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mehe20
01-19-2009, 11:14 PM
Well umm I just found out.....that we share about 60% of our dna with a bananna......I just fell over in shock lol.

Anyone else?

Dragonfly77
01-20-2009, 12:34 AM
O.o *Double check on google*
oh wow.

Naomi89
01-20-2009, 02:04 AM
I studied the double Helix partially at school (didn't really study it well though lol) but I don't remember anything about a banana. Interesting. I double checked on google too. Being a part of a banana isn't exactly something you'd expect to hear :P

Poisoned77
01-20-2009, 02:14 AM
While some sensationalists may like to say that we are fifty percent banana because we share half our genes with the banana does not make it so. The genetic similarity between us and bananas is simply analogous, in that the genes are similar in function but do not share a genetic commonality. For example, both bananas and humans share a gene that controls cell growth, but that does not mean the proteins are arranged in necessarily the same sequence.

The difference between this similarity and our similarity to, say, chimpanzees is that in chimps, they contain a few genes that code nearly identical amino acids as in humans, resulting in homologous genes (genes that share a common genetic ancestor) between our species.

Flibbe
01-20-2009, 03:56 AM
>.> so if I'm half banana am I half a cannibal?

Asheer
01-20-2009, 05:41 AM
There also studies witch proves that genetic differences between all species on earth is in border of 1%.
This looks like whoever was responsabile for creating life on Eart (God, Aliens, "...insert your theory here...") uses this same gene matrix whit slight modification of final part of DNA witch determine what species we will be :).
But one thing is sure Darwin was wrong whit his Theory of Evolution.

mysty2
01-20-2009, 06:35 AM
dose this mean i am half APE half BANANNA

mehe20
01-20-2009, 06:35 AM
Well thats because we built shelter, power, get our own food at the market, get water from the sink and we hunt with guns. Theres no need for evolution for humans because everything is easy for us. Unless the enviroment were to change dramaticaly like weather, temperature, enviroment for long periods of time then some evolution can be made. I want a tail!!!!But not a naked tail like rats though...

mysty2
01-20-2009, 06:36 AM
Well thats because we built shelter, power, get our own food at the market, get water from the sink and we hunt with guns. Theres no need for evolution for humans because everything is easy for us.

no
humans+3world=starving

mehe20
01-20-2009, 06:40 AM
no
humans+3world=starving

For VERY long periods of time....I'm talking centurys.....or millions of years for that matter. We came so early in the time line and we've come so far, but now we gotta fix the mistake.

mehe20
01-20-2009, 06:45 AM
Hey umm...does this mean that if I eat a bannana I'm eating my 60% cousin? It just doesn't sound right to me lol.

ilovepink
01-20-2009, 02:30 PM
R WE BANANAS?!!??!? -gasp-

cwistmas
01-20-2009, 02:47 PM
*Falls Over*

Wow.....that's just so unexpected.

Hakai_Miko
01-20-2009, 05:27 PM
w00t!!!!!!
I am a bannana vampire kitty girl then!
yay! 8D!~

Poisoned77
01-20-2009, 05:48 PM
There also studies witch proves that genetic differences between all species on earth is in border of 1%.
This looks like whoever was responsabile for creating life on Eart (God, Aliens, "...insert your theory here...") uses this same gene matrix whit slight modification of final part of DNA witch determine what species we will be :).
But one thing is sure Darwin was wrong whit his Theory of Evolution.

Considering that every organism on Earth evolved from one common ancestor, it pretty much provides more evidence for the Theory of Evolution, not disproves it.

Think of it this way...in dogs, there is a gene that codes for hair color. There is a gene present in every mammal that codes for hair color. Does this mean it contains identical gene sequences, and that we are all of the same species? No. It proves that somewhere in prehistoric times, every mammal on the planet shared a common ancestor.

Now, on to the fact that you say Darwin's theory is wrong. Let us look at the scientific definition of theories.

(n) theory (a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena) "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"

The Theory of Evolution has been tested and re-tested since Darwin published The Origin of Species in 1859. Everything from Mendel's study of phenotypes in pea plants to the fossil record proves the process of evolution through selection. There are literally terabytes of information, documents, studies, observations, and tests that all prove evolution without a doubt.

And again, no, we are not part banana, nor are bananas part human. The only thing we share is that we both possess different genes that code for the same trait.

mehe20
01-20-2009, 08:01 PM
Don't humans have Gnomes which actualy serve no purpose? Is that a clue to evolution? Cause I get confused with all this, cause I always hypothesised that those Gnomes would be linked to evolution.

