open to all levels, it would benefit a lot more than hurt.

Outspark: More money. This means that since abyss is open to all levels, PKers will rush to lower level abysses. Lower levels call their higher leveled friends to kill PK. PK buys cs to survive. PKK buy cs to kill cs'd PKs. Profit.

PK: Can go pick on weaker players.

PKK: Can finally go defend their friends.

Lower levels: Can get powerleveled.

Higher levels: Can powerlevel.

That losing KP instead of exp is an EXCELLENT idea as well.

Dragonfly77
02-01-2009, 12:26 PM
*bumps* more input?