View Full Version : Teaming in PvP kq
dave009
01-22-2009, 07:47 AM
im probably the thousand and first guy whos complaining about that but since i started a new fighter and finally came into the pvp kq i realized that there are always 4-5 ppl working together. just after i stunned some1 there are 3 archers shooting at me ._.
so...i just wanted to start a little discussion....
saiyou8
01-22-2009, 08:31 AM
mhm, I've noticed this also and it's getting pretty annoying. Getting teamed by capped fighters isn't just so fun.
Once a fighter who stalked me through the whole pvp kq said healing myself is cheap, and when he couldn't catch me he said he can't use skills and I don't need to run lol. Some ppl are just ..... ... ........ lol
Erevan
01-22-2009, 08:38 AM
Well, this is part of the game I think. If you have friends around they will avoid hitting you and will try to kill others first. Imagine you, your guildies and your gf in this situation, what would you do? Probalby, you will attack someone else first.
As in any other situation, teamwork means a lot. I understand you point of view but there is very little to do about this.
Bonthra
01-22-2009, 11:37 AM
Once a fighter who stalked me through the whole pvp kq said healing myself is cheap
<.< and lol. Tell him he can't use pots or stones, then. :D
ryan52
01-22-2009, 06:21 PM
i hate the teamers they cant fight one on one ............ i guess they r just scared XD
palmfruits
01-22-2009, 08:52 PM
Whenever I experienced teamers they came in pairs. I got them back when I hit them with the hammer XD But my last few times at the KQ, I stopped being "good" and was constantly by the teamers.
I never team. If you're a friend and a guildie or in the academy, I don't attack you. Everyone else is a target XD
killerof_joy
01-23-2009, 05:24 AM
I know it's annoying to get teamed, but it going to happen. Friends will team, guild members will team, groups of lower levels will team, you just have to get used to it. Sometimes people wont kill each other out of respect. For example, two of the highest level fighters agree not to kill each other so they don't have to worry about the greastest threat (Mabey). I don't think it should be against the rules for people to help each other out (Probably becasue my guild own the 35-49 one)
A_geezy
01-23-2009, 10:02 AM
I never team. If you're a friend and a guildie or in the academy, I don't attack you. Everyone else is a target XD
You and hypothetical guildy have the same goal in PvP KQ: kill 14 other peers while avoiding death yourself.
~in simple numbers form that runs 1v1v1v1v1...15 times.~
If you decide not to attack a guild member then you are aiding them in accomplishing one half of the KQs goals, (ie they don't have to worry about a threat from you).
~in simple numbers form you have increased their odds by removing one of he 1vs~
If your guildy also chooses to maintain this unwritten code, then you are both working to help eachother out in pursuing the goals of the KQ, (namely the stay alive goal).
~simple numbers format then turns to this: 2v1v1...v1 14 times~
You are teaming, there is no need to take an altruistically "high and mighty" approach to the situation.
Teaming is an inevitable consequence of the human (that's the person behind the keyboard) pack mentality; we would never kill one of our own when a substitute is available. PvP KQ provides at least 13 useable substitutes, therefore you should understand that teaming is unavoidable. Please stop complaining about teaming in PvP, simply go out and make friends or increase your spending in the cash shop to compensate.
Madcharo
01-23-2009, 10:20 AM
I don't mind teaming at all since without it, no good fighter would ever drop the hammer since without teaming, only 1 person could attack another person at one time.
What I don't like is when people make a truce with another player. This is just cowardly and honestly, I would feel awkward having to look around before I click tab to make sure that nobody I was truced with got killed.
I have actually truced with one cleric one time just cause they asked me and I accidentally killed him twice because he was standing right there and I tabbed him. He actually cussed me out in /w... O.o"
Anyway, it's just a game. If you win, you win. If you lose, you lose. If you win with someone elses help, you win the KQ but you don't really deserver the credit. :|
dave009
01-23-2009, 11:12 AM
whats the reward of being 1st in a pvp kq actually (never been first)
A_geezy
01-23-2009, 11:47 AM
I don't mind teaming at all since without it, no good fighter would ever drop the hammer since without teaming, only 1 person could attack another person at one time.
What I don't like is when people make a truce with another player. This is just cowardly and honestly, I would feel awkward having to look around before I click tab to make sure that nobody I was truced with got killed.