Dragonfly77
01-20-2009, 08:14 PM
I guess it's not too surprising since the DNA of a chimp is some 90%-ish (idk the exact number) related to a human.

dark_anime
01-20-2009, 08:16 PM
Don't humans have Gnomes which actually serve no purpose? Is that a clue to evolution? Cause I get confused with all this, cause I always hypothesized that those Gnomes would be linked to evolution.(spell check lol:darkanime)
Human does have few stuff useless to them, one is from the intestine, the small toe, and other stuff to list lol (maybe legs lol from laziness)

alicina
01-20-2009, 08:31 PM
I always thought it was 50%.
*Sigh* I may never eat another banana ever again...NEVER!!! *Holds banana and stares* Hm...I'm hungry. *Eats it* NEVER I SAY!!! NEVAAA!!!

Poisoned77
01-20-2009, 09:07 PM
Don't humans have Gnomes which actualy serve no purpose? Is that a clue to evolution? Cause I get confused with all this, cause I always hypothesised that those Gnomes would be linked to evolution.

Yes, there are many organisms that retain vestigial body features that were once used by an ancestor but no longer serve a practical purpose. One such feature in humans is the appendix. It is present in chimpanzees and other primates as a cecum and is used to break down especially fibrous plant material. Humans do not eat as fibrous foods now, so the appendix has withered to a small remnant of what it once was.

Another example is a whale's pelvis and thighbones. Buried deep within the blubber, a whale's pelvis serves no function and is not connected to any other bone structure. It is a remnant of the time when the ancestor's of whales lived on land. now that whales live exclusively in water and have no need for a pelvis or thighbone, it has become vestigial.

Vestigial and atavistic structures are a very big piece of evidence for evolution.

mehe20
01-20-2009, 09:11 PM
What kind of change in enviroment would be needed to allow humans to grow wings? But mostly on the back, using pectoral muscles for flapping. As long as we get to keep our arms and hands. Any ideas?

alicina
01-20-2009, 09:32 PM
What kind of change in enviroment would be needed to allow humans to grow wings? But mostly on the back, using pectoral muscles for flapping. As long as we get to keep our arms and hands. Any ideas?

Well, if you have read Maximum Ride it is about a girl who has been a subject of an experiment. She is 98% human and 2% bird who develops wings. The change in environment would most probably be evolution. Mixing DNA would probably be a better solution if they are not patient enough to wait another billion years or so.

mehe20
01-20-2009, 10:01 PM
Well..until we can actualy get complete control and understanding of DNA.

solinarii
01-20-2009, 10:39 PM
Well thats because we built shelter, power, get our own food at the market, get water from the sink and we hunt with guns. Theres no need for evolution for humans because everything is easy for us. Unless the enviroment were to change dramaticaly like weather, temperature, enviroment for long periods of time then some evolution can be made. I want a tail!!!!But not a naked tail like rats though...

A tail is all well and good but give me functional wings!!

ahtai
01-20-2009, 10:57 PM
Well in molecular evolution, it is said that earth is once upon a cosemo soup. Lighting strike on this cosemo soup and create life form and hence all life original the same origin.

All organism is existance of cell. Well human cell and plant cell is very similar, only plant cell have a hard outer shell while human do not. But if you look at the lipid coating of the two cell they are identical. The powerhouse of the cell is identical as well even in structure.

Poisoned77
01-20-2009, 11:26 PM
What kind of change in enviroment would be needed to allow humans to grow wings? But mostly on the back, using pectoral muscles for flapping. As long as we get to keep our arms and hands. Any ideas?

There would have to be some environmental pressure that would give an advantage to that adaptation. Maybe, the lowest parts of the atmosphere become toxic, so by natural selection people living in high altitudes whose lungs are used to thinner air survive. Then, since these humans have a need to travel from place to place, the people with the lightest bones are selected for survival. Then through some insane reordering of physiological structure the humans with the best mutations for light bones and ability to breathe in thin air begin to reproduce and the mutation is passed and enhanced on to their offspring. A few thousand generations down the road, humans begin to fly.

