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thechaz
01-27-2009, 04:59 AM
most people in the game find it hard to chose between a tank or a dd fighter so here my solution its spr dex

so far its
+33 dex (maxed aim)
+70 spr

the rest goes where u think it should XD

skills
for the people who just use 2hed weapons

vit
+5 on cd
+5 on duration

power hit
+5 on cd

mock
+5 on cd

deva
+5 on dmg
+5 on cd
+5 duation

whirlwind
+5 on cd

for people who use 1h only

slice and dice
+5 on cd

mock
+5 on cd

deva
+5 on dmg
+5 on cd
+5 duation

whirlwind
+5 on cd
+5 on dmg

accurate strike
+5 on cd

for those who use both

vit
+5 on cd
+5 on duration

power hit
+5 on cd

slice and dice
+5 on cd

mock
+5 on cd

deva
+5 on cd
+5 duation

whirlwind
+5 on cd

this is my diverse fighter spr dex build looks nice cause its all dependant on gears for a dd u use str dex for tank end spr or both use str end

no flames XD but what u think

zues8844
01-27-2009, 02:51 PM
Throwing on a magic def scroll would allow you to put the other points in STR and therefore kill things faster >.>

Also, I have never noticed anyone who PvP's, AND WINS, who uses a 1h and shield. A bunch of 7x's who like to mess around and 1-hit lvl 20's with 1h's, yeah. But all the high level duelers mainly use axes.

A_geezy
01-27-2009, 04:54 PM
lol chaz... your proposed build = epic fail
Fighter builds have all been discussed, but the numbers only support two builds: the hybrid at later levels (def. & evasion negates the extra damage of a DD), and the pure STR:



umm bro.. the equation for the crits should look something like this:
we allow that every available CS crit accessory is in play = 19% crit + 13% (weapon w/ maxed license) = 32% crit + 9% (for 65spr) = 41% crits
so over the course of 1 minute with an axe we have (60/1.5) = 40 attacks, 40% of which will be crits for 2X damage:
16 x (375.6 x 2) = 12,019.2
+
24 X (375.6) = 9014.4
= 21,033.6 damage points

that is a serious difference when compared to a pure str build that would look something like this:

46 attacks/minute @ 300 base damage
300 + 105.6 = 405.6
46(405.6) = 18657.6

a 7.4% increase in base damage before crits are considered.

then we add the crit % using all the cash shop stuff
5% + 8% + 3% + 3% = 19% + 13% from weapon = 32%

12.8 x (405.6 x 2) = 10,383
+
27.2 x (405.6) = 11032.32
= 21415.32



idk... looks like the math is in favor of the pure Str build. Magic Defense is the only real benefit you get from Spr then, and even that is better when it comes from equips.

We could make an even simpler formula without the cash shop stuff that would simply add the accumulated damage total of the crits:

[65 spr rest str build]: 1.22D
[25 spr rest str build]: 1.18D
[pure str]: 1.13D

where D = base damage after str modifier is added

so if you start with a base damage of 300 and run it through those you'd get:

1.22(300 + (23x1.2)) = 399.672
1.18(300 + (63x1.2)) = 443.208
1.13(300 + (88x1.2)) = 458.328

So pure Spr = costly and ineffective compared to other DD builds out there.

thechaz
01-28-2009, 02:12 AM
*sigh* people so narrow minded this build allows people to be a dd or tank thats the idea and tbh spr is a huge advantage to tank. and to note ur maths doesnt take into the account of agro laws ¬¬. crits cause agro, so frequent crits with this build it causes alot of agro thats how u tank thats how pure spr fighters work the spr is not for magic def its for crit and it idea is to crit and tank or use dd weapons with the crits to hit hard more often. and IM NOT A SC USER!!!!!!!!!! (well i have some but i dont use it). and i proved my archer build from way back when (the aoe spammer) and if my fighter works on my alt account ull be eating ur words XD. then is anyone says about pvp i really dont have to mention the fail u just made

Madcharo
01-28-2009, 02:34 AM
A build has little to do with how well you tank at higher levels. This looks more like a DD build anyway due to the spr (For crits) and dex (For aim so you can miss less with axe and 2h).

What realy depends on how well you tank is your gears. I don't see why people put so much fuss in to builds when a full int Fighter, with the right gears, could still own. :|

But still, nice try but if you want a good hybrid build go str/end or str/end/spr

For the record, the majority of high leveled fighters out there tank with an axe...

A_geezy
01-28-2009, 08:38 AM
*sigh* people so narrow minded this build allows people to be a dd or tank thats the idea and tbh spr is a huge advantage to tank. and to note ur maths doesnt take into the account of agro laws ¬¬. crits cause agro, so frequent crits with this build it causes alot of agro thats how u tank thats how pure spr fighters work the spr is not for magic def its for crit and it idea is to crit and tank or use dd weapons with the crits to hit hard more often. and IM NOT A SC USER!!!!!!!!!! (well i have some but i dont use it). and i proved my archer build from way back when (the aoe spammer) and if my fighter works on my alt account ull be eating ur words XD. then is anyone says about pvp i really dont have to mention the fail u just made

A.) Damage = Aggro; Has nothing to do with crits, if you crit every time for 500dmg, but on auto attack I'm averaging 600dmg then I'm going to draw mor aggro, period. So yes, the math does add up and as machado alread said, at the higher levels most tanks use axes; it's all in the gear.

B.) The equations at the very bottom were in bold, take another look at those. They represent the equation w/out Cash Shop items for anyone who is too narrow minded to realize that the first equation only added a uniform % multiplier to the damage caused by both builds.

Dex/End/Spr hybrid or Full Str. Only two builds supported by the numbers so far, that could change later but who knows.