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Again, teaming is a form of truce in every applicable context. If you truce verbally before hand is the same as the unwritten truce that goes on when someone gets the hammer and everyone attacks that person.
The idea is that there is always going to be teaming because in the majority of cases the truce is simply understood to be right and practiced.
*note: I hate being teamed in PvP KQ, it just happened to me like 10 minutes ago, a mage following a fighter around both attacking the same people together; but there's nothing to do about, just move on*
Haplon
01-23-2009, 11:55 AM
Well Os can submit a ticket requesting that ??? become everyone's names and I wouldn't mind if they made everyone wear they're noob suit, as a skin. I mean they're making weap skins right? Well why not make it so all you see is a noob running around with they're weapons out. That would surely cut down teaming in my opinion.
thedark17
01-23-2009, 12:25 PM
most people dont understand, when you team you LOSE one person to kill
add 3+ people to your "team" and thats 3 less people to kill
its not worth it to team with more than one person, seeing how there will be arguments of who gets first and whatnot
AmazonPhoenix
01-23-2009, 12:32 PM
I won't attack my guildies unless we agree that we're going to have a free-for-all. Most people here deign that as teaming, fair enough, but otherwise everytime someone outside of my guild whispers me "team?" or however they ask, I ALWAYS reply no thankyou ;). I can win by myself ^_^.
A_geezy
01-23-2009, 12:40 PM
Well Os can submit a ticket requesting that ??? become everyone's names and I wouldn't mind if they made everyone wear they're noob suit, as a skin. I mean they're making weap skins right? Well why not make it so all you see is a noob running around with they're weapons out. That would surely cut down teaming in my opinion.
that's a fairly decent suggestion, but consider the terms with which outspark sold us all our nice stuff. OS can't just take it all away whenever they want, basically I paid for my nice outfit and I want you to see it when I stand over your defeated corpse.*
Also, taking away outfits is one thing; but effecting the change you want would also require that nobody had premium beauty shop enhancements. Cuz right now I know what everyone's character looks like... Gaara has a pink fro lol... and scripting that would be very, very pricey for OS = fail.
*edit: OS's ToS do say they can take it away whenever, but check your local Consumers' Affair laws; I know in California a business cannot actually sell you anything and then take it away without filing bankruptcy.
Saruin
01-23-2009, 01:52 PM
I only team with one person, who is a cleric, and pretty much just cause we're friends.
There's 2 DD fighters after you the whole KQ? Seriously, when I go on my fighter, I ALWAYS get teamed by these two fighters, who actually go out of their way to kill me. (They don't, of course. I'm to slick for them. 8D)
That's funny.
Cause I still win.
Haplon
01-23-2009, 02:33 PM
I didn't say take it away permanently or just for the kq my bad. As for the facial things just use a slime mask or something. As for you wanting everyone to see its you it's either hubris or you don't wanna think your alone in the kq.
The kq is meant to be a free for all, if it wasn't they'd allow pt's. My thoughts were never to clear to start with, but maybe someone with a better vocabulary can explain. Now I may be wrong on all accounts but I'm sure if you got teamed constantly it'd be an issue. I do like the kq though even if it remains like this.
But I do know people who get teamed on in the kq have gone to gw, spawn kill in fbz, or just become belligerent.
Also Idk about the laws or what not but I think the internet has its own laws set by congress or w/e.
Sorry, If I seem a bit mean or crazy.
Jbone1337
01-23-2009, 03:07 PM
i dont see y ppl complain, just have your guild join w/ you, and maybe get vent.
i do this w/ my guild all the time lol, make pvp kq actually fun for a mage XD
obson90
01-25-2009, 09:37 PM
XD happens all the time....i think its just ppl trying to take advantage of the situation and ks
A_geezy
01-26-2009, 12:39 AM
XD happens all the time....i think its just ppl trying to take advantage of the situation and ks
Take advantage of the situation?
How's the bandwaggon treatin ya obson90?
Sorry dude, you sound like a follower. There is are no current guidelines about KSing in PvP KQ, that means, as of yet, it's totally permissible given the chaotic nature of the event.
And about teaming happening all the time, (and this goes to everybody who visits this post), please read my post on page one. It's in blue and will help you understand that teaming, no matter how bad it makes you feel to be left out, (and subsequently how much of a racket you try to raise over the non-issue), it will never go away, period.