This situation is extremely hypothetical, our bodies would have to change drastically. Muscle structure, bone structure and composition, all would have to change, since any primates existing muscles are absolutely unsuited for sustained flight. I remember reading that the wing span required to achieve a proper weight to lift ratio to get off the ground, the wingspan on a human would have to be at least 20 feet wide.

allyyCORE
01-20-2009, 11:27 PM
dose this mean i am half APE half BANANNA

Just thought this was funny as hell in relevance to Poison's very professional answer :)

milkyway520
01-21-2009, 11:23 AM
lol pretty much what poisoned77 said, we share much genetic similarities simply because dna is dna, it looks the same and is constructed the same, sugar-phosphate-nitrogenous base and u only get 4 diff bases that have designated partners, so it's hard not to have similarities. but i don't think i'm related to a banana i like to eat them too much XD if i am o wells -munch munch- hmm yummy

mehe20
01-21-2009, 02:20 PM
Well in molecular evolution, it is said that earth is once upon a cosemo soup. Lighting strike on this cosemo soup and create life form and hence all life original the same origin.

All organism is existance of cell. Well human cell and plant cell is very similar, only plant cell have a hard outer shell while human do not. But if you look at the lipid coating of the two cell they are identical. The powerhouse of the cell is identical as well even in structure.

Life came from other planets, the soup was all just a myth, they ran tests on every sort of thing they could come up with on the soup, radiation, lightning, jolts....everything. Nothing happened, life came from other planets actualy. I don't wanna be confusing so just watch it all on youtube, type down-->Life came from other planets.

erick-
01-22-2009, 11:51 AM
There would have to be some environmental pressure that would give an advantage to that adaptation. Maybe, the lowest parts of the atmosphere become toxic, so by natural selection people living in high altitudes whose lungs are used to thinner air survive. Then, since these humans have a need to travel from place to place, the people with the lightest bones are selected for survival. Then through some insane reordering of physiological structure the humans with the best mutations for light bones and ability to breathe in thin air begin to reproduce and the mutation is passed and enhanced on to their offspring. A few thousand generations down the road, humans begin to fly.

This situation is extremely hypothetical, our bodies would have to change drastically. Muscle structure, bone structure and composition, all would have to change, since any primates existing muscles are absolutely unsuited for sustained flight. I remember reading that the wing span required to achieve a proper weight to lift ratio to get off the ground, the wingspan on a human would have to be at least 20 feet wide.


The poisoned one strikes again! As always, you made a particularly good point and presented it in an organized, coherent manner. I will have to keep a gas mask under my bed to be able to get to sleep at night, though; all this thinking about death caused by a toxic lower atmosphere is making me nervous. By the way, why would people need those things to survive in those conditions? After all, there is a thing called technology, you know. As technology becomes more and more sophisticated and people gain more and more knowledge, this sort of situation becomes somewhat less threatening. Humans are very resourceful beings, and they have a constantly growing arsenal of technology to aid them in survival, communication, travel, and just about everything else. You have underestimated intelligent life and seem to have placed too much emphasis on the theory of evolution, here. Biological and evolutionary characteristics are certainly not everything. I, for one, would prefer to have a superior intellect (which I already have) to being capable of sustained flight! I have a spaceship that suits that purpose perfectly, anyway.



Just thought this was funny as hell in relevance to Poison's very professional answer :)


Well, most off-topic threads are off topic:rolleyes:.

cwistmas
01-22-2009, 12:45 PM
Hey, hold up...now have they fond an answer to this yet? That DNA has telekinetic capability, because I remember reading this one article where DNA structure is complicated and unknown as to why it would even have been such a structure. And that certain research has been done, so DNA is made up of some stuff and they took that material of DNA that was not together and put it beside another already compiled piece of DNA, so then then the material had just formed itself into the exact same structure as the DNA right beside it. I think thats how the experiment went....but heres the article(copy and paste) right below me.




DNA Found to Have "Impossible" Telepathic Properties

DNA has been found to have a bizarre ability to put itself together, even at a distance, when according to known science it shouldn't be able to. Explanation: None, at least not yet.

Scientists are reporting evidence that contrary to our current beliefs about what is possible, intact double-stranded DNA has the “amazing” ability to recognize similarities in other DNA strands from a distance. Somehow they are able to identify one another, and the tiny bits of genetic material tend to congregate with similar DNA. The recognition of similar sequences in DNA’s chemical subunits, occurs in a way unrecognized by science. There is no known reason why the DNA is able to combine the way it does, and from a current theoretical standpoint this feat should be chemically impossible.

Even so, the research published in ACS’ Journal of Physical Chemistry B, shows very clearly that homology recognition between sequences of several hundred nucleotides occurs without physical contact or presence of proteins. Double helixes of DNA can recognize matching molecules from a distance and then gather together, all seemingly without help from any other molecules or chemical signals.

