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xavier_swift
01-27-2009, 05:07 PM
Anybody know why we never get a heads up about what they fix/add before the close the servers for maintenance?

joecracker
01-27-2009, 05:21 PM
because for 1 to stop exploits, for 2 to fix bugs that people dont even kow about them, for 3 because they do tell us the major fixes and thats all they should tell us

iLoveless
01-27-2009, 05:27 PM
In another game the GM says that they'll post patch notes when they receive it. So it's possible that they don't know what's in the patch yet either. -shrug- But this week's maintenance is an hour (unless it was a typo) so... don't expect anything new.

Didn't just start today, just get used to it. I gave up trying to ask.

rxyangl
01-27-2009, 05:28 PM
I think he just wants to know why general info isn't posted about maintenance till after its closed, can't blame him for askin. Most games I've played give you a lil 411 before, just seems odd they wait till its started is all.

xavier_swift
01-27-2009, 06:24 PM
because for 1 to stop exploits, for 2 to fix bugs that people dont even kow about them, for 3 because they do tell us the major fixes and thats all they should tell us

For 4, the last time they told us anything was late last year. Also, how can anyone exploit something that's going to be fixed?

borednl
01-27-2009, 07:27 PM
yea, I think they should mention such things as "AOE targeting and tooltips are now enabled" too..

Poisoned77
01-27-2009, 07:28 PM
It's a good question. One unfortunately I don't think I could answer, even if I knew the answer.

fireyair
01-27-2009, 07:34 PM
It's a good question. One unfortunately I don't think I could answer, even if I knew the answer.

Now you're sounding like George W. Bush...



Peace:cool:

Bunnysnoog
01-27-2009, 07:42 PM
For 4, the last time they told us anything was late last year. Also, how can anyone exploit something that's going to be fixed?

Because as we've seen in the past, things don't always end up fixed when they say they're getting fixed. Things go wrong, sometimes problems end up worse even. And you really don't want to give people ideas when it comes to exploits.

Ian
01-27-2009, 10:09 PM
A lot of the time, it's minor server patching and data backup.

mehe20
01-27-2009, 10:10 PM
Yea, I think if they don't then the servers could crash while playing without notice. I think...

spookyiness
01-27-2009, 10:14 PM
and it matters because?
you can play with new features before they get added?
you can spend 8 hours speculating about how things work, instead of the old 3 or 4?

if they only told us what was done 2 minutes before the server came back online, it would still be before any of it is of any use, so it doesn't really matter.

personally - i'd rather they work on things, than take the time to put together pretty posts about what they plan on doing each day.

Lety23
01-27-2009, 10:15 PM
Because as we've seen in the past, things don't always end up fixed when they say they're getting fixed. Things go wrong, sometimes problems end up worse even. And you really don't want to give people ideas when it comes to exploits.

Maybe they should put a patch note that tells us what should be fixed. That way, we can watch out for it and maybe inform them that it wasn't fixed after all.


and it matters because?
you can play with new features before they get added?
you can spend 8 hours speculating about how things work, instead of the old 3 or 4?

if they only told us what was done 2 minutes before the server came back online, it would still be before any of it is of any use, so it doesn't really matter.

personally - i'd rather they work on things, than take the time to put together pretty posts about what they plan on doing each day.


Wow, attitude.
They tell us about events, and news. What's adding a little extra list going to do?
And it's not everyday, just the maintainence stuff.

AriesMehjor
01-27-2009, 10:16 PM
Next important patch isnt until next week AKA the valentines day patch, so.....be ready lol.

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:17 PM
i dont get it why are they having the maintnence every tuesday wats with that anyway

spookyiness
01-27-2009, 10:18 PM
i dont get it why are they having the maintnence every tuesday wats with that anyway

seriously? you don't get that?
wow

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:20 PM
so wait wats the valentines patch going to have anyway

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:21 PM
idk im a little out of it today lol srry :P

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:22 PM
well wat i mean to say is wats it for like to clean the servers of like any possible viruses in the servers

Lety23
01-27-2009, 10:22 PM
You don't have to triple* post ^.^
The valentines patch...? Oh, I guess it's just the stuff for the event.

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:22 PM
or any possible viruses to come

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:23 PM
ohh lol now i get it

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:24 PM
wow only 1 more hour till the games back up or less than that

xxandreaxx
01-27-2009, 10:24 PM
Yeah i hope they r fixing the problem with those spammer dudes that like whisper u with the gold or silver. or those glitches that randomly shows a person in your pt when u didn't even pt them .. but they're tryin to fix everything that they possibly can. people r so worried about maintaince they get all hyped , like seriously is this the ONLY thing u do ?

Lety23
01-27-2009, 10:27 PM
Dude...stop posting. You can just edit any previous post..
Anyways :D

Sometimes...most of the times actually...maintainences are longer than they tell us. I wonder if they can tell us 2 hours, when they actually really think it's only going to be 1 hour. This way, we'll be like Woo~ That wasn't so bad~


Yeah i hope they r fixing the problem with those spammer dudes that like whisper u with the gold or silver. or those glitches that randomly shows a person in your pt when u didn't even pt them .. but they're tryin to fix everything that they possibly can. people r so worried about maintaince they get all hyped , like seriously is this the ONLY thing u do ?

Umm for me, I've had a person just randomly there...like I wasn't even in a party and then *poof* someones there. Or when someone asked me to pt them, but I was asking someone else...then the person I asked gets with the people that asked me...I hope that made sense xD

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:28 PM
lol srry about that im a little talketive today so whos seen advant children because its a little boring lol i mean not advant children lol talking about not being able to play fiesta because advant children is the bomb
lol

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:30 PM
1 hour (drops into tony Tiger voice) Thaaaaaaaaats GRRRRRRRRRRRRReat

Errr wait you want them to actually lie to you so you feel like its been less time cause they lied about projected Time??? why not just assume its gonna be an hour longer than it is and be like woooo that wasnt so bad anyways?

