Orcs, And mushys in Uruga and Intentionally killing low lvl vendors

[araikon69ah]

Lately In Uru You may See an orc just appear (between storage and exit stairs) seemingly outta the blue(theres a spot buy Forest perimeter gate guard as well) Heres the thing, There not appearing outta the blue, the one spot by the stairs is from someone Dragging Monsters from the bottom of the stars Up the ravine not the stairs This has been happing every since the patch that gave Uru permeable(IE: archers and mages cant shoot orcs from deck of uru and be safe from them cause now they run up the walls into uru) Not a bad patch but it makes it impossible to actually SS someone doing it this way yet you still lose EXP,Vend Time, and all the money you may have made if someoen hadn't decided your vend didnt need to be there. I actually Sat guard For 3 hrs two days ago so a friend didnt lose his vend to Orcs or mushies that are loose. The second I went to watch a war in sandhill someone did it again and bam He died. I called him up and he reset shop up but still... isnt it supposed to be bannable to intentionally lose aggro on someone and if so how will we ever get SS if the permeable barriers allow people to drag monsters from anywhere outside that dont neccessarily follow em up the stairs there was one player doing this and i tried for an hour to get a satisfactory SS and couldnt cause when done the right way the monster just seem to appear. I understand Why its unfair to let archers and mages shoot of uru deck and at the same time I don't want to hafta stand guard so people dont drag monsters on to others vendors alot of people use lower lvl players to sell for multiple reasons (afk guild war protection exp loss possibility etc) its not fair to them either and with virtually no way to ss how are we supposed to report the people doing this. I hate it So do others and there isnt a thing we can really do about it. It comes once again to respecting others and we all know How well that happens here >< ... Is anything ever going to be done to fix this or are we basically SOL ?

[leftoverninja]

One way I think they could improve this is by letting characters get HP back while vending, like we do when we rest normally. That way, a higher level character that actually has a purpose in Uruga, can be punched for a good amount of time by 1 or 2 orcs before dying while vending.

A second possible option is to change the aggro type of the Uruga monsters. Either making them not attack until being attacked like lower level mobs, or by making them return to their original spawn location before picking a new victim (unless they are attacked on the way).

[araikon69ah]

Anything lol at this point Id take old walls back and let archers and mages shoot the monsters it wont give them exp if there too low level and if it does give them exp the should have the ability if not the know how to kite one orc at a time anyways.... Besides if they want to stand there and shoot an orc for 20 min for 800 exp I say theyve earned it lmao

[MAJ_-END-]

One way I think they could improve this is by letting characters get HP back while vending, like we do when we rest normally. That way, a higher level character that actually has a purpose in Uruga, can be punched for a good amount of time by 1 or 2 orcs before dying while vending.

A second possible option is to change the aggro type of the Uruga monsters. Either making them not attack until being attacked like lower level mobs, or by making them return to their original spawn location before picking a new victim (unless they are attacked on the way).


I agree with your solutions
That would be wonderful and work Great
-shakes fist- Death To Orcs!! xD

[DF001]

>.> once I was getting skills from the skill master, an orc cames out of nowhere and kill me. I couldn't notice it was killing me because the background of the shop is dark..

[MAJ_-END-]

Wow...lol
thats unlucky x.x
Unless you had blessing of teva?
=P

[araikon69ah]

I was doing what i call the NOOB strut (taking all your armor off and walking around with Plus nine blue bow) just cause i was bored and I almost died cause someone dragged an orc the way I mentiond above. I didnt notice as I was shopping. Luckily some random fighter Devestated which i did see and abruptly closed shop to my supprise there was an orc dying right in front of me (i dont recomend taking your armor off but WTH right lols) Idve been Really upset if i died cause an orc popped outta nowhere and cost me 140k exp LOL I know dont take off my armor. Still not the point i didnt see it comming and sure wasnt expecting it there and that is my issue lols

[123boys]

I have actually seen an archer pull a Nox captain all the way from the back of the map up the stairs in Uru. Once they were near thier intended target they used natures protection to lose aggro and have their target killed.
They yelled at anyone that attacked the monster it was really very sad and childish that someone would behave that way.

[evieevie]

I have to agree that ppl that pull mobs up the stairs are idiots. But also if you are likely to be attacked while vendering why not just vend in elde?

[araikon69ah]

Beacuse Uru has more Cash in the players pockets period and some Higher lvls avoid eldy alltogether I can sell Plus nine equips in Uru along with T3 scrolls no prob selling the same amount of Sellables in eldy takes twice as long usually

[evieevie]

Not true most of us high lvls will check out Elde vends becuase alot of ppl there sell cheaper than uruga!

[araikon69ah]

well on Bijou T3 scrolls are almost always Cheaper in uru And i go for selling quanity at low price instead of a few at a higher price Sure people check out eldy vends Im the type of person that can quote almost everything for sale in vend on server as I shop alot the issue here isnt where to sell its people dragging orcs in ways that cant be reported and as Ive made 75 gold in the last 2 months selling scrolls trust me i know where they sell better ;D

[araikon69ah]

O and thats without Sign of tycoon someof us cant afford lots of SC

[evieevie]

well on epith everything is more expensive in uruga than in elde. As for scrolls i never really needed them so wouldnt know about those. But if you take the risk to vend there for more gold you have to understand the risks. It s no diff to when i lost my shroom the the stupid turkey event with the nix lol.