In the study, scientists observed the behavior of fluorescently tagged DNA strands placed in water that contained no proteins or other material that could interfere with the experiment. Strands with identical nucleotide sequences were about twice as likely to gather together as DNA strands with different sequences. No one knows how individual DNA strands could possibly be communicating in this way, yet somehow they do. The “telepathic” effect is a source of wonder and amazement for scientists.

“Amazingly, the forces responsible for the sequence recognition can reach across more than one nanometer of water separating the surfaces of the nearest neighbor DNA,” said the authors Geoff S. Baldwin, Sergey Leikin, John M. Seddon, and Alexei A. Kornyshev and colleagues.

This recognition effect may help increase the accuracy and efficiency of the homologous recombination of genes, which is a process responsible for DNA repair, evolution, and genetic diversity. The new findings may also shed light on ways to avoid recombination errors, which are factors in cancer, aging, and other health issues.

Posted by Rebecca Sato.

http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2008/02/dna-found-to-ha.html

ilovepink
01-22-2009, 01:24 PM
banana+monkey= HUMAN! XD

but srly thats just weird..

Poisoned77
01-22-2009, 02:10 PM
Life came from other planets, the soup was all just a myth, they ran tests on every sort of thing they could come up with on the soup, radiation, lightning, jolts....everything. Nothing happened, life came from other planets actualy. I don't wanna be confusing so just watch it all on youtube, type down-->Life came from other planets.

It was most likely a combination of molecules deposited from a passing comet or asteroid AND radiation from the sun that produced the proverbial "primordial soup".

One such example is Saturn's largest moons, Titan. Titan's atmosphere is more or less chemically composed of about the same molecular compounds as Earth's early atmosphere. Better yet, Titan is scored by dry river and sea beds, and much of its surface is covered in this viscous fluid that's not quite liquid and not quite solid.

Recently, data sent back from Titan's surface from the Huygens probe has helped scientists postulate how life on Earth began. By taking molecules that have been found to exist on Titan's surface and shoving them in a vacuum chamber, then exposing these molecules to UV radiation the scientists have recorded the formation of organic compounds, the building blocks of life.

cwistmas
01-22-2009, 02:13 PM
It was most likely a combination of molecules deposited from a passing comet or asteroid AND radiation from the sun that produced the proverbial "primordial soup".

One such example is Saturn's largest moons, Titan. Titan's atmosphere is more or less chemically composed of about the same molecular compounds as Earth's early atmosphere. Better yet, Titan is scored by dry river and sea beds, and much of its surface is covered in this viscous fluid that's not quite liquid and not quite solid.

Recently, data sent back from Titan's surface from the Huygens probe has helped scientists postulate how life on Earth began. By taking molecules that have been found to exist on Titan's surface and shoving them in a vacuum chamber, then exposing these molecules to UV radiation the scientists have recorded the formation of organic compounds, the building blocks of life.

I do remember watching Saturns Secrets and learning that organic material is needed for life, sorta speak it is not the cause of life but a contributor to the climax of life. By the way vaccuum seems very weird to me because its all just an endless bunch of nothing, does anything compose of it? Anything that makes up space itself?

Romanthedestroyer
01-22-2009, 08:12 PM
Thats very interesting

MMM.... Banana

mehe20
01-22-2009, 10:00 PM
Lol

10char

aaikje
01-23-2009, 08:31 AM
I will never eat a banana again. 0.0

erick-
01-23-2009, 03:10 PM
I do remember watching Saturns Secrets and learning that organic material is needed for life, sorta speak it is not the cause of life but a contributor to the climax of life. By the way vaccuum seems very weird to me because its all just an endless bunch of nothing, does anything compose of it? Anything that makes up space itself?

That is a good question, and one that has been asked for centuries, as well! Actually, something certainly does make up space itself. However, at the same time, it is sort of like "nothing". It is called dark matter, and it is mostly concentrated in the void of deep space where there are no galaxies present. Dark matter is a mysterious substance that does not directly interact with matter. It does, however, have a very dense structure and a powerful gravitational pull on matter. There is also a substance called dark energy, and it does exactly the opposite. It is the reason why only very massive objects can have a gravitational field. It resists the gravitational force, to an extent. Some scientists believe dark energy may be a constant; that means that the amount of it is the same no matter where you go. It is invisible, silent, and intangible, as is dark matter. Dark matter and dark energy were present at the beginning of the universe. At the time of the "Big Bang", dark energy was in greater abundance than dark matter, hence why the universe grows. Nevertheless, the amount of dark matter in proportion to dark energy has been steadily increasing ever since that point. I, the eminent Erick, now rest my case.