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:32 PM
ya srry about the whole triple post things im a little new to the whole forum thing

mredlodge
01-27-2009, 10:34 PM
For 4, the last time they told us anything was late last year. Also, how can anyone exploit something that's going to be fixed?

Well, a wise shopper would have bought a ton of 30 day mounts if we had known in advance they were going to remove them. That would be exploiting in a sense. :)

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:35 PM
so is it them exploiting us wise shoppers by not telling us ><?

spookyiness
01-27-2009, 10:36 PM
Well, a wise shopper would have bought a ton of 30 day mounts if we had known in advance they were going to remove them. That would be exploiting in a sense. :)

a lot of people did (including me)

they announced the change, but then silky didn't change the page until 2 hours into the maint, so we had a chance to stock up

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:37 PM
Now i really feel Exploited for not getting to exploite along with all the other exploiters.... can you tell i have nothing else to do?

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:39 PM
so like 20 more mins left until the game is back up woot cant wait because im so bored :P

mredlodge
01-27-2009, 10:40 PM
so is it them exploiting us wise shoppers by not telling us ><?

Not according to OS... LOL

If given the chance to buy them, I believe they would think we were exploiting them. haha That's why they gave us no warning.

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:41 PM
Well, a wise shopper would have bought a ton of 30 day mounts if we had known in advance they were going to remove them. That would be exploiting in a sense. :)

so wait all the 30 day mounts are going to be romoved well that sucks and wat about like costumes are they going to be removed to

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:44 PM
Now I really feel exploited -.- even if i technically wasnt exploited all this exploitation flying around Ill just join the crowd so as not to be left out on either side ;D LMAO


They were exploiting us during the periojd of tim e we exploited them so if we win they lose and so do we and then everyones a winner !!!!

SweetLavender
01-27-2009, 10:47 PM
I got randomly partied with my guild master on an alt Oo Only thing was that on his screen he was partied with my main? Oo

back on topic: Yeah usually by the time they got the thread up, I'm not interested in the patch anymore and go do whatever. Last week we didn't get patch notes until I think 1.5hours after the servers went down?

irix33
01-27-2009, 10:48 PM
Yup.

Nothing new for this maintenance. No new patch, just data backup as Silky said.

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:49 PM
You guys realize the last hour long maintenece was before november right WOOOT

Lety23
01-27-2009, 10:49 PM
so wait all the 30 day mounts are going to be romoved well that sucks and wat about like costumes are they going to be removed to


The 30/7 day mounts were removed, yes. Along with the permanent costumes, ears, etc., that was also there. (Most of it)

Now I don't relaly care about the permanent costumes, in my opinion, they're a waste. But if you want a 30 day mount, just be patient. Think about it. They're just putting permanent mounts, literally forcing you to get a perm. mount even if you wanted a 30 day one. Not only that, you have to feed it.



I think they'll bring back the 30 day mounts. I mean if they don't, I'm pretty sure they know quite well they will get many complaints v.v



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And guys really stay on topic.~

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:50 PM
Complaints and MONEY too which is there main motivation I believe so As to waiting for 30 day mounts to come back I think thats pipedream no offense Lety

freakshow9
01-27-2009, 10:53 PM
so pretty much they cheated us from our mounts and costumes and they might give back the mounts but not for sure

Lety23
01-27-2009, 10:53 PM
Complaints and MONEY too which is there main motivation I believe so As to waiting for 30 day mounts to come back I think thats pipedream no offense Lety

None taken.

Well, theys gonna have to be closing a lot of complaint threads if they isn't going to bring back the 30 day mounts.

Ok guys though really, the economy is suffering. Not just Fiesta's, out there...the REALy world O.o



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Oh and if they don't have the hour long maintenance like they said,, if its longer...

We bettah be getting some apology presents ~.~

araikon69ah
01-27-2009, 10:55 PM
mmmm if your not careful Lety Im gonn eat your cloud nom nom noms cotton candy cloud
.... they still sell cotton candy at 98 cent stor brb going for cotton candy mmmmm mmmmmmmm

Asheer
01-28-2009, 07:32 AM
All mounts will return... whit small addition of word "permanent" before name of mover.
Since Rhino and Dragon movers are back whit this add i can more as sure say that rest will follow in this same pattern.
Because "Money make world go around" :rolleyes:...

adf1falken
01-28-2009, 10:36 AM
nooo what happened to our patch notes that would tell us what they are fixing/adding we didnt even get a heads up abt the dumb blood splatter thing cmon

spookyiness
01-28-2009, 12:08 PM
nooo what happened to our patch notes that would tell us what they are fixing/adding we didnt even get a heads up abt the dumb blood splatter thing cmon

did it really matter that we didn't get a heads up on that?
not like it was a super important piece of information that changed lives for the starving millions of the world - it was just a fancy graphic added for crits, which took about 8 seconds to find out about when you attacked a monster.

Hardly anyone reads the patch notes anyway, even in the threads that have the patch notes as the first post, people STILL ask what's happening and how long maintenance is and "on my god, is it maintenance tonight, cause i like never noticed it's at the EXACT same time EVERY week for the last year i've been playing".

They give you as much information as you need, and we should be happy we get any patch notes at all, cause really, they don't have to tell us anything.

Silly little changes, or attempts at bug fixes where they aren't sure how they work or affect other things aren't really all that important, what is everyone's problem with it?

But, i'm sure if they post ALL the patch notes, you'd all find something to complain about about that anyway, cause that's all people do here, complain - see,i'm comlaining right now!