[araikon69ah]

Except you dont loose exp During events and Its a bannable offense to drag mobs on players

[DF001]

Wow...lol
thats unlucky x.x
Unless you had blessing of teva?
=P

Nah.

It sucks because that is 60-67 clover trumphies..

[evieevie]

um yes we did loose exp because it was uruga. You can loose exp in events unless they are in elde!

[araikon69ah]

Off topic JFYI 11 min if everything goes as planned

[Kyo_Sama]

Or they could go with plan C.

make the town guards get off their lazy bums and do something.

[araikon69ah]

Once again thats not really the issue either The issue is Players Breaking the Rules, and Disrespecting others not the amount of gold you make or exp you lose. It takes me 7 min to solo 150k with my archer in abyss I could care about exp. I dont like seeing people getting away with breaking the rules that I and Other players abide by and respect for others enjoyment as well as ours. Outspark makes the rules So as to create an invironment we can all get along in You as well as anyone should care if someone is blatently breaking rules as it sets examples for others to do the same wether they no better or not This whole thread is about rule breaking and random orcs seeming to POP into Uru Not were to vend or how much exp you lose thats just a side effect of someone breaking the rules.

[evieevie]

Yeah but i think the point is the same, when we had the event in uruga and ppl lost exp due to nix death the staff apologised but basically said if you vend in uruga you take the risk. Maybe outspark intentionally like it this way?

[araikon69ah]

LOL once again not the point TOS rule says Its a bannable offense to drag mobs on other people you seem to keep skipping that part Im not sure why its the only reason this thread was created as there is now ways to do it without being caught Ive seen players sit and do it and sit and laugh cause they no they cant be SS while doing it if they do it right this thread is about that not Loss of exp caused by GM Which is not the same as by player no matter how you look at it

[evieevie]

Curious been a while since i read TOS hehe. Which bit of toss rule covers this?

[araikon69ah]

Fair and Fun play.

[Kyo_Sama]

Curious been a while since i read TOS hehe. Which bit of toss rule covers this?

p) You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while using the Outspark Service. Failure to follow said instructions may result in disciplinary account action, up to and including termination.

that part does, albeit a liberal interpretation of the rule. Outspark staff aka GM's have made it publicly know that training players intentionally isnt tolerated.

[araikon69ah]

I love your Siggy Kyo_Sama :D

[evieevie]

Hmm maybe gms dont think its that big a deal as one of them did it themselves lol

[araikon69ah]

You just Like to argue dont you. Im sure they take Breaking of any Rule/Violation of TOS seriously A GM event In URU isnt the same as players breaking rules Sorry you lost exp there and were obviously never gonna see Eye To Eye on this issue so I guess we can agree to disagree

[Kyo_Sama]

Hmm maybe gms dont think its that big a deal as one of them did it themselves lol

As with any gaming environment there are certain perks that come with being an Admin / GM. :)

First thing is that they arent players and as such arent limited by the ToS but rather by the contracts they consented to by working for outspark

[evieevie]

Id still like to know which one did it lol.

[araikon69ah]

Off topic again but i just keep watching bush ducking and LMAO :D its been more enteraining then everthing on the forum tonight LOLS i serioulsy love it

[leftoverninja]

Or they could go with plan C.

make the town guards get off their lazy bums and do something.

Thats an awesome idea as well! Thos lazy bums.

[evieevie]

maybe its to much effort to change the guards after all look how long it takes for little things like summon to get fixed O.o

[Gruntbuggly]

Anything lol at this point Id take old walls back and let archers and mages shoot the monsters it wont give them exp if there too low level and if it does give them exp the should have the ability if not the know how to kite one orc at a time anyways.... Besides if they want to stand there and shoot an orc for 20 min for 800 exp I say theyve earned it lmao

Unfortunately I believe this patch served a very important purpose: to stop players from glitching monsters. It sure made Mini Dragon much more fun and challenging as in the old days again. There are annoying points about it, like walking along a cliff face and not even shooting at a monster but drawing it's aggro (such as in BK area). I do like the lack of being able to glitch mobs now though, I'm all for making the game more challenging and less glitchy.

[Madcharo]

p) You will follow the instructions of authorized personnel while using the Outspark Service. Failure to follow said instructions may result in disciplinary account action, up to and including termination.

that part does, albeit a liberal interpretation of the rule. Outspark staff aka GM's have made it publicly know that training players intentionally isnt tolerated.

Not only this but GMs have publicly explained to the community multiple times that training players intentionally is bannable if there is proof.

[master_roxxor]

My lvl 7 fighter has died so many times while vending; I hate it. I loved being able to snipe before they could climb walls, but I don't think monsters should be able to acess areas that normal players can't, like the walls. People did abuse the ability to snipe before that patch was put in, for instance, when I was a lvl 28 mage, I tagged along with a friend in cp that needed weakened ogres, so I got bored and wound up sniping the Elder King Coll, I took like 5-7 minutes to kill but it was fun. We mages have horrible def, and even worse HP stone capacity, I think we have the right to snipe.

[ahtai]

Not only this but GMs have publicly explained to the community multiple times that training players intentionally is bannable if there is proof.

Too bad because I have reported people taking mob for a walk during boss event to kill vender shop and those people are still walking.

[mehe20]

I despise it but...I got someone back for being such a stuborn lil'punk. Always never participates in kq when he joins. So I see him napping with his shop open and so I took the opprotunity and killed him, after an hour he went back and made his store again, I came back and killed him again. So then he wakes up and tele's